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Title: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on April 09, 2018, 05:53:45 AM
Over the past 2 years, Ver has proven himself to be one of the greediest figures in all of cryptocurrency. Not only did he hijack bitcoin.com to promote BCH, he's been on a relentless crusade to spread misinformation about BTC since the fork, using his "celebrity" to convince others that BCH is actually BTC. This has led to massive amounts of confusion among the public and the media, harming both coins, and now that BCH is falling to the wayside he's simply ramping up his attacks on BTC.

"Since Bitcoin Core is no longer usable as a currency, we should no longer consider it to be a crypto currency." - Dec 13 2017

"Bitcoin Cash is everything that Bitcoin was supposed to be, before it was taken over by a small group of radically minded “Core developers”, largely through propaganda and censorship." - Feb 3 2018 (oh, the irony)

"Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin." - April 5 2018 (no, its not Rog. That's why bitcoin = BTC and Bitcoin Cash = BCH)

Can we get a campaign started to remove this title from him?

Real Jesus would never have been so greedy and manipulative.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-09-21/five-reasons-bitcoin-jesus-loves-the-currency-video

He's also a convicted felon, and while everybody makes mistakes while they're young, they usually don't make them this badly:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/246762818/UNITED-STATES-OF-AMERICA-Plaintiff-vs-ROGER-VER-Defendant

https://medium.com/@ssoeborg/could-roger-ver-face-jail-time-again-9ec54df6c918

Not exactly a trustworthy individual. Charismatic, intelligent, well-spoken, are some of the traits also frequently assigned to Bernie Madoff.

I honestly didn't intend for this to be a character assassination, it just came out that way.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: davis196 on April 09, 2018, 06:10:39 AM
What?Satoshi Nakamoto is the one and only Bitcoin Jesus.Some ignorant journalists,who don`t know anything about bitcoin`s history(and can`t make the difference between bitcoin core and bitcoin cash) just wrote down some low quality ignorant posts about Ver.
Perhaps Roger Ver had paid them to proclaim him as the "Bitcoin Jesus".
Anyway,the average newbies just don`t know the difference between BTC and BCH.Perhaps a lot of them will be fooled to believe that BCH is the real bitcoin.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: SuperD007 on April 09, 2018, 06:13:30 AM
I'm not sure ...but I THINK maybe he started calling himself that and then the media just ran with it.

so I think it's more of a self proclaimed thing than anyone actually giving him that title... I could be wrong.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Kakmakr on April 09, 2018, 06:21:12 AM
We do not refer to him as "Bitcoin Jesus" anymore, his name has changed to "Bitcoin Judas" According to the Bibble, Judas Iscariot's name is often used synonymously with betrayal or treason. He betrayed Jesus with a Kiss and Roger Ver betrayed the Bitcoin community by switching sides and supporting Bitcoin Cash.

His sole reason for doing this is "Money" and he hides this motive behind ideological arguments that "Bitcoin" is not the "Real" Bitcoin and that Bitcoin Cash <BCash> is the real vision of Satoshi Nakamoto. ^lol^


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on April 09, 2018, 06:26:37 AM
I'm not sure ...but I THINK maybe he started calling himself that and then the media just ran with it.

so I think it's more of a self proclaimed thing than anyone actually giving him that title... I could be wrong.

I think you're right. I can't find the original source of how his self-applied moniker came to be, but if anybody out there has some historical documentation on it I'd like to see it.

We do not refer to him as "Bitcoin Jesus" anymore, his name has changed to "Bitcoin Judas"

Hilarious. Love it. And others now refer to him as the "Bitcoin Anarchist" :D

https://thebitcoin.pub/t/roger-ver-deposits-25-000-btc-to-bitfinex-to-manipulate-the-market/13979


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Steamtyme on April 09, 2018, 06:28:48 AM
Good luck removing his Title.

I got into Crypto last June and fell for his spiel. The problem is he is vocal and visible. He tells a good tale all the while coming across as sincere in his effort to save bitcoin from the sinister forces trying to ruin it.

Sadly I mined at his pool for far to long before I found this forum and really opened my eyes as to what a big mistake I had been making.

He plays the game better than the community does, he uses social media, media and paid ad promotion to make sure he is the loudest and most visible face of BTC. Even now who out there is vocally challenging him and his views with even a fraction of the impact his words have?

I'm just glad I was able to break away from the sheeple long enough to find a better way.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Dapper on April 09, 2018, 06:45:51 AM
I don't think most folks take him seriously.   Anytime I hear his name, I just think to myself how thankful I am that I sold all of my BCH at $3400.   


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on April 09, 2018, 07:37:04 AM
Real Jesus: A bastard carpenter from a poor village in Judea.
Bitcoin Jesus: Trust fund kid from Silicon Valley.

Real Jesus: Preached stripping oneself of worldly possessions, giving them to the poor.
Bitcoin Jesus: Enjoys supporting forks so he can sell the coins to buy more BCH, confuses the poor.

Real Jesus: Led a campaign to destroy moneychanger operations in temples.
Bitcoin Jesus: Created a temple specifically designed for moneychanging.

