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I know 90% of us here feel very sad watching BTC plummetting from its 20K high to below 7K.

Not to mention alts like ETH and LTC which have lost nearly 70% of its value from December high.
Some other legit alts lost more than 80% already

Some of us try to stay positive and claim we are HODLing for the very long term.
Some of us try to be pragmatic and talk about buying more when BTC reaches $3K or below.

But I know most of us still can't help feeling waves of melancholic emotional emptiess washing through us every time we check coin market cap and see all coins in red dipping by -10%, -15%, -20%

I feel that we need a place to let out our negative energies and feelings. because after all, emotional drainage is the last thing you want in trading.

So let's complain about the market. Share how sad / desperate / unhappy you feel about the current market situation. Make it emotional!


Let me start first --- every time I check the market I feel so negative and unsure. Logically I tell myself I'm happy to see BTC going to below $3K because I could buy more cheap coins. But every time when I see the bearishness of the market I just feel pretty hopeless and not sure when my position could go back to my buying price. My avearge buy was around $11K but I had 40% in alts that have already lost 70%.

I also question myself on why I haven't sold some of my coins when BTC reached $20K

I start to wonder if BTC would take 2 / 3 years to recover or would it take 15 years (like dot com bubble) for BTC to reach $20K again?

I just feel quite hopeless!

Only noobs feel worried, most of us saw the biggest crash ever after MtGox at around 90% crash, so this is just a joke right now.

In any case, what did you all expect? to hit $1,000,000 in one shoot? this takes years. It is a war and TPTB will keep destroying the price, and panic sellers will keep panic selling, creating crashes. It will be a very bumpy road, most will not make it. The supply is limited and the demand for a decentralized digital gold is going to be always there = long term price can only go up no matter what. Use the bear periods to accumulate.

And no, there's no way that it will take 15 years to make an ATH, no more than 1. People will be hating themselves soon when they look back at 5 figure prices.

     I feel that "sad" is a poor choice of words. I want to see bitcoin growth and am not enthusiastic about its decline in price. I think it is important to remember though, that the price is still higher than what it was 6 months ago. Most people who are buying into bitcoin for the long run are not really looking that closely to the month swings. Bitcoin price is still up an exponential amount of what it was just a few years ago. I think it is important to remember this when reflecting upon short-term price swings.

When there is a massive uptrend, always expect that a downtrend follows and that is a most common happening in bitcoin price behaviour since the beginning so why sad? Most of the average bitcoiners are worried but not generally as a whole as most of the bitcoin users and holders are used to this kind of movement.

Yes others loss but still it's not the end of story to them as price decrease also giving us an advantage too.


You didn't sell your coins that time because you want more profit. It's just that your expectations take you into a desire of getting more and more profits. That's why if already on profit and the trend is uptrend, don't hesitate to sold your coins even if the price goes higher the next day.

And obviously, who knows what will happened?

Regrets are part of the game but don't take that wrong decision to wreck your future strategy. Stand at your feet and continue to play the risky game of getting profits at crypto.

I don't think we should loose hope as better days are still ahead. Bitcoin has done very well in 2017 and it has set a very high standard that we are now trying to recover to. $20,000 is now being seeing unachievable and do believe that that price will be the beginning of Bitcoin upward movement as we are just a little back to the next bullish trend. The bottom is here and I think big buyers will soon enter into the market.

I have enough time to recover. but enough time is not more then 5 years.
2020 will be very important for all crypto supporters

I don't see any point in crying. In December, bitcoin showed us all what it can be. It seems to me that now we need to forget about easy money and create conditions for the use of bitcoin as a currency. If we wait for the government to legalize bitcoin, it will be a guaranteed defeat. It is necessary to build a cryptocurrency economy and then $ 20,000 will be only the starting point.

I'm neither sad nor elated about where bitcoin currently is.  My frame of reference includes time frames where it traded under $200, so being above $6000 is still mighty fine IMO.  And I'm not even an OG in the crypto space.  I'm a relative newcomer.

