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As I’m sure you all know John McAfee famously tweeted on July 17 2017 when BTC was at $2,245, that he would eat his appendage if BTC wasn’t worth $1M by the end of 2020 - and he’d upped that from an earlier prediction of $500K! And he’s stuck strenuously to that line up to now, making him a famous or infamous man! 

I recently put up a simple log chart of bitcoins long-term growth trend line from 2010 to Mar 2018 and beyond  https://imgur.com/gallery/9iF3t . As you can see my best fit extrapolation line of BTC’s growth over the last 8 years if it continues the same, has it at a price of ‘only’ 50K by the end of 2020 - and not hitting the magic 1 million until 2025. Mr M take note - you’ll be eating your dick hehe! And ANN before you jump on me for making a crazy long term ‘prediction’ - I again emphasise that long-term extrapolation is an interesting exercise especially for bitcoin believers at times of FUD, but it’s in no way meant to be taken as predictive of what will happen in the future.

But McAfee was even more optimistic working off a mathematical model that had an even steeper upward hyperbolic growth rate, much like this interesting Rainbow Bitcoin Moon Model that a group of subredditors maintain https://www.moonmath.win/ - which as recently as yesterday (04/04/2018) was predicting a BTC price of 1 million on 31/12/2020 in that last column under the graph, which looks at projected growth of BTC using prices from “July 2010 to Apr 2018”. Today I note that predicted 1 million BTC date has slipped to 24/08/2021, with BTC’s 7% fall in the last 24/24 to $6,850 - volatility noted!

And here’s a very nice site that uses McAfee’s prediction and continued upward parabolic upward growth of BTC to show if he’s on target or not- https://bircoin.top/ , and it links to his original famous July 2017 tweet - wonder if he’ll leave that up to end 2020? And hey as in all things in life I believe there has to be some light-hearted stuff in crypto, as well as all the serious stuff!

As you can see from the chart on the site interestingly McAfee was well on target up until now, and it’s only in the last week that the BTC price has fallen below that hyperbolic upwards growth line - which today was at 7.9K. And if you slide the slider all the way to the right to Dec 2020, you’ll see how dramatic BTC’s historic parabolic growth rate looks on a linear price chart when its continued for another 3 years to fit in exactly with McAfee’s 1 million BTC at end 2020 tweet - and which is pretty what BTC’s price is projected to do with continuation of its historic growth rate on the Rainbow chart, and in my chart but at a slower rate of rise that I hand-drew to I think fit the historic data better.

It all looks so impossible on the linear price chart, which is why I like to look at the log chart of BTC’s price, and if you click on the “all (log)” button on the bitcoin.top site you’ll see the BTC long term trend growth line in linear fashion like mine - but with the one to fit in with McAfee’s prediction rising at a steeper angle than mine. But again remember that this isn’t predictive except for what McAfee said, and the continued upward parabolic growth on the eat-a-dick site is instead showing what BTC needs to do to save John’s manhood!

But hey it was a brave call by John to make that prediction in July 17 when BTC was at an ATH of 2.2K wasn’t it, and I wonder how many of us at the time would have thought that BTC would do 9x and hit an ATH of 19K exactly 5 months after his July tweet and before the year was out - but hey he’s doing okay reportedly charging $105K for a sponsored tweet about an ICO or shitcoin to his 813K Twitter followers - many of whom no doubt followed him after his infamous July 17 tweet which raised his profile in the crypto and general community enormously hmmmm. He played it well, but I wonder what comments someone on here would have got if they’d posted a prediction in July last year when it was at 2.2K that BTC would have a 2017 high of $19K - and link me if you know of any threads like that. They make interesting reading looking back with the benefit of hindsight of course, like many of the threads that come up now from Oct/Nov last year or Jan/Feb this year.

