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Title: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: hack4love on March 29, 2018, 11:22:38 AM
imagine  you have free electricity  and you have 5k

in this prices and market situation

what is your plan than ?

buy new gpu or not?





Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: Old_Timer on March 29, 2018, 11:30:15 AM
imagine  you have free electricity  and you have 5k

in this prices and market situation

what is your plan than ?

buy new gpu or not?





BUY as many GPU as you can. Until you run out of space.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: rowel21 on March 29, 2018, 11:38:37 AM
GPU overload hahaha  imagine we have our own power plant just like the man in Kenya imagine  we created a  big salt lamp that can    creates a volt of electric  or we have a wide solar panel or  wind panel imagine we can mine a lot of btc

just imagine


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: treanski on March 29, 2018, 11:45:49 AM
imagine  you have free electricity  and you have 5k

in this prices and market situation

what is your plan than ?

buy new gpu or not?





i would sell the electricity to miners ;D


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: Vann on March 29, 2018, 11:54:20 AM
GPU prices are still too high, but I would check eBay or locally to see if you can find a good deal. Lots of people started new rigs at the peak of when coin prices were going up thinking the profitability was going to remain the same. Now with the continued downturn, they will be thinking the same thing and many will want out. Especially those that got in over their head or with credit.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: shibob on March 29, 2018, 12:28:20 PM
Many people are selling their rigs after the FUD of ETH asic miner. so if you would like to mine with 2nd hand rigs, you should collect them with reasonable prices, even 2nd hand GPUs (I think most of them just were used in 6 months not more) could last few years more. You have free electric, it means you already get profit then nothing to be regret, you will have ROI for sure but not that fast, so if you think of long term, just wait a bit more, GPU's prices are going down then collect as much as you can. I've started selling some ETH recently, I just want to be ready to buy more GPUs at my expected prices (my electric price is ~0.075-0.08$/kwh).


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: manji on March 29, 2018, 02:24:18 PM
So, what is the purpose of this post? Just for fun? This kind of post didn't give positive influence and contribute nothing to the forum. Better to discuss something useful.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: cryptbro on March 29, 2018, 02:32:54 PM
So, what is the purpose of this post? Just for fun? This kind of post didn't give positive influence and contribute nothing to the forum. Better to discuss something useful.


Rather read a post like this over the hundreds of threads about people complaining over daily profits and screaming mining is dead  ;)

+1 on going balls deep with buying GPUs...but don't overpay! Wait for prices to go down or buy off some panic selling rookie. Next gen is also around the corner but tbh it's never as big of a jump in mining capability as people make it out to be.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: dhouse on March 29, 2018, 02:51:18 PM
if i had free electricity i'd buy all the gpus and all the asics


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: Lampaster on March 29, 2018, 03:07:41 PM
Now the profitability of mining GPU has decreased to such a level that even the availability of free electricity does not guarantee you income. I recommend you take a wait-and-see attitude now. If mining the GPU will remain relevant the price of the GPU drops because it decreases profit. If prices do not fall, they will not grow either. The situation is too uncertain to make any decisions now.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: manji on March 29, 2018, 03:08:59 PM
So, what is the purpose of this post? Just for fun? This kind of post didn't give positive influence and contribute nothing to the forum. Better to discuss something useful.
Rather read a post like this over the hundreds of threads about people complaining over daily profits and screaming mining is dead  ;)

+1 on going balls deep with buying GPUs...but don't overpay! Wait for prices to go down or buy off some panic selling rookie. Next gen is also around the corner but tbh it's never as big of a jump in mining capability as people make it out to be.

Nothing better with that kind of post. We need to face the fact.
Suggestion on this thread means nothing, it just "imagine" when I have this, and do this. Then what we expect with this kind of discussion?  ???


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: dhouse on March 29, 2018, 03:13:39 PM
So, what is the purpose of this post? Just for fun? This kind of post didn't give positive influence and contribute nothing to the forum. Better to discuss something useful.
Rather read a post like this over the hundreds of threads about people complaining over daily profits and screaming mining is dead  ;)

+1 on going balls deep with buying GPUs...but don't overpay! Wait for prices to go down or buy off some panic selling rookie. Next gen is also around the corner but tbh it's never as big of a jump in mining capability as people make it out to be.

Nothing better with that kind of post. We need to face the fact.
Suggestion on this thread means nothing, it just "imagine" when I have this, and do this. Then what we expect with this kind of discussion?  ???


A MAN CAN DREAM!!!!


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: manji on March 29, 2018, 03:25:26 PM
A MAN CAN DREAM!!!!
Go dreaming alone. And don't forget to buy all GPUs and ASIC in your dream. Dreaming is free, sound like this post title, isn't it?  :-X


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: philipma1957 on March 29, 2018, 03:33:20 PM
imagine  you have free electricity  and you have 5k

in this prices and market situation

what is your plan than ?

buy new gpu or not?





