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Title: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: MoneroClassicDev on April 06, 2018, 01:05:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/hYhvA4j.png

The main message of Monero classic is that we believe that the developers changing the proof of work creates more centralisation and harms decentralisation.

So understandably people have looked at the situation in Bitcoin where one mining equipment manufacturer caused a lot of chaos on the bitcoin network. Bitmain has been accused of selectively selling their mining equipment to people on condition that they follow the wishes of bitmain. Also bitmain was accused of blocking protocol improvements on the bitcoin network.

Understandably when bitmain announced they have new mining equipment for monero, many people were upset and afraid that bitmain would end up causing chaos and controlling the Minero network. So the developers decided they would change the proof of work every six months in order to prevent ASIC manufacturers from making miners on monero. However this just creates an alternative and more harmful form of centralisation. The Minero developers are saying that they can and will change the consensus rules whenever it suits them and the community seems to be conditioned into following the wishes of the developers.

However with mining there is always competition. we can see this in action because the first people to announce ASIC miners for Monero, was the company Baikal. Then within days Bitmain, and now Halong Mining. So already there are three separate mining equipment manufacturers for this coin. That’s how the consensus mechanism is supposed to work. There is economic incentive to remain honest and follow the most profitable strategy. This is why there are now three separate mining equipment manufacturers for Monero. But instead the developers have a cut short the incentive mechanism by declaring unilateral control over Monero.

Around 80% of the current Monero hash rate agrees with our stance and refuses to follow the POW change. That is why we declare in advance that we will maintain the original software which follows the original rules. We reject centralised developer Control and we believe that’s voluntary participation for both users and miners Will uphold the principles of decentralisation.

Github: https://github.com/moneroclassic (https://github.com/moneroclassic)
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MoneroClassic/ (https://twitter.com/MoneroClassic/)
Telegram chat: https://t.me/moneroclassic (https://t.me/moneroclassic)


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: big_daddy on April 06, 2018, 01:24:59 PM
ok, so, what algo is XMC - MoneroClassic?

POW? miner & pools available?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: iPool.pw on April 06, 2018, 01:26:50 PM
Reserved for iPool.pw


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Admkng5 on April 06, 2018, 01:27:31 PM
Now no pool.


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: BitPotus on April 06, 2018, 01:29:13 PM
Isn't Monero Classic sponsored by Bitmain?



Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: StelioKontos on April 06, 2018, 02:10:49 PM
Understandably when bitmain announced they have new mining equipment for monero, many people were upset and afraid that bitmain would end up causing chaos and controlling the Minero network. So the developers decided they would change the proof of work every six months in order to prevent ASIC manufacturers from making miners on monero. However this just creates an alternative and more harmful form of centralisation. The Minero developers are saying that they can and will change the consensus rules whenever it suits them and the community seems to be conditioned into following the wishes of the developers.

Minero?  ???


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Admkng5 on April 06, 2018, 02:33:28 PM
Are there any pool for this coin?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: pete 211 on April 06, 2018, 03:16:26 PM
so what blockhain is legit?

i have seen several groups of XMC

https://i.imgur.com/hYhvA4j.png

The main message of Monero classic is that we believe that the developers changing the proof of work creates more centralisation and harms decentralisation.

So understandably people have looked at the situation in Bitcoin where one mining equipment manufacturer caused a lot of chaos on the bitcoin network. Bitmain has been accused of selectively selling their mining equipment to people on condition that they follow the wishes of bitmain. Also bitmain was accused of blocking protocol improvements on the bitcoin network.

Understandably when bitmain announced they have new mining equipment for monero, many people were upset and afraid that bitmain would end up causing chaos and controlling the Minero network. So the developers decided they would change the proof of work every six months in order to prevent ASIC manufacturers from making miners on monero. However this just creates an alternative and more harmful form of centralisation. The Minero developers are saying that they can and will change the consensus rules whenever it suits them and the community seems to be conditioned into following the wishes of the developers.

However with mining there is always competition. we can see this in action because the first people to announce ASIC miners for Monero, was the company Baikal. Then within days Bitmain, and now Halong Mining. So already there are three separate mining equipment manufacturers for this coin. That’s how the consensus mechanism is supposed to work. There is economic incentive to remain honest and follow the most profitable strategy. This is why there are now three separate mining equipment manufacturers for Monero. But instead the developers have a cut short the incentive mechanism by declaring unilateral control over Monero.

