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Title: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: Spekulatius on November 06, 2013, 06:31:40 AM
http://i42.tinypic.com/10zu7wk.png

Its actually more then 10k already.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: chriswilmer on November 06, 2013, 06:32:11 AM
Maybe somebody wants Bitcoin to slow down a bit... :)


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: Faraday on November 06, 2013, 06:39:11 AM
Maybe somebody wants Bitcoin to slow down a bit... :)

Someone has some huge balls to trust anyone (especially Gox) with 10k bitcoin. These people freak me out. I would have a hard time sending 1 bitcoin to Gox.

unless... it is gox  :o


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: fr33d0miz3r on November 06, 2013, 06:40:19 AM
unless... it is gox  :o

yeah, maybe they are going to solve their fiat problems by slaughtering pigs?  ;D


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: keatonatron on November 06, 2013, 06:49:53 AM
I noticed that too, and came searching for this thread. It looks funny now that it's high and dry:

http://i41.tinypic.com/iqhjyc.jpg

Do you think it's someone who bought in big at $263 last April and has been waiting all this time to make a $10 profit on all their coins?



Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: smoothie on November 06, 2013, 06:51:08 AM
Buy into it and watch it get pulled.  :D


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: N12 on November 06, 2013, 06:51:46 AM
Same old, same old.

Surely it won't be withdrawn, it's just a guy who wants to sell 10k in one piece risking the market turning down from it. No shock action intended here. And surely he wants to be stuck with mtgoxUSD. :D

Watch out for unusual bid activity.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: spiderbrain on November 06, 2013, 06:53:27 AM
They're not new coins, that's half the existing coins on gox. When they're gone, what will the last 10k go for?


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: windjc on November 06, 2013, 06:54:06 AM
Buy into it and watch it get pulled.  :D

Probably. I usually don't believe in market manipulation most of the time, but that seller is either trying to discourage buying or they are just imbecilic. And I actually think it might be the latter, given the fact that they are selling 10k BTC on Gox anyway. Unless its some stupid Japanese person who doesn't realize that he/she are hurting the market by putting up a wall that big.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: smoothie on November 06, 2013, 06:54:33 AM
Same old, same old.

Surely it won't be withdrawn, it's just a guy who wants to sell 10k in one piece risking the market turning down from it. No shock action intended here. And surely he wants to be stuck with mtgoxUSD. :D

Watch out for unusual bid activity.

This ^


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: smoothie on November 06, 2013, 06:55:07 AM
Buy into it and watch it get pulled.  :D

Probably. I usually don't believe in market manipulation most of the time, but that seller is either trying to discourage buying or they are just imbecilic. And I actually think it might be the latter, given the fact that they are selling 10k BTC on Gox anyway. Unless its some stupid Japanese person who doesn't realize that he/she are hurting the market by putting up a wall that big.

Or Mark himself.  :D


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on November 06, 2013, 06:55:29 AM
Will it be bought in, or will it be dumped. Thats the question.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: N12 on November 06, 2013, 06:55:54 AM
It will be pulled. No question here.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: Faraday on November 06, 2013, 07:00:18 AM
Will it be bought in, or will it be dumped. Thats the question.

Is that you Mark?


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: prophetx on November 06, 2013, 07:06:17 AM
They would have dumped it already....

If that wall goes there is almost nothing left on gox (unless someone throws in more)


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: prophetx on November 06, 2013, 07:28:29 AM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/273_(number)


Kind of ironic...


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: TERA on November 06, 2013, 08:37:31 AM
China didnt give a flying fuck and was first to recover (early) to 1590, only 0.5% from its high. Stamp followed with a recovery to $253, only 1% below its high. Finally now gox is following. There are 1300BTC of new bids including a 608. Oh there goes the buying.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: windjc on November 06, 2013, 08:41:57 AM
China didnt give a flying fuck and was first to recover (early) to 1590, only 0.5% from its high. Stamp followed with a recovery to $253, only 1% below its high. Finally now gox is following. There are 1300BTC of new bids including a 608. Oh there goes the buying.

What 's the Chinese symbol for Honey Badger?


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: Zangelbert Bingledack on November 06, 2013, 08:53:33 AM
蜜獾 (http://baike.baidu.com/view/301749.htm)


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: Zangelbert Bingledack on November 06, 2013, 08:56:53 AM
This is the dynamic I predicted a few weeks ago, which looks like it's playing out:

there's a good chance at China forcing the West kicking and screaming through the traumatic memories of $266, which will be a good thing because the West may not have to deal with it, instead getting lifted up and carried past it by China.