Real Jesus: Died on the cross at age 30, broke.
Bitcoin Jesus: Millionaire by age 30, still after his infinite pursuit of even more cash.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: ladydark on April 09, 2018, 07:43:05 AM
It's true that earlier Ver was referred as bitcoin Jesus since he promoted bitcoin to spread in earlier days.But when he started to promote BCH terming it as true bitcoin,bitcoin community understood about him and now he is termed as Bitcoin Antichrist and this title suits him the best.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: VitKoyn on April 09, 2018, 09:53:58 AM
Roger Ver earned the name Bitcoin Jesus because he is known for being a Bitcoin supporter and promoter, his company memorydealers is also one of the first company to accept Bitcoin as payment method. For me, at first he really deserves that moniker because he did a lot of things for people to know about Bitcoin and its development but when Bitcoin started to experience scaling problem, he started to promote a hard fork coin "Bitcoin Cash" and saying that it is the real Bitcoin, and allegedly sold all of his Bitcoin, he doesn't deserve to call by that name anymore. A lot of people refer now as a Bitcoin Judas, Bitcoin Antichrist because he is a traitor.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: cryptorTUX on April 09, 2018, 10:19:30 AM
Over the past 2 years, Ver has proven himself to be one of the greediest figures in all of cryptocurrency. Not only did he hijack bitcoin.com to promote BCH, he's been on a relentless crusade to spread misinformation about BTC since the fork, using his "celebrity" to convince others that BCH is actually BTC. This has led to massive amounts of confusion among the public and the media, harming both coins, and now that BCH is falling to the wayside he's simply ramping up his attacks on BTC.

"Since Bitcoin Core is no longer usable as a currency, we should no longer consider it to be a crypto currency." - Dec 13 2017

"Bitcoin Cash is everything that Bitcoin was supposed to be, before it was taken over by a small group of radically minded “Core developers”, largely through propaganda and censorship." - Feb 3 2018 (oh, the irony)

"Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin." - April 5 2018 (no, its not Rog. That's why bitcoin = BTC and Bitcoin Cash = BCH)

Can we get a campaign started to remove this title from him?

Real Jesus would never have been so greedy and manipulative.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-09-21/five-reasons-bitcoin-jesus-loves-the-currency-video

He's also a convicted felon, and while everybody makes mistakes while they're young, they usually don't make them this badly:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/246762818/UNITED-STATES-OF-AMERICA-Plaintiff-vs-ROGER-VER-Defendant

https://medium.com/@ssoeborg/could-roger-ver-face-jail-time-again-9ec54df6c918

Not exactly a trustworthy individual. Charismatic, intelligent, well-spoken, are some of the traits also frequently assigned to Bernie Madoff.

I honestly didn't intend for this to be a character assassination, it just came out that way.



Let him call himself like he wants and let the media call him like he wants. I have no dubts that he is paying some media channels to go there and shill BCH and thus throwing even more confusion between people. I know that I've been reading about some people who sent their BTC to BCH address because of his false advertisement that BCH is real bitcoin. Whenever he shows up to any interview he is saying the same crap about BCH how it is superior to BTC, like he does is copy paste and hope AND HOPE BCH will succeed so he can earn big since majority of his funds are in BCH right now. I really don't understand people who follow this guy, my condolence to them ha.

I am just glad that his twitter @bitcoin is closed by tweeter, thanks to all people who reported it.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: eternalgloom on April 09, 2018, 10:27:27 AM
Roger Ver earned the name Bitcoin Jesus because he is known for being a Bitcoin supporter and promoter, his company memorydealers is also one of the first company to accept Bitcoin as payment method. For me, at first he really deserves that moniker because he did a lot of things for people to know about Bitcoin and its development but when Bitcoin started to experience scaling problem, he started to promote a hard fork coin "Bitcoin Cash" and saying that it is the real Bitcoin, and allegedly sold all of his Bitcoin, he doesn't deserve to call by that name anymore. A lot of people refer now as a Bitcoin Judas, Bitcoin Antichrist because he is a traitor.

Bitcoin Judas really is a more fitting title after all the stuff he pulled with Bitcoin Cash, but I still don't think he deserved the name Bitcoin Jesus.
You can't say that he was the only one who did a lot for Bitcoin in the beginning, there were many more people that did the same, if not more.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: chillitabit on April 09, 2018, 10:30:32 AM
Over the past 2 years, Ver has proven himself to be one of the greediest figures in all of cryptocurrency. Not only did he hijack bitcoin.com to promote BCH, he's been on a relentless crusade to spread misinformation about BTC since the fork, using his "celebrity" to convince others that BCH is actually BTC. This has led to massive amounts of confusion among the public and the media, harming both coins, and now that BCH is falling to the wayside he's simply ramping up his attacks on BTC.

"Since Bitcoin Core is no longer usable as a currency, we should no longer consider it to be a crypto currency." - Dec 13 2017

"Bitcoin Cash is everything that Bitcoin was supposed to be, before it was taken over by a small group of radically minded “Core developers”, largely through propaganda and censorship." - Feb 3 2018 (oh, the irony)

"Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin." - April 5 2018 (no, its not Rog. That's why bitcoin = BTC and Bitcoin Cash = BCH)

Can we get a campaign started to remove this title from him?

Real Jesus would never have been so greedy and manipulative.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-09-21/five-reasons-bitcoin-jesus-loves-the-currency-video

He's also a convicted felon, and while everybody makes mistakes while they're young, they usually don't make them this badly:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/246762818/UNITED-STATES-OF-AMERICA-Plaintiff-vs-ROGER-VER-Defendant

https://medium.com/@ssoeborg/could-roger-ver-face-jail-time-again-9ec54df6c918

Not exactly a trustworthy individual. Charismatic, intelligent, well-spoken, are some of the traits also frequently assigned to Bernie Madoff.