I personally don’t believe that BTC can get to 1 million by the end of 2020, but it MIGHT 5 or 10 or 20 years later. And I don’t know what to make of McAfee and his flashy lifestyle, but I don’t believe he’ll eat his dick for New Year’s Day dinner 2021- but who knows, and maybe there’s a twist in the tale and an angry lovers already cut his dick off and he could fix a sausage there for the meal haha.

But seriously I think it’s been a topic worth looking at, and I’m interested in what others think of the BTC price prediction in his tweet from July last year that he was adamant about!  And what you think of whether that hyperbolic upward growth rate that BTCs been doing for the last 8 years will continue long-term enough to save John’s bacon, or whether BTCs going to splutter and stop growing parabolically? And my best guess is that I believe we will see continued growth to a 1 million BTC due to continued increase in use and ownership and it being increasingly sought after as a finite store of value, but I think the continued parabolic growth to achieve that using the historic data will be slower than McAfee predicts  - and that we won’t see a 1 million BTC until at least the second half of the next decade or later! And finally if you can take the man seriously, is John going to eat that dick he reportedly uses a lot or not?

so some people still believed his word ?
look at this;

do you still believe it ? and everything that he says ?
you must be out of your mind if you believe or have a faith on him.
he sold his credibility and popularity*(no idea he has it or not) for shilling a shitcoin as long as you pay him $1.000.000
about Bitcoin price,it can go to that level and at the same time it can not.
just focus on what we face in the next few days later and make a best strategy based on our current market.



source : https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/976165863085756416

I've seen news recently about McAfee charging $105,000 for a single tweet promoting some altcoin of choice by those willing to pay the insane sum:

http://bitcoinist.com/want-john-mcafee-promote-cryptocurrency-itll-cost-105000-per-tweet/

More:

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/9knnpz/john-mcafee-twitter-coin-of-the-day-cryptocurrency-markets

This guy is a complete scammer, and anyone should have realized when he was seen with the Roger-Ver-Craig-Ayra team. They are mere pump and dumpers. They don't think long term, otherwise they would be supporting Bitcoin, not BCash and other assorted scams.

Now this doesn't mean the price prediction isn't possible, anything is possible. Personally I see $100,000 within the next decade, at the start actually, and $500,000 is definitely possible within 20's decade.

Before he went down as a famewhore seeking for someone to extort money from, I always believed whatever that guy has been saying. But now, seeing that he has been using his short-lived fame to get money from starting ICOs and services, I wouldn't trust him one bit. Obviously he will be trying to work his way out of whatever the hell he said when he was hyping bitcoin to reach $1M in 2020. He's nothing but a scammer and a complete asshole right now. He might not eat his own dick on live TV, but the trust he garnered had already been lost during the process.

Agreed. He seems to just be abusing his fame and celebrity status for money now.

I have also read an article saying that he charges $105k for promo tweets. Basically a paid to promote type of guy.

And these outrageous predictions that make eye catching headlines just make his publicity even more well known, and newbies think that he is a real crypto expert. The truth is that he is most likely wrong, even in the most bullish scenario I wouldn't see bitcoin going to $1 million by 2020. The least it'll take is at least a decade, in my opinion, and that'll depend on if hyperinflation strikes or not.

I used to think that he was pro-bitcoin, but now I think he's just trying to make a quick buck out of this bitcoin bull market. His predictions are not helping bitcoin grow in any way, in fact it's just going to reinforce the idea that bitcoin is some sort of money making machine.

While reading his tweet I'm feeling that his serious and determined with his bet that bitcoin will go $1,000,000 soon. But I have doubt with this speculation, he can change his prediction few months before the said date for that prediction and will just give an apology since his reputation was damaged already because of pumping ICO's. I care if bitcoin's price will reach $50,000 - $1,000,000 but I don't care if John will eat his dick. What's important to me is that he's countering those FUDsters that are dominating different social media platforms and news website nowadays

yes i could not agree more,
even though he is a douchebag,but we could not deny the fact that he tried his best to defend it on his twitter.
and i admit it that some of his tweets were defending people from fear and panic.
but at the same time we should know the fact that he sold his soul for promoting an ICOs.
well,he was like a double edge sword.
nobody's perfect,right ?