China doesn't care about MtGox ATH that much, and the rest of the world doesn't care about 1600 round number of yuan much, etc. So we should see less stickiness at round numbers with this nice balance between the 3+ exchanges.

As for the huge wall, it's to be expected at an ATH where so many people have bad memories of failing to sell or not being able to sell. It could also be Roger Ver or another Bitcoin saint throwing their weight around a bit in an effort to keep the rally at a sustainable pace.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on November 06, 2013, 09:26:59 AM
They would have dumped it already....

If that wall goes there is almost nothing left on gox (unless someone throws in more)

That it isn't in the orderbook doesn't mean it isn't there. It can also mean that people have faith in bitcoin going to the moon and not risk losing their coins by making sell orders :)

But I think new orders will pop up when the wall is gone.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: phlogistonq on November 06, 2013, 11:00:44 AM
10k cheap coins. Get them while you can!

Perhaps the wall stays up for some time and the other exchanges simply ignore it.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: mp420 on November 06, 2013, 11:12:56 AM
Maybe it's the guy who sold the two pizzas.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: Piper67 on November 06, 2013, 12:38:11 PM
They're not new coins, that's half the existing coins on gox. When they're gone, what will the last 10k go for?

That's not half the existing coins on gox, it's half the existing coins on the order book. There could be many times that number in gox, but not on the book.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: prophetx on November 06, 2013, 01:22:52 PM
They would have dumped it already....

If that wall goes there is almost nothing left on gox (unless someone throws in more)

That it isn't in the orderbook doesn't mean it isn't there. It can also mean that people have faith in bitcoin going to the moon and not risk losing their coins by making sell orders :)

But I think new orders will pop up when the wall is gone.


 please read what I wrote in the parentheses


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: N12 on November 06, 2013, 03:02:04 PM
It will be pulled. No question here.
Aaaand it's pulled.

Unfortunately for him, he did not succeed in getting a lower entry point. :D

edit: Actually, looks like he is fracturing the ask to disguise it and make it look more organic.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: Walsoraj on November 06, 2013, 03:03:20 PM
It will be pulled. No question here.
Aaaand it's pulled.

Unfortunately for him, he did not succeed in getting a lower entry point. :D

Ask sum didn't change. Not pulled, just staggered or hidden better.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: Piper67 on November 06, 2013, 03:09:34 PM
It will be pulled. No question here.
Aaaand it's pulled.

Unfortunately for him, he did not succeed in getting a lower entry point. :D

edit: Actually, looks like he is fracturing the ask to disguise it and make it look more organic.

Or trying to make sure he/she has an escape route when the wall gets eaten into.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: smoothie on November 06, 2013, 03:13:16 PM
lol he pulled it and made smaller 1000 btc walls.

LOL as if no one still sees what he is doing.  :D :D


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: smoothie on November 06, 2013, 03:14:00 PM
It will be pulled. No question here.
Aaaand it's pulled.

Unfortunately for him, he did not succeed in getting a lower entry point. :D

edit: Actually, looks like he is fracturing the ask to disguise it and make it look more organic.

Pirate did the same thing...price still went where it was meant to go...

UP.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: N12 on November 06, 2013, 03:15:09 PM
Gone again. :D


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: wopwop on November 06, 2013, 03:15:59 PM
he realized he will never be able to withdraw his $2,5 million on GOX xD


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: phlogistonq on November 06, 2013, 03:17:18 PM
lol he pulled it and made smaller 1000 btc walls.

LOL as if no one still sees what he is doing.  :D :D

And now he pulled the staircase again as well. Guess he got the coins he wanted and we are free to go again.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on November 06, 2013, 03:18:26 PM
lol he pulled it and made smaller 1000 btc walls.

LOL as if no one still sees what he is doing.  :D :D

It's me playing around with nothing better to do... ;D

<whisper>Oh wait, I haven't even logged into Gox for months, ah well, one can dream of throwing BTC10k around, can't one?</whisper> ;D


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: Birdy on November 06, 2013, 04:01:05 PM
I think whoever is doing that wall-planting game of placing a wall and removing it once the first buys reach it, just "lost" 1k of his 10k stash (they got bought instantly).