I honestly didn't intend for this to be a character assassination, it just came out that way.


the thing with Jesus is very funny indeed. he's the early bitcoin celebrity, notable for many things, infamous recently for Bitcoin Cash, yet usually media like to find some nicknames, Ver ended up with Jesus :)


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on April 10, 2018, 04:43:04 AM
Its just embarrassing that he's the go-to spokesperson for bitcoin, when all he does is pump Bitcoin Cash.

It's like if the United States elected Donald Trump to office only to find out he was actually a Russian spy.

Oh wait a minute....


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Kakmakr on April 10, 2018, 06:04:56 AM
I'm not sure ...but I THINK maybe he started calling himself that and then the media just ran with it.

so I think it's more of a self proclaimed thing than anyone actually giving him that title... I could be wrong.

I think you're right. I can't find the original source of how his self-applied moniker came to be, but if anybody out there has some historical documentation on it I'd like to see it.

We do not refer to him as "Bitcoin Jesus" anymore, his name has changed to "Bitcoin Judas"

Hilarious. Love it. And others now refer to him as the "Bitcoin Anarchist" :D

https://thebitcoin.pub/t/roger-ver-deposits-25-000-btc-to-bitfinex-to-manipulate-the-market/13979

You made a small spelling error there. <See the word in red> It should have been Antichrist.

Bible prophecy of the end time talks about a mysterious figure called the Antichrist (also called the "man of sin" and the false prophet)

The false prophet is very descriptive of what he is doing at the moment with Bitcoin Cash. He called his Alt coin something that closely resemble the real Bitcoin, but it is actually the exact opposite and direct competition to the real Bitcoin. <BTC> This is done to deliberately confuse people.

He is also a Anarchist by definition - a person who believes in or tries to bring about anarchy.



Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Xester on April 10, 2018, 08:00:37 AM
That title is not suited for Roger Ver. Jesus is a God, a messiah , this was my belief and the whole Christian community. To compare Ver to Jesus is just blasphemy. Even if we put the concept of Christianity aside Roger Ver cannot be the savior of Bitcoin. He even supported bitcoin cash and left bitcoin so how can we call him that. His words are nothing but for the sake of getting your dollars out of your pocket.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on April 11, 2018, 03:58:01 AM
That title is not suited for Roger Ver. Jesus is a God, a messiah , this was my belief and the whole Christian community. To compare Ver to Jesus is just blasphemy. Even if we put the concept of Christianity aside Roger Ver cannot be the savior of Bitcoin. He even supported bitcoin cash and left bitcoin so how can we call him that. His words are nothing but for the sake of getting your dollars out of your pocket.

Exactly. It's a disgusting title for him to give himself in all respects.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: hugeblack on April 11, 2018, 08:17:08 AM
Because "He invested over a million dollars into new bitcoin related startups including Ripple, Blockchain.info, Bitpay and Kraken."[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ver)
The same Media which gave "Bitcoin Jesus" as nickname, caused the rise of the Ripple "Ripple Could Be The Next Bitcoin"[It's the power of money]
Also at the same time that Roger preferred to appear in public, the Bitcoin myths tended to conceal their identities.

Source:
#1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ver


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on April 11, 2018, 08:21:36 AM
Because "He invested over a million dollars into new bitcoin related startups including Ripple, Blockchain.info, Bitpay and Kraken."

Okay so he's an investor.

I don't exactly remember Jesus being an investor in anything other than a belief system that tried to get people to act right.

So why do we have to pretend he has anything to do with Jesus?

As someone mentioned earlier, Bitcoin Judas is a far more appropriate title.



Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: fiulpro on April 11, 2018, 08:22:46 AM
I don't think that Campaign will go any good because media doesn't care about anything at all..
They just need something to raise eyes on also to be honest I have never thought of him in that way and nor would have anyone here ever .. because everyone is aware of his selfish moves and his motives ..how he got his profit out of Bitcoins and now trying to do the same thing from bitcoins cash.
Well it's the matter of what we take into our hearts uk ..not just what media calls I don't even think he holds any stand here.. everyone already know greedy he is .
If he is given techniques to do anything he.. is the kind of man who would you know open a blood bank by Taking out the blood of mosquitoes😂 no offense to bitcoins cash supporters but you know what he did was so wrong .


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: virendarnagpal on April 11, 2018, 08:57:35 AM
While reading this post a feel is coming as if I am sitting in a church where religious controversies are being discussed.  If media is referring some person as Bitcoin Jesus they must be proving their statements with some logic.
But real Jesus died for the betterment of humanity.  I have no problem in calling  some other person Jesus but whether he is also contributing to the same extant?  Just creation / invention of certain currency will not give equal status.  There have been many scientists who discovered / invented a lot but still all those are not Jesus.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: BrentMack on April 11, 2018, 09:56:58 AM
I have never heard this term personally but I think it is because Ver has invested so much money into start ups and has supported their projects massively but I don't think that term is proper though.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Lucius on April 11, 2018, 10:43:32 AM
I do not know who give Roger that name,maybe he is use his money&power and bought it for himself-he is owner of many crypto related sites and have some influence on public opinion.Probably if he stay with BTC and not make BCH,that nickname would not bother anyone-but since he is against BTC it would be fairly to call him "Bitcoin Judas",as one member suggest.

