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Title: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Kialara on March 30, 2018, 01:14:53 AM
When I originally designed the Labyrinth, I planned to use lab-created rubies. I ordered 100 of them (minimum order qty) and they were not as red in color as I would have liked, so I built 20 of them and shelved them - they’ve been sitting in my safe since 2015. I originally planned to release 250 Labyrinths with rubies, so these have serials 01/250 through 20/250 and are dated 2015. There are and will only be these 20 in existance though.

Lab-created rubies are identical chemically, physically and optically to natural rubies, and this process allowed me to get the precise spherical shapes I needed. I ordered them from Meller Optics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE275I3p8LU

These can appear red in the right lighting, but the color is more pink than anything.

This auction is for serials 07, 09 and 11

(08 and 10 will not be available, as I have future plans for them. Only four more bars will be auctioned following this: 12, 13, 14, 15)

Please bid on each or multiple items individually. 09 auction ends one hour after the 07 auction. 11 ends one hour after 09 auction.

Bidding Format:
07 @ 0.15 btc

Images:
https://imgur.com/rHk9eMn
https://imgur.com/ps7odNm
https://imgur.com/YQDUhDt
https://imgur.com/OVB2PFl
https://imgur.com/NKdY9i7

My receipt to show these were acquired in 2015: https://imgur.com/5ARr2n6


Auction Terms:

Starting Bid:  0.01 BTC

Bid Incremeents:  0.01 BTC

07 Auction Ends:  Monday, April 2nd 2018, 1PM Pacific (California) [8pm forum time]
Countdown Timer: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20180402T13&p0=770&font=cursive

09 Auction Ends:  Monday, April 2nd 2018, 2PM Pacific (California) [9pm forum time]
Countdown Timer: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20180402T14&p0=770&font=cursive

11 Auction Ends:  Monday, April 2nd 2018, 3PM Pacific (California) [10pm forum time]
Countdown Timer: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20180402T15&p0=770&font=cursive

The auction end times, i.e. 1pm Pacific, 2pm Pacific and 3pm Pacific will coordinate with the official bitcointalk clocks hour/second hand, and not the countdown timers.

Sniping:  No, any bid placed within the final 5 minutes of each auction will add an additional 5 minutes ad infinitum until no new, valid bid has been placed for 5 minutes.

Excluded from Bidding:   I may exclude bidders, or require a deposit for any bidders at my sole discretion.  If you are a brand new account, please PM prior to bidding

Forum downtime:  If the forum goes offline in the final 4 hours of the auction I may extend or relist the auction at my discretion

Shipping & Insurance: Free shipping to USA, $45 international (express)

Direct payments only to this address:  3Pf29rLr3gbuCULpX2TnLhSxZxa44tKrjT

Paypal to be considered if you are a previous customer.  Payment due in full within 24 hours of auction end, or item will be offered to next-highest bidder.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: ChiBitCTy on March 30, 2018, 01:23:12 AM
7 @ .05BTC
9 @ .05BTC
11 @ .05BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 30, 2018, 03:58:17 AM
11 @ 0.06 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: phishead on March 30, 2018, 04:07:46 AM
7 & 9 @ 0.1BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: anonymousminer on March 30, 2018, 04:12:34 AM
11 @ 0.07BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 30, 2018, 04:23:48 AM
11 @ 0.08 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: selffish on March 30, 2018, 05:56:57 AM
11 @0.09


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: chronicsky on March 30, 2018, 06:00:31 AM
11 @ 0.15


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: selffish on March 30, 2018, 06:01:45 AM
7 @0.11


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 30, 2018, 06:31:22 AM
9 @ 0.11 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: krogothmanhattan on March 30, 2018, 10:35:51 AM
9 @ 0.12 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 30, 2018, 01:12:50 PM
7 @ 0.12 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: casascius4thewin on March 30, 2018, 09:23:25 PM
7 @ 0.123  ;D
Beautiful piece of an artwork!


