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Respected Sr.member, Hero, Legendary show an example in earnings of these merits. Many new beginners have a negative say about the system of merit and all the old men of the forum do not see a problem in the earnings of these merits. So what I suggest is to experiment and set an example to all beginners not by words but by action! Create an account newbie and up it to the rank member, but here need an honest man who will not ask their friend to give him merit. And see how much time this person will reach the rank of members. Who will dare to go through this experiment it is necessary to inform a new account me (experiment was fair as people will reach the rank members in this post will be written by his nickname so all could see ). Once again say needed an honest man!!!  There is a wish or right now as always will begin condemnation and words alone. I think 2 people are enough for this. does Not create a new account, write in the post that you are ready experiment so I have write to you in PM. And me write to here that I found 2 two people for this
To reduce the time of the experiment it is possible to make up to 5 merits your new account

Thanks for understanding

There are already some people who created their alts even though the new system was implemented months ago... Let me give you an example...

Jet Cash (http://Jet Cash) who's already a HERO MEMBER, He created his alt Talk Merit... he's a great example for your experiment... although his account was still a newbie but he already gained enough to reach a MEMBER position... sooner or later he will also be like nullius who doesn't have any problem on ranking up...

When you know who it is, it is not an experiment! It is the pathos of clean water

There's no need for experiment buddy, we don't have to make this things in place of those newbies who keeps on whining about the system, unless you're also one of them... just mind your own business and rank up for yourself.

The fact that you were able to get merits for your posts means the system works.

I was a member already when introduced merit  :( and I can't say how it influenced the achievement of new merit. I would create a new account for the experiment but I'm just learning what the crypto world is and it will last longer

Indeed, a lot of people active here that are SR, Hero or Legendary alreayd have enough merit to get to at least a member account and potentially further.


Yes. I don't think Talk Merit got his scores just because he was Jet Cash (they might just merit Jet Cash instead as that's his main account anyway).

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I was considering testing the ranking up part myself by making a new account - though I doubt it would actually do much other than taking merit from actual newbies here that are more deservant as they need it to rank up.
And you have already earnt quite a bit of merit yourself OP.

New generation of higher ranked users come from current higher ranked users by creating new alt-accounts and ranking up gradually.
Hot trend and it is exciting to see how it happen.
Merit system will be demonstrated by current higher ranked users and their alt-accounts. Just kidding a bit because it should not be serious all the time. In fact, all members can try and see real effects of merit system.
Honestly, I think raining up other merit system is possible task, particularly for constructive users.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1350339

All your merits are awarded.

I see you are good at earning merits mate. With the member rank account itself you already earned around 14 merits after merits rank up implemented on this forum. You choose the right thread to share your post there.
You may find the new thread has been created to ask the doubts which is deadly needed.
Those kind of threads will allow you earn merits from the op poster. Next to that technical and statistical assistance will help you on that.

I think it's not necessary. You are intending to make an experiment to become an example for beginners am I right? Well, that really is unnecessary at all. There are already some Jr. Members who ranked up to Member and I think its enough to prove that the ranking system is working, and those Members who ranked up are enough to be an example for other Newbies and Jr. Members.
Actually earning Merit is not too difficult IF you're contributing well and making Good Quality posts here in the Forum. Other Members prefer to do bounty hunting and some are spamming that's why they can't receive any Merits. Well, it is their choice anyway.

Merit System was implemented to force those spammers to improve their posts, to force them to make a Good Quality of posts. When Merit System was introduced, they were given a second chance to improve themselves and to stop spamming. But, some members seems like they just wasted the opportunity as they are still spamming here in the Forum, well we can't do anything to force them now. It is their choice if they don't want to rank up.

Besides that, I'm pretty sure that some Hero and Legendary Members won't make it to rank to Member if they create a new account. I'm sure that not all of them are Good Quality posters. Some high rank Members just reached their rank because of the old ranking system which is based on Activity count. They are the one who must accept this challenge if they can really make it to Member (and also if they only want to accept this challenge).

Well OP, it seems like you're a good poster. There's no doubt by looking at your Merits. (I hope you didn't earn it in wrong ways because I'm not gonna check your Merit history as I believed that you're a Good poster). I'm sure you will make it to rank to Full Member soon. Be an inspiration to other Members :)
Use yourself as a good example for other beginners. That solves your problem :)

Wow that is an amazing thing. It is true that what you say is because nowadays many beginners complain that they have no knowledge and they can not contribute to the forum. Although it is now much more to increase account level, but I think complaining and telling everyone that unfair merit system is a hypocritical thing. We should all be trying to contribute to this forum, do our best and we will get the best results too. Yes we will get a merit when we can give our best.