I have a suggestion for him,since Jesus was crucified on the cross to save humanity maybe he should do the same thing-but of course not to save humanity, but to save his beloved&precious BitcoinCash.




Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: celcoid on April 12, 2018, 04:23:26 AM
Every one knows the answer to this question,  Roger ver has been the one called bitcoin Jesus,  but I cant call him that name again, because he looked at bitcoin in the eyes and betrayed it. Trying to make bcash look like the real bitcoin , I think his title has now be stolen from him and now remained to bitcoin Judas instead of bitcoin Jesus.  Haahah no offense if you are gonna read this Mr roger ver


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Harlot on April 12, 2018, 04:45:52 AM
I get your point but why do we need to start campaign for it? When he can discredit himself with one false move or when the time comes that all people are not believing him anymore. Just like what Twitter did to the suspected account of Roger Ver, as a result of real Bitcoin supporters reporting the misleading tweets of that account. Price manipulation of Bitcoin Cash shows that he is in fact greedy and doesn't care about other people but other people as well are doing price manipulation especially whales, what makes him different from them?


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on April 12, 2018, 06:09:42 AM
The campaign has started. I'm starting it right.... now.

And... go.



Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Lucius on April 12, 2018, 09:11:23 AM
I have a suggestion for him,since Jesus was crucified on the cross to save humanity maybe he should do the same thing-but of course not to save humanity, but to save his beloved&precious BitcoinCash.


Oh man. That's freakin' hilarious! You win dude. You win.

Thank you, I am glad that at least somebody liked it ;D

Also I think that with time media will stop call him "Bitcoin Jesus",maybe they should call him "BitcoinCash Jesus" or something like that.One way to maybe influence the media is to just write e-mails to them and ask them to not use this name anymore.But these days people have some other worries when it comes to cryrptocurrency,Roger can be Jesus,Judas or Donald Duck ;)

Did you hear what happened when Roger decided to sacrifice for BitcoinCash?After he died and time for the resurrection is come he heard a voice from the sky saying : "Roger are you ready to redemption for your sins", and he say : "Yes I am ready,I paid my stupidity with death".Then he saw a light and the person stood in front of him,it was Satoshi Nakamoto-he say : "Roger we have big problem with your resurrection,your pockets are full of BitcoinCash and you are overweight to come with me",Roger looked at him sadly : "And what now master?", Satoshi say : "You will be revived and your coin will be named BitcoinTrash,from now on you'll be known as Judas of Bitcoin". :D


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on April 12, 2018, 01:44:23 PM
Did you hear what happened when Roger decided to sacrifice for BitcoinCash?After he died and time for the resurrection is come he heard a voice from the sky saying : "Roger are you ready to redemption for your sins", and he say : "Yes I am ready,I paid my stupidity with death".Then he saw a light and the person stood in front of him,it was Satoshi Nakamoto-he say : "Roger we have big problem with your resurrection,your pockets are full of BitcoinCash and you are overweight to come with me",Roger looked at him sadly : "And what now master?", Satoshi say : "You will be revived and your coin will be named BitcoinTrash,from now on you'll be known as Judas of Bitcoin". :D

 :D :D :D

"And thus Roger was rightly scorned by the Crypto Society,
 Outcast to the knave refuge of St. Kitts,
 Cursed to walk the earth a mere mortal being,
 As Satoshi deemed this punishment befitting,
 And that he should be ridiculed on Twitter and other social media forums for all eternity
 And Real Jesus laughed,
 Albeit still a bit pissed that Rog was compared to him in the first place."

- The Book of Merkle, 3:5 - 3:12


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: carlisle1 on April 12, 2018, 01:49:18 PM
What?Satoshi Nakamoto is the one and only Bitcoin Jesus.Some ignorant journalists,who don`t know anything about bitcoin`s history(and can`t make the difference between bitcoin core and bitcoin cash) just wrote down some low quality ignorant posts about Ver.
Perhaps Roger Ver had paid them to proclaim him as the "Bitcoin Jesus".
Anyway,the average newbies just don`t know the difference between BTC and BCH.Perhaps a lot of them will be fooled to believe that BCH is the real bitcoin.
perfectly right on that one Budz,seems like the issue is just exaggerating and ver becomes a bitcoin goddess,but kidding aside ?i dont wanna give a damn about that person since i dont really know him that much,or maybe good to say is i dont care about him..lets just dont exposed this name and sooner it would be forgotten


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: xxToaDxx on April 19, 2018, 05:07:52 AM
Every one knows the answer to this question,  Roger ver has been the one called bitcoin Jesus,  but I cant call him that name again, because he looked at bitcoin in the eyes and betrayed it. Trying to make bcash look like the real bitcoin , I think his title has now be stolen from him and now remained to bitcoin Judas instead of bitcoin Jesus.  Haahah no offense if you are gonna read this Mr roger ver


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Wind_FURY on April 19, 2018, 05:22:52 AM
Here is the latest mischievous, dickhead move by Roger Ver. If he can openly but jokingly bribe Reddit like that, don't you believe he have done it to the owner of the @bitcoin account on Twitter?

Another disturbing thought would be if he can bribe some of the mods in this forum. I hope not.

https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/986621892684492800

Quote
Dear @reddit, I heard that as of recently you were not a profitable company.
I'll pay you $100,000 USD if you simply appoint a moderator to /r/Bitcoin who supports free speech.

