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Title: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: TheGambler on November 06, 2013, 08:48:32 AM
chat seems to be working fine and bets are faster than ever !!


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: jambola2 on November 06, 2013, 10:30:48 AM
Before any of you think of "investing" after seeing the three happy customers , go to the original thread and read the posts.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: jambola2 on November 06, 2013, 10:40:10 AM
Before any of you think of "investing" after seeing the three happy customers , go to the original thread and read the posts.
I advise this to anyone...
I also recommend you don't send the BTC to the wrong address like this guy did!


I sent it to your bitcoin address given on your profile.
You denied receiving it and then gave me a story that you could not access it.
You have the BTC but are just going to deny access to them.

Again , do not invest in him.
The original thread had over a hundred posts , all accusing of him being a scammer / ponzi schemer, hence causing him to make a new thread.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: Martijnvdc on November 06, 2013, 10:50:58 AM
you have got to be kidding me...
get the fuck off of this forum. you're damaging the bitcoin community.

Does anybody want to split that 0.03 BTC with me, to give to jambola2?


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: jambola2 on November 06, 2013, 11:11:32 AM
Well , I have arranged a scammer litmus test.

How does this work ?

Firstly , give all your safety balance to a mod.
I am talking about the BTC you keep stored just in case your gambling fails.

If you do not return anyone's deposit in 48 hours , the moderator refunds the person.

The moderator should have more balance than all the investments at any given time.

This will confirm that you are not a scammer.

EDIT: I am pretty sure he has gone to "sleep" like he did the last time someone made a point against him.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: Eternity on November 06, 2013, 02:03:17 PM
Why should anyone trust you ?


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: b!z on November 06, 2013, 02:13:39 PM
I think you messed up the graphic a bit. I made a nicer one for you to put in your thread:
https://i.imgur.com/I301Won.png


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: dooglus on November 06, 2013, 05:07:05 PM
There's a frequently asked question you didn't address:

Q: Since you claim to have coins to replace any lost investments, why not just gamble with those coins and keep all profits for yourself?

The only explanation I can think of is that you plan to steal the investments at some point in the future.  But if there's an alternative explanation that I didn't think of, please provide it.  Answers like "your stupid" aren't really answers.

Until this is explained, this whole venture looks very much like a scam.

Also, the link at the end of your last thread points to itself, not here.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: fluidjax on November 06, 2013, 05:25:01 PM
This is a scam... Take your crap somewhere else!


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: danieldaniel on November 06, 2013, 07:47:30 PM
Before any of you think of "investing" after seeing the three happy customers , go to the original thread and read the posts.
I advise this to anyone...
I also recommend you don't send the BTC to the wrong address like this guy did!


I sent it to your bitcoin address given on your profile.
You denied receiving it and then gave me a story that you could not access it.
You have the BTC but are just going to deny access to them.

Again , do not invest in him.
The original thread had over a hundred posts , all accusing of him being a scammer / ponzi schemer, hence causing him to make a new thread.


Did you make a post in the Scam section? This guy should be labeled as a scammer.
Anyone who invests in a "professional gambling" service deserves to lose their money.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: jambola2 on November 07, 2013, 02:13:05 AM
Well , I have arranged a scammer litmus test.

How does this work ?

Firstly , give all your safety balance to a mod.
I am talking about the BTC you keep stored just in case your gambling fails.

If you do not return anyone's deposit in 48 hours , the moderator refunds the person.

The moderator should have more balance than all the investments at any given time.

This will confirm that you are not a scammer.

EDIT: I am pretty sure he has gone to "sleep" like he did the last time someone made a point against him.

Follow these instructions and no-one will doubt you.
The only visible reason to not use a mod to ensure the people's safety is if you plan to scam.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: b!z on November 07, 2013, 03:44:57 AM
There's a frequently asked question you didn't address:

Q: Since you claim to have coins to replace any lost investments, why not just gamble with those coins and keep all profits for yourself?

The only explanation I can think of is that you plan to steal the investments at some point in the future.  But if there's an alternative explanation that I didn't think of, please provide it.  Answers like "your stupid" aren't really answers.

Until this is explained, this whole venture looks very much like a scam.

Also, the link at the end of your last thread points to itself, not here.
You all forgot an important point I mentioned
This whole service is to build a base of trust for the new website that I am creating
If you don't like that, don't invest in it
Answer the question.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: dooglus on November 07, 2013, 06:25:26 AM
There's a frequently asked question you didn't address:

Q: Since you claim to have coins to replace any lost investments, why not just gamble with those coins and keep all profits for yourself?

The only explanation I can think of is that you plan to steal the investments at some point in the future.  But if there's an alternative explanation that I didn't think of, please provide it.  Answers like "your stupid" aren't really answers.

Until this is explained, this whole venture looks very much like a scam.