I think I'll never being able to find you out if you don't create this topic, Lunarics :)

Account related:

Lunarics (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1350339)
krassy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1352631)
zumrarthus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1605401)

Proof:

Alt account, abusing Merit system and Hero bounty twitter bounty campaign :)

Sent Merit for each other

https://scontent.fhan2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30442854_1850943424918711_8102529273614565376_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=eaca46de8f08f8cffdb08257425d0e11&oe=5B2E95F3
https://scontent.fhan2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30530980_1850943428252044_7660020704368132096_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=dc723b29e4674ea79e95ef10ed01fae3&oe=5B5FEBF6

Lunarics is using ETH address: 0x1072122abc62ba8d7f4B86585F6011619Ba27473 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1350339)

https://scontent.fhan2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30441629_1850963438250043_904727323234795520_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=c8a4469a79b8be3a815248e137a11345&oe=5B5B5EDA

krassy is using ETH address: 0x9D55F24e0268E2EFf65551A6D2186037AccAdDfC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1352631)

https://scontent.fhan2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30442759_1850963424916711_3197709572571660288_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=a0a8289d63b7e8192c16b17164a0cf9c&oe=5B726FAC

zumrarthus is using ETH address: 0xCbB4a153521CeF258394e48eCCD419c667F91603 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2954671.msg31922738#msg31922738)
https://scontent.fhan2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30582389_1850963431583377_3707456670880759808_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=a08342caf3dcee6a673b5de3d22800c1&oe=5B629DF4

All these addresses received ETH from the same ETH address: 0x6989F3f5E70bAC194f2fdC9D607f92083292C624

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x9a5ed7ca76b7e45e420285e3c322fd773443c57cb9a13a7a14adba424ed6696a
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xeb0aef8bfd3b0cbbb310cf1f1984507c2c089bac8a88b4dc226dd3c4e87a9a4c
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x2206d56e9c311cd443c050fd3f9d16844f9d8eabe05078be3d091e0121476e1c

Abused Hero bounty campaign

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MpjvG4WZDrTd7-2yezF21qsQbP9qYzktvfE85oLlcDg/edit#gid=84817019

https://scontent.fhan2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30516457_1851191048227282_2905627615777783808_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=c86ca1e3bf37fbcca2de5879e58d4a18&oe=5B6CA42F
https://scontent.fhan2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30582098_1851191041560616_8584332979688439808_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=d6aef99c5333cf009047f08629e070f4&oe=5B5FAC79
https://scontent.fhan2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30516066_1851191058227281_2946416546525741056_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=7d4d9850b70677f5e16e1ef7ba3c82ce&oe=5B61A96C

Busted? :D


If the poster above me is right in his deduction, the system does work. Merit abusers are falling in their own traps trying to feed their alts. The forum is cleansing itself.
What were you thinking OP? That you will give yourself some merit and then start a thread in meta to whine how the merit system sucks?

I was a member when the Merit system came. Now I'm Full Member and only 101 merit away from the Sr. Member, of course I need the activity too which will take a few months, but it's just a matter of time.

I'm not in hurry, I do not support my family by joining sig. campaigns, you know I have a real good, well paid job. I bought some bitcoin, some time ago and planning to HOLD, and be part of it.

Here I'm mostly for learning and helping the other along the way. If I join any campaigns it's gonna be mostly for use the money for gambling (dice)/ damn its addictive/, so my main point is not to earn money here but to enjoy my time spent here.

Bitcoin is something big, and it will explode in the near future and it will pass the point of no return,just like the Internet did, so enjoy the ride and learn.
;)

90% of people that start merit threads are alts trying to farm merits, the idiots just expose themselves, it's so easy to see, honestly.

That's the key point.  If I were to start a new account right now, there's probably a good chance I'd earn merit even if I didn't say all the same things I say now, and the reason for that (I think) is because I know how to write.  My writing is not perfect, but for a discussion forum like this it at least stands out from the rest of the dreck.  I'm not bragging either, because most users here know way more about crypto than I do and I can't hold a candle to them in terms of technical savvy.

