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Then that would mean Bitcoin's market dominance is only 4%! Hahaha!

Now we know why they are always so angry at Bitcoin while spreading all of Roger Ver's propaganda. They have no recourse but to accept the truth and sell all their Bitcoin Cash coins back to Bitcoin.

Watch and listen to Ethereum's founder in this video, https://twitter.com/taidi_ji/status/981101226480762880

I have new found respect for Vitalik Buterin for calling out Craig Wright's fraudulent claims of being Satoshi. Are the people in the Bitcoin Cash community really united in believing that he's Satoshi?

franky1, Jonaldfyookball. Can you answer this please?

https://steemitimages.com/DQmXgZNabMgrPh5VzyrwJwncaimWAoUNq4Xaf8sywNL2eJA/VB.jpg

So you're a Bitcoin guy, why are you trolling the Bitcoin Cash folks? What's your game here or are you just a dick?


I've never seen any formal support from Roger or other Bitcoin Cash supporters of Craig Wright - maybe I've been living under a rock - is this really a thing?

By the way, Craig Wright is the Donald Trump of Bitcoin...he's a all talk, and no substance.

But who was really being a dick by proclaiming that "Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin"? Am I being a dick? I only said that "if Bitcoin Cash was the real Bitcoin then its market dominance would only be 4%".

If he gets invited on stage in conferences then there might be some part of the community that believe that he really is Satoshi. Roger Ver does and so does Gavin Andresen.

I'm subscribed on /r/btc not because I agree with them, but because I want both sides of the argument. I really don't see people there siding with Craig Wright to be honest.

Well, technically and code-wise, bitcoin cash is actually closer to bitcoin's original code. Not saying that it's overall better, though.

Do Roger Ver and Gavin Andresen actually believe that he is the real Satoshi? Do you have sources for this? Legit question; not trying to insult.

No. For "BCash" to be Bitcoin, it would have meant that we would have had consensus and the block size would have had increased.
I don't want to discuss about that if it would have been a good or bad decision, it doesn't matter at all in this now.
But the consensus was to keep the current block size and adopt SegWit. The consensus is Bitcoin. Period.

They chose to fork. So we have yet another altcoin which doesn't bring anything new (sorry, but why would anybody chose BCash over Litecoin for example?).
So the 4% is much more than they deserve.


TL;DR; Bitcoin dominance would have not changed, since the only way BCash would be Bitcoin would have meant consensus and no fork. The current 4% is because BCash is an altcoin with not much use.

I don't think anyone believes that his satoshi, but there are people who believe in bitcoin cash and that bitcoin cash is better than bitcoin.

But we all know bitcoin cash wouldn't reach this far if it was released with a different name.

if they could gain the support they would have been "bitcoin" and since they failed at it, their page of the history is closed for a long time now.

it would still be as meaningless as bitcoin "dominance" being (i don't even know how much it is right now)% since people are mistakenly calling "market cap" as dominance.

they all want to make more money because of the pump of this altcoin like all the rest of them...

I've actually seen quite a few articles and documents that came up claiming that bitcoin cash was the new bitcoin. I'm not sure if people will actually do research into this before they jump into putting their money into bitcoin cash, if they put any money into it at all. A lot of members here and those who support bitcoin see bitcoin cash as just a lowly branch off of bitcoin that seems more like a scam than anything. In my eyes as well, I doubt bitcoin cash will ever surpass bitcoin. Bitcoin has the name and the "brand" in a sense, and there's nothing that bitcoin cash can do to take that away.

I'm also not sure if bitcoin cash is real bitcoin or original bitcoin.

bitcoin cash is a fraction of bitcoin, then it is unlikely to be a real bitcoin.

yes, the value of bitcoin cash is very high, but I see bitcoin cash does not have a good plan, and also the selling power in the market is still weak.

If Bitcoin Cash was the real Bitcoin then it would have been the pioneer crypto. not an altcoin. BTC remains the real deal despite the fact that the market has largely fallen hence its value

you are getting two things wrong. there is no real, original, blah blah... bitcoin. there is only "bitcoin". and bitcoin is what the overwhelming majority decides is bitcoin. if having no SegWit and having 8 MB blocks could gain this majority it would have been bitcoin and since it couldn't do that, it is an altcoin.

secondly price doesn't matter in this argument. of course it is obvious that bitcoin will always have a higher price than all of its forked altcoins but that is not set in stone. for example there are altcoins (42 coin for example) that are worth a lot more than bitcoin but that doesn't make them any good.

Absolutely true,  btc is probably the real deal of us. 
If bitCash is real btc then why is that the markets list of coin is still btc.  I dont think so.

what do you mean the real bitcoin?. bitcoin is bitcoin and bitcoin cash is bitcoin cash.. so the real bitcoin is bitcoin

Not only that but developers and aspiring personalities will just keep on creating a fork and will try to push BCH out of the league.

There were claims came from Roger Ver that they called bitcoin cash as bitcoin and bitcoin as bitcoin core. And as OP said if bitcoin cash is the real bitcoin then the market's gain/influence is only 4%.

You misunderstood it mate.

