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Hi, i'm a qualified psychiatrist (MD) and psychotherapist.
I'm new to the btc world, and i'm trying to get some free bitcent to get started. I will offer what I have to offer (competence about pharmacotherapy of all kinds and psychotherapy, expecially regarding personality disorders and ASD, of course i'm speaking about a brief consulence not a real psychotherapy) for a symbolical amount of btc.
Hope someone could be interested.

private skype sessions for btc?

This could be the deal.
But my english is not perfect, it would probably be easier to write rather than to speak.
As i said, what i offer is a brief consulence, not by any meaning to be confounded with a real therapy or a medical visit.
If you or anybody interested interested pm me (or write on this thread if you have any question that may interest others)

Still nobody  interested?

This would  be a kind of experiement for me, so i offer my consulence for "free": you can pay after the session, wathever amount you think would be fair.  I think i will have time monday afternoom (at UTC+1),  i will check this thread  and try to satisfy every request. Of course discrection is guaranteed, if you want send me a Pm.

I think skype sessions would be good, but the sound is not optimal and as i said english is not my first language, so maybe if we can't properly understand  we could just see each other in the face and chat. Or u can hide your face, as you prefer.

Existing online psychoterapy services seems to me a little bit "crappy" and only cognitive-oriented, I'm just a friendly doctor giving some advices on how to behave in a difficoult situations. And there are many....

Read my PM Please.

yeah i understand  what is your language,

you can be like a life coach in a way, i wish you good luck)

I think before anyone gets into this, it might be an idea for you to post your qualifications in a manner that could be verified?  Additionally, do you not think offering pharmacological advice, based upon a "brief [consultation]", by your own admission, is entirely wrong? No psychiatrist I know would touch a diagnosis after a singular lengthy consultation, let alone advise on drugs.

Perhaps an explanation of these conditions and/or their treatments is all that should be on offer here.

I do apologise OP but I think you will understand my points if a true man of medicine.

I really undertand all of your points.

As i said, i offer a "consulence": in the case i think a therapy is needed i can i.e. write a letter to your doctor and state what you said to me and what i think would be a suitable therapy  for the rough and approssimative diagnosis i made, but it would be a very special case. More than that, i can (maybe) help you to better understand why you are experiecing some feelings, or why you got prescribed a medication, or to better understand what's happening to a relative/friend with mental health issues, or i can tell if a collateral effect is probaly due to  drug or not...

Also many people are taking drugs without a specialist supervision, or on the contrary they're not taking prescribed drugs without telling anyone, or are not seeking for any help because the lack of hope...

I will try to do the best that i can, but i really don't know what i can do. I also doubt about the possibility of properly conducting a psychotherapy online, surely won't do that. As i said, this will be an experiment for me.

There's an old latin phrase about medical deontology, it says "primum non nocere" (first, do no harm). I will certainly keep that in mind, and i fully understand your concerns. About my credentials, i don't even know if what i'm going to do is legal (like sell anything for btc, how do you declare the earnings?), so i will likely mantain the anonimate for now.

I won't doubt that all the psychiatrists you know won't do this, but i think not for ethical reasons, more legal concerns/not enough revenue and also in btc/no interest in sperimentation . That's the reason why i think that i would be a preciouse resource for some people.

I got some interest, if anybody else interested i'm still free for monday in the early afternoom.

But after they have paid you, what advice are you really going to offer them? Information they can find on the net and the bottom line of discussing it with their doctor. And you are openly invited PDs to the party. This can only end well.

I'm allowing people to pay after, whatever sum they think is fair and they can afford :)
And not every person out there have so much confidence with their generic doctor (if they have one), or completely trust him. And internet, as you know, is easly misleading.
PDs are welcome to the party  ;D

Yes it is indeed, which is why I think offering medical advice isn't a good idea. You still haven't divulged any sort of qualification and we both know people who know nothing won't look into this, hence my post.
If you do have qualification, we also both know PD is asking for a whole can of worms on a forum such as this.

Edit: I should say, I say this as someone working mental health for the last 7+ years.