P.S : Still,i do not believe him

So he's basically now saying that if he loses the bet he'll have his dick sucked for years by some prostitute. What an asshole.

Yeah that's what he said on his tweet. I admire him before for giving me some good hope that bitcoin will eventually reach his price and gambled with that condition but now, I don't believe with his lies anymore. He has no more credibility.  :-\

Thank you for this link. I keep telling people not to fall for snake oil. Look, I believe in Bitcoin as much as others. Probably more than most people, probably more than McAfee. I do not even have 1 BTC to my name, but I collect as much as I can. OK, I gambled a lot of it away too, but hey, using Bitcoin helps it grow the most, correct?

McAfee is all about fame and money. Now he will take 100k to shill anything that his lawyers think is shillable.

This explains the obsession of people with social media... not only they like to share what they do, but they aren't dumb, they know there's money to be made out of a big subscriber/follower count, which is exactly why you have a ton of idiots doing crazy shit to get notoriety on these social medias. For example, all these kids doing insanely risky stuff like parkours, jumping from building to building, taking extreme selfies... they just want the notoriety, which leads to the money.

Well this was always the case. Fame leads to easy money... but nowadays it's even easier, you just have to make a tweet or take a picture showing a product to your millions of followers and you get paid insane sums, as seen by the McAfee case.

What, you or everyone here thought he is going to do it?
You make millions with your investments and you cut (and then eat) one of the best ways to spend those money?
Of course it was just a tweet that was supposed to pump the price.


At least those guys are risking some limbs while doing that, some have even died like that kid in China.
This guy is not risking anything, he is just cashing on his fame and when the day comes he will just ignore and delete all the comments asking him to keep his promise.
But he will do this with a 1k$ cigar in his mouth enjoying the sunshine in some tropical island.

His interest is in hyping himself and his 'business'. The fact we're still talking about something pulled direct from his arse with nothing to back it up shows it's working. And I'll bet he converts straight to dollars too.

There is only interesting prediction in this market, which is by masterluc. Other ones ordinary and mostly wrong predictions. McAfee is an ordinary guy making lots of money with the fools in crypto.  :)

I dont see it hitting one million anywhere soon, let alone 2020.
I think he has a losing bet going his way. i hope he is right, though. That would be good for all of us.

Well here it is, although McAfee comment sometimes appeared to make no sense, but he has a firm stand on his words, this is an important point for all of us especially against FUDsters whose news has been troubling and makes my hands itch. Now we go back to ourselves, have we all done something positive about bitcoin growth? ...


You are right that's what is more aptly be called a struggle, every struggle will usually lead to different opinions (pros and cons) that really need not be exaggerated, it's good if we take a more positive side that can bring real benefit to the interests of many people, let McAfee struggle with its own way, while we support McAfee struggle from behind in a more subtle and realistic way.

There is no way that bitcoin is going to go to $1 million at the end of 2020.

John McAfee is just not credible any more after he made those outrageous predictions as well as the revealed fact that he was getting paid outrageous amounts of money for crypto related promo tweets.

It doesn't really matter if the prediction fails or not, because he's got the publicity he's looking for.

But it definitely won't happen. Bitcoin price will not go 200 fold in 2 years. The maximum I can agree with would be $100,000 per coin by 2021. $1 million by the end of December 2020 is completely insane if you believe that.

this is exactly the biggest problem with the bitcoin community in my opinion. when someone (sometimes it doesn't even matter who) makes a prediction and is close to what the trends look like, everyone starts praising them and making them into "future tellers".
so obviously there are people who will take advantage of this attitude.

enters John McAfee! as bitcoin price picked up and started its rally last year he increased his statements about bitcoin. stated talking about how it will rise and started predicting it over long term. the only reason why the dates were in far future is because he wanted to buy as much time he could and also it is a safe bet to say bitcoin is rising to a big number over long term!
why? well to make money! and he has been making a ton of money from this silly publicity that we gave him. he has been getting paid to advertise scam ICOs ($105000 per tweet!) he has also been paid to advertise shitcoins and also advertised shitcoins that wanted to be pumped so he could dump them and make a huge profit from that trade.