There are people here who bought in at the top, just as there are in all bull markets.  Those people are the ones who should be glued to the wailing wall.  For everybody else who's been involved with crypto for more than 2 years this should not be surprising, nor a cause for regret, crying, or anything else.  It should be pretty much business as usual.

People expected too much out of Bitcoin, and that is why they are disappointed now. I guess that most of them didn't even fully understood what Bitcoin is and how its working. But I can sympathize, because I have made some bad choices myself.
There is nothing we can do now, past is a past and people should not dwell in it. Learn what you can from it and move on. Clear your head from worthless emotions and keep focused on problems ahead. After all, in business there is no place for emotions.

OK, lets cry.
I lost more than half of my money, and I am still losing, I don't know how far this will take us?
Anyway as I am young, I have less income but huge need for money, I am not in a situation to lose half+ of my money, I really can't wait for 15 years or so, but I can't do anything else right? I lost, I lost, that's all, I have only one choice, "hold hold hold and be optimist".
I just hope it won't take 15 years and we will be able to see 20K again.  :'(

You should be prepared for your investment to drop to $0. It sounds cliche, but if you aren't prepared for that, you aren't cut out for investing in risky new assets like cryptocurrency. You can always be safe and buy bonds or other boring stuff like that. :P


Be glad that you are alive in Bitcoin's early days. You'll be fine. Just don't expect such a quick return and take care of your living expenses elsewhere (like a job). People who want to get rich quick are usually punished in the markets.


Probably not, but like I said, be prepared for the worst. :)

 :o :o :o

I read your thread and thought you were dealing well with the situation, but you're already in despair.

I'll give you the following advice, focus on more investments, focus on more things in real life, one of the big problems that many people have is that they are focused only on bitcoin and this creates anxiety and high expectations, but if you buy bitcoin and hold for many years and you have other investments both in the internet and in real life you will not be worried about the price.

We didn’t expect bitcoin to hit $20k last year and the price right now is still high, its just so happen that many people buy bitcoin on that level but crying can give you nothing. This is a big correction I’ve ever since but I’m still not worried about my future since I know bitcoin can bounce high again.

I'm betting that the people who bought bitcoin at a higher price than is right now are shedding tears because they see that they're losing their money as the price get's lower and lower. For those who rode on the hype just last December or bought during a bull, they must be bawling tears by now especially if they think that the price will remain at this level.

There's really no need to complain about the market and continue to feel sad and hopeless as it won't help you nor make the price go up. Wait for another bull trend then sell to recover your investment.

I'm a fucking sadist and here's how I'm going to stick to you for making such a useless thread:
If you're at a loss, it's your stupidity that has lead to it, cause a trader makes a profit even when he is in a loss. If you're bitching about it, then you most certainly are not a dignified trader.
And don't you dare blame the markets for your own actions, they didn't force you, you voluntarily went in. Go cry somewhere else. Even I am not at a profit level but I wasn't stupid enough to buy at 20k level nor am I bitching about it. Rather I'm laying out my own strategies.
And did you just receive fucking 7 merits for this apparent sob story?

Yes we all know the logic story. It's all good and sound. Please read my original post carefully.

Im creating this thread / space hoping it could help some people let out their emotional negativites, if any

If you don't have any feelings, that's fine. Not everyone is on the same curve

Feeling emotional pain and discussing about it could be part of a learning process for some, if not for you.

Do you know a Korean student committed suicide because he lost money on crypto?

https://zycrypto.com/20-year-old-korean-student-commits-suicide-losing-money-bitcoin-trading/ (https://zycrypto.com/20-year-old-korean-student-commits-suicide-losing-money-bitcoin-trading/)

Of course i'm sure you would dismiss his death as his own f***ing stupidity. But I don't agree with you.

I hope we create an environment here where we support all sorts of different people - we could only progress and mature fast as a community by facilitating a positive constructive and supportive environment where crying / feeling sad together (for those who want to ) sometimes is OK.

Yes indeed.
real life is keeping me quite busy etc but these few days I just keep asking myself what I could hae done better in the last few months - and the answer is - a lot!
it's a mixed feeling of guilt and uncertainty etc.