I also opened a topic about being attacked by hired spammers to spread misinformation and prevent serious discussion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3127703.0

I believe it is possible that something like that is happening in the forum.



Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: gabmen on April 19, 2018, 12:03:55 PM
Every one knows the answer to this question,  Roger ver has been the one called bitcoin Jesus,  but I cant call him that name again, because he looked at bitcoin in the eyes and betrayed it. Trying to make bcash look like the real bitcoin , I think his title has now be stolen from him and now remained to bitcoin Judas instead of bitcoin Jesus.  Haahah no offense if you are gonna read this Mr roger ver

Lol. Cool analogy dude. Though a lot of people have been tagged as that including mr. Mcafee who's probably going to eat his own member in 2 years. Roger ver is still insisting though that bch is the real bitcoin though his effects aren't as loud now as when it was initially stated. People have moved on from mr.ver


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on April 20, 2018, 06:44:25 AM
Every one knows the answer to this question,  Roger ver has been the one called bitcoin Jesus,  but I cant call him that name again, because he looked at bitcoin in the eyes and betrayed it. Trying to make bcash look like the real bitcoin , I think his title has now be stolen from him and now remained to bitcoin Judas instead of bitcoin Jesus.  Haahah no offense if you are gonna read this Mr roger ver

Every one knows the answer to this question,  Roger ver has been the one called bitcoin Jesus,  but I cant call him that name again, because he looked at bitcoin in the eyes and betrayed it. Trying to make bcash look like the real bitcoin , I think his title has now be stolen from him and now remained to bitcoin Judas instead of bitcoin Jesus.  Haahah no offense if you are gonna read this Mr roger ver

Can we get these two idiots banned? At least Idiot #1?

you can't just re-post somebody else's exact same post, pretend its your own, and not expect to get banned.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: RawDog on April 20, 2018, 07:54:40 AM
Over the past 2 years, Ver has proven himself to be one of the greediest figures in all of cryptocurrency.
You've got to be kidding.  Ver is very generous.  Your little troll gang can only fool the dumbest of the community.  Nearly everyone understands that Ver firmly believes in the old original and he works very hard to keep that network alive.  Good fucking luck with Lightning.  I hope it works.  But why does everyone have to shit on Roger because he considers the original Bitcoin to be important still?  It doesn't slow your coders down.  Let them code away on Lightning.  Maybe they will make something nice.  You all act like Roger is eating their lunch.  Roger doesn't interfere at all with Lightning.  Only Lightning coders can slow that piece of shit down. 


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Herbert2020 on April 20, 2018, 08:19:08 AM
Over the past 2 years, Ver has proven himself to be one of the greediest figures in all of cryptocurrency.
You've got to be kidding.  Ver is very generous.  Your little troll gang can only fool the dumbest of the community.  Nearly everyone understands that Ver firmly believes in the old original and he works very hard to keep that network alive.  Good fucking luck with Lightning.  I hope it works.  But why does everyone have to shit on Roger because he considers the original Bitcoin to be important still?  It doesn't slow your coders down.  Let them code away on Lightning.  Maybe they will make something nice.  You all act like Roger is eating their lunch.  Roger doesn't interfere at all with Lightning.  Only Lightning coders can slow that piece of shit down. 

you are a bigger fool that i thought if you really believe what you just said.
Roger Ver saw chaos in bitcoin thanks to scaling debate and used that chaos as a ladder to fill his pockets and become even richer.
and regarding slow down, the constant FUD that has been spread by him all over the media has slowed down everything more than you think. and it is not just slowing things down it is about all the false information that is circling the internet thanks to him!


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: mu_enrico on April 20, 2018, 08:41:15 AM
I see him (Ver) as a trully Satoshi (God) believer. I don't know man if Segwit LN BTC is the best BTC.
Ver's passion seems genuine..
The more I read and watch many people speak about BTC vs BCH, the more confused I become :'(


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on April 20, 2018, 11:51:09 AM
Your little troll gang can only fool the dumbest of the community.  

My "little troll gang"  ???  :D  :D  ::)

You mean the Entire Bitcoin Community ??

You're not part of the bitcoin community. If you shill for Rog, you're part of the Bitcoin Cash community.

There's a whole other section for that. Its called Altcoin Discussion. I suggest you head on over there if you're looking for sympathy.

Nearly everyone understands that Ver firmly believes in the old original and he works very hard to keep that network alive.  

No, he doesn't. It seems like he spends every bit of his spare time trying to discredit it.

Good fucking luck with Lightning.  I hope it works.  

It's already working. It's not a matter of opinion. Why else do you think tx fees came down so awesomely since its implementation?

But why does everyone have to shit on Roger because he considers the original Bitcoin to be important still?

He doesn't! He's stated several times that "Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin." No, its not. That's why the symbol for bitcoin is BTC and the symbol for Bitcoin Cash is BCH.