He will never do that tbh, but it would be funny. Anyway John his reputation is ruined already anyway so who gives.

I prefer the prediction by the XAPO guy. 1 million by 2027.

2020 will probably see the price of 100k, after the next halvening.

This is a lot of money for those entering the market now. More than 10x the current price.

You have to aim for realistic priorities. This lambo meme is for the whales only.

well people still remembered it,
just curious what will he do after he realize it's a little bit crazy to make that statement.
i believe he did that itentionally to increase the demand and awareness from people and spread the world about it.
will he ? nobody knows.
just excited if that thing happens in the future

John McAfee is a bit crazy when it comes to public statements and i am sure he is taking sweat money from projects to endorse those projects and so is the reason you will see him tweet about certain projects and how he thinks about it and so on, he is just manipulating people because of his reputation and literally no one cares about his crazy ideas, everyone knows that the price would increase but you cannot predict the time limit at which the price will increase exactly.

Exactly, we know how eccentric this guy is so I don't think that rational people will have to believed everything that comes out of his mouth. Evident of that is his tweet, or coin of the day. And lately he admitted that he was paid handsomely to tweet most of the coins because they know how he can influence a lot of his crypto followers.

But regarding the OP question, I don't think that he will do it if bitcoin doesn't get to 1 million in 2020. Again, he just burst it during the time when bitcoin was enjoying its peak, so its just another hype stunt and nothing to take seriously.

1 million USD per BTC is a lot of money. And to reach that value in just 9 years doesn't seem very likely to me.
Not that it is not possible, but I believe the chances aren't that big. Double the time span, so 18-20 years and I would agree.
Furthermore who knows how Casares' opinion about Bitcoin's future value is today. Let's remember he is one of the guys who wanted to fork Bitcoin (S2X) and take control over it with all other suits.

For december 2020, so half a year after next halving, I hope of price of $30k to $50k.

December 2020 is more than 2.5 years away, which is a millennium in bitcoin terms. Still, I think it is difficult for Bitcoin to get to seven figures before then. McAfee does seem to be temperamental guy. I wouldn’t be surprised if the price doesn’t get there and he carries out what he said.

I have been quite pessimistic with past BTC predictions in the past, but $1M by 2020 is ridiculous

I'm going to appreciate his counter to the FUDsters and most of us will not appreciate his predictions since he showed on who he is. Accepting paid advertisement for his tweets to shill those ICO's that are looking for a better way to market their sale and even shilled some altcoins. Nobody's perfect and majority here doesn't like him anymore. Well whether bitcoin reach $1,000,000 soon let's wait if he's true to what he is saying.

He is a typical sociopath in my perspective. I know its not related to what he does in the bitcoin space, but there is a documentary of him on youtube where one of his so called girlfriend in Thailand said that he like to do some kinky stuff like eating their feces which turns him on. It is also rumored that he is involved in a murder. Its give an outlook of the kind of person he is. SHADY AF.  

In the meantime in the crypto world he is a hype and fame whore where looks to exploit opportunities to make bucks (Advertising scam ICO). The prediction of bitcoin to reach 1M is just for a media hype to increase the price that's all. His statement of him eating a dick is not gonna happen at all IMO, he is gonna come with some excuse saying its was a prank or something in the end.

McAffee won't eat his dick and that's because he'll probably be dead before then. Otherwise it's chow time. $1m just seems like a lifetime away from where we are now, even if the site you linked may suggest we are only slightly below where we'd need to be in terms of growth since his prediction.