Imagine BTC going to 3K (whcih is possible).
All those people who bought at 8K or now would still lose more than 50%
it's quite scary to think about isn't it.

The guy from this other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3264678.0) is much more despaired than you.

For me, I'm fine with the possible opportunity to buy very cheap, even if it is below the last time I bought.

I think before we buy and hold crypto currency, we already know that the price of crypto currency are always fluctuate and we know about the risk to invest on crypto but if you always feel sad or cry when every time the price decrease, you should not come into crypto world.

I might be part of that supposed 10% because I keep yawning as I watch other people cry.


Yes I remember back in December when this forum was flooded with posts on how fast bitcoin was going to reach that figure, or similar ones, and how everybody was going to be rich and happy.


The problem is, the masses invest just like that: they but an asset when they hear from the news that it has skyrocketed and sell out of panic when the first dip comes. Just the opposite of what a wise investor should do: when it goes up very fast, sell at least partially and buy when the everybody is panicking. Or even better: buy and hold. Do your research before buying an asset for long term. Follow basic investing principles, like some diversification or investing only money you can afford to lose, and you won’t worry in bear markets.

not only sad, but confused, what should we do with this situation, holding back may be better, but until when the price is still not rising, we all hope the price can go back up, but whether it can be realized quickly

Depends on how much you've already chipped in.
Indeed I agree with you beside a bit sad it's also the uncertainty and confusion.

I also don't think price could go back up quickly and sustainably without a proper accumulation period.

i am already crying on my own since januari. thanks for the offer though
i think we will be crying for a long time. 2018 is going to be a bad year.

I really dont understand all of you guys. Does it help you if you are sad and unhappy? Does the price of bitcoin change if you cry? There is no point in being sad and nervous and other emotions because it really doesn't help you in absolutely any way. Yes, the market is very low and we all have investments in cryptocurrencies but we have to stay strong and wait for the market to become green because we all know that is possible and it is going to happen pretty soon. Stop being sad and crying about how much the price went down because you are making this situation worse. If you belive in bitcoin than you should have no doubt it is going to come back stronger than before and break all the records

ok im positive. in may next bull run. hell yeah !!!!!

If I had only invested in bitcoin, I would not be so sad about the crash because many altcoins lose more than %80-90 of their value, but bitcoin iis pretty good compared to altcoins.

LOL, this is always SUCH a nonsense. I mean sure in hindsight it's easy to see when you should have bought and should have sold. But bitcoin prices have ALWAYS gone up very fast, did you sell when it hit $2000 for the first time? $5000? And when are the prices "very low"? Most idiots here will say that the $6500 it's at now is very low. I say it's still very high and that we'll see <$2000 this year. And if that happens, which I think it will, then this $6500 in hindsight wasn't exactly 'very low'. So these oneliners you post are really nonsense.

Was going to comment but funnily enough, someone else here is also yawning. Tears are free. They were joyful when everything was climbing beyond expectations. Why should we cry more when crypto actually has not dropped beyond expectations? I know I expected this dip for a long time. Strange if no one else was going to expect the same.

But masses act as they always do. We need them however.

At least the OP is honest.

There are others who are so desperate that they are in a complete denial of the situation, and write titles like "this correction is NORMAL", "bitcoin going UP", "we BULLISH, WHALES news", without any explanation, resorting to superstition - if you say it is going up several times, then its going up. This is a invitation for sadists to prey on their desperation. And the more they post these kind of threads, the more the price go down.

Hahaha exactly this indeed. Man how many times did we read in the days around christmas that it was NORMAL that bitcoin dropped, because people needed money to buy christmas presents? LOL And now those same people say that others who bought around christmas levels were STUPID for doing so, because 'everybody knew those prices were too high'.

 :'(

just kidding :D.

Mate look, these people who'll apparently share their feelings are nothing but made up bullshit. I'm trying to help you avoid nonsense. They will just spam to earn a few bucks.
Also discussing someone's pain on a forum won't help them much, rather they should go for therapy. It sounds ridiculous but if you're really that emotional then you better go.
Anyone who commits suicide is fucking stupid. Cause you only live once. Enjoy whatever you can. Sure people will forgive you after sometime.
Any investor if he gets a loss shouldn't sob about it. He should learn from his mistakes. And people won't listen to you or me. They'd learn the hard way because they are just fucking stubborn. I don't mean to hurt you or something but it's the truth.

