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https://cointelegraph.com/news/2018-mature-crypto-market-will-draw-more-investment-see-less-volatility-analyst-says

Obviously as an investor you understand there are risks but out of all the exchanges out there, i can think of 2-3 that I would personally trust with my money and in my case we are only talking about thousands, imagine a big player with millions using etherdelta or some other retarded exchange, no way that will ever happen. Even big exchanges like bittrex, not long ago, they fucked up and made everyone wait months and months to get your account enabled or verified. Why would any big player invest in crypto when the risk is so huge, there is literally zero safety, any exchange can run away with your money and you can barely do anything.

Even though I do understand your argument, I don't think it's true on the way that you're explaining it here. If you think about it, some big investors may see bitcoins potential - they may see that they're able to make a vast amount of money by investing in bitcoin at any time, I don't think they're going to have to worry too much about regulated Crypto if they simply use a service like BitGo / Coinbase and so on and so forth. Even if this is the wild west, even the wild west had some towns which were pretty civil.

We do need to mature as a market in order to get mass amount of investments, though I don't think we want that.

Not at all times, there are also disadvantages in matured crypto market. For example, some matured crypro markets are centralized and only few coins can exchange. The problem dealing with the centralized and old exchange can change by a new existing one. More over, I think that there is a possibility that all exchanges can intercept or access by hackers. We cannot say that the millionaires are totally depend their investment in just one exchange that is capable to secure and protect their coins.

That is why we keep on telling you that dont invest more than you can lose, dont put all your money on 1 investment. Let's say you invested 1 million and that is all of your money, you invested it in 1 coin which you think a high possibility to get a big bump rate and then suddenly the price go dip and you looses all your money it will surely break your life.

For me if you are going to invest big amount its better to trust bitcoin because its value can decrease but it will surely never die.

It is only a matter of time before cryptocurrency and blockchain technology become mainstream. Hundreds of billions of dollars poured into the local economy. The investment in cryptocurrency is borderless, and the standard encryption market will attract investors from all over the world.

I doubt that really big investors looking to catch hold of enough BTC would do it through exchanges only. They may as well pass the burden to some investment manager who will find the best OTC or P2P deals for them. There goes the risk that you mention.

Exchanges like Bittrex seem to be suitable mostly for alt-trading. I think we have seen just one cycle of investor influx yet. Clearly the exchanges weren't ready for it. This lull period has given them time to incorporate things like SegWit, Transaction Batching and hopefully time to increase headcounts so that they can actually manage investors.

Again, Why would anyone looking to invest millions go for Etherdelta. Isn't it the place where anyone can list a similar sounding contract and scam you straight?

In my observation on millionaires strategy toward bitcoin or crypto investments.. They don’t handle the investment on there own.. They have staff doing the work for them,, they also don’t have one only exchange policy.. They’re using multiple addresses on cashing out.. Diversify there coins in many wallets and on popular exchanges..

Binance will give you better security than other exchanges that I’ve ever used.. No major issues and complaints that I’ve heard so far..

No, not many big investors are worried about the current risks of many scams, surely big investors are more cautious in investing some money especially for bitcoin, there is nothing to worry about if they process it well, there will be no loophole for loss or fraud .

I understand that statement and it's true, all of the investors need a secure investment where they can control their funds and scammer can't bother them, for now the crypto world is like wild wild west, if you got scammed there's  no way you can track and get your money back, if there are regulation that can prevent that to happened then crypto will gained more trust and more trust will equal to more investors investing their fund

I believe that many rich investors have already an analyst and marketing personnel who can give an anticipation and risks for their investment or capital. Millionaires are not fool to lend their money in an exchange that can easily enter by hackers. That's why they are millionaires because they know what is good and bad for their investment.

Its just waiting when big investor realizing their investment on cryptomarket. If that really happen, billions dollar will entering market and will boost market cap and maybe can reach highest market cap before.

Totally agree even if not reading the full text!

Some exchanges allow you to cash out up to 2 btc limit every day without the hassle long verification and KYC stuff it is big money for normal investors, that's why a lot of people here will say it is better to store and diversify your coin on a wallet that you own the private key or can store on an offline environment like trezor, ledger nano s and other alternatives storage, send some specific coins that you want to trade to the exchanges do not expose all your crypto assets on a hot storage.

Most of the exchange you're talking about was used as an exchanger for tokens while big investors only tend to convert flat into bitcoin and i agreed that regulation in crypto market was made to guarantee safety into these investors account and if we're trying to look into the future of crypto then its obvious that safety concern about their investment is top priority.

Because etherdelta is a decentralized exchange running on a smart contract. Isn't that what people brag about when they talk about cryptos, DECENTRALIZED!! they say and yet no one uses etherdelta or the other few real decentralized exchanges because they are garbage.

''however any fraud perpetrated or operational mistakes on the exchange would be unwound by the participants or covered by the brokers and their insurance'' Not something that happens with crypto exchanges.

Someone using bittrex at that time could have lost millions if they had their account blocked.

Most of the decentralized exchanges have been trading alts whose value is hard to justify.

The time when decentralized exchanges can be a norm hasn't come yet. A competitive, truly decentralized exchange which can trustlessly manage fiat conversion isn't available yet as the main problem of initial funding is unsolved. If its funding with fiat then we are back to the problem of relying on banks.

An established currency like bitcoin could have been the obvious solution if bitcoin generation hadn't become so centralized already. An ideal situation would have been for bitcoin to become established as a p2p currency first and the alts should have boomed afterwards.

The booming of alts without bitcoin maturity and distribution has been a clear step backward for the crypto space.

While I pretty much agree with your point, I really do not think that this alone will hinder big investors from investing big funds on the crypto industry. I mean, I just can't see that happening. You see, this industry is breathing out the word risks and is living by it, everyone surely does know that and with these exchanges having these minimal risks, I don't think that it will beat the risks of investing on cryptos alone. Trust me man, when the markets go bullish again, big investors will jump into the game faster than you can blink.

Why would we want big investors? Like really... More whales coming in? How's that a positive thing?
We're now talking about how cryptocurrencies would only be useful for speculative purposes as opposed to monetary usage, which is what Cryptocurrencies were invented for, after all.

Of course, a mature and regulated Crypto-market, especially with less volatility, would have a very positive influence on mass-adoption, since people wouldn't be scared to lose 50% of their money overnight all of a sudden... But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about the speculative results.