Around 80% of the current Monero hash rate agrees with our stance and refuses to follow the POW change. That is why we declare in advance that we will maintain the original software which follows the original rules. We reject centralised developer Control and we believe that’s voluntary participation for both users and miners Will uphold the principles of decentralisation.

Github: https://github.com/moneroclassic (https://github.com/moneroclassic)
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MoneroClassic/ (https://twitter.com/MoneroClassic/)
Telegram chat: https://t.me/moneroclassic (https://t.me/moneroclassic)



Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Psychobitch on April 06, 2018, 03:41:35 PM
Can we call it MoneroCash instead ? Or MCash  ::)


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: hollycrypto on April 06, 2018, 09:25:19 PM
any airdrop ?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: B.A.S. on April 06, 2018, 09:27:11 PM
You can be as successful as the Ethereum classic. It's hard not to expect higher performance.


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: NitroAcid on April 06, 2018, 09:37:09 PM
need more information , now is nothing


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: exciter.0 on April 06, 2018, 10:19:10 PM
Around 80% of the current Monero hash rate agrees with our stance and refuses to follow the POW change.

So now 100% of that 80% of ASIC are mining this chain? Awesome, go Minero!


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: okane818 on April 07, 2018, 01:18:18 AM
Monero Original pool is on Minergate.

Good luck


Best regards


Okane Satoshi


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Ramon1 on April 07, 2018, 03:20:30 AM
Isn't Monero Classic sponsored by Bitmain?



It's pretty obvious it is, just like Psychobitch suggest, they should just go ahead and call it Monero Cash.



Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: LTCMAXMYR on April 07, 2018, 03:26:09 AM
so another ASIC shit?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: dlezama on April 07, 2018, 05:33:08 PM
Antpool had for a few days "Monero", now it has "XMC", so it seems to be one pool for this. A very smelly one :)

Edit: Apparently there are two "Monero Classic", both using XMC symbol, the one in Antpool seems to be the other one. In total at least 5 vultures projects seem to have emerged. See for example here https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/monero-just-hard-forked-and-it-resulted-four-new-projects/ (https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/monero-just-hard-forked-and-it-resulted-four-new-projects/)


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: lunobird on April 07, 2018, 06:24:34 PM
Yes Please change the name to MoneroCash and buildup using that branding lineup.  Using classic just makes things more confusing and weakens the overall branding of bitmain Asic pow.

Sometimes I like joining the darkside and like to roll with Jihan and Roger Ver :)

Thats a very ugly looking photoshop job for that coin.  Seriously needs to total make over,  Pay a graphic design a couple of hundred to make a better image.  When i see something that looks this sloppy the first thing comes to mind is dump this pos


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: JCryptoTrader on April 07, 2018, 08:38:31 PM
good luck with the project guys!  The best privacy coin will be one with anonymous devs, it simply has to be.  Protect yourselves and godspeed!


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Namiks on April 08, 2018, 04:25:56 PM
I support the idea of forking and creating the coin in your own vision; that's crypto at its best.

But claiming 80% of the network was against it... Just how much of that hash was ASIC hardware in comparison to GPU/CPU hardware?

Doesn't sound particularly fair either way, really. But I support the fork removing ASIC hardware more, based on my own preferences.


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: o3u on April 08, 2018, 07:00:21 PM
ASICs, difficult to update CPU botnets, etc. accounts for that 80%.

Maybe we can tell what that 80% was once a JS miner for the new monero algo is public


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: SKRAAA on April 08, 2018, 08:59:19 PM
Good start @MoneroClassicDev with your self-moderated topic  ::)
Official Monero XMR ANN is not self-moderated. That factor alone is enough for me to support the new ASIC-resistant chain.


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Cryptoindia92 on April 10, 2018, 07:29:17 AM
Airdrop available ?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: annapotpot on April 10, 2018, 05:41:32 PM
Pool soon: https://xmc.leafpool.com/


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: rubine2323 on April 11, 2018, 12:20:44 AM
Why not named it Bitmaincoin or Asiccoin sounds better and more related.