Not at all! Why are you paying attention to rumors about the permanent downfall of bitcoin? Though there is stressful atmosphere in the crypto market but that does not mean you lose all hopes and start weeping. Crying is not going to do any good to you. What can save you from all this is patience and firm belief in god that he is not going to do anything wrong with you. Keep in mind nothing is going to stay forever.

I don't see any reason to cry at all. When the price of bitcoin grew I heard a lot of cheers that we will wait until 2020. Many people said that they would save their bitcoins for 10 years or more. Why now cry. Bitcoin is rising in price every year so be patient and wait for the fall. Bitcoin always rewards its loyal users.

;D What a thread! Funny though!! The thing you guys should understand is that Rome was not built in a day, and the fact that you heard some people who have held their coins over the years have made a lot does not make a newbie to just think they can easily just come within a year and expect the bitcoin price to just skyrocket all of a sudden.

Maybe you should know by now that it took about seven years plus to even get to this stage. Plummeting is not the end of the world; it is just the beginning of better movements ahead.

I like it when I see newbies thinking like this, unless you are of course just a newbie on this forum and you have been investing for a long time, as it seems you are talking like an experienced investor. The truth is that downtrends are normal in any market, and rather than feeling sad for the market being down, what anyone should be feeling sad about now is not having money in fiat to buy more at this dip and accumulate for the future.

Noobs don't think like that. Bitcoin for them is doing well during price increases, and preferably after them having entered the market. It's pure hypocrisy and stupidity ruling this community and the market as well.

No wonder people here only end up with less coins overall, while smart investors hodl and and trade their way up, making use of the volatility we quite often experience. I wish I had free capital left to buy with right now.

It's a great moment to enter the market, but some people just don't want to realize that, or they are too stupid to do so. I think both factors play an important role here. Soon people will blame themselves for not having bought

We don't need to cry things out, as it is not yet the end of bitcoin world, everyday is not a payday, let us just think that we are doing a job and we are just waiting for the right day to claim our payday so no need to cry things out there, don't be in a hurry we will all gonna celebrate again tomorrow.

False hopelessness is more dangerous and detrimental than false hope. When you feel negative, you will be just sitting and crying over there. When you are feeling positive, you will be more inclined to act consciously, not like in panic selling when you don't understand what you are doing. There were plenty of opportunities to make up for the losses since December, and this is what people who think positive must have already done numerous times. Now they are earning profits.

So you are mad because of all this people? we all knew that this kind of downtrend was more than needed after all.

I am not even worried by a little of what is happening to cryptos nowadays, most people thinks that it is the end because of a little crash.

Just stop with this surrounding, we all know what is really happening in here

I can’t imagine me crying with all the positive mindset that I keep on repeating for myself to a point I can’t feel no emotions.. I can feel your sadness,, I have felt it before and that’s not normally good,, but this isn’t the end and I have learnt a lot from experienced that crying won’t make you feel better.. It would only worsen to question your self esteem and confidence..

This is just a friendly advice: Keep the flame burning..
 There is always HOPE to those who HODL..

Firstly what you have said is not relevant at all to what I was saying. Secondly, if you believe that whatever those people said to be true for even a slightest second,then you're more stupid than they are. People lie all the time. The moment they feel that the prices are going down, they fuck up and sell everything they have.

Just read some clips or news of those who'd been millionaires here in bitcoin from risking and holding it for long, not just 1 or 2years or even they already forget they have such investments. It takes time , so don't cry everyone. We just need to wait.

Why should be sad and crying, the decline that occurs in bitcoin is something reasonable for all cryptoccurency, because bitcoin and all the virtual currencies are created to fluctuate or its value will not be stable forever.
If you are sad to see the current situation, you better leave the crypto world, because when we dare enter the world of crypto then automatically we have to dare to take risks.