Bitcoin cash has suffered price collapse due to Bitcoin-related causes, which saw the peak price twice. If Bitcoin cash is not a coin independent of Bitcoin. That's why Bitcoin Cash is not promising.

i used to think so, but nahhh

Guys please be polite to each others, it's number one rule for every community and also it only shows your bad sides more clearly.
And now, there was bitcoin, then bitcoin cash. So real bitcoin is just bitcoin and I have no idea how this man calls bitcoin cash a real bitcoin while it's fork of original coin which is named bitcoin.

To make everything clear, here is quote of roger's shittweet:

Vitalik better pay attention to ETH that is underperforming even BCH. He is a moron

firstly im not in any band camp... just because i detest blockstream and the crap they heve done. does not throw me into any other coins camp

secondly craig wright is a scammer
i have made many many posts highlighting that craig wright cant prov crap, doesnt own crap, is in alot of legal trouble and has alot of explaining to do to many investors he defrauded with his trusts and tax grants

but hey.. i have read your posts over the last year and you seems to have blind faith that core are the masters..
i think that maybe if you take a few steps back and you will see that instead of trying to push people into being conspiracy nuts and altcoin lovers. you will see that some of us are trying to defend the real ethos of bitcoin. which has been eroded away slowly over the years with all the distractions of things like craig wright and all the altcoin creations by saying they are attackers. purely to slowly hand more power to core to control and direct a roadmap

but hey. you keep on reading reddit and keep on spreading the buzzwords of the month. just realise that all your doing is pushing people away that oppose one team.. meaning pulling only one team into the lead.. (definition of centralisation)

It will never be the bitcoin cash will be the real bitcoin because we all know that bitcoin cash was came from bitcoin that's why the price of bitcoin fluctuated because of separating from the root which is bitcoin. Roger Ver's propaganda will just be vanish and return back the bitcoin cash to bitcoin.

The real bitcoin knows the relate to cash.Bitcoin cash has only been existent in the cryptocurrency space for about few months, yet it’s quickly gaining ground as the cryptocurrency of choice despite adversaries.With over percent blocks mined on its network not to mention a successful hard fork that took place recently to change the mining difficulty level so as to keep mining profitable and consistent, there is no doubt that the BCH coin developers are on to something. Currently, Bitcoin Cash mining is more profitable than mining BTC by this percent.bitcoin cash payment Its range of products varies from healthy products and accessories and boasts of a potential that will see Bitcoin Cash gain more mainstream popularity in bch.

he doesn't believe in the future of his own project, he has said it publicly on his twitter multiple times. he doesn't even tell people to invest in it, he tells people "to invest in traditional assets because crypto has no future".
and that is what happens when a dev becomes millionaire overnight by premining his shitcoin.

This whole "Bitcoin is not the real Bitcoin, because they changed the code" mentality is stupid. Do you think Satoshi would have kept with his original code, if the Lightning Network was developed and it could take his technology mainstream? His idea of Bitcoin was to take it mainstream as a alternative to the cash payment system.

We all know Block size upgrades, cannot scale globally to serve as a alternative P2P cash payment system, so why are we still having a debate about this?

Roger Ver wants to debate this, because he wants people to side with him and to strengthen his coin. He is heavily invested in BCash and he wants to push the price, so that he can make more profits.  

That is all I need to hear. But what's your comment on Gavin Andresen about believing that Craig Wright is the real Satoshi? Scammed or is there something deeper behind it?


I was open minded about everything during the scaling debate, I listened to everyone, then only to realize that it was not about the "debate" at all, but politics, control and covert AsicBoost.


But no one does it better than Roger Ver.

https://twitter.com/AllexFer/status/981501358095265792

I am posting this here instead of making a new thread.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dh9ydHDUEAIgFSb?format=jpg

Bitcoin Cash now has also forked "Mastering Bitcoin" by Andreas Antonopoulis and added the word "Cash" in all the words "Bitcoin". Some people have no shame.

It's seems roger ver effect is not affected anymore.
It was affected on 2017 Q4 and make BCH price is a half of bitcoin price but people realize bitcoin cash is not really good

yes, of course because The position that Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin is based on its adherence to the design goals and intended purpose that Bitcoin was created to fulfill.

Roger ver is trying to say he is Stoshi nakamoto  ;)  because he wanna manipulate investors of bitcoin to BCH. this not possible bitcoin cash can replace bitcoin, because bitcoin is first blockchain based cryptocurrency and BCH was not much old. Just wanna say BCH never chase bitcoin so every time they angry if some talk good about bitcoins.

Maybe many people have Bitcoin Cash rather than Bitcoin.
Unfortunately, Bitcoin Cash has a visible and not anonymous founder like Bitcoin.

If the founder of Bitcoin Cash has a dark history, Bitcoin Cash will surely drop its price.

Bitcoin cash BCH is a fork of bitcoin in 2017 . The developers are part of bitcoin team but decided to create something to give bitcoin the run for their money in the market. But at the end bitcoin is still ahead of BCH in all ramifications.

Bitcoin Cash is the real currency of BITCOIN. Proof of Bitcoin's second-generation coin, promising a valuable coin in the future.
Now, this currency has a lot of investors paying attention and investing in this digital currency!