2nd Edit: might I enquire as to your background?  {not just say-so]

Again, i understand your concerns: i'm pointing out of nothing on a forum full of scammers, stating that i'm a medic and i'll offer my consulence for money...not a very good or professional start. BUT, in a less paranoid stance, i'm just giving my time for a donation. I'm just curious. If i see people hoarding for a consulence i'll organize it in a more official way, otherwise i won't hurt anyone.

You spoke about a party, and if you do have qualification we both know that a party without any PD would be damned boring :)

About my qualifications, you got a PM.

You got a reply.

Like I said erre, it's not me that needs to know your qualifications....and a PM means nothing.

Now you just sound PD yourself.

Nothing i will ever never post on this forum would mean nothing. I just explained why for now i'm not giving my identity on a public forum and state that i will give "official" certification when (and if) i'll set an "official" service, as it would be not easy and requires a bit of investment.
I just thought that you, as an experienced psy-worker, could easly spot that the brief curriculum i sent you sounds convincing.
Is still not clear to me if you have some ethical concerns about what i'm doing or if you think i'm a scammer.


Maybe i just have my personality style (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_style) . Categorize someone as "having" or "not having" a personality disorder is really odd, you don't think so?
I'm probably more "B cluster" style, you're more like a "C cluster"...but it dosen't mean we cannot successfully cooperate: you made me reflect about my impusivity and low harm avoidance, and i hope i stimulate your novelty-seeking about an interesting thing like the chance of delivering online help in a simple and immediate way.

I actually feel it's a futile label but that's my personal opinion and nothing to do with what we are talking about and you know it. If you feel like throwing around wiki pages feel free, I don't think it makes you

Kind of both if I am honest. But unsure of intent.

What we get down to, is you are not offering anything off the back of being medical...only free advice. Otherwise it is unethical. and this advice can all be found out for free. I don't want a lot of vulnerable [and perhaps unwell] people feeling like they had been had.

Edit: I say this because I get asked about things a lot and although there is a duty of care to not ignore something, there is also the duty of care to get that person the correct care. This is not easily advised after a brief chat with no full background and the pharmacotherapy you mentioned really worries me.

I have just popped into this thread.
Now what does a PD mean ?

Personality Disorders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_disorder).
This week i will be a little busy, but i think the next week i will have some spare time again. Everybody feel fre to PM me if they need anything. I got a little interest and hopefully helped a pair of person (although, understandably, no one leaved a feedback till now). If i'll se there's demand (i.e. at least 3/4 consulences every week) i will really try to organize the service in a more "official" form.

i must say it is very good, i tryed and it was very nice, i recommend you guys to try it too!

If anybody else interested, i will dedicate again some time to this on thursday afternoom (UTC+1). PM me or write here if you want.
Tymer, thanks for the feedback :)

One should decide for himself what he wants, I once had a sort of bump under my ear, googleing it I came to the conclusion I had cancer, which obviously is not correct (confirmed by a real doctor), the internet is THE worst place to search on for medical advice!

OP, I don't want say you're not a real doctor, but here we can't prove anything..

Was it a lymph node? ;D

As i said, i surely can't prove anything on this forum. That's why i'm "selling" (better say: giving free for donations) only advices. In most cases, my work would be persuade you that you need to go be checked by a doctor. It may sound an easy job, but it's not everytime such easy when it comes to psychiatry.
And, if you're asking yourself if there's people not actually seeing a psy - because of the fear or the lack of hope or whatever -, but still "some-like-unconsiously" willing to be persuaded to do so... i think there's plenty of them.

Ok, experiment is over. Seems that interest about my service is not so high, so no reasons to schedule some time to that or to try to "officialize" it.
If anybody will ever read this thread in the future, fell free to PM me if you need any help.

i have many friends to suggest you!
well, bitcoin is for psychotherapy too...!!!

I got 3 more people interested since this thread is dead.
So i'll bump it

Personally I think this is a great concept... if it works in tandem with an actual doctor you can visit and have a face to face. So if you have a practice, a place you work out that your patients can visit and can contact you using your web page and ask advice etc that would work excellent.

