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since merit is impossible to get in this forum, even if you write good posts.

why dont we just exchange sell it to each other.

i have 22 merits i could give to someone if he then gives me 22 merits in return.

i doubt on the viability of this merit system.

regards

Perhaps this is a good idea. Merit can exchange to achieve their goals soon. But when a merit is given to someone by the manager, of course it has a binding clause.
I doubt about this issue!

This isn't in the right section. It should be in Meta.

But to answer your question, NO. Merit should not be sold or bought.

That means that merit can simply be bought or sold for any arbitrary quality posts. That opens the door for spammers who should be banned getting merit they shouldn't be getting.

Merits are for quality posts and good behavior only. When you allow the exchange of merits for money, you take away that property of merit that the admins wanted in order to keep spam under control.

Buying/Selling merits undermines the very principle that created the merit system. Ergo, no. (BTW WHAT DOES ERGO MEAN?)

action, which is legal
there will be no contradiction with the rules of the forum
there will be no negative credibility of such actions

Merit should not be sold but improved upon , make it a little bit easy for newbies

the problem is that its a broken system. many new forum members have issues with it.

If you do this, it can result in negative trust or even ban in some cases. It will make your profile useless and thus it is not worth doing.

well you will have then secrtive trades, this forum actually isnt helping with merits, people are not honest here anyway i just made this proposal as this system isnt necessarily hepling newbies

merit system is broken,

it actually looks almost like a central bank to me, only those administrating this forum are giving merit away, and they are giving it mainly to those that help pushing bitcoin, and not altcoins etc-

it looks like a government with new central bank  ;D

regards

Qouted for reference.

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Its considered right now as an untrustworthy behavior. Selling/Trading merit will result you in red trust.

The introduction of merit system is to cut down the shitposters from polluting the forum,if you have good quality posts still you are not getting merits then try to participate in the merit giveaway threads.

If you exchange the merit between others for the sake of rank up the reason for introduction of new requirements become void and and if you do means it will be consider as merit abuse and DT members will reward with you RED flag.

Now the choice is yours.Cheers!

you need to know, what you say is against the current rules. we all need merit if we want to improve the ranking. but it is not as easy as exchanging merit. because it is the same we allow the growth of spiders and peasants to increase. therefore the merit system is in place and valid for the next, I personally as well as you. it's hard to get merit, and this is a big obstacle, but it does not mean we have to despair, we can still work while following the campaign. and most importantly try better from day to day to get quality. although it is difficult

I think it will not really help newbies. Yes it will help in the ranking but will it help them to write constructive posts? I think its not appropriate if you do that.

This is strictly not allowed in the rules, I as a devout human I hold fast to the rules, I hope you should not do it because if you do then your account will be exposed to the law by the moderator.

i dont seek to insult the merit and the forums admins trial to have a secondary ranking next to activity.

its ok i recognize their work.

there will be a merit trade one way or the other, and be it a secretive one just like bitcoin trade beeing hiden from the governments and central banks.

but the merit in this forum looks also like a digital asset to me. people could get the idea selling it.

Then you will have either, old established users have the most attention taking accounts,

or you will have new billionaires, buying secretly people then.

coinmarket cap also lists only icos, if they are paying bitcoin to them, they dont take ico or other cryptocurrencies, but those at the beginning of cryptocurrencies dont have many bitcoin as they missed that movement.

same is with merit and account recognition.

the rules stays "those that came first" they "draw first"

total agree with you. but i think you should have some good posts to exchange merits.  ;)

Well trading and exchanging merit would mean you didn't earn it and your account might just end up getting flagged if you are not careful. I understand that getting merit is now very hard with the new system though.

jes good posts, are quite relative. i mean you have to have posts that are in the interest of someone. but the forum is not honest driven and "good" is actually not possible to be defined.

i think sooner or later if this forum will grow smart people will just trade and exchange merit, so their account looks better and is beeing trusted more when they push their ico.

the problem is that its not necessarily in the interest of the forum participaters to give away merit based on "good posts"

this merit system mutades into a new central bank with mainly the forum admins running it. and they give merits to post that are according to their interest, so if they are all deeply invested into bitcoin mining, they will not give merits to ico pushers.

etc.

small message to the admins of this forum, to prevent them from blaming themselves:

its not your fault, that the merit system isnt perfect, its simply that there cannot be a perfect system.