The more I read and watch many people speak about BTC vs BCH, the more confused I become :'(

This is Rog's greatest contribution to bitcoin thusfar. Cementing confusion and division among an already highly confusing and divisive subject. And guess who profits? Let me give you a clue. His initials are R.V.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: LeGaulois on April 20, 2018, 02:30:39 PM
Over the past 2 years, Ver has proven himself to be one of the greediest figures in all of cryptocurrency.
You've got to be kidding.  Ver is very generous.  Your little troll gang can only fool the dumbest of the community.  Nearly everyone understands that Ver firmly believes in the old original and he works very hard to keep that network alive.  Good fucking luck with Lightning.  I hope it works.  But why does everyone have to shit on Roger because he considers the original Bitcoin to be important still?  It doesn't slow your coders down.  Let them code away on Lightning.  Maybe they will make something nice.  You all act like Roger is eating their lunch.  Roger doesn't interfere at all with Lightning.  Only Lightning coders can slow that piece of shit down.  

Work very hard how?
Posting fake news and lies, manipulating fake screenshots from Blockstream website and inventing some Bcash events? Is it what you call working hard? If your product is so good you wouldn't need to use such deceptive marketing methods, can we agree with it at least?

Buying websites to spread mis-information, buying sockpuppets accounts, spamming etc how do you call it?


Ah the Satoshi Vision? Bcash has nothing with the real Satoshi vision, Do you know Satoshi was already talking about what we call today the Lightning Network?

Bitcoin scalability comes from coding not increasing the block sizes to what could be 40 go in the future.

Off topic: Bitcoin won't go to zero it's not possible "Too big to fail" ! 8)


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on April 21, 2018, 03:16:33 PM

Work very hard how?
Posting fake news and lies, manipulating fake screenshots from Blockstream website and inventing some Bcash events? Is it what you call working hard? If your product is so good you wouldn't need to use such deceptive marketing methods, can we agree with it at least?

Buying websites to spread mis-information, buying sockpuppets accounts, spamming etc how do you call it?

He even has the nerve to use the bitcoin logo for BCH. He didn't change it one bit.

Furthermore, why couldn't he buy the domain name bitcoincash.com and use that to shill his altcoin, instead of co-opting bitcoin.com?

His behavior is nothing short of disgusting and it goes against every principle cryptocurrency is supposed to be about: redistributing financial power to the masses; not hoarding it and corrupting it for one's own personal gain, ala fiat. That's exactly what Satoshi was trying to escape.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: RawDog on April 21, 2018, 03:21:15 PM
He doesn't! He's stated several times that "Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin." No, its not. That's why the symbol for bitcoin is BTC and the symbol for Bitcoin Cash is BCH.
This is why I love you morons.  You think that because the symbol 'BTC' - therefore real.  What a brilliant conclusion.  Go read the whitepaper dumbass.  Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin.  Maybe one day lightning will be interesting and functional.  But it isn't Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on April 21, 2018, 03:23:03 PM
He doesn't! He's stated several times that "Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin." No, its not. That's why the symbol for bitcoin is BTC and the symbol for Bitcoin Cash is BCH.
This is why I love you morons.  You think that because the symbol 'BTC' - therefore real.  What a brilliant conclusion.  Go read the whitepaper dumbass.  Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin.  Maybe one day lightning will be interesting and functional.  But it isn't Bitcoin.

Why do you insist on being ridiculous?


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nidacoinlove on April 21, 2018, 03:50:39 PM
Over the past 2 years, Ver has proven himself to be one of the greediest figures in all of cryptocurrency.
You've got to be kidding.  Ver is very generous.  Your little troll gang can only fool the dumbest of the community.  Nearly everyone understands that Ver firmly believes in the old original and he works very hard to keep that network alive.  Good fucking luck with Lightning.  I hope it works.  But why does everyone have to shit on Roger because he considers the original Bitcoin to be important still?  It doesn't slow your coders down.  Let them code away on Lightning.  Maybe they will make something nice.  You all act like Roger is eating their lunch.  Roger doesn't interfere at all with Lightning.  Only Lightning coders can slow that piece of shit down. 

you are a bigger fool that i thought if you really believe what you just said.
Roger Ver saw chaos in bitcoin thanks to scaling debate and used that chaos as a ladder to fill his pockets and become even richer.
and regarding slow down, the constant FUD that has been spread by him all over the media has slowed down everything more than you think. and it is not just slowing things down it is about all the false information that is circling the internet thanks to him!
I feel petty for those who still believe in Ver and guess what? It's really funny when they say fool to the people who follow Bitcoin. Ver just tried to reinvent the wheel and nothing else.
Everyone should be clear about the fact that Ver only is interested in his personal wealth, what all he did and is doing is all for a personal interest.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on April 28, 2018, 11:45:36 AM
Everyone should be clear about the fact that Ver only is interested in his personal wealth, what all he did and is doing is all for a personal interest.

boom. truthbomb.

Roger Ver did reinvent the wheel. He called it Wheel Cash and continues to use to original wheel logo.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Slow death on April 28, 2018, 12:25:47 PM

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Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?

let's go back a bit in the past:

Bitcoin Jesus and the Largest Bitcoin Donation
 (https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin_jesus_and_the_largest_bitcoin_donation)

Young entrepreneur and multimillionaire Ver Roger proved that he is true “The Bitcoin Jesus” and made the largest bitcoin donation ever. In the latest video on YouTube Roger tels that the real success of Bitcoin is yet to come.

Ver Roger was born in the world’s technology development center – the Silicon Valley. When he was 19-years old Rogers managed to open his first business called MemoryDealers. In the beginning he was selling discount computer accessories at online store. A young man invested in his 1.4 thousand dollars that he earned during summer, to buy several hard drives and then sold them on eBay. Exactly this venture helped Roger to earn his first million.