Having said that you have to understand that on the net anybody can claim anything like saying I"m a university professor at oxford/Cambridge/Harvard university, I speak 12 languages fluently, I have 5 hot rods, etc .... but you get the picture. Even matters of the hart, like people searching for a partner, have been scammed silly. But you get the picture on the net ANYONE can claim ANYTHING and give FAKE credentials. ANd yes a healthy dose of paranoia is good for you! Since scammers are getting more sophisticated in their scamming methods.

Are you a scammer in my opinion? Maybe so, maybe not. I do not like to respond in yes /no or 0 and 1  :) Is there a possibility that this can be a scam? The probability goes up since you will try to diagnose someone you never seen, heard or met in person so how do you know that what they are saying is even real? what about a patient that says that he/she is seeing ghosts and that are constantly attacking him/her(he/she has the photos to prove it) what do you recommend? A couple of sleeping pills and a pat on the back saying "it will be alright"? Or just say "hey go and call your local paranormal gi joe's and gi janes to come and deal with your problems?
Furthermore the "real" doctors do not take advice or "help" from other doctors kindly. They want to make up their own mind. If a regular doctor says I will refer you to this doctor because  this or that and I will make an appointment for you ok but from what I've read what you do is this: communicate with potential patient by mail ( besides from obvious problems here How are you going to make a correct diagnose when you do not see the patient? People can claim this and that but how do you know it is real?  if you have had any medical training you would know that a" hands on approach" in person is the best way in analyzing the problem and then giving the people the RIGHT treatment.

Sorry about trashing and bashing nearly all your claims but you have to reverse the roles for a second. If I claim that I'm a doctor and you are my patient and we ONLY communicate through mail.. would you go for that? NO  you wouldn't because you would choose, just like everyone else, a "real" doctor that has an established practice. Just throwing in some info about my doctor: he has a practice that he shares with 9 other doctors ( some are specialized in certain areas of medicine). He is also forward thinking and has a "digital waiting room" where you can log in and make an appointment. Just saying that if you are indeed a "real doctor" with a "real" medical degree you should do something like that.

Conclusion: personally I think what you're proposing is not a clever idea. If someone with an IT background can do this but a doctor no. you have to have interaction with your patients.
These are my contribution to  this discussion  ;D

You might want to make the official disclaimer a bit more visible :)

Although you mention in your original post that "it's a brief consultation", people might still think your advice is all they'll need :)

And, well, honestly, any psychological or physical "treatment" over the internet is a bad idea, in my opinion :)

how could you guarantee confidentiality?

Also i think a good idea for you is to  be a lifecoach or motivator.

That will get you more sign ups then just giving out psychology sessions which is also a great innovative idea.

thx

I just causally come in this thread after 4 years, will bump this just for bragging a bit, because this "futile label" (personality faucets/stiles and so on) is now considered by DSM-5 the gold standard when assessing personality, and is becoming everyday more clear that a personality assessment have to be dimensional, because categoric personality disorder diagnosis are futile labels.

Not selling anything now, just to clear after 4y who had the best background about pd's...

What a great topic! Still on? I was wondering if you made any bitcents by offering medical knowlegde?
Are you still practicing medicine or did you get rich with crypto? Or both, lol

I made 3 consultations, only one of them paid 0.02 btc (less than 20 dollars at the time) :)

Despite being relative early in bitcoin my buying price was a little lower than 1k, i didn't buy much and i have been trought a lot of shitstorms during these years, so i'm not a bitcoin rich at all. But that was (and still is) a funny ride.

Now I work full-time for the public health services of my country, I  would probably still provide free medical care if I got rich in bitcoins, but I dream about not having a time card. Missed it by a few.

You stated that you are new in this BTC world byt your rank is hero member, how comes that you just new with btc and started this account, did you buy this account or what? I am just confused sir.
Also is anybody here can vouch OP fpr his service. This can make more attractive to his future patient.
Thank you

This is a thread from 2013, I was just remembering my first steps in bitcoin...

If something dramatic happens with the market your services might be useful here. Payed in BTC (Or BCH).