I feel sad and kind of worried every time I check my portfolio because of the huge drop of prices from December till now but I still remain hopeful though. I think it is normal for you to get worried when you see the amount you’ve invested turned half of its original price but I can’t stay negative all the time and always look at the brighter side of this correction. In fact, I just deleted the application on my phone so I would not be able to get tempted to watch everyday my portfolio.

to be honest at this time the assets that I have reduced very much when the assets I have that I use to survive with my wife, with the decline in the price of bitcoin to make assets I have reduced more than 50% and all I can do now can only be patient and try to keep the cost of living to a minimum while waiting for the price to go up again.

I actually feel happy after selling most of my crypto portfolio last December ;D, I'm just waiting patiently for the next bull run. currently doing some short trades. next time put some stop loss/risk management.

If your a newbie in bitcoin that made a little digging to the worst crash history of it You will actually have a response and thinking that it has gone through a lot of hell and hardship tons of people already lost the percentage of their main capital investment but firmly holding and believing into the coin, we may talking about big number in the present cause it made into thousands of dollars you have no clue how many whales in the past sold their stashes of bitcoin when it is crashing badly down to 90% price is still in the bracket of hundred dollars inspite of those situations it manages to stay 6K plus.

Yes that’s all true.. Those who believe and invest in bitcoin at early days have experienced and profit 1000% times or more than in stock market.. They can’t deny it and most members remembered the story of the pizza man with a 1000BTC.. Stories that remind us to wait and hodl,, a story of each one of us and maybe a reality that will happen to you soon..

Found a place to trust and profit,, it’s cryptocurrency and that is BITCOIN..

People rarely make the same mistake twice, it is typically thrice and many more times. It is somehow assumed that people are able to learn from their mistakes. What the heck, it is even assumed that they should learn from the mistakes of others. But it is hardly so with either of these assumptions, at least not in trading. Most people will make the same mistake all over again until they understand and accept that they can't get the hang of the thing and go away or until they lose all and then go away as well.

In as much as this sounds funny to me I still feel quite intrigue how some people still feel hopeless when i see hope. When there are so many reds in the coinmarketcap website or any of it alternative. It shouldn't be a period of time you regret or go into depression for investing in cryptocurrency, it should be seen as an open opportunity that enable you purchase your favorite coins in a very low price.

Crying is fine just don't do something that we will gonna regret in the future, yes we are all sad about the current price of bitcoin but it is fine, it is much more better compare to the huge dumps during past years, for sure it will gonna recover again soon so don't cry and take the dump as a positive side.

The saddest part for me right now is that I am seeing people who chooses to be negative and to be sad when they cannot get what they want, and that is to have a great price of bitcoin and altcoin, we must still be thankful that we are part of this great opportunity.

Come on dude. Such a emotional attitude is not healthy to you when you deal with crypto or any other business. You first need to be so confident before investing into any business, it can be either crypto or any other business. You must be aware that pumps and dumps are common with crypto currencies  and this is how it was designed. As long as bitcoins are in circulation, the value would grow and wise versa. Being so exited when bitcoin is in its peak value and just getting wo wired when the value is too low is not healthy to you as an individual and investor. Develop stable attitude towards business.

I don't have any said and crying, because my own BTC and ETH sold out soon. Now i do some job to collect more crypto currency only, and i don't care about them at least 3-4 months more, maybe i have optimistic about market, but i believe at end of 2018, their value will increasing.

As for me, there's nothing there to whine or cry about. You should have been prepared for this before going into it cryptocurrency investment. Its not a get rich quick scheme. if it was probably everyone whom invested in it would have all become rich. It needs patience and dedication. And also a lot of people needs to examine there depression level cause i have seen post where some people draw into depression cause of the price reduction.

1 sMerit coming your way - Couldn’t have put it any better myself.

I’m calm & relaxed, my stash will make me a rich man after the next halving if not before.
I presume many others here share this feeling?