First time when Roger heard about bitcoin digital currency on the radio he had skeptical opinion, though he realized that this might be the best form of money that has ever existed in the world. He began to search for any information concidering Bitcoin.

Soon after, Rogers invested in BitInstant.com. Later he invested in many other projects related to digital currency, including BitPay, BlockShain, CoinLab etc. Rogers believed in bitcoin future and MemoryDealers.com became one of the first companies that accept bitcoin payments. Moreover, when nobody really knew about bitcoin Rogers had put up a huge roadside billboard to advertise digital currency.

Peter Vessenes, CEO of Bitcoin Foundation, even gave Rogers the nickname “The Bitcoin Jesus” for his generous and faith in digital currency.


On the 30th November Rogers made one million dollars or one thousand coins donation to the Foundation for Economic Education (www.FEE.org). It is the world’s largest bitcoin donation ever. Rogers called it as a price for “losing” a bed he had made a couple of years ago – he made a bet for $10,000 that bitcoin would “outperform gold, silver, the US stock market and the US dollar by more than one hundred times over the next two years”.

In the latest video Rogers made a statement: “I’m here today to say that I was wrong, In reality it took about two years and two months for bitcoin to outperform everything else by more than a hundred times. Over that time, gold and silver are down, the stock market is up about 45 per cent, but Bitcoin is up more than 15,000 per cent, or more than three hundred times everything else.”

It is worth to mention, that in the beginning of 2011 bitcoin prices stood at about 1 dollar, and now it is traded for 1 thousand dollars.

However, Rogers consider that this is not a limit for digital currency. He believes that it should cost tens or even hundreds of thousands dollars.

In the video Rogers shared his inspiration and said: “I will proudly continue to promote Bitcoin full time because I see it as the best chance the world has ever seen at creating a more peaceful society in which all human interactions are voluntary, and outside groups of people calling themselves the state are no longer able to violently interject themselves into the affairs of others”.

To see video visit: www.youtube.com/watch?v=orzhba2dV1A



Interview: ‘Bitcoin Jesus’ Roger Ver (https://cointelegraph.com/news/interview_bitcoin_jesus_roger_ver)

Bitcoin angel investor and Blockchain business developer Roger Ver has worked tirelessly for a few years to promote Bitcoin in the mainstream press, and a few narratives about him seem to have stuck.

Thou shalt not steal: ‘Bitcoin Jesus’ Roger Ver fends off Hacker (https://cointelegraph.com/news/thou_shalt_not_steal_bitcoin_jesus_roger_ver_fends_off_hacker)

When a hacker gained access to a mothballed Facebook and email address owned by Roger Ver, the angel investor was quick to publicize his wrongdoings.

Ask Bitcoin Jesus, Roger Ver Anything (https://cointelegraph.com/news/ask_bitcoin_jesus_roger_ver_anything)

Cointelegraph is deeply involved in the Bitcoin community! And what you've seen already is just the tip of the iceberg!

Next week, don’t miss your chance to ask your questions to Bitcoin Jesus (Roger Ver) on our subreddit r/Cointelegraph. We will also interview one of the most famous men in the Cryptocurrency world and will pick the best questions from the Bitcoin community to include in the interview. Together we can make Bitcoin even stronger!

MAR 23, 2017:

Roger Ver: “I Will Sell My Coins To Buy “More Useful” Bitcoin Unlimited” (https://cointelegraph.com/news/roger-ver-i-will-sell-my-coins-to-buy-more-useful-bitcoin-unlimited)

“I will sell my coins on the slow, expensive Core chain and use the proceeds from that [...] to buy some of the more useful Bitcoins because Bitcoin Unlimited coins will be so much more useful.”

with this little walk that I did to the past, we can see that he did some good things for bitcoin and he has merit for it, but he got out of his way and so we have to let him sink


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Lucius on May 02, 2018, 10:07:02 AM

I just noticed this. Congrats, your meme got picked up on a crypto website article:

https://coinclarity.com/knowing-your-crypto-memes/

Thanks for the info,although I must emphasize that this is not my meme-I just posted it in this thread,but I must thank the author for it :)


I feel petty for those who still believe in Ver and guess what? It's really funny when they say fool to the people who follow Bitcoin. Ver just tried to reinvent the wheel and nothing else.
Everyone should be clear about the fact that Ver only is interested in his personal wealth, what all he did and is doing is all for a personal interest.

People are changing in life,and these changes can sometimes be pretty drastic-we see this in the example of Roger Ver,once was a great supporter of BTC,but in one moment he turned into the greatest enemy.I agree that he saw an opportunity to profit and he took advantage of that.That would not even be nothing wrong if he did not began to spread false information that BitcoinCash in real Bitcoin.We all know how it ended,most have realized what it is all about-but some are still belive in that idea even today.BCH is just one more altcoin,nothing more, nothing less.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on May 06, 2018, 03:00:17 PM
BCH is just one more altcoin,nothing more, nothing less.

Its incredibly sad to hear about BCH fanatics stooping so low as to alter Wikipedia to link to BCH block explorers, and of course Ver's sabotaging of bitcoin.com to promote his version of the "real bitcoin."

So while he may have been generous at one point, he's anything but now.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: jhonnydeep87 on May 06, 2018, 09:58:51 PM
Probably ver has invested a lot of money into the beginning and has supported their projects on a large scale but I do not think the term correctly. Ver assumes that bitcoin is like his god. 8)


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Webadasz on May 26, 2018, 10:06:45 PM
which media are you taling about?