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 30, 2018, 09:35:45 PM
7 @ 0.123  ;D
Beautiful piece of an artwork!

Did you mean 0.13?

Quote
Bid Incremeents:  0.01 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: yesbitcoinyes on March 30, 2018, 09:48:24 PM
11 @ 0.16BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: welshcollectibles on March 30, 2018, 09:59:55 PM
7 @ 0.13BTC
9 @ 0.13BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 30, 2018, 10:07:25 PM
7 @ 0.14 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: lebnor on April 01, 2018, 05:43:45 PM
7 @ 0.15 BTC
9 @ 0.15 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Zepher on April 01, 2018, 06:34:17 PM
#7 @0.16 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 01, 2018, 07:01:51 PM
#7 @ 0.17 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: lebnor on April 01, 2018, 07:05:50 PM
7 @ 0.18


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 01, 2018, 07:11:54 PM
9 @ 0.16 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: greenplastic on April 01, 2018, 09:01:02 PM
9- 0.17BTC
11- 0.17BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 01, 2018, 10:14:11 PM
9 @ 0.18 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: greenplastic on April 01, 2018, 11:13:16 PM
9- 0.19BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 01, 2018, 11:53:04 PM
11 @ 0.18 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: phishead on April 02, 2018, 03:36:22 AM
7 @ .19BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Ramelius on April 02, 2018, 01:21:19 PM
07 @ 0.25
09 @ 0.22
11 @ 0.21


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: greenplastic on April 02, 2018, 03:03:06 PM
09 @ 0.23BTC
11 @ 0.23BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: chronicsky on April 02, 2018, 03:52:59 PM
#11 @ 0.25


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 04:16:29 PM
09 @ 0.24 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: greenplastic on April 02, 2018, 06:00:06 PM
07 @ 0.26BTC
09 @ 0.25BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: lebnor on April 02, 2018, 07:53:52 PM
7 @ 0.27BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Ramelius on April 02, 2018, 07:54:31 PM
07 @ 0.28


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: lebnor on April 02, 2018, 07:55:32 PM
7 @ 0.3BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Ramelius on April 02, 2018, 07:57:12 PM
07 @ .31


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 07:57:49 PM
07 @ 0.32 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 07:58:02 PM
09 @ 0.26BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Ramelius on April 02, 2018, 07:58:35 PM
07 @ .33


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: lebnor on April 02, 2018, 07:59:18 PM
7 @ 0.35BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: teeGUMES on April 02, 2018, 07:59:53 PM
7 @ 0.36


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 08:00:10 PM
07 @ 0.37


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Ramelius on April 02, 2018, 08:00:29 PM
07 @ .40


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 08:03:05 PM
07 @ 0.41 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Ramelius on April 02, 2018, 08:04:13 PM
07 @ .42


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 08:05:05 PM
07 @ 0.43 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Ramelius on April 02, 2018, 08:06:09 PM
07 @ .45


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 08:07:53 PM
07 @ 0.46


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: lebnor on April 02, 2018, 08:11:34 PM
7 @0.47BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 08:12:26 PM
7 @ 0.48 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: lebnor on April 02, 2018, 08:16:29 PM
7 @ 0.49BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: greenplastic on April 02, 2018, 08:16:57 PM
09 @ 0.28BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 08:18:10 PM
7 @ 0.50 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: lebnor on April 02, 2018, 08:22:04 PM
7 @ 0.51BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 08:24:52 PM
09 @ 0.29 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Ramelius on April 02, 2018, 08:29:23 PM
09 @ .30
11 @ .28


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 08:54:19 PM
09 0.31


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Ramelius on April 02, 2018, 08:57:07 PM
09 @ .33


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Fattcatt on April 02, 2018, 08:58:59 PM
11 @ 0.29BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: greenplastic on April 02, 2018, 08:59:20 PM
9- 0.36BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: chronicsky on April 02, 2018, 08:59:56 PM
9 @ 0.38
11 @ 0.38