We did have a long correction in 2015 causing more than 60 to 80 percent loss in values. But just see the data, the hike right after this correction went to the moon spiking more than 300 percent. Common to see pumps and dumps and this is how its set to be. More demand increases the values. Gt.Gox's move really disappointed the crypto community. Today we have a news on him that he expressed his opinion as " I am no longer a bitcoin believer". How can he express like this after gaining everything needed from bitcoin? The link below for you to refer.

http://fortune.com/2018/04/06/mt-gox-bitcoin-exchange-ceo-mark-karpeles/

Honestly, I am happy with the thread you created this, man! in fact the conclusion is, you look like impatient and keep trying to understand something out loud, so you are as confused as now. calm down! everything needs to be process and not instant like what we want, all have its way, already on track. I just clarify your statement, that bitcoin price will reach 2/3 years to return to $ 20,000. it looks like a bullshit, man! in my opinion, it looks so long, I keep seeing the price on the chart and keep monitoring it. according to my analysis, it's a very long time to make a new ATH. predicted that I have, we will see the price at its peak again, but it will not be like last year, by the end of this year we will reach the price in the range of $ 17,000 - $ 18,500 it looks very beautiful, rather than nothing.

I want to cry with you but I will not :P
I know that successful people never cry whatever the case may be, they only focus on how to make the current situation in their favor.
There is nothing like easy mony, so don't waste your time in weaping and think about a new strategy better than holding.

We don't have to cry guys it is not yet the end of our battle here, so why we should cry, we  should cry because this thing was made to change our life, but not because of the current price, we feel sad with the current price but not depressed because of it, I don't also worry much.

Why is everyone crying? I don't see why not. The price of bitcoin did not decrease instantly. I should have sold it before now so I wouldn't cry. I trade stock. This allows me to earn extra coins. Because of the lower prices, my income in dollars is reduced, but that is no reason for crying. Crying only those who did nothing and had income from rising prices.

Perhaps these people have long been oriented and minimize their losses. And in reality only those morons can cry that saw huge prices for Bitcoin about 20,000 dollars and immediately rushed to invest in this coin, selling their property for starting capital and investments.

I don't cry just because the value decreases not unless it is a member in the family. To feel sad is a normal reaction when things go bad but doesn't mean I should cry everytime bad situation happens to me. This is the flow of life that no matter how happy a person is there is always a twin effect and that's sadness. So,even if bitcoin has lower value in the market today or even in the next days,I should not cry instead,I just stand firmly and strongly so that everything will be fine.

Keep the faith besides it was just a few months, believe that still who choose to hold will earn just make sure that we hold those coins that have a future. Maybe those who are in top 20 of coinmarketcap or better in top10.

Sorry but only newcomers, inexperienced, less knowledgeable, and weak minds will probably have the feelings that you're feeling right now. There's always a time of crash of cryptocurrencies and it's natural if we only know the history of bitcoin and how well bitcoin responds on it too.

It is easy to wallow in the sadness when you're new here - I would suggest you look at this diagram

https://cdn.howmuch.net/articles/bitcoin-horrific-crashes-865c.png

Notice a trend here? just hold on - the newer generations have lost the ability to exercise patience. They want that 2 week 1000x lol

It's good that it has been posted here for others to be aware of its trend. I always believe that this forum is the best venue to share sentiments, stories of success and failures, and comfort one another to trying to uplift and motivate, not only in times of success but also in sadness. Let's keep in touch and help each other specially in the crisis we are facing.

The best thing you can do at present is to stay away from those who are spreading false news about bitcoin or the crypto market itself. This is awfully childish to believe that this minor crash in the prices of crypto currency is going to put this amazing technology to an end. We are all supporting it and with the millions of investors from all over the world, how could this market come to an end this soon?

Well i can stay with these negative guys all day. It's basically rubbish and if you'vr been in crypto for years, you'll know that these fuds are based on really shaky facts. What's happening right is nowhere close to be crying about lol

It seems to me that She is the only help that can be created to each other by users of crypto-currencies, this is an immediate investment in Bitcoin. It is necessary to provoke a rise in the price for Bitcoin with a buzz around purchases. Thus raising the demand for Bitcoin in the market.

I suppose those guys who were the blind enthusiasts that believed - Bitcoin would never fall - are very much confused now. Cheer up, its price will go up, but wait a bit!