And the speculative results would be negative. If you want low volatility, just go to the stock market. Cryptocurrencies are a more risky, more rewarding and more exciting alternative to the regular stock market. From a trader's point of view, we shouldn't want to change that, should we?

Yes, regulation means that there is more room for control for the government, and more interest from big investors.

But it's not needed. Even if there aren't institutional investors from traditional investment banks or whatnot investing in crypto, there is no problem.

Whatever they want to do is out of our reach. They could invest in the current crypto market, even without sufficient regulation. But the thing is, neither big investors nor regulation from the government is needed for bitcoin or other crypto to succeed. Big investors are most likely not going to invest directly into cryptocurrencies anyways. Instead, they may invest in crypto Fintech startups as angel investors, etc.

If cryptocurrency being regulated to attract big fish then it is fine with me as long as it can benefits the small investors as well. The more the investors the healthier the market. I hope they only regulating just to attract more investors and not controlling it.

It wasn't whales that pushed the price to 20k, it was dumb people coming to bitcoin and buying at whatever price because of FOMO. Big investors know how to mange their stocks, they won't enter retarded positions and they won't sell to crash the market on purpose, I'd rather have serious investors than kids and people wanting to get rich quick, they are the ones that also pushed the price down, panicking at every dip.

I think the only kind of exchanger that will run away with your money are those that are… well, you already know scams when you see them. I don’t believe that well know exchangers with a good reputation online will do such. I don’t know why bitter has been acting that way recently, I’m just guessing that maybe they have a lot of investors, maybe that’s the reason they have not been able to carry out and maintain their platform the way they should.

But we no need to keep our funds in the exchanges,so our funds will be safe forever in our wallets.I think already there are lots of millionaires involved in cryotocurrency investment but they never reveal their identify because the main advantage of cryotocurrency is anonymity so they can be anonymous and make money.

This are true identity of Exchange to even the most truthful exchange is not safe to entrust your money with them but than investors are risk takers,if the time and unforseen occurrence be fall during investment with any exchange we take it in good faith and move ahead,life itself is a jungle.But the wise act is to keep investment safe out of exchange.

if that happens then more and more people join cryptocurrency, with increasingly large capital it will increase cryptos price, so it can be like last year, many people were amazed by btc price, so many of them are joining. besides that with regulation of the government think will increase new investors trust

"Regulators are not banning the development of cryptocurrencies, but are trying to better...". Yea, I agree for this sentence. It useful to make it beter and better. So we can still use, invest, and trade it. It could push the scammers, so investor feel more safe to change their money into this asset.

Regulators did not prohibit development of encryption currency, but rather try to better regulate the market, which should help the maturity of the industry, if the regulatory position becomes clearer, large funds will be more at ease, and willing to invest a lot of money.

Was Mt.gox a scam when you saw it? Plenty of other big exchanges got either ''hacked'' or stole users money, you are not safe at all. Mt.gox was literally the biggest and most trusted exchange and still fucked everyone. You are naive to think that big exchanges won't scam or get hacked. The issue is that when they do, there is no safety plan for you, your insurance wont pay for it, they wont pay for it, no one will and you are going to be screwed.

Most times I just think of buying coins that have their sperate wallets so that I can just transfer direct to the wallet to avoid leaving my coins to an exchange. In fact,  if an exchange folds up and can no longer get into operations, the investor's money is gone and he can't be indemnified because of lack of regulation.

Even if they even want to do, it does not necessarily have to be via exchanges, and they can easily just do that over the counter. However, I am not very sure how the bigger players or institutional investors operate but I assume any sane one who really wants to invest or believe in the idea of cryptocurrency will not be leaving their assets on an exchange.

Regulation however, I believe will usher in a new era for the market as we start to start seeing things being done differently even across exchanges and that would obviously make a lot of things change as we see the bigger players having some level of confidence in entering the market.

Since bitcoin is on the market it has a big impact that has been so significant to all investors but not easily attract to invest in cryptocurrency because there are risk but some other investors are beat the risk with their luck in just a blink they will get the awesome value of their benefits.

Well there are big players in the market, they just probably don't use exchanges. Instead they probably facilitate offline trades OTC instead of using crappy exchanges. Not until the exchanges are smooth and regulated do I think we will get the big players. I don't want regulation but if that is what it takes for tons of money to pour in then I am 100% for regulation.

Maybe theres big investors that might have second thought about investing when this issue is concerned ,its really not easy to entrust our money in exchanges that can just run away taking our money and we can do nothing,but this is not happening only in crypto,this can happen in real life,and even banks can do this so theres really no safe place for our money if we wanted to gain from invesing.so better take a risk of gain nothing at all

It was also those same dumb people who pushed bitcoin's price down the gutter when they realized they already made a fortune from their initial investments. Now, they are blaming whales for the manipulation of market's price, though they have a factor in some way or another, but what they don't realize is that they also contributed a huge percentage in the downfall in the market.

That is true, big players and institutional investors won't get in without some guarantees a.k.a. regulations.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, the only reason we had such a big pump and such a big dump was because of dumb money. Big investors and experienced investors wont push the price up like idiots and wont panic either, that's the growth bitcoin needs.

Insecure , yeah that's the biggest problem . But you know that when it comes to storing huge amount of money online you would always faced by this kind issue.
So doesn't really matter if you aware about the money amount that you can afford to lose , you would start investing in crypto. Then the real problem are in you. Big money come when people interested to help the project develop, that's what supposed to become a reason.

I agree most were dumb people but they weren't dumb because they were buying bitcoins. Most of them were buying crypto with credit cards. They didn't want to risk their own money. Instead, they wanted to risk the bank's money which was one big ass mistake. Much dumber than risking your own money.

I bought some at $15.8k but I don't care. It was my money and I gladly spent it on btc. Now I'm hodling like a boss without any worries instead of getting fucked by the banks.  8)

you don't understand TRUSTLESS? look it up... satoshi spoke about it... it's a great concept.

Well that is obvious, the only thing that is holding cryptocuurency market from evolving and attracting bigger investors is its nature, see cryptocuurency is unstable because it is not regulated, and not being regulated decentralized and uncontrollable is what makes it so unique and popular, if cryptocurrency was or gets regulated it will be as good as investing in real currencies like usd or euro and it wouldn't be as profitable as it is right now.

put the federal reserve in charge of the protocol and the coin supply... ohhh no you can't lol...

thanks for your concise reply shenzou... those state propagandists are so dumb...

this is true, but we are moving towards this type of market, you say. So one of the potential factor of bitcoin growth is predicted with entering this investors here.