I would buy 7 bitmain coupons  and then buy 7 antminer L3+


and then solo mine here

http://ltc.tbdice.org/users.htm

I should hit a few blocks 3.5gh   vs 188000 total = 1 block  every 54000 blocks  but 2016 blocks every 3 ½ days

so 54000/2016 = 27  so a block  should come buy in  27 x 3.5 = 94.5 days

about 4 blocks in a year  a little good luck   you hit 5 or 6 .

no power cost means you are stuck just the  5k


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: cptdome1 on March 29, 2018, 03:37:44 PM
GPU prices are still too high.  Even people who arent mining enough ETH to pay for the electric are trying to ask insane prices for their used rigs.  If you could buy a 6x 1070 rig for $1500 that would be a good start, but good luck finding someone at those prices


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: dhouse on March 29, 2018, 03:43:31 PM
A MAN CAN DREAM!!!!
Go dreaming alone. And don't forget to buy all GPUs and ASIC in your dream. Dreaming is free, sound like this post title, isn't it?  :-X


 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: Giordano on March 29, 2018, 04:04:13 PM
I would buy GPUs  ;D


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: AngelSky on March 29, 2018, 04:42:14 PM
imagine  you have free electricity  and you have 5k

in this prices and market situation

what is your plan than ?

buy new gpu or not?



Everyone will goes to buy the GPU cards as much they can with the 5K USD. Since we see the price fluctuation in the market many people migrated to mining the cheap coins. So you guys can invest your fund on mining ethereum.
If you look it in the ethereum itself you will get the decent profit once we see the price bump back in the market.

I suggest to go with the Zotac P100- 102 cards. This will give hash rate around 54 MH for mining ethereum bro.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: VisualPleasure on March 29, 2018, 05:11:07 PM
i've got free electricity buy building water turbine generator,
i've got my advantage bacause my property got near a river that has plenty a water..
im building my rig now and i hope i can get my money back in a year.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: cloudhax on March 29, 2018, 05:11:46 PM
Now the profitability of mining GPU has decreased to such a level that even the availability of free electricity does not guarantee you income.

LOL, what??  if the electricity is free it doesn't matter - as long as the coins being mined are worth >$0 it is profitable.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: Coffee135 on March 29, 2018, 06:01:05 PM
Now the profitability of mining GPU has decreased to such a level that even the availability of free electricity does not guarantee you income.

LOL, what??  if the electricity is free it doesn't matter - as long as the coins being mined are worth >$0 it is profitable.
You must have been very bad at math. GPU has its life span. This is about 2 years, but there are deviations. Are you sure that with the constant decline in the prices of the coins you will have time to recoup their costs for the purchase of the GPU. Mining does not forgive mistakes. I know a lot of people who made a mistake in their calculations and now I regret that I have wasted a lot of money on the GPU.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: cloudhax on March 29, 2018, 06:43:58 PM
Now the profitability of mining GPU has decreased to such a level that even the availability of free electricity does not guarantee you income.

LOL, what??  if the electricity is free it doesn't matter - as long as the coins being mined are worth >$0 it is profitable.
You must have been very bad at math. GPU has its life span. This is about 2 years, but there are deviations. Are you sure that with the constant decline in the prices of the coins you will have time to recoup their costs for the purchase of the GPU. Mining does not forgive mistakes. I know a lot of people who made a mistake in their calculations and now I regret that I have wasted a lot of money on the GPU.


1) if your gpus only last you 2 years you are doing something wrong
2) you are assuming $0 resale value


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: swogerino on March 29, 2018, 07:46:37 PM
I would buy 2 S9 rather than going with GPU-s. The antminer is a bit better in profitability compared to the GPU-s, now in the antminer market newcomers are few while in the GPU mining sector there are a lot of noobs who are entering wanting to make that quick buck and they are adding to difficulty. With free electricity is always a good idea to go with ASIC miners compared to GPU-s.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: nsummy on March 29, 2018, 07:56:05 PM
Now the profitability of mining GPU has decreased to such a level that even the availability of free electricity does not guarantee you income.

LOL, what??  if the electricity is free it doesn't matter - as long as the coins being mined are worth >$0 it is profitable.
You must have been very bad at math. GPU has its life span. This is about 2 years, but there are deviations. Are you sure that with the constant decline in the prices of the coins you will have time to recoup their costs for the purchase of the GPU. Mining does not forgive mistakes. I know a lot of people who made a mistake in their calculations and now I regret that I have wasted a lot of money on the GPU.


1) if your gpus only last you 2 years you are doing something wrong
2) you are assuming $0 resale value

Product life can be mitigated by getting something with a better warranty but you still are competing with the fact that your equipment will sooner or later be obsolete.  It will not only be worth less on the secondary market, it will also generate less income.  Lets put it this way, any mining now that has recently invested in a GPU is not concerned about the electricity cost;  They are concerned about the money they have sunk into the card(s)


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: nsummy on March 29, 2018, 08:00:13 PM
There is nothing wrong with hypothetical posts but the problem with this one is that it has been asked over and over and over;  Almost as much as "what is the best coin to mine" and "what is the best gpu"