It's not allowed and you will get red trust for abusing the system in any way

it can be interpreted this way,

but it can also be interpreted that one hand washes the other,

if there are multiple icos that need to push their accounts appearance to get attention and trust, they could help each other this way, its in the end unavoidable, and i admit it can also be abused.

but so can the highly "subjective" "good" merit posting valuation be

actually I also want to approve your plan, but merit can not be said to be legally exchange, merit only given to those who make / post about something useful for forum

Merits are supposed to be earned and not exchanged, even though I am personally not very happy with the system (simply because I should have been a snr member now), I think it has brought order in the forum.

not possible to be legally exchanged?

hmmm, sounds interesting in a forum around a currency that cannot be legally exchanged in many countries of the world


sorry but i have to laugh at this, (not you and your post its just how the world is crazy)

 ;D

  That is what theymos said on merit trading.
DT Members- they are not allowed to red tag those who are trading and exchanging their merit as what The Pharmacist said.

As far as I remember, There is a thread that every user can post the link to their constructive post that worthy to receive merit. I'm highly against exchanging merit because it can be use by Account farmers if ever this method will be legalized. Anyway I'm open to give merits in constructive post. Just email your constructive post link.

Email Address: blockeye@tbz1.com


PS: I will send merits once every two weeks. Sending your links to me will not guarantee that you will receive merits from me because I will thoroughly check each entry. Goodluck

Thanks for this truthful comment. This Merit method is not working like it should in removing spam.

The fact is that the merit is increasingly difficult to find, the owner of smerit is more difficult to let other people. They only exchange and provide for another acc of them. I really admire people who only use smerit to help others. One of them is TMAN :)

Can you tell me about a central bank that gives you money, and then gives half of the amount that you spend to the recipient for him to spend.

The community gives most of the merits to other members as they see fit, it isn't the administrators. The admins give merits to trusted members to award to other members to keep the flow of merits. Where is the central control in that?

I think you misinterpreted what I wrote, which shouldn't be construed as giving people the freedom to openly post offers to trade merit like OP just did.  I tagged him accordingly.  

Who I'm not tagging are people I come across who have seemingly traded merit, where there's a judgement call to be made as to whether that's what's going on or not.  OP's is a very clear case.  He wrote an offer to trade merit with other users, and that's a violation of the rules of the system, or at least the spirit.  Not a potential violation: an actual violation.

But it's working great as far as keeping the low-ranked shitposters from ranking up.  Yeah, maybe some of them have slipped through the cracks, but I'm seeing plenty of them stuck at Jr. Member when they normally would have ranked up already.  It's certainly succeeding in that respect.  The fact that these shitposters are too stupid to realize they're not going to rank up can't be blamed on the merit system.  Eventually they'll learn.

Being Sr.Memberom  to complain of the impossibility of obtaining merit? ??? and what then to do for example a Jr.member of which initially number 0? The first time I meet a similar post about the exchange from the person with the highest rank. :-\

You utterly are wrong. As a matter of fact, if you write good posts, people will really reward you. But you should be active so your posts will be seen by others. Otherwise, no one will see them, thus no one would give you merit points. Added to that, you should not trade with merits because it is not allowed or else your account will get a negative trust. So, make good quality posts and then you will get merits.

I'm putting so many people on ignore these days.

If all you can do is to make low quality posts that aren't deserving of merit, why would a sig campaign manager want you associated with his programme?

Anyway you are right but you can't stop him exchanging his merits that may result in negative trust instead he find a post that help other users in bitcoin earn it with their quality post. If i were i you i would give merit to those user that post helpful information to make bitcointalk best crypto forum there is.

Do you already get replies on your suggestions through PM? :) Is there anyone who will be glad to exchange with you 22 Merits?
It is not impossible at all to gain merits. To someone it is going fast and to other ones slow. It is out of my target to grow higher on the forum, so I could send to one of your posts a Merit or two, but I will not. Just do not like beggars like you are :P

Just like you received 8 merits for a post in a mega spam thread  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2694216.msg30521865#msg30521865), where you typed some stuff in extremely broken english  ::), Which you conveniently received a couple days after you merited the user who merited you, greeklogo's, for this post,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2855783.msg30077370#msg30077370.

Hmmm. It sure goes fast when you trade it out with your friend huh? No way that anyone would ever merit that post with 8 merits unless he would know you.

That is the lack of justice.

regarding what the surpression of altcoins or the unsufficient amount of earnings for those "quality posters"