All investors are aware about their investment they make sure that its secure because once they had invested in a bad project they cannot get back their money so they are looking for a matured and trusted project to invest with.

Regulated by what? Until now there is no final decision in some country about their side on cryptocurrency but I believe big investors will come if the project is good and a good example for this is bitcoin. Regulation may come later on but the situation will remain the same, we are still heading to the top.

I guess you are wrong that only mature and regulated crypto can attract investors. Knowing that there are emerging ICO and that is a better way to invest and it has a bigger chance of getting higher revenue. Talking about the risks in those ICO will also have a bigger return.

Yeah people trust make crypto currency  stay and even more aggressive today because it is risky of course trusting any treading site which is no assurance of returns  but they still trustworthy because  they don't want to betrayed their investors.

I see people here talking about regulations as they're a bad thing for crypto and about decentralization. I won't say anything more about crypto regulations because they're, actually, good and I'm all for it. Now, let's be honest, decentralization probably won't be the future for the most cryptos. Bitcoin as the first one, went with the decentralization and as a currency, now we can see that that currency part is slowly going away.

As countries and private businesses are developing their own crypto, centralization of them is unavoidable. Tho, I just may be wrong.


Crypto regulations will help the crypto-market, period.

I did accept this notion as the market becomes more stable, people who have been having doubts about the Cryptocurrency markets can now start gaining some level of confidence to step in and test the waters. As it now compares with the stock/financial markets that they already know. The bigger the Investors the more the acceptability and durability of the Cryptocurrency market.

The most important thing is that the market should become more resistant to volatility, and this is something we badly need in order to give people the incentive they need to finally start spending their coins.

Bitcoin will always be subject to more growth, but in the future the growth we'll be experiencing is steady and doesn't come and go in massive shock waves like how things have been last year till where we are right now.

If people at that point also get a part of their salary paid out in Bitcoin, they will have even more incentive to spend their coins, especially when merchants all over the world start adopting LN to allow fast and ultra cheap payments.

Professional capital brings in much needed liquidity, which is the way to a better form of stability, at least 1000 times better than what we have now.

I think we are starting to see the first wave of institutional involvement in this space. 

Pension funds, college endowments and other asset managers control trillions of dollars of capital so once the flood gates open its going to cause prices to surge. 

Here's an interesting article on this topic:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/12/this-could-be-the-year-big-investors-such-as-endowments-finally-buy-into-cryptocurrencies.html

I would expect to see a large increase in institutional investment over the next 6-12 months. 

As with any investment, you want to be invested before the whales jump in and cause prices to surge. 

And that's what everyone fails to see: a regulated market will have the power to attract all kinds of fishes as long as the incentive remains present, in which case, is happening. No one privately owns the whole of bitcoin, so even in a regulated market, pumps and dumps will still happen no matter what happens or how strict exchanges can be. Most investors come in and play in the cryptomarket due to the volatility it offers and how crazy everything can go in a short span of time. Some are afraid to take risks because the cryptomarket isn't a regulated trading space yet, so it holds them back on getting that paper out of their wallet.

But still,most investors love such a high volatile market and that's the reason for why cryptos attracted considerable volume of people despite lack of regulation.

Yeah but, the point of cryptocurrencies is not to be volatile or profitable, the point of them is to be consistent and stable like normal currencies. Satoshi originally wanted bitcoin to be another currency, that's never going to happen if it stays volatile, no matter what.

Hi,

I completely agree with you.

The point is that this market can get rid of regulation authority. This is why the biggest, traditionnal investors should never invest here. The idea isn't to turn bitcoin into another traditionnal currency. I understand that we need more and more people but the limit is... hard to make I think. Because if bitcoin is "overly" spreaded, well, it may turn into something completely useless, definitely gutted of its initial purpose.

Bitcoin is not supposed to be merely a digital currency. The idea was to create a whole new system, so why would we bother with traditionnal investors?

It is a decentralized world where anyone can decide to keep their funds in their wallet, but I understand most institutional investors may need a safe spot to always keep their funds and once in a while trade with it which is understandable and that is where the idea of regulation comes in and that would only leave some exchanges to be more trusted than the others.

all the above, a mature market would actually usher in a lot that would have gotten rid of the smaller players from the market which is what I feel we are about getting into pretty soon.

This is quite true and the lack of this regulation in the crypto market is solely responsible for the so much distrust. The absence of regulation has also enabled so many scams both in the ICOs and the already traded coins that aren't regulated. Developers and their teams in so many cases have run away with public funds and ended up destroying fragile trusts in this budding market. So, it will make a lot of sense as a strong case for regulation so as to stabilize this industry like we already have in the stocks and Forex Trading.

It is true at some point. Many big investors see bitcoin as a huge risk. But i think they will still invest because they need not put their money in an exchange. You can stoee your bitcoins in a cold storage and let it sit there and waiyt for the last bitcoin to be mined and then price goes up due to high demand for bitcoin. Then your investment is worthy knowing you earned so much if you decide to sell it.

Agreed. However, the best regulation for the industry must come from within – made for the industry by the industry players. The cryptocurrency craze and the boom of Altcoins today is akin to the gold rush in California and Montana in the 1800s. And just as those gold mining communities set their social orders and fair commercial norms which attracted investors from around the world the Crypto industry should act likewise and self regulate.

Its true about the volatility issue, well its not practically issue for most of them but an opportunity to earn money with it! However I do feel that there should be a market which will be pretty stable than the current one and thus can get many merchants, people, government services on board so that they can use it for the betterment of their own products and services as well as help bitcoin grow itself. This could be win win situation thus making it grow further and this is what a mature market would look like and provide the title that it will bring more and more big investors in the future. So at least some of them should take the risk and show the rest that bitcoin works just fine for them.

I think it can be trusted if a market with a very high level of security such as bittrex has a stringent verification system and has long existed for exchanges,all activities are at risk you should be aware of it if you do not want to lose your money then you have to withdraw every day if you play in trading but it is very troublesome in my opinion.

Big investors are a big risk taker too but then they need security too. Being matured and regulated cryptoccurency attracts more investors and they are confident about their investment and they will know how well their risk and reward be properly managed. It is not all about maturity but it is all about security, bitcoin be it known that it is already mature in the market but still didn't have enough assurance on how seocure is your investment.

first of all bittrex never fucked up anything. they simply scammed a lot of their users, closed their accounts and stole their funds.

secondly this topic is the difference between an investor and a trader. a trader is someone who uses exchanges and needs to trust them, for them the "market" has to be regulated so that they can trust it easier and invest their money.
an investor however is someone who simply buys. for example someone who has been buying (accumulating) bitcoin for years without even using any exchanges! you can always meat face to face with someone and do the trade and it is pretty common to do it this way actually. for them "market" being regulated or not doesn't matter they just need to trust and believe in the technology.