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Captmario on April 11, 2018, 05:49:54 AM
HAHA!! 80% of the hash agree with you? What a joke really. because 80% of the hashrate were ASICs and Botnets and hence they have no other choice now. Talk about centralisation really.. When a few of your ASICs were controlling 80% of the network.

Good luck with your shitcoin.


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: jujubax on April 11, 2018, 06:01:12 AM
need more information , now that is nothing about that coin.  :-\ :-\


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: etin06 on April 11, 2018, 06:05:10 AM
80% of the fork we have witnessed since 2017 has turned out to be missed a place priority. What do you think will make the project better than the original Monero it's self?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: jlqueen on April 11, 2018, 06:07:55 AM
Any bounty programs? i like the idea of that platform


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: tf2addict on April 11, 2018, 12:49:59 PM
Of course 80% of the network was against it, that's all the ASICs.

I'd rather have centralized dev than centralized mining.


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Coindgr on April 11, 2018, 12:57:38 PM

If one wants to claim their XMC coins without losing XMR in the process, where is detailed instructions?

And what about privacy, what do we all lose in claiming these coins?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: jujubax on April 15, 2018, 05:18:13 PM
I support the idea of forking and creating the coin in your own vision; that's crypto at its best.

But claiming 80% of the network was against it... Just how much of that hash was ASIC hardware in comparison to GPU/CPU hardware?

Doesn't sound particularly fair either way, really. But I support the fork removing ASIC hardware more, based on my own preferences.


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: wolverine5pl on April 18, 2018, 05:36:27 PM
When can we expect wallets? How to mine? When it will be ready?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Emilytran on April 19, 2018, 02:25:08 AM
Hi Devs, I was interested in the project, I would like to know if you have the bounty program. Thank you


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Eulalila on April 19, 2018, 03:39:35 AM
I think this type of project is the good one, the dev team working hard in the background to deliver what it was promised. I'll keep an eye on this one.
merculet


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: gweigster on April 20, 2018, 10:36:14 PM
hey guys, sorry if this question was asked before. I stored my XMR in the mymonero webwallet at the time of the fork. Can I claim Monero Classic now?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Haakan on April 21, 2018, 01:35:50 AM
I support the idea of forking and creating the coin in your own vision; that's crypto at its best.

But claiming 80% of the network was against it... Just how much of that hash was ASIC hardware in comparison to GPU/CPU hardware?

Doesn't sound particularly fair either way, really. But I support the fork removing ASIC hardware more, based on my own preferences.

From https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/8005/why-is-the-monero-hash-rate-so-low-after-the-v7-fork-compared-to-other-monero-fo

"ASICs are hardware made to run one particular piece of code fast, and nothing else. ASICs were made to mine Cryptonight, and were able to do it much faster than CPUs and GPUs, leaving normal users out in the cold. When Monero forked, these ASICs were left unable to mine Monero, causing the overall network hash rate to plummet, restoring viability to everyone else."

Yea. I don't support the forks..but the xmr miners are giving me lower hashrate so I might have to switch to XMC to keep using Claymore 9.7


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: chitox on April 25, 2018, 01:30:51 AM
how can i claim Monero Classic (XMC) ?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: ingo49 on April 25, 2018, 10:41:12 AM
This is such a scam fork, there is no need to even explain it.
Riding the hype of the real Monero fork = MoneroV.

At least they have support from 7 exchanges, 5 pools, and actual plans of development.

MoneroV is the only notable coin and you guys would not exist if they hadn't came out.


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Albert_Jr on April 26, 2018, 02:35:53 PM
how can i claim Monero Classic (XMC) ?

Actually, it's the same coin as XMO, here's the instruction:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8cxv99/how_to_claim_monero_original_xmo/

This is such a scam fork, there is no need to even explain it.
Riding the hype of the real Monero fork = MoneroV.

At least they have support from 7 exchanges, 5 pools, and actual plans of development.

MoneroV is the only notable coin and you guys would not exist if they hadn't came out.

Why XMV is so notable? Cuz they've increased and capped the XMV max supply to provide you with your free x10 airdrop? :)

Or you know something about their ways of mitigating botnet-mining?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Mrpumperitis on April 26, 2018, 09:01:40 PM
Hi, i assume im at the right place...
im looking for the fork that is the same as og xmr , and still allows asics.