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 09:00:59 PM
9 @ 0.40 BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: greenplastic on April 02, 2018, 09:01:46 PM
9 @ 0.42BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 09:05:37 PM
9 @ 0.43BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 09:06:04 PM
9 @ 0.44


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 09:08:46 PM
9 @ 0.45BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 09:10:50 PM
9 @ 0.46


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: greenplastic on April 02, 2018, 09:11:00 PM
9- 0.5BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 09:12:17 PM
9 @ 0.51


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 09:13:52 PM
9 @ 0.52


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: greenplastic on April 02, 2018, 09:14:43 PM
11 @ 0.4BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 09:16:41 PM
9 @ 0.53


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: chronicsky on April 02, 2018, 09:30:32 PM
11 @ 0.45


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 09:54:37 PM
11 @ 0.46


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: chronicsky on April 02, 2018, 09:54:57 PM
11 @ 0.47


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: greenplastic on April 02, 2018, 09:57:24 PM
11 @ 0.48BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 10:04:07 PM
11 @ 0.49BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: greenplastic on April 02, 2018, 10:11:32 PM
11 @ 0.5BTC


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: chronicsky on April 02, 2018, 10:13:43 PM
11 @ 0.48BTC


I guess you won here, since you bid at 09:57:24 PM and AdvocateOne next bid at 10:04:07 PM

more than 5 minutes ?


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 10:15:56 PM
I understand the auction rules to mean that increments of 5 minutes are *on* the five minutes.  I believe that I won this auction.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: chronicsky on April 02, 2018, 10:17:58 PM
I understand the auction rules to mean that increments of 5 minutes are *on* the five minutes.  I believe that I won this auction.

that would mean auction is still going on and amass to a lot of time or maybe i didn't understood what you meant.

Let Kialara Decide :)

Good luck


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 10:21:01 PM
I believe that the auction ended at 3:10pm Pacific time.

My last bid was 11 @ 0.49BTC at 3:04:07pm

The next bid came in too late @ 3:11:32pm, 1 minutes and 32 seconds past the additional 5 minute increment.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: greenplastic on April 02, 2018, 10:23:30 PM
unsure..


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 10:30:18 PM
OP states:

Quote
Sniping: No, any bid placed within the final 5 minutes of each auction will add an additional 5 minutes ad infinitum until no new, valid bid has been placed for 5 minutes.

I assume that means 5 minutes exactly from time of last bid but @Kialara would have to weigh in here and based on his decision congrats to the winner of number 11!


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: chronicsky on April 02, 2018, 10:31:04 PM
I believe that the auction ended at 3:10pm Pacific time.

My last bid was 11 @ 0.49BTC at 3:04:07pm

The next bid came in too late @ 3:11:32pm, 1 minutes and 32 seconds past the additional 5 minute increment.

why don't you see the same when difference in 09:57:24 PM(gp's id) and 10:04:07 PM(your bid) ??? [Forum Time]




Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 10:33:45 PM
Since it says "additional 5 minutes" I think it means in addition to the original ending time of the auction.  Otherwise, it wouldn't be "additional."  But I can also entertain your meaning as well, just can't embrace it.  :)


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: chronicsky on April 02, 2018, 10:36:23 PM
Since it says "additional 5 minutes" I think it means in addition to the original ending time of the auction.  Otherwise, it wouldn't be "in addition to."  But I can also entertain your meaning as well, just can't embrace it.  :)

oh now i understand you  :D :D

that gets me thinking too but as it has been always followed here, the last 5 minute bid extends the time from that bid time to 5 minute, till that continues...

and yeah i can understand why its hard when odds are in your favor :)

Good luck to whoever won , nice bidding war 


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 10:36:52 PM
why don't you see the same when difference in 09:57:24 PM(gp's id) and 10:04:07 PM(your bid) ??? [Forum Time]


Because my bid was within the next additional 5 minutes increment.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 10:47:03 PM
I am looking at forum time on my screen and sure looks like greenplastic bid 11 @ 0.48 then AdvocateOne next bid 11 @ 0.49 over 6 minutes later. Whomever @Kialara says won well bought gentlemen.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 10:56:47 PM
I am looking at forum time on my screen and sure looks like greenplastic bid 11 @ 0.48 then AdvocateOne next bid 11 @ 0.49 over 6 minutes later. Whomever @Kialara says won well bought gentlemen.