The main point for me as user is the exchange keep running and provide more transaction volume and more user that use the exchange.
I knew poloniex and bittrex 4 years ago and they keep exist until now , it means that they have proof themself as high caliber of crypto exchange because not many exchange able survive like them (Mintpal collapse )

We all are very aware of this fact that the market value of any of the crypto coin is greatly dependent on the demand of that crypto coin in the international market and that the demand of most of the crypto coins is increasing very much significantly as more number of people are getting to know more about these crypto coins. You need to make an investment as soon as possible before the market values rises higher.

No one ever started being excellent and mature. We all started as beginners, and we are sharpened by good and bad experiences leading us to be a better and learned individual and organization. Despite crypto's volatility and young economy, I don't think it's a hindrance for us to attract investors. There are still a lot of factors to be considered aside from its maturity and regulation. How about keeping its morale and reputation strong and efficient. After all what matters is the service and sincerity we provide.

And also there is one thing that could be the possibility of why big investors do not want to jump into the markets. We need to remember that cryptocurrencies are highly speculative assets, so that is why big investor play it carefully.

Let’s just give a look at the main reason behind creation of bitcoin. Millionaires were facing problem in transacting money. They had to pay high charges for this service and it was also not fast. There was a need of something that can help them to transfer real big amounts within moments across the world without going through all rules and regulations of banks. Bitcoin was the answer and rich people highly supported this concept.

Do they though? You think they would trust bitcoin with that? I don't think so. Maybe criminals but millionaires are certainly not using crypto to transfer large amounts of money. 1 little mistake and all your money is gone, take too long and 10 million becomes 9, too many problems.

That's true, maybe. But how it can be efficiently regulated?  That's the biggest issue.

I think for big investors they have a better option to purchase things over the counter if they are planning to invest in large numbers and they wont necessarily go to any exchanges to invest these huge amounts, yes there are many risks involved in keeping your coins in an exchange as there are many hacks which took all the users investment and we need to have a change in that without a doubt, the exchanges must be responsible for our investment.

The exchanges must be held responsible for the loss they make and the investors need to be settled as soon as possible, which means that they should be a mandatory insurance scheme for the exchanges, KYC will be strictly implemented and these are the regulations i expect to see implemented and sure a regulated market could attract more investors.

it is true that the implementation of KYC has now begun to be applied by some exchanges for the security of transactions and many exchanges have started to improve security system and register on the side of insurance to maintain customer funds

This is because matured and regulated cryptos will attract investors for this investors can have a big trust to this cryptos , it is already stable and monitored and will have a good future for their money who invested on them.

While in a way you are right that no person with common sense and with a lot of money is going to invest and put his money in an exchange that could disappear immediately if he did so, at the same time it is not like exchangers are the only way to get bitcoins or any other cryptocurrency, you can deal with people directly and buy bitcoins to a whale.

Well, cryptos are new, everything surrounding them is new, we really just have to experiment with it. I just want governments to be more flexible and if the initial regulations turn out to not work, change them, modify them until everyone is satisfied. I wish governments would do that with everything really but admitting that you failed is hard.

I have to disagree with your statement because investors want to make big money. And if you want to make big money, then you have to take a certain risk. We mostly only hear about the negative things and scams and rarely about the billions people have already made. Where else could you have made thousands of percent winning rates so easy and so quick like in the crypto currency market?

yes,regulating market will of course lure a lot of Big investors and companies ,But also we'll lose the leverage of the decentralize concept which all this industry is Built on.Besides,they will control the price and small investors will Be destroyed!

That is why we need stability in price and we are to work hard to achieve that! Unless bitcoin prices is stable we would not going to have large adoption. We are having many issues especially the volatility of the market and regulations and that means this is no maturity in cryptocurrency market and for big financial players to come into this market price must be stable.

We and investors are comfortable with the price of the volatile cryptocurrency. Because the main fact to get a big profit is price volatility. Investors will dare to take risks because they already know a big profit, it is comfortable to invest in cryptocurrency.

The government's regulation on each exchange is a plus to increase revenue. Risks will always exist despite government regulation being applied. The online system (internet) is very likely hacked by hackers and we have to be prepared for it.

Regulation is an additional value that increases investor confidence in cryptocurrency. Although without regulation, users of cryptocurrency and investors will remain comfortable because with the crypto can always benefit by the volatilization of the price of a sudden volatility. They believe it will happen someday including me.

Well, you can say that, but then again, maturity is always an important virtue not only in business but in many things. If one would not be thorough and careful with his ventures, especially when it involves money, then for certain, it will lead to nothing but losses. Especially in this market where there are so many volatile and ever-changing aspects, it's not advisable to actually do your ventures without studying things through. There are so many alleys to make your ventures go south, so it's part of the maturity aspect to see through the bad and come out with the good.

Many exchanges have been operating for a long time and have gained a good reputation. But occasionally even these exchanges to block the accounts and is required to provide them additional documents. I don't like that. This is contrary to the idea of creating a cryptocurrency. But the community does not boycott such exchanges. This is a bad thing. Calls for additional regulation is a war against cryptocurrency users.

I believe that without regulation it is better. Since the authorities will want to limit or even prohibit the free sale of cryptocurrencies and also take our money through taxation.

Yes i do agree on that, the investors today are looking on the platform before investing a huge amount because investing is also risky if you are not well knowledgeable about how the market works.

The main idea in the cryptomarket is not to trust any one with your money.
We should only rely on decentralized markets, where you actually have zero chances of getting your funds stolen.
The only problem is that most of the people got used to have their funds being managed by other people, and they fear of decentralized exchange as an exploit may lead to losing the funds, but only time will bring trust.

Very simple, those investors want to have even more money and they find an opportunity to make it possible by investing in crypto. They are willing to take the risk despite of the hazard because money is everything for them (of course for us too).

The best thing for those big investors to do and also for small ones like us is to not let our money stock in an exchange whether it is the most trusted one or not because the tendency of loosing is always there. Much better if you just convert your coins through it and withdraw as soon as you're done then place it on your wallet or cold storage if too huge. :)

I had been reiterating the same posts throughout my posts. We need trust to build up so big names can enter this market. But, contrary to this opinion, we did see a lot of big names entering the market. Not too long ago the wall street had entered the market too and everything looked positive back then. It was only after big names withdrew that we saw a steep downfall. Maybe in a couple of years the market would rise again, you never know.