What exchanges are you listed on?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: GlobalProtection on April 26, 2018, 11:56:10 PM
If our Monero is on the Monero core wallet, we can access the forked coins. There are about two forks I missed and another fork is coming. Can anyone give any tips on how to obtain the forked coins?  Any video training on this would be appreciated if you can find it.

Thanks


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: AloisLIEN on April 27, 2018, 11:19:14 AM
Hi everyone!

Somebody mines this XMC with Antminer X3? If yes, which pool do you use please?

Antpool started to operate for me this very morning, after changing payment method into PPS (i was mining for more than 2 days -_-). I tried on Nicehash (with Cryptonight settings), but nothing happened :(

Thanks in advance for your advice.


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: gweigster on April 28, 2018, 08:23:35 AM
how can i claim Monero Classic (XMC) ?

Actually, it's the same coin as XMO, here's the instruction:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8cxv99/how_to_claim_monero_original_xmo/

Can anyone confirm this? I don't want to lose my coins and I am not sure if I trust the source


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: ttookk on May 01, 2018, 11:19:37 PM
Has anyone had any luck with building the wallet from the github provided by the website? I tried Ubuntu 17.04, 16.04, Manjaro (an Arch based Linux), Windows, no luck.

Or are there builds I could've used?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: AloisLIEN on May 03, 2018, 06:40:53 AM
Has anyone had any luck with building the wallet from the github provided by the website? I tried Ubuntu 17.04, 16.04, Manjaro (an Arch based Linux), Windows, no luck.

Or are there builds I could've used?


You can get an adress wallet for XMC on gate.io. You still cannot add it in the Antpool settings, but Bitmain confirmed this problem will be fixed before 5th May ... We will see :/


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: ttookk on May 04, 2018, 08:21:52 PM
Has anyone had any luck with building the wallet from the github provided by the website? I tried Ubuntu 17.04, 16.04, Manjaro (an Arch based Linux), Windows, no luck.

Or are there builds I could've used?


You can get an adress wallet for XMC on gate.io. You still cannot add it in the Antpool settings, but Bitmain confirmed this problem will be fixed before 5th May ... We will see :/

I meant mainly to access forked coins.


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: muugg on May 07, 2018, 01:49:43 PM
Trying to sync with gui from github. Syncing is halted on block 1558879, cant get higher. 8 connections out, 38 in. What to do?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: ANDREW 555 on May 08, 2018, 08:16:37 PM
Listing on BitAsiaEx (May)
https://coindar.org/en/event/monero-classic-xmc-listing-on-bitasiaex-8853


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Leeminhe on May 09, 2018, 03:01:51 AM
projects with coin sales are very interesting development, coin prices and total supply of coins is not excessive so it is very interesting if you have a coin from this project, where the exchange of this coin?
egretia


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: kashish948 on May 09, 2018, 11:54:21 AM
is there any remote node?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: parentibule on May 14, 2018, 07:24:33 PM
Hi, is there a way to get XMO and XMC if I move my XMR to another address I own? There was no snapshot?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: Jon_Bones on June 12, 2018, 10:41:19 AM
hello, i want withdraw XMC from antpool to gate.io but gate.io have't paiment ID. anybody knows how to withdraw without paimant ID ?


Title: Re: [XMC] Monero Classic: The Original Monero decentralised anonymous cryptocurrency
Post by: HashBro on September 19, 2020, 05:57:14 PM
Monero Classic available on:

Mining-Dutch Pools

website:
https://www.mining-dutch.nl/

Payout:
Proportional/pay per share in any currency every 15 minutes.

Mining modes:
We offer the following modes that are all completely isolated from each other.
1. Multiport (can be Solo / Party )
2. Normal Pooled + Custom sets
3. Solo + Custom sets
4. Party + Custom sets

Peers list:
addnode=193.112.64.213:18080
addnode=203.195.224.183:18080
addnode=118.24.77.45:18080
addnode=118.25.87.10:18080
addnode=120.25.155.57:18080
addnode=51.15.242.179:18080
addnode=5.9.5.150:18080
addnode=123.206.77.55:18080

https://i.imgur.com/BhFfhhh.png