I don't dispute your analysis on the time the bids were placed--that isn't at issue.  What is at issue is the interpretation of "additional" five minutes.  I think additional means in addition to.  Again, I can entertain the other interpretation, but I sure as heck won't embrace it.  :)  I love Kialaras too much.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: teeGUMES on April 02, 2018, 10:58:13 PM
I always interpret it as if there is a bid just before end time it extends the auction by 5minutes from the END time(in this case) but only for the first bid after, then it becomes a running 5minutes from the latest bid.

edit- after re reading kialara's sniping rule it does read in a way that the auction does not have to end before the running 5 minutes begins, in this case I would say gp wins


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 11:09:14 PM
I always interpret it as if there is a bid just before end time it extends the auction by 5minutes from the END time(in this case) but only for the first bid after, then it becomes a running 5minutes from the latest bid.
...

I'm feeling a little ganged up on.   ???  The language "will add an additional 5 minutes ad infinitum" suggests that multiple 5 minute increments may be added.  So I don't think it means that just one is added.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 02, 2018, 11:17:00 PM
The language on how the auction extends is a little vague there is a good case to be made AdvocateOne actually won. @Kialara decides. With only nine Ruby editions being auctioned this is the most rare Kialara AFAIK I went way over budget because of that.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: teeGUMES on April 02, 2018, 11:23:29 PM
I always interpret it as if there is a bid just before end time it extends the auction by 5minutes from the END time(in this case) but only for the first bid after, then it becomes a running 5minutes from the latest bid.
...

I'm feeling a little ganged up on.   ???  The language "will add an additional 5 minutes ad infinitum" suggests that multiple 5 minute increments may be added.  So I don't think it means that just one is added.

lol you are not being ganged up on. If the sniping rule said that any bid within the last 5 minutes adds an additional 5 minutes to the END of the auction then you would have won. but this particular one reads as though the 5 minutes is added to any bid received in the last 5 minutes of the auction(in this case I believe GP wins). Wording in sniping rules has to be very carefully read and a lot of times it does lead to these kinds of arguments. This is why these questions and clarifications should be asked about before the auction has ended.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 11:30:22 PM
If the sniping rule said that any bid within the last 5 minutes adds an additional 5 minutes to the END of the auction then you would have won.

I believe that is the best interpretation (albeit my understanding is biased).  If additional means in addition to, then it can only mean in addition to the END of the auction.  Otherwise, it would have said that a *new* 5 minutes would start running from the time of the last bid.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Hellot on April 02, 2018, 11:48:54 PM
If more than 5 minutes pass during the no sniping phase the last bid is the winner.  More than 5 minutes passed between bids.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 11:52:07 PM
If more than 5 minutes pass during the no sniping phase the last bid is the winner.  More than 5 minutes passed between bids.

But that's not how the rule was worded.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Hellot on April 02, 2018, 11:55:26 PM
If more than 5 minutes pass during the no sniping phase the last bid is the winner.  More than 5 minutes passed between bids.

But that's not how the rule was worded.

I'm actually saying you won.  You bid within the sniping period and then the next bid was more than 5 minutes which was too slow.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 02, 2018, 11:58:34 PM
If more than 5 minutes pass during the no sniping phase the last bid is the winner.  More than 5 minutes passed between bids.

But that's not how the rule was worded.

I'm actually saying you won.  You bid within the sniping period and then the next bid was more than 5 minutes which was too slow.

Oh, in that case, then I agree with you.   :-X :)


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Hellot on April 03, 2018, 12:05:40 AM
If more than 5 minutes pass during the no sniping phase the last bid is the winner.  More than 5 minutes passed between bids.

But that's not how the rule was worded.