So who are we calling "whales" now? Because there is already market control with only them controlling the market? Can you imagine big foreign investors pouring in and out there money in the cryptocurrency market? They know that this market could be easily manipulated and that is what they are doing now. Some of them are trading cryptocurrency secretly now and I am not surprise if they all have their personal accounts with Binance or something. They don't need some kind of new regulation to enter the market, they can enter now and exploit it.

I think that the "whales" are different. Many groups of the large investors are on the global crypto exchange market today. And every group wants to pump and dump the prices of crypto currencies to get the maximal profit. Perhaps, they negotiate with each other, in order to commit their trading actions simultaneously, but the resulting profit should be divided honestly. In addition, there is no consensus between the international groups of the "whales".

In my opinion, big player must be want to enter cryptomarket because market cap on cryptomarket still low. If compare on January 2018, market cap right now 60% lower than highest at 790billions dollars.
Big finance institution already entering cryptomarket like goldman sachs buying one largest cryptomarket poloniex and I am believe that followed by others big investment firm.

If the comparative figures at this time are unreasonable. Because, we have seen for many years, the value of bitcoin always fluctuate in the direction of moving down with the market capitalization is continuously going down in the first months of the year. It is not losing popularity and really a huge community of investors from the stock market has moved to cryptocurrency. When the market grows again. I think the market cap will surpass 790 billion.

I agree with you on the maturity part (and even on regulation part up to some extent) but I support the first aspect and not the second one when it comes to attracting investments. I believe that we should build a strong user base instead of focusing on the big whales as we are all fans of decentralization and hence putting efforts on building mass awareness instead of attracting big whales should be our top priority in my honest opinion.

Regulation is coming in hence why we are starting to see institutional investors about to move into Crypto.

Personally I think the future of crypto will be with big institutional investors and raising capital will be done like this project.

https://medium.com/@Michael_Spencer/kevin-oleary-wants-crypto-tokens-for-nyc-hotel-at-400-million-21bb66f9ac82

I think majority or mostly big investors are drawn more to strong and well established currencies in the market. With or without
regulation, investors have been flocking and investing with crypto. Regulation insures security and with that crypto would be more
attractive to certain people who desire assurance with investments. But being regulated will also make it less decentralized, this
will have drawbacks surely for a lot people and investors. Stability might come knocking next, heavy and big investors will change
the game and will bring something good and new to the cryptocurrency market. Well known currencies will surely be in favor.

The same happens and venture capital investment, there are great risk of losing their means, but people and the whole venture capital funds invest in a new, but very promising project. This is connected to the fact that venture investing gives you the opportunity to earn big money. Investment in crypto foreign Exchange market also provide an opportunity to get more profit, it is and attracts large investors in cryptocurrencies, in spite of the large risks to earn big money.

''also take our money through taxation.'' Well, you have to pay taxes, that's how it works, if no one paid any tax for anything the system would collapse. People here seem to think that taxes are a theft. Sure sometimes they go overboard with them like in poland with the recent tax regulation for trading cryptos but overall it's needed.

According to a number of market insiders, better cryptocurrency regulation attracts institutional investors. Media reports stated earlier last week, that George Soros, an Hungarian – American investor has officially inked the Soros Fund Management’s permission slide to trade cryptocurrencies.

then before investing we have to think about some strategies. It is important to know and fully understand the knowledge of Cryptocurrency itself. Always put it in your mind that you should never invest money in something you do not understand and recognize. always remember that the crypto market has a very high volatility rate, the movement of its value can happen very quickly and beat the trading logic that has been known.

It still depend on the project or vision of the cryptocurrency if it will going to attract big investors because big investors are already in the cryptocurrency market even there is no regulation and they are enjoying it because that is a fast profit for them and that is the reason for them to keep doing cryptocurrency because as long as there is no regulation then they have freedom.

I don’t see any difference between the large investors or their groups and whales. It’s one or the same thing. Whale is a term that is used to represent those people that can change the fate of digital market by making some moves. Big selling and buying effect the value of any coin greatly and this is the role that big guys play here. Moreover, they are keeping the digital market alive.

Maybe you can assume that both whales and big investors are the same thing but however by the mature and regulated crypto market they will have the courage to put an even bigger money into the crpytocurrencies, they don't want to risk their money because the lack of regulation so it's what distinguish a "real big investors" with whales.
Also venture company tend to invest into a more regulated things that those without regulation.

But isn't this is the crypto where nothing is so sure and you can not make proof of stake depending upon what they say when they are developing the projects or market place itself. Its all about the uncertainty of the projects in the crypto which should be more or less depending upon which you can just make your decision whether you want to invest or not. I am the guy who always work on the principle of risk assessment and there is nothing like mature market or regulated one. Thats the personal experience talking about the whole scene here. Believe me I have tried to search investments which you are depicting here but nothing was worth spending time on to.

The biggest attraction for the investors to invest is the nature of the investment they are trying to enter. Of course maturity and regulations are to consider that's why they are attracted with this kind of cryptocurrency hoping that their investment will hopefully earn bigger profit in the future.

Yeah i agree to that, there are a lot of big project ico's today who are earning a huge amount of investors because of their promising platform and some of the ico's are failing to sold all their coins because they lack effort.

Of course, investing in crypto-currencies is a risk, and big players understand this. But also you can earn a lot. I think you exaggerate the problems with exchanges, since it does not prevent anyone from earning millions of dollars with the help of crypto currency.

It is a common conviction that you only invest your money into any of the crypto currency when you are quite sure that your money will not be lost and that you will end up making some very good amount of profit. You cannot ask anyone to invest in that coin which has nothing to give to the ones who have invested their money into it and that bitcoin needs to do lot of hard work as well to have bigger investors.

Exaggeration? I don't think so. Mt-gox was the biggest and most trusted exchange and what happened? Hundreds of thousands of bitcoins lost. Many other famous exchanges eventually turned out to be scams or got ''hacked''. If you are a solo investor and you see that, how confident can you really be in any exchange when you have literally 0 guarantees? Sure binance looks solid but is it really?

Now it's too early to talk about a real mature market. while he is at the stage of formation. Perhaps the absence of investment whales on it is good for the market.