Also, the link at the end of your last thread points to itself, not here.
You all forgot an important point I mentioned
This whole service is to build a base of trust for the new website that I am creating
If you don't like that, don't invest in it

There's no question of me "investing" in your scam.

My purpose here isn't to clear up my one remaining doubt before having you make me untold riches.

My purpose is to make it clear that you are attempting to scam people.

Your refusal to answer my question makes the point more clearly than I ever could.

Q: "Why would you want to gamble with other people's money instead of using your own and keeping all the profits?"

A: "Because I want to build up trust so I can gamble with even more of other people's money instead of using my own and keeping all the profits"

Uh huh.  Good luck fooling anyone with that circular logic.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: junshong on November 07, 2013, 09:25:39 AM
When will I expect payment? Please pay me ASAP, need some funds.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: TheQuin on November 07, 2013, 09:41:08 AM

Q: "Why would you want to gamble with other people's money instead of using your own and keeping all the profits?"

A: "Because I want to build up trust so I can gamble with even more of other people's money instead of using my own and keeping all the profits"

Uh huh.  Good luck fooling anyone with that circular logic.

The same is true of anything offering unrealistic profits. If anyone had a guaranteed system or risk free investment they would just do it for themselves.
If it seems too good to be true, that is because it is.




Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: blo8i on November 08, 2013, 07:18:18 PM
i tried with 0.05 BTC

he was not on time i send the bitcoins to him 05-11-2013 and i just got 0.0625 today.
i cent say if he will keep on doing what he does, so if you want to try this, only do this with coins you wont miss.

https://blockchain.info/address/17TPsG5KA8rbB85vzEo3UDK4rJ8LCG8tFB


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: b!z on November 09, 2013, 02:17:17 PM
There's a frequently asked question you didn't address:

Q: Since you claim to have coins to replace any lost investments, why not just gamble with those coins and keep all profits for yourself?

The only explanation I can think of is that you plan to steal the investments at some point in the future.  But if there's an alternative explanation that I didn't think of, please provide it.  Answers like "your stupid" aren't really answers.

Until this is explained, this whole venture looks very much like a scam.

Also, the link at the end of your last thread points to itself, not here.
You all forgot an important point I mentioned
This whole service is to build a base of trust for the new website that I am creating
If you don't like that, don't invest in it
Answer the question.
I've already answered it in the original thread
to build a base of trust and to prove that this works. simple as that.

Why do you need to build a base of trust?
Why do you need to prove that it works?


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: b!z on November 09, 2013, 02:24:53 PM
There's a frequently asked question you didn't address:

Q: Since you claim to have coins to replace any lost investments, why not just gamble with those coins and keep all profits for yourself?

The only explanation I can think of is that you plan to steal the investments at some point in the future.  But if there's an alternative explanation that I didn't think of, please provide it.  Answers like "your stupid" aren't really answers.

Until this is explained, this whole venture looks very much like a scam.

Also, the link at the end of your last thread points to itself, not here.
You all forgot an important point I mentioned
This whole service is to build a base of trust for the new website that I am creating
If you don't like that, don't invest in it
Answer the question.
I've already answered it in the original thread
to build a base of trust and to prove that this works. simple as that.

Why do you need to build a base of trust?
Why do you need to prove that it works?
1. Explained this 100 times...I am building a site where you can do this exact same thing so I decided doing this service here would prove that this is legitimate.
2. See above.
You need to prove it is legitimate to prove it is legitimate. Thanks, that makes sense.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: dooglus on November 09, 2013, 02:40:36 PM
You need to prove it is legitimate to prove it is legitimate. Thanks, that makes sense.

I think I've figured out the logic:

1. Why do you give half your profits to investors?  To prove I'm for reals.

2. Why do you need to prove you're for reals?  So I can attract more investors.

3. Why do you want more investors?  So I can give half my profits to them.

4. GOTO 1


It seems to be a feedback loop building up more and more trust, more and more investors, more and more coins.

I wonder how it will end.  There has to be SOME kind of profit motive in it for him, but I can't figure it out...


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: lightlord on November 11, 2013, 08:25:50 PM
TheGambler Absurd Money making Project
--------------------
[Investor]
1) Investor send to TheGambler.
2) TheGambler takes the funds.
3) Does some magic.
4) Returns 25% to investor. (Thegambler keeps 25% for himself)

Or

[Himself]
1) TheGambler takes his funds.
2) Does some magic
3) Returns 50% to himself. (Thegambler Keeps 50% for himself)
4) Goto [Himself]

Thegambler starts with, 10 coins

10,15,22.5,33.75,50.625,75.9375,113.90625,170.859375,256.289062,384.433594,576.650391,864.975586,1297.46338,1946.19507,2919.2926,4378.9389,6568.40836
,9852.61253,14778.9188,22168.3782,33252.5673,49878.851,74818.2764,112227.415,168341.122,252511.683,378767.524,568151.287,852226.93,1278340.39,1917510.59
,2876265.89,4314398.83,6471598.25,9707397.37,14561096.1,21841644.1

Wow you own all the bitcoins in the world!!!  :o
*Really you believe your scheme works?