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: Tzupy on November 06, 2013, 05:06:54 PM
He managed to sell 3.5k out of the 10k, but he may be running out of time.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: Birdy on November 06, 2013, 05:09:24 PM
He managed to sell 3.5k out of the 10k, but he may be running out of time.

Why? The longest time will be waiting for the Gox dollars anyway.

But I agree that he probably sold ~3.5k of his 10k stash already (and he is also kinda nuts with his wall orders, it's funny to watch).


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: Hfertig on November 06, 2013, 06:05:23 PM
and the remaining 6500 he is now showing at 266.9.

All he wants is cashing out at this level. I guess no move upwards until he is done


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: phlogistonq on November 06, 2013, 06:36:40 PM
pull... put back... make staircases.... then all in one bid again.
It must be a woman.
Make up your mind will ya?!


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: BitChick on November 06, 2013, 07:32:04 PM
I guess if you have 10,000 BTC now is the best time in the history of BTC to profit.  I think it is only going to keep going up with China on board now though so a little patience would be wise perhaps.  Maybe this person missed the opportunity in April and was determined to sell the next time it got to $266.  If I had 10,000 BTC I might be tempted to sell some too. ;)  But no such luck unfortunately.

But if this person is thinking of selling now and buying back lower later that might be a little risky.  Are we really sure it is going to go down again or are we priming the pump for a massive explosion?  I think we have just skimmed the surface of what is in store.  I am bullish though.  ;D


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: lambdaE on November 06, 2013, 07:38:44 PM
and the remaining 6500 he is now showing at 266.9.

All he wants is cashing out at this level. I guess no move upwards until he is done


Good game. The trickier part will be to get the USD out of MtGox

He wont get it out of MtGox, so new wall under 260, cool


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: yogi on November 06, 2013, 07:45:52 PM
and the remaining 6500 he is now showing at 266.9.

All he wants is cashing out at this level. I guess no move upwards until he is done


Good game. The trickier part will be to get the USD out of MtGox

He wont get it out of MtGox, so new wall under 260, cool

It's my understanding that the gox order-book shows all currencies, so they may not be trading to USD, but some other currency that he can withdraw.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: prophetx on November 06, 2013, 07:55:59 PM
look at bid wall on bitstamp...


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: phlogistonq on November 06, 2013, 07:58:41 PM
Alternative hypotheses:

1. He actually wants to buy a certain amount of coins below this price. So, the wall prevents the price form going up and he buys everything that appears under his wall in the orderbook, then lifts the wall when he has enough.

2. Someone found his old wallet with 10k coins, similarly to that Norwegian guy, and decided to cash out immediately. Without checking how best to go about it. Fortunately, he did not click 'sell now'.

3. Gox is gambling with our coins in hopes of solving their probable liquidity problem.



Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: derpinheimer on November 06, 2013, 07:58:57 PM
look at bid wall on bitstamp...
Its.. the same as it has been for.. quite awhile?

 ::)


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: yogi on November 06, 2013, 08:02:18 PM
It could be arbitrage between gox and bitstamp to bring them back into alignment. The gap is closing, now only $3-ish difference.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: lnternet on November 06, 2013, 08:07:50 PM
yeah how did this gap close so quickly? did I miss some gox news?


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: prophetx on November 06, 2013, 08:22:26 PM
maybe they aren't selling on gox because they know the money is not real


lol


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: P_Shep on November 06, 2013, 08:39:25 PM
Now only a few cents! That hasn't happened for a while.


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: dnaleor on November 06, 2013, 09:58:16 PM
Now only a few cents! That hasn't happened for a while.

what will happen? Exciting !!! :D

Serious buying @bitstamp, I bet the wall goes down!!!


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: dnaleor on November 06, 2013, 09:58:46 PM
maybe they aren't selling on gox because they know the money is not real


lol

or maybe it is Mark Karpeles himself...


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: hahahafr on November 07, 2013, 12:53:26 AM
In all seriousness it very well might be, because there's little logical reasons to sell that much coins on mtgox right now... On an exchange where you can get your usd maybe, but not on mtgox...


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: bitleif on November 07, 2013, 10:56:14 AM
Anyone who paid attention over the night know what happened to the wall? Did it get pulled or did we buy right through it?


Title: Re: 10k Sell wall just now
Post by: Ivanhoe on November 07, 2013, 11:25:52 AM
Anyone who paid attention over the night know what happened to the wall? Did it get pulled or did we buy right through it?
Bought right through the mofo.