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: aiviaa485 on June 06, 2018, 12:37:18 PM
already in the definite if Bitcoin Jesus it is Bitcoin Cash who always want to overthrow the price of Bitcoin.

Roger Ver is very greedy, he mengulahal all ways to make Bitcoin Cash mennj Cryptocurrency the first.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: hhussain on June 23, 2018, 09:24:21 PM
Even though bitcoin had made its place in the investment market , its connection to the industries and consumer market was still to be established, Roger Ver is the person who has taken the unconventional step of integrating these two markets to alleviate the value of bitcoin and hence given the title of bitcoin Jesus.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Steamtyme on June 27, 2018, 03:43:13 PM
BitPico just gave Ver a schoolyard call out, and wants to see him cry. :o

https://bitcoinist.com/roger-ver-bitpico-hard-fork-bitcoin-cash/

I started a topic here, but wanted to provide the update on the BTC Jesus Judas...


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4554671.msg41022039#msg41022039


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on June 28, 2018, 11:29:08 AM
BitPico just gave Ver a schoolyard call out, and wants to see him cry. :o

https://bitcoinist.com/roger-ver-bitpico-hard-fork-bitcoin-cash/

I started a topic here, but wanted to provide the update on the BTC Jesus Judas...


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4554671.msg41022039#msg41022039

Hilarious. The 2 main problems with BCH is that:

1. It's a blatant cash grab; an attempt to cash in on the good name of bitcoin.
2. Nobody uses it for anything! It has very little adoption anywhere. It's just another speculation-driven altcoin that happens to have the word "Bitcoin" in its name.

After the incident with Wikipedia where BCH people kept changing the "bitcoin" entry to link to a Bitcoin Cash block explorer, and Roger using bitcoin.com basically to trick people into thinking BCH is BTC, there's little doubt left that he's just an extremely greed-driven individual, on the indomitable quest for even more money.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: RawDog on July 04, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
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"Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?"
He is Jesus.  Don't you like to be referred to by your proper name?


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: aziie110 on July 11, 2018, 04:49:16 PM
The Bitcoin cryptocurrency has no use or will not increase in value to dominate the financial world unless it is used like the physical currencies, Roger Ver is one of the only top investors in this field who is funding startups to use bitcoin as a form of a transaction instead of the usual currencies,




Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: kinhdolaos on July 14, 2018, 04:38:24 AM
Perhaps Roger Ver paid them to declare him "Bitcoin Jesus". His name changed to "Bitcoin Judas"


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Images21 on July 14, 2018, 04:53:53 AM
The media has mostly been wrong not just about Bitcoin and crypto but also about who's which or what? I agree that Bitcoin is Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash is nothing but a splinter. It is an alternate cryptocurrency. I am not underestimating altcoins but Bitcoin is always and will always be on top of all cryptos. And I really do not find it good to the entire crypto economy that Bitcoin Cash is promoting itself by trying to destroy Bitcoin's reputation. There is no Bitcoin Core, there is only Bitcoin. Those that have Bitcoin in their names are not Bitcoin and will never become one.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: dutchkay on July 14, 2018, 05:05:17 AM
I believe that what is happening is simply a thug of war between greedy parties. Who knows the kind of agreement that the reached in order to get control over bitcoin. Maybe his ideals are not bought over by his team again and because he have money he walked away to develop his hoping to kill the real bitcoin. All i know is that when elephants fight the grass will be the ones to suffer, so am staying very far and watching from the sidelines.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: rodel caling on July 14, 2018, 05:26:01 AM
What?Satoshi Nakamoto is the one and only Bitcoin Jesus.Some ignorant journalists,who don`t know anything about bitcoin`s history(and can`t make the difference between bitcoin core and bitcoin cash) just wrote down some low quality ignorant posts about Ver.
Perhaps Roger Ver had paid them to proclaim him as the "Bitcoin Jesus".
Anyway,the average newbies just don`t know the difference between BTC and BCH.Perhaps a lot of them will be fooled to believe that BCH is the real bitcoin.


I really agree with you buddy media want to penetrate ignorant people using news propaganda about bitcoin core and bitcoin cash, i do not trust roger ver reputation becuase he want to change the reality bitcoiin is in the place as king but he want to kicking out bitcoin in their place as king of cryptocurrency replacing bch.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: Ahimoth on July 14, 2018, 05:47:18 AM
He doesn't! He's stated several times that "Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin." No, its not. That's why the symbol for bitcoin is BTC and the symbol for Bitcoin Cash is BCH.
This is why I love you morons.  You think that because the symbol 'BTC' - therefore real.  What a brilliant conclusion.  Go read the whitepaper dumbass.  Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin.  Maybe one day lightning will be interesting and functional.  But it isn't Bitcoin.
Well I think the reason is that Ver is the pioneer of this system and he helped bitcoin to be known all over the world. He started something for bitcoin because he saw something with the system that can really help us. He deserved to be recognized and that's the reason why I think that other people are praising him for what he have done.


Title: Re: Why Does the Media Keep Referring to Ver as "Bitcoin Jesus"?
Post by: nutildah on September 01, 2018, 10:33:28 AM
Thanks CNBC  ::) ::)

https://i.imgur.com/J986WVp.png

Well I guess Rog needs something to be happy about these days.