So what's the logic of going to investor routine. Why not the other option?
If you wanted to build trust, trust isn't built upon shady services.
Also even if a few ppl fall for this, the OP will most likely pay just a few,
just to look more legit, to hook bigger fish, then Run away.
Classic hook the fish scam.

So several options.

1) Your a Troll
2) Your a Scam Artist.
3) All of the above.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: Martijnvdc on November 11, 2013, 08:33:23 PM
TheGambler Absurd Money making Project
--------------------
[Investor]
1) Investor send to TheGambler.
2) TheGambler takes the funds.
3) Does some magic.
4) Returns 25% to investor. (Thegambler keeps 25% for himself)

Or

[Himself]
1) TheGambler takes his funds.
2) Does some magic
3) Returns 50% to himself. (Thegambler Keeps 50% for himself)

So what's the logic of going to investor routine. Why not the other option?
If you wanted to build trust, trust isn't built upon shady services.
Also even if a few ppl fall for this, the OP will most likely pay just a few,
just to look more legit, to hook bigger fish, then Run away.
Classic hook the fish scam.

So several options.

1) Your a Troll
2) Your a Scam Artist.
3) All of the above.
OR he's a horrible mathematician who genuinly believes martingaling reduces the house odds to something negative.
But yeah, it's a scam.
On top of that, he's been insulting a lot of people here on this forum.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: Dabs on November 12, 2013, 05:04:07 AM
I used to have something similar. But it died. hehehe. At least everyone involved knew it was a gamble.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: Dabs on November 12, 2013, 07:47:33 AM
I might stake a good poker player. But that's about it.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: Martijnvdc on November 12, 2013, 08:09:45 AM
I can't believe people would fall for this. Would you do something similar if you were to visit a casino yourself?
In a real casino he would be even less popular than on here LOL
The fact that bitcoin can be anonymous makes it attract more scammers, i suppose.
I might stake a good poker player. But that's about it.
I actually put some money on pokerbyproxy a while ago. I then withdrew with a tiny profit but i still don't trust them. I'm not going to test their website with a serious amount of money either.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: junshong on November 13, 2013, 10:51:37 AM
Haven't received a payment from days ago. He said he would contact Stunna but I haven't see the coins in my wallet now.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: Rannasha on November 13, 2013, 11:02:05 AM
TheGambler Absurd Money making Project
--------------------
[Investor]
1) Investor send to TheGambler.
2) TheGambler takes the funds.
3) Does some magic.
4) Returns 25% to investor. (Thegambler keeps 25% for himself)

Or

[Himself]
1) TheGambler takes his funds.
2) Does some magic
3) Returns 50% to himself. (Thegambler Keeps 50% for himself)
4) Goto [Himself]

Thegambler starts with, 10 coins

10,15,22.5,33.75,50.625,75.9375,113.90625,170.859375,256.289062,384.433594,576.650391,864.975586,1297.46338,1946.19507,2919.2926,4378.9389,6568.40836
,9852.61253,14778.9188,22168.3782,33252.5673,49878.851,74818.2764,112227.415,168341.122,252511.683,378767.524,568151.287,852226.93,1278340.39,1917510.59
,2876265.89,4314398.83,6471598.25,9707397.37,14561096.1,21841644.1

Wow you own all the bitcoins in the world!!!  :o
*Really you believe your scheme works?


So what's the logic of going to investor routine. Why not the other option?
If you wanted to build trust, trust isn't built upon shady services.
Also even if a few ppl fall for this, the OP will most likely pay just a few,
just to look more legit, to hook bigger fish, then Run away.
Classic hook the fish scam.

So several options.

1) Your a Troll
2) Your a Scam Artist.
3) All of the above.
1. Primedice has a bank, so it isn't possible to own all the coins in the world
They still have enough of a bank for plenty of profits. And afterwards you can go to Just-Dice, which has a bank of 57,000 coins, which is more than $20M these days.

Quote
2. I have stated time and time again to you, that it is not possible to just pop 1000 coins out of no where or keep doing 50%...I could, yes keep on going and going and going but it would take me extremely long amounts of time and would result in yes maybe a nice payout at the end of the day but not as much as what I could achieve if I took in investments and did it all at once.