Unless you have some giant mining operation (well above $5k) electrical costs will not make or break you.  Of course everyone wants to minimize the cost of doing business, but I can't think of any piece of equipment that uses so much electricity that it would be very profitable, if only electricity was free!  If anyone knows of such a thing let me know, I'll buy it and run and extension cord to my neighbors backyard  ;D


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: mbdmbn on March 29, 2018, 08:05:30 PM
I'd grow a copious amount of weed, smoke a lot and trade some for Bitcoins, then I'd sit back, get high and wait for new all time highs, so that I can cash out and go live the dream  :)


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: dhouse on March 29, 2018, 09:09:04 PM
maybe i'd buy like 50 of those usb miners and make a usb mining farm  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: DevelopmentBank on March 29, 2018, 10:41:26 PM
Remember that there is really no such thing as free electricity. If your parents are paying for it and you are about to use your college fund, don't do it! Mining is dangerously reaching the point where the cost of electricity is greater than the amount of mined coins in fiat. It might already be too late to join the mining game.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: Max Likelihood on March 30, 2018, 12:00:09 AM
Well, here is what I would do. First, start watching gpu prices on ebay and stock-monitoring sites. Probably retail won't come down for a while, but right now there are 1100+ 1070s sitting on ebay "buy it now" starting at 400-420, which would have been unheard of even a couple weeks ago. They will go down further in a few more weeks, 1070tis haven't gotten low enough yet and 1080s still too high.

Now, most are so you have to assume some risk--sets are probably from miners, singles more likely to be from gamers (though they may have mined too). 1070tis, if they ever get into the 300s, weren't out until late last year so even if they were mined they're not too old. If you 1) find serviceable cards wiht your 5K on the second hand market products where prices are dropping, 2) then mine while difficulty is down d/t price slump (and if some algos discover they are getting asic'ed and successfully evade, bring dif down), 3) hold good coins till recovery, you might be able to ROI in an amount of time that's not totally insane.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: Vann on March 30, 2018, 12:05:26 AM
I just did a search on eBay for 1070 in Graphics cards and came up with 12 BIN listings between $400 and $420.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=400&_udhi=420&_nkw=1070&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: Max Likelihood on March 30, 2018, 11:38:25 PM
right, I mean they are starting at 400-420, not all listings are at that. Point is they're coming down, if OP waits he can get them lower soon.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: philipma1957 on March 31, 2018, 01:11:01 AM
This is so easy   buy the 420 coupons for bitmain

sellers are asking 70   so it is 350 off

the t9 is 755   so 755 +100 = 855 + 70 = 925 - 420 = 505  for 10.5 th

or 4545 for 94.5 th  get some psus.

and the gear would just earn money till it all dies

@ 4% diff jumps  you would be ahead 763 in 154 days
@ 5% diff jumps you would be ahead  456 in 154 days
@ 6% diff jumps you would be ahead   170 in 154 days

@ 7% diff jumps you would be ahead   492 in 184 days 2670 in 1 year

I assume coin price of 6950


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: Kariste on March 31, 2018, 01:18:21 AM
As we all know electricity is very important because it has a all around functions.
Like powering technology like our cellphones, lights computers and soldering irons which basically needed in doing mining.
So, if that could happen that electricity is free I'll do mining also and obviously can lesser the expenses and more profits to be gain.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: cloudhax on March 31, 2018, 02:36:24 AM
Remember that there is really no such thing as free electricity.

true but some of us have "free" electricity and not by stealing it from parents/work/school.  My electric utility gives me free electricity for 9 hours a night due to an excess of wind power availability at night coupled with lower demand.   They expect you to pay for it indirectly with your daytime usage, but if profitability dips too low, I'll just run my rigs only at night during the free hours.

some people also have solar/wind/hydro setups that may have already paid for themselves over the years and are now generating a steady stream of 'free' power


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: wheelz1200 on March 31, 2018, 03:24:00 AM
This is so easy   buy the 420 coupons for bitmain

sellers are asking 70   so it is 350 off

the t9 is 755   so 755 +100 = 855 + 70 = 925 - 420 = 505  for 10.5 th

or 4545 for 94.5 th  get some psus.

and the gear would just earn money till it all dies

@ 4% diff jumps  you would be ahead 763 in 154 days
@ 5% diff jumps you would be ahead  456 in 154 days
@ 6% diff jumps you would be ahead   170 in 154 days

@ 7% diff jumps you would be ahead   492 in 184 days 2670 in 1 year

I assume coin price of 6950

Agree, i would probably buy the L3+s but i would mine on a pool, get my capital investment back and sell the L3s.  At that point reasess and buy the most profitable asic at that time.  Wash rinse repeat.  Keeps you in the profit and with the latest most profitable gear out at that time.


Title: Re: free electricity what would you do?
Post by: chandrarahmadewa on March 31, 2018, 04:04:54 PM
imagine  you have free electricity  and you have 5k

in this prices and market situation

what is your plan than ?

buy new gpu or not?
my fantasy just for fun
I will not buy the GPU anymore, but I will rent electricity to the miners, invite to cooperate with the profit system. I will be campaigning on bitcointalk about free electricity. Maybe I can be a millionaire. lol