I feel your point, but no big investor who is really sane enough will want to leave their funds directly on an exchange anyway if they are serious about investing. Nevertheless, I am sure as the market keeps growing, a lot of things would have changed anyway and since we are beginning to see a lot of exchanges trying to readjust to policies and being regulated, this may also be changing the mindset of the bigger players.

Yeah, just a matter of time, and we are beginning to see the possibilities gradually with the way things are changing pretty fast. Also. Regulation is one thing that would also cause a lot of things to change with exchanges and how that has been playing out recently even with bittrex should have been sending some messages.

I am sure the idea of regulation would make some bigger players to start having confidence and we may start seeing some new huge money being ushered into the space.

Big financial intitution already in market, and we can see it goldman sachs buying poloniex. Regulation just matter of time and when regulation comes out, market capitalitation will be more bigger than previous high. Its still good opportunity if we want to invest in cryptomarket

And no big investor would want to hold their coins in their wallet when the price can swing 20% in a day. Any big trader would need to hold his coins in an exchange, otherwise it's impossible to trade. At the end of the day what we really need is normal people to use cryptocurrencies and adoption.

Yes that’s true. I don’t know what really happened to Bitter or why they are making people wait for months before getting their accounts activated. Maybe they have a lot of members and it’s getting hard for them to handle. If that’s the issue, then they are no good at all and should close down sign up for new users. A market that is not well regulated won’t attract bigger investors, cause people are looking for something even more reliable than that.

The question is how good for the market will be the influx of large investors. Now the market is still young and can develop in any direction. It is not excluded that the biton will replace the dollar and become the world currency standard. If corporate whales sail to the crypto-sea, they will dictate their own development rules.

I can understand that Crypto exchange holds some level of risk in trading with them and also sharing our hard earned money in their trading accounts, and there is also risk in sharing our KYC and other important details with them because they don't have some regulating bodies controlling the exchanges for example like ASIC, FSA, NFA governing the forex trading exchanges and controlling their operations and service under the rules and regulations. I think the mature and big investors will feel safe in investing in the crypto market only if it gets regulated by the respected countries rule & regulations and I can see many countries like India are planning to regulate them.

I think not all big investors and big players are always afraid of the risk, they want to challenge and want to try to face the risk but not rash of most investors if playing in a place that does not have a very high security is reluctant to play there with a lot of capital, so I think it depends on how investors respond to that risk.

There are ico's today who are just scamming different investors in the market and they are leaving without a trace after they earn a huge amount of profit, the best thing to do is always look for the road if they are qualified for your endeavor before investing a huge amount.

This is true , any mature person will calculate all the risks like one associated with safety of exchange. But there are ways to enhance security like using a physical wallet.

Cryptocurrency trading is risky activity of trading so you already aware the risk.
By doing the trading, you've understand the risk so all you can do is minimalize the risk by trading not more than you can afford to loss.
Human are greed and it's become they nature to earn more and more but only you can help yourself !

The risk of exchanges exit scamming, getting hacked, etc. can easily be negated by not keeping your coins on exchange - even active traders can just move coins in and out every time they want to do a trade.

Next, the term "big investors" can be kinda ambiguous, because I'm sure there's a lot of big companies and rich individuals who invest into Bitcoin with relatively small amounts, which in their case means millions. Regulation itself is not needed for Bitcoin's financial success, we just need it to have well-defined legal status so big players won't feel the risk that it might be banned some day by some major western government like the US or EU.

If an investor is jumping into this river without having any knowledge regarding bitcoin and the nature of digital market, he would be dead earlier than anyone can imagine. It is the most challenging market one can involve into at the moment. Tackling with volatility is not a kid’s game. But the digital market has many big whales, especially bitcoin.These people control the value from time to time.

I must say that most of the crypto coins are good when it comes to that of investing of money and that there are so many investors who are investing a huge capital into those coins as they do know that doing so will help them in making them richer and that they will then be able to make more money as well. This crypto market is getting better day by day and that it is gaining the attention of more investors.

Regulated by what? Until now there is no final decision in some country about their side on cryptocurrency but I believe big investors will come if the project is good and a good example for this is bitcoin. Regulation may come later on but the situation will remain the same, we are still heading to the top. Bitcoin is the real thing for all,  even for those living at Wall Street. hehe

There is no market that does not have risk one way or the other even with regulation, so it is a risk they already know and I am sure some of them are in this market already. I feel though that the market cap is still a lot low to not expect some sort of volatility as it is, so until then, we should not even be expecting any matured market.

Yes, I understand that the OP's plight is that regulation would usher in some of the big players which is true as we would end up seeing new ones and the old would invest more, which would bring better days ahead and a larger market cap, but until then.

That is a big question, who will regulate bitcoins and will they be partial at it. I do not think that developers ever wanted this to happen and block chain is exactly designed in away that it cannot be regulated. No doubt. countries can try to regulate with additional taxes but that will result in chaos and smart investors will find loopholes to skip this.

Regulations and other systems could not only prove good when done in a strict manner but they could also make cryptos more acceptable in the eyes of the government.
It could be treated as a currency and could really make it big .. but then again setting up a regulatory body will take lots of time and money and.. offcourse people who are in this for long because I don't think governments Should be given the chance to do so. Because we all know they are dominated by the banks and we all know how bad it could go.

I think that the banking system has always influenced the market, because they were the subject of market relations. But I think that for the investor it will always be better to know that his investments will be insured and that the project that he invested money will also have good prospects.

Basically everyone has lost some money in the cryptosphere because of a hack or exit scam of some exchange, we have had like 4 major exchange scams/hacks. Even if you keep your money out of exchanges, it's still risky and that only works if you don't want to trade but it's definitely not the best option. Watching your portfolio go down 20% each day is not something anyone wants to see but you can't have stop losses in your personal wallet.

Although your argument is understandable I can't get myself to agree with it. Many investors (especially big ones) see that bitcoin has potential. If investors are willing to invest big money into crypto i am positive they are willing to invest time to make sure exchanges are done safely and they do their best to reduce scam. There are also services like Coinbase which are ran by the government allowing them to exchange bitcoin and other cryptos safely. Exchanges really don't have a high fee either, so there's no excuse not to use one.

That’s true, and I have seen that on a several occasions where an exchanger went bankrupt and happened to close down, leaving investors worried and lots of people losing their hard earned money, and so many plans ruined. The best advice I will give you is not to rely on all these exchangers for storing your coins, cause they are not 100% reliable for that. You can only store money you want to use for trade on exchangers and leave the rest in a very secured wallet/’s. That’s the only way you’re staying safe.