It would take you extremely long amounts of time to make the money with your own bankroll? Lets run the numbers. You guarantee +25% after 48 hours. You say you can do more, but lets use the worst-case scenario of 25%. After 4 weeks, 14 of these 48 hour periods have passed. How much has your initial investment grown? That's 1.25^14 = 22.7. So 1 coin became almost 23. That's more than $8000 in 4 weeks, already quite a bit more than the average person makes in a western country. And the next month? Those 23 coins grow to 517 coins or nearly $200K at current rates.

So with a measly 1 BTC bankroll your 'strategy' could make you a very comfortable annual wage in 2 months and have enough coins left to become a (USD-)millionaire in the next momth.

Do you now see why your plan is absurd?


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: Hili on November 13, 2013, 11:28:12 AM
2. I have stated time and time again to you, that it is not possible to just pop 1000 coins out of no where or keep doing 50%...I could, yes keep on going and going and going but it would take me extremely long amounts of time and would result in yes maybe a nice payout at the end of the day but not as much as what I could achieve if I took in investments and did it all at once.

Wow, I'm starting to think that you're believing your own crap... You're really good at contradicting yourself as well.

How is it that you can work the guaranteed gambling strategy using other people's money, but not with yours? 1 BTC = 1 BTC... If 1000 BTC is too large of a sum to play with at once, then don't use 1000 BTC at once -_-'...

If it's going to take you too much time to work the gamble on your own, how do investments help? Seeing as you already have enough money to backup those investments.
Instead of asking for investments, you can use your own backup funds. Just send yourself some btc, resembling investment-like amounts.


Please respond using non-circular logic, without contradicting yourself or stating that you simply want to gain trust. Please prove that this is not a ponzi-scheme or just a 'oops, funds dissappeared'-scam.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: Dabs on November 13, 2013, 11:42:48 AM
Yeah, I once offered 8% per week, but with a 1% risk of losing it all. hehehe, anyone remember DIGS?


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: ninjatflex on November 13, 2013, 12:12:12 PM
If I could earn a safe 25% of my investments every day through gambling I wouldn't bother with a paid sig. Dust by comparison.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: Martijnvdc on November 13, 2013, 12:45:06 PM
We should let this thread be... We know it's a scam, we know he'll keep running around in circles.
Nobody will be stupid enough to invest in his system.

Let's give him another chance after he has set up his website.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: Martijnvdc on November 13, 2013, 01:01:28 PM
We should let this thread be... We know it's a scam, we know he'll keep running around in circles.
Nobody will be stupid enough to invest in his system.

Let's give him another chance after he has set up his website.

i already have 15 investments, 12 of which have been returned 3 of which are being worked on and returned today.
let it be that's quite alright...Most people PM over post anyway.
show us the transaction id's
you're just waiting for someone to send 5 BTC so you can run away with all the money


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: ninjatflex on November 13, 2013, 01:03:33 PM
We should let this thread be... We know it's a scam, we know he'll keep running around in circles.
Nobody will be stupid enough to invest in his system.

Let's give him another chance after he has set up his website.

i already have 15 investments, 12 of which have been returned 3 of which are being worked on and returned today.
let it be that's quite alright...Most people PM over post anyway.

Which members have invested? Surely all 15 can't be adverse to being mentioned here. If we could verify that anyone's actually made returns from this it would help you out.

Also why does it still say 0 BTC invested on your first page if you've already had 15 and returned 12 investments?


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: Martijnvdc on November 13, 2013, 01:05:22 PM
We should let this thread be... We know it's a scam, we know he'll keep running around in circles.
Nobody will be stupid enough to invest in his system.

Let's give him another chance after he has set up his website.

i already have 15 investments, 12 of which have been returned 3 of which are being worked on and returned today.
let it be that's quite alright...Most people PM over post anyway.

Which members have invested? Surely all 15 can't be adverse to being mentioned here. If we could verify that anyone's actually made returns from this it would help you out.

Also why does it still say 0 BTC invested on your first page if you've already had 15 and returned 12 investments?
Two possibilities:
1) he forgot, even though it's the only things he has to remember
2) he's lying


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: Dabs on November 13, 2013, 01:24:28 PM
https://blockchain.info/address/1FHPSCjsV6tt3EZbv22qN72esFWhJzDyL6

I see a few transactions. Only 9 though, not 15 or 12.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: moderate on November 13, 2013, 01:36:26 PM
This forum continues to be stupid, it is a shame. Why the hell do you even reply to this ? Just ignore it completely. It is incredibly simple and it works.


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: fluidjax on November 13, 2013, 03:26:59 PM
This forum continues to be stupid, it is a shame. Why the hell do you even reply to this ? Just ignore it completely. It is incredibly simple and it works.

Because its fun.
Most aren't here to obtain a specific result,  other than possibly educating a potential victim


Title: Re: Re: Primedice | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC
Post by: Wipeout2097 on November 13, 2013, 06:35:05 PM
Please provide a long, uncut video of consistent gains, where you are gambling