And I certainly did not know Talk merit was an alt of TMAN Jet Cash before I gave the former some merit.  It was the way he wrote and what he said that earned those merit points--which I suspect would be the case if I created a new account.  Same goes for LoyceV, Hilariousandco, Vod, Lauda, and all of the other members who've earned a lot of merit.

In other words, OP's "experiment" would pretty much confirm what I suspect, and I don't see a reason to carry it out.  Nor would we really want someone to drain away all those merits that should be going to real low-ranked members in need of them.

That's a little off topic, could you put it in its own thread or one off the (MANY) threads already on finding members who exchange merits.


Everything on your list is correct other then athe one about LoyceV. I think quite a few of their merits came from their "Pretty Address Giveaway" which is a great service he was offering the forum of bitcointalk. I don't think he'd have been as trusted starting from a newbie.
However, he does spend time around the technical support section so would be like nullius in gaining his merit anyway (without any trust being needed for him).

You don't require a high ranked dude to set an example for yourself to get a merit. You know and its in you that you need to realize. You can get merits as you seem to be finding ways. This is the first step everyone takes here. When you realize that if i post something, will that be worth for merits. This would give you rooms to create and contribute a quality posts. Merits will certainly follow your posts though it at times takes time.

And there you have it, even THE PHARMACIST has told you that this kind of experiment isn't needed, and having busted like that, I think its a shameful thing mate. I thought you already knew that Merit trading is forbidden because you already reached the MEMBER position.

Now that you have been given some answers for this thread I think you should already locked this up for eternity. Various number of high ranking people can easily go up because they're already a quality posters and they do know what to do just to earn Merits from the others. So there would be no problem for them in ranking up.

The kiss of (no merit) death right up here^^.  That phrase will ensure you go on my ignore list, because 1) It burns my retinas, and 2) It's what other moronic shitposters write, all of whom have earned a spot on my ignore list.  I'm thinking of making a list of members who have written something like this, and I suspect a lot of them are alt accounts.

If it turns out to be untrue that this is not my Alt account you are ready for this false accusation and to compensate 10BTC for a lie? I am ready even to these people to contact so that you have paid for your lies. If not then you are a regular spammer and will simply be added to my ignore list and negative trust. my negative trust will be removed after you apologize for your lies. ready even arrange a Skype(my skype: lunarics) conference for someone you showed, if I'm wrong I'll apologize to you.
according to your principal evidence of abuse of merit which ever received the merit falls every 10-20 people on this forum.  
I will repeat again if you look at my statistics message, I have passed the initial path of the beginner and understanding what is the bounty tweet campaign, and left this meaningless thing. If I hadn't gone through this, I wouldn't have understood the whole system. And I don't hide that I've participated in these tweet campaigns.To do this, I even had to study briefly writing scripts in spreadsheets to write a handy table now it is freely available for beginners who have not yet realized what is the tweet campaigns
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3171036.msg32803008#msg32803008
With respect Lunarics

I have to say that I don't care. Your neg trust won't affect to my account :). I just believe in what I see. You and your alt accounts received 0.01ETH from the same ETH address. Joined the same bounty in the pass, HERO bounty campaign and send Merit for each other :). I don't think it's just a coincidence

You are right sir, making this experiment is not necessary at all since we already proved that having a low rank here in the forum is not the problem for not gaining merits, ignorance and poor attitude does.

In my opinion, as long as you know about crypto and not a shitposter here then you have a chance to earn merits. Like in the case of nullius, he was supposed to be only a Full Member according to his activity count (but actually he's a copper member) yet still be able to gain hundreds of merits. Another good example, Hugeblack once became a full member but he is now a Sr. Member.

For you OP, instead of conducting this kind of experiment by calling someone to accept your challenge, why don't you try to accept your own challenge and prove those complainants that merit system is working well.

And if you had a little analysis of the reports of these people indicated that it turned out that Krassy is a women. Before writing and accusing someone then make sure that you exactly think that this is so, and not some clues indirect whatsoever. Here is an example of an explicit alt account which I met here ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3241116 (you can see and laugh at a cheerful person there ;D) ) but I just laughed and it's all up to him that he does alt account

You can be a man, a woman or maybe an alien in this forum if you want :). Nobody know if Krassy is really a girl or not. In this forum, you can have more than 1 account without being tagged but you'll be if you use your alt to ruin campaign in here :). I just believe in what I found in this forum and from ETH addresses I got from your accounts :)). Beside I just wondering why you know Krassy is a woman  ::) ::)