That hasn't stopped investors from investing in cryptomoney so far. They are in a profit strategy and today, I do not know if we can have such ROI in other areas...
It's obvious that a regulated crypto-market would be a very good sign and would encourage all  types of investors, but it's not a drag on investments

Very much early. For us to start thinking of a matured market; our market capitalization would have gotten pretty huge and by then you will not just see a single person dwindling the price just anyhow but for now, it is something we will just have to keep living with until we get to see that day come.

Nevertheless, regulation will of course make more bigger investors to want to get into the market and have a solid position which since they are more experienced in making a market, we may get to see a matured market.

Regulators did not prohibit development of encryption currency, but rather try to better regulate the market, which should help the maturity of the industry, if the regulatory position becomes clearer, large funds will be more at ease, and willing to invest a lot of money.

Investment has to be very risky in order to give you profit. Otherwise if there exists something that's stable to invest, then everyone would take loan and invest.
Cryptocurrency mustn't be regulated, it has to be undecentralized and non goverment has to change things. In reality it can't be regulated, believe me.
If one exchanger sucks, then other will come with better features.

yes of course, the reason why ico's need campaigns is to promote their platform and investors will look the road map if their project do really have a potential to surpass the prices of every ico in the market.

there is a possibility that they have a faster profit expectation. but I think they will also see how the potential and risks are followed.

No its not true. you know mate , there were still lots of invesment out there (outside the crypto world ) and most of them are not risky at all but they can still give you a profit although it is not big as when compared to cryptocurrencies.


Yes there is. as i mentioned above earlier. There were lots of them and they can be found mainly offline . They are stable and there were lots of people investing on them but  then again , the profit that you can get thru them , is only small.



First of all , cryptocurrencies arent regulated but why there were still lots of people who constantly invest on it? Regulated or not , crypto will still attract investors as long as there is still a potential to earn an income on it

More confirmation for what I said: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/25/nasdaq-is-open-to-becoming-cryptocurrency-exchange-ceo-says.html

Nasdq CEO said they are open to become a cryptocurrency exchange but only when the market matures and regulations are smooth. This is what I mean when I say that a regulated and mature market will attract big investors. I can't think of better news than Nasdaq accepting bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.

Absolutely yes, the cryptocurrency that attracts the attention of everyone, especially big investors is who has many advantages and characteristics like, their project, the high value of the Market Cap, and particularly when it is exist in the best exchange platform (such as, Bittrex, Binance..).

Honestly, I see that there is a ton of bad cryptocurrencies on the market and the issue that many people are hasty to invest in them, and always after a period they become disappointed, when those currencies fall by a large proportion. Furthermore, everyone must be careful when investing, and believe me, this is not an easy field to make a lot of money, you should always focus, choose well the right digital currencies and avoid hasty choices especially in the difficult situations (biig pump, or dump).

I agree to that, most of the ico's today are not being trusted because they are just scamming their investors when they get a huge amount of profit then they will just stop providing the platform's goal for the future and that is the reason why people cannot fully trust ico's today.

When we think of a regulated usage of cryptocurrency, automatically what we expect is to be under a centralized system. When someone begins to govern us, automatically the goodness will be ruined with the benefits being enjoyed by a certain group of people who were in the higher level same as that we see in the corporate network.

I actually don't think that it's true because crypto market already attracted extremely big players, and did it by it's volatility.

I got your point.That case is mostly happening right now wherein the benefits are only abused by people in the higher positions.As with bitcoin,i think it has already attracted its investors whether big or small.Its volatility has remained to give thrill to the people when prices suddenly rise up or may go down in just a minute.

Cryptocurrency is increasingly recognized, by many societies in the world. People's interest in cryptocurrency is generally as an investment, which in fact has only increased rapidly after the bitcoin exchange rate soared.
On the other side altcoin keeps popping up generally with the mission of fixing bitcoin gaps is a new way to process mining and transactions. Unfortunately, due to the absence of rules that cover the existence of cryptocurrency, there have been many cases of abuse, among others:
The action of big whales who have been manipulating prices.
The carelessness of the owners of exchange sites, which carry a run of assets of investors.
Of course this can damage the image of cryptocurrency in the eyes of the people, especially the world.

I understand where you're coming from but i somewhat disagree. Big investors will probably want to get ahead of the pack and invest early to maximize their profits. There logic would probably fall along the lines of: What is the point in investing in an oversaturated market?

I'm quite confident that when we have a mature and regulated market, it will be because of big investors, and it will instead attract regular people or small investors.

Mature market doesnt mean market will have stable movement. Even on stocks exchange that already exist for hundred years, always high volatile and every investment have their own risk.
I am believe mature market is when people who investing money on crypto, knowing their investment risk and not panic with any negative news

I understand you point, seems to be valid to me. Not only that, but in a event of hack and your funds are not covered by the exchanges, then its goodbye that's we heard so much crying around when a exchange is being hacked or taken down. In other words, the typical protection we have seen in stock market is not present in bitcoin. However, the argument can be said as well if you are familiar in using let's say your credit card online. You really have to take the risk, do the necessary steps to protect your account and keep your information offline. So there is a risk, and that people are willing to take that risk and gamble on cryptocurrency.

those exchanges are the one who make bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies valuable, we need them, if you have millions of assets, would you put it in one exchange? you should diversify it into multiple exchanges. would you trade it in an exchange with zero safety? no, you have to be wise in choosing trusted exchanges especially if you are planning to trade your millions. maybe you're trying to say is, a well trusted and stable exchanges will be the best choice of traders and investors but regulated market? i doubt. it depends on how it is regulated, what are the scope of regulations.

In fact, it is not even supposed to be a debate. Regulation would bring market maturity, which would usher in a lot of new money most especially from bigger investors and institutions, it would also crave in huge demand probably in the mainstream sector and all these things are going to be causing a huge increase in volume rather than a decrease in volume.

It is easy for some people to say they do not want regulation, but regulation would indeed bring a promising market than when we all just keep doing whatever we like.

At the same time, mature market environment may happen through well protocol based system too. But it will definitely takes more time to bring such a maturity for every users. But decentralization will not support regulations by any authority nor governments still for short term benefits, regulations are preferred.

What is the hard work that bitcoin is doing? It is a market and it is not human bro! We are the ones that make the price what it is and if big players and investors decide to get into the market, it would obviously be at a time when they feel it is actually a good time to get in and not FOMO. Who do you think are the real market makers, bull and bears, you think you and I with just very little BTC? Obviously not!