I'm actually saying you won.  You bid within the sniping period and then the next bid was more than 5 minutes which was too slow.

Oh, in that case, then I agree with you.   :-X :)

The whole point of the no sniping rule is so it doesn't come down to luck and who can get the last bid at the last second before it expires.  Your bid was within the 5 minute no sniping period that is set up to allow the auction to play out and your bid extended it 5 more minutes.  GP didn't respond to your bid fast enough so the 5 minutes expired and the auction ended. 
 
I've participated in a few auctions around here. ;)


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Hellot on April 03, 2018, 12:10:15 AM
Alright, I guess I didn't read the OP and this one sounds a little different.  But you still won.

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Sniping:  No, any bid placed within the final 5 minutes of each auction will add an additional 5 minutes ad infinitum until no new, valid bid has been placed for 5 minutes.
 
So it looks like GP's bid within the last 5 minutes extended it 5 minutes and you bid within that 5 minute period.  GP still took longer.  Either way you interpret it AdvocateOne won.
  



Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Kialara on April 03, 2018, 05:17:57 AM
GP bid 0.48 at 9:57:24 forum time.

My understanidng as to how auctions work here, is that bc GP’s bid was placed within the last 5 minutes, that the auction would end 5 minutes from this point - to 10:02:24 and then be over.

So looking at the bids, had nobody said anything, I would have understood it as GP having been the high bidder @ 0.48

In future auctions I will make this more clear. I pulled the rules from another auction and then added the ad infinitum part and other parts to try to make it more clear - next time I will add an example (i.e.) as well.

GP and AdvocateOne I am sending you each a PM now to sort this so hopefully everyone will be happy.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Hellot on April 03, 2018, 05:55:21 AM
GP bid 0.48 at 9:57:24 forum time.

My understanidng as to how auctions work here, is that bc GP’s bid was placed within the last 5 minutes, that the auction would end 5 minutes from this point - to 10:02:24 and then be over.

So looking at the bids, had nobody said anything, I would have understood it as GP having been the high bidder @ 0.48

In future auctions I will make this more clear. I pulled the rules from another auction and then added the ad infinitum part and other parts to try to make it more clear - next time I will add an example (i.e.) as well.

GP and AdvocateOne I am sending you each a PM now to sort this so hopefully everyone will be happy.


You designated a time the auction ends but now it ends at GP's bid.  That is confusing.  Your wording is ambiguous enough to interpret it how you want but I recommend in the future you stick to the end time that you designate and time added is added after the time you designate as the end.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 03, 2018, 06:38:35 AM
Just wanted to let you all know that Kialara resolved this to my satisfaction.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: Kialara on April 03, 2018, 07:45:54 AM
Hellot, I agree with the ambiguity. And for the record, my last statement was simply how I interpreted the winner based on my understanding of how these auctions work. I was not declaring GP the winner. I offered AdvocateOne a bar I planned to hold onto for less than he bid, and am offering GP a discount on the 11 as well which I imagine he'll be happy with when he receives the PM.

In future auctions I will try to be more clear so there is no misunderstanding.

Hopefully this can serve as a lesson to others as well.



Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: greenplastic on April 03, 2018, 02:20:07 PM
Well....Thank you to Kialara  & congrats to AdvocateOne as well.   ;)

I was unsure myself, but I do appreciate Kialara coming through with an amicable solution for both.

Super excited here!  ;D  (Payment is on the way..)







Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: chronicsky on April 03, 2018, 04:02:34 PM
that's really great solution you got Kialara

congrats to both the winners :D :)



Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: AdvocateOne on April 03, 2018, 04:39:58 PM
Yes, congrats to you greenplastic as well.  Glad that there is a robust Kialara collectors community here.  Cheers.


Title: Re: [Auction] 2015 unreleased Kialara Labyrinth (Ruby edition) 07/20, 09/20, 11/20
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 07, 2018, 05:51:28 PM
Here is 09/20. Took her out for a photo before she goes into secure storage:

https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ruby9.png