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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: HarimauMalaysia on April 05, 2018, 06:06:03 AM



Title: Exposing A Translator Cheating Using Google Translate 100% In Translation Bounty
Post by: HarimauMalaysia on April 05, 2018, 06:06:03 AM
I'm writing to expose and individual who participated in several ICO translations who was able to cheat by using Google Translator 100% and got away with it.  
First, let me expose this fraudster, then I will present you the evidence and how he managed not to get caught and got away with possibly lots of tokens earned from the bounty campaigns:

His Bitcointalk Name is: lamcouz
His Bitcointalk Profile Link is:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1300690 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1300690)
His posts:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=1300690;sa=showPosts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=1300690;sa=showPosts)

Evidently, IAMCOUZ has been translating several ICOs into Malay & Chinese languages, some of these ICOs are: Utemis, OTTPAY, Pitch, DragonCoin, Lunes, SGPay, Streamity, SVProof, World Wi-Fi, IQeon & Experty.  

He has been using Google translate, word by word 100% and I will present you the evidence below.  There is no need for you to understand Malay language, all you need to do is compare the words! 100% Google Translate.  Google translator is only accurate to a certain degree, but not exactly word by word.

How did he do it and not get caught?  Well, for most of the Malay language translations, he posted the translation in the English language ANN Thread (in violation of the forum rule), not the local Malaysian Language board.  He also posted some of the Malay Language translation in the Indonesian thread.  Had he posted the translation in the MALAYSIAN thread, he would've been caught a long time ago.

So here some of the examples of his translations.  As you can see, they are Google translate, word by word 100%:

1)  OTPPAY:  

Link to the Original English Language Version:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2874336.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2874336.0)
Link to the translated Malay Version:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3082123.msg31786313#msg31786313 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3082123.msg31786313#msg31786313)

https://i.imgur.com/EQr214m.png
https://i.imgur.com/yagAca6.png

2)  World Wi-Fi:

Here's the original OTPPAY ANN: http:// https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2518622.0
Here's the translated version:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2832694.msg29039749#msg29039749
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2832694.msg29039749#msg29039749)
https://i.imgur.com/2o51Rdk.png
https://i.imgur.com/wHSQPjW.png

3)  Pitch:

Link to the Original English Language Version: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2916020 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2916020)
Link to the translated Malay Version:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3016988.msg31022438#msg31022438 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3016988.msg31022438#msg31022438)

https://i.imgur.com/hzt4OOM.png
https://i.imgur.com/2DGB48r.png

4)  IQeon

Link to the original English Language Version:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2479328.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2479328.0)
Link to the translated Malay version: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2825418.msg28943415#msg28943415 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2825418.msg28943415#msg28943415)

https://i.imgur.com/MwRA4Ej.png
https://i.imgur.com/1wtP92p.png

5) Experty

Link to the original English Language Version:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2337020.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2337020.0)
Link to the translated Malay Version: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2671085.msg27264259#msg27264259 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2671085.msg27264259#msg27264259)

https://i.imgur.com/1HHqZ6X.png
https://i.imgur.com/36IdoVC.png
https://i.imgur.com/g2y7ohx.png




I guess at the end, doesn't matter how smart the person is, he/she always get caught.  Hopefully he'll get banned from all translation bounty campaigns.

P/S:

1)  I do not know if the Chinese translations were using Google translator as well.  I made made the case for the MALAY version only because I am Malaysian!  If he is a Malaysian, I am very ashamed of him.  

2)  I have no vested interest in exposing him other than it's not fair to others and he's been earning tokens he didn't deserve.

3)  I have reported this person to most of the bounty managers involved, although most of the ICOs already ended.

4)  This post was originally posted somewhere else but I was suggested to re-post here.  Here's the link to my original post:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3238663.msg33746068#msg33746068

5)  If you are a bounty manager, please consider banning this person from the translation bounty, if not the entire bounty.


Title: Re: Exposing A Translator Cheating Using Google Translate 100% In Translation Bounty
Post by: Lauda on April 05, 2018, 09:53:44 PM
You should check his translation with the Google translate one using a plagiarism checking tool and then add those results as well. That makes it easier to review this.


Title: Re: Exposing A Translator Cheating Using Google Translate 100% In Translation Bounty
Post by: HarimauMalaysia on April 12, 2018, 05:24:05 AM
You should check his translation with the Google translate one using a plagiarism checking tool and then add those results as well. That makes it easier to review this.

I am a Malaysian, and I know for a fact that this member was using Google translator, word for word.  Hopefully someone with a powerful rank can tag this person with a negative feedback so that we can prevent others from doing the same thing.  It is not ethical, not fair to other translators and should not be condoned.  Thanks.

Check out the comments from my original post which was posted in the wrong section.  Sorry about that.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3238663.msg33727909#msg33727909 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3238663.msg33727909#msg33727909)


Title: Re: Exposing A Translator Cheating Using Google Translate 100% In Translation Bounty
Post by: RJX on April 12, 2018, 09:58:19 AM
You should check his translation with the Google translate one using a plagiarism checking tool and then add those results as well. That makes it easier to review this.

I am a Malaysian, and I know for a fact that this member was using Google translator, word for word.  


No doubt. However, for the sake of the review please add plagiarism checking tool results. Diffchecker (https://www.diffchecker.com/UlOl9s8u) does the trick and it will give you a result that looks like this:

(This is the first paragraph from the OTPPAY text you provided)

https://i.imgur.com/VUyL468.jpg (https://www.diffchecker.com/UlOl9s8u)

This result supports your 'word for word' claim as it shows no removals and no additions.

You should also archive the links you provide because a cheater can simply change his post when he sees this thread and afterwards claim that he's being harassed by some gooback out for his job. Archive.today (https://archive.fo/aEpsp) works fine I guess, this link contains the archived Malay OTPPAY ANN from user 'lamcouz' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1300690).













Title: Re: Exposing A Translator Cheating Using Google Translate 100% In Translation Bounty
Post by: CoderTerganteng on April 13, 2018, 03:57:39 PM
Hey u know at malaysian got chinese, maybe he can talk both...  ! We Malaysian Got Many People , Indian , Chinese,