Its a win win situation for him because he is paid for promotion on his twitter anyway.    If he is known to speak on the basis only of being paid to have a certain view I dont know why people would hold his opinion or price objectives as especially accurate.   He is just gaining attention for promotion.

Has he had a great opinion previously on any matter crypto that was especially prescient.


Its not impossible so long as you project also US dollar value falling inversely to this rise.    In Zimbabwe dollars he is already correct for example, in real value no its not going to occur.   Bitcoin is just one of many alternates to dollar

Yes, he is making a lot of money just by simply twitting. But as far his opinion, so be it, we all know that he just joined the bandwagon recently and then became famous with his outrageous predictions but I'm sure he is doing it to attract media attention.

I also doubt that we can see bitcoin going to 7 figures. Will take us years to even reach half a million. He is still hyping crypto too which is a good thing I guess.

I don't think that should even be taken seriously. The old man probably just aims to get more people into investing by making such radical assurances. Well i'm hoping he's right but at this rate, we're nowhere going to be close to that target in 2 years

You dont even have to consider the mans reputation.  Who can blame him for cashing in peoples recognition of his name, thats how the world works unfortunately.   Its easier then thinking or in this case I suggest peoples just do the maths on this.

Dont look at price, look at market capitalisation and revenue.  Alternate streams such as VISA and Mastercard, the main play is in Dollar breaking down as the worlds main reserve currency.  Just like BTC in crypto is the main monetised blockchain but theres alternates.    Theres a reason why people use dollar but also why they would switch to alternatives.

But in any case 1 mill for a coin is pretty much impossible by modern dollar values, if it lost 90% of its value then possibly that would justify it.

I may be very optimistic, but I see a great future for bitcoin. I believe in any positive predictions. But that doesn't give me the right to turn my mind off. I won't keep all the coins all the time. I always have a Fund that I use on the stock exchange for trading. It allows me to meet my needs. I keep only those coins that I won't need for at least a year.

I will advice we should wait till then before thinking of asking him of eating his dick on live television. John has done his own by forecasting the position of thing last year and he has contributed to the development of cryptocurrencies, no doubt he has tried and we just need to commend him for his confidence on bitcoin and believe on blockchain technology.

It seems to me that if he's promoting a certain ICO, that project will get a lot of support from the community because I joined one ICO that he is supporting and when the pre-sale, they reached their hard cap, I used to think that his support is a big factor in the success of the pre-sale tho but  before the ICO's main sale started, they announced that John will no longer support that project and they decided to take different ways. I don't really know what is the real score there but I hope it is not something like this.

Actually as the link shows at this rate of growth we're not that far below where we should be, but that assumes a static rate of growth which is unrealistic.


It's the only scenario in which it could happen, the dollar would have to go through hyper inflation, that might happen but not within the next 2 years.

Ridiculous for now but I'll change my mind if I can see that there's a light close to this prediction. We don't know if he'll do something just to pump and make his prediction correct and this is favorable to us even to those that aren't holding much bitcoin on their wallets.

He's attracting more investors.
More investors = more demand = higher price = $1,000,000.  ;D

Well, I got to admit something, he makes for a great bull:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZkn3nBp5aE

You can't say that his optimism isn't contagious, he gets you pumped and makes you believe $1,000,000 is possible by 2021, but he also predicts $1trillion by the end of this year (I mean $1trillion market obviously). Honestly is not that impossible. $1trillion marketcap could be easily achieved if a couple of whales diversify their portfolios into crypto (and that has to be Bitcoin unless they are insane).

That's honestly a ridiculous amount to ask for just to make a single tweet to endorse a new project

Not even expert reviewers get paid that much to do an indepth analysis

So much for credible rating and reviewing of ICO's

he got paid that much because he was not analyzing nor was he reviewing anything. instead he got paid that much because he was advertising these ICOs.
and because of the attention we started giving him last year he got a lot of views so he also got paid a lot more!