The fact that there are lots of huge investors trusting their money in this crypto world means that they gain a lot or they are basing that to others experience here. So, it just shows thay we can gain investing here. There might be higher risks for them but when blessed they can gain huge also.

All investors are aware about their investment they make sure that its secure because once they had invested in a bad project they cannot get back their money so they are looking for a matured and trusted project to invest with.

Totally agree with you! Becouse wise and mature investors would never invest in something not tested and not trustworthy!

I really want to believe we are assuming too much for this market. The thing here is that, it is not like the bigger players are not already in this market and sure, regulation would give them a chance to get in bigger than they may have been already, but the thing is before we can really get to see a matured market, it would have gotten to the stage where a lot of weak hands would have been fully shed off completely. We should have a matured market as time goes on anyway, even without the regulation.

I do think big investors are already in. Bitcoin potential is too huge to pass up, tho the fact that it's unregulated may prove a hindrance

Well decentralized exchanges are coming. However there are banks that will take custody of your crypto and buy/sell large amounts so you can liquidate/fill your positions quickly today, it is similar enough to the way of doing business today.

Yes of course, there are a lot of new cryptocurrency in the market today that is currently running and because of that, everyone is making their coin but still the serious icos will be only treated well and not those who have bad platforms.

Exchanges with large traffic always attract the attention of hackers. Exchanges like Binance are attacked by hackers!

However, Binance is committed to building a world-class blockchain asset trading platform in terms of security, service level and development prospect.

would not truely add much to the statement. though there are big investors on the market, we still miss the scale to make it really move up. clear regulations may make it less risky and open to larger number of investors of all kind

You maybe right on matured crypto will attract big investors, but not for possible regulated crypto. it is still dependent on the volume of investment for the said crypto, the level of confidence, the stability in the market, the awareness on crypto investors, and the fundamental, the potential equity to the trading market, all of this are indicators to attract new investors in the trading market.

Cryptocurrency investors tend to take risks in this industry it is because of the possible huge return if properly done or planned. Volatility what makes people make good return in their investments compared to those stable assets like fiat, stocks amd real estate. A lot of investors prefer to choose cryptocurrency due to fast gain. Whales love to play either a centralized or decentralized market so I don't think we need a regulated and mature cryptocurrency market.

What prevents big investors from using those 2-3 trustful exchanges?
Isn't that enough or you want more positive competition?
There are already investors with millions that entrusted their capital into crypto knowing about all the risks.
Yes, the risk is huge, but the profit could be even more inspiring.

It is true that even now the market of cryptocurrencies is not run very professionally there is still needs to be a huge level of improvements especially when it comes to customer service and protection to the money of their customers, but I really think this is going to improve in the next years so I'm not really worried, I'm willing to accept these conditions and the greater risk in order to get big profits.

In cryptocurrency investment, the transaction is not regulated by the central bank, thus raising the risk high enough. Despite the lucrative benefits. Basically, whatever we do all have their respective risks both big and little a risk it all depends on what we do. No matter what the risks preferably think about how to minimize those risks.
Of course they are preferred because a mature crypto's usually a crypto that cannot be doubted either the popularity or quality of the team especially the security aspect

I think those big players never got to where they are now if they didn’t grab every oportunity that comes to their way, investors are risk takers and they are very much willing to risk what they have just to gain more profit, at the same time, they acquired wisdom upon all their investments, that is why I believe that most of them would be very carfeful as well as observant in investing, and cryptocurrency is one that worth investing with.

I agree to that and the big investors or players in the investment are always the pioneers or the early birds and they get into their investment while it is not yet matured and it is just getting started and that is what is happening on the cryptocurrency right now because it is having a lot of big investors because they believed on the potential of the cryptocurrencies.

Obviously, there are a lot of people today in the market who are investing a huge amount if they knew that the platform is really good for long term investment and if not then the price of that specific coil will just get dumped since no one will be interested.

I think a lot of big investors has already invested in cryptocurrency that is why many people has joined crypto because they see the potential in earning higher profits. Big investors always make their own trail and are risk takers the reason why they are always ahead of the race because they don't mind risks. They mind profit.

This makes perfect sense where people like us can take a small gamble on small exchanges but when you control millions from other people it needs to be a completely safe investment. Regulated and legal on a safe exchange that will never crash or get hacked

In spite of more people investing into bitcoins, more people and businesses are afraid to accept bitcoins just because of its high volatility. I believe that when it’s less volatile and more stable, more investors will come again and it will be widely used globally.

Sometimes long term investment were not applicable in some coins, there are much preferred with btc and eth or to those that gains much attention in terms of innovation,but some new coins didn't have what it takes now.

Somehow. Because people are afraid to invest because crypto is not yet regulated by the government. If crypto becomes mature and the government started regulating it, then I think people will now be at ease in putting their money.

The thought you put into it, I understand. And in General you are right. But with a rigid framework, control and order ensuring someone from the outside, it doesn't work that we ourselves will drive everything into the grave?

This is really true! I am sure that only large investors will be able to enter the crypto market in the future as it will be more regulated in the future. Though, today, we can enter it with not much investment as well

As the thread title states mature and regulated crypto market will attract big investors, but with cryptocurrency when it is regulated hard the market is fluctuating big. Another thing, to be matured market all that required is big investors. If that's the case no technology related growth will succeed.

I agree. With a lot of happenings inside crypto currencies, we are still young in it and needs to improve more before they would try to invest also in crypto.

I believe that we are closely reaching that stage. Just take a look at Binance, they are very professional and transparent. The CEO which has a nickname CZ is always there to clear things up when there's some rumours or negative news spreading that wants to destroy their reputation.

Most of us are investing on the crypto currencies for this volatility because we are looking to make money with the crypto currencies not invested on it because of it technology.So we still need time for that to adapt to the technological based growth on crypto currencies but whatever who are early to invest here will make more profits.

its true big investors would stay away from crypto cause the volatility that really high. I do believe somehow crypto will be regulated and it will invite many investors. I do think big investors only wanted to try blockchain and wanted to invest on coin that working on blockchain such as ethereum and eos.

Well your logic is sound but then again,  whales actually dictate the price whenver they buy or they sell. What should happen is that small investors like us should rise up and buy crypto currency so the remaining supply will not affect the current market price. The whales shouldn't be allowed to control the prices which we are focusing on by means of decentralization.

Goldman sachs is reputable financial instititution and they just bought poloniex, one of biggest exchanger. I think big investor will start step by step in crypto market and when regulation from government ready, they will flooding their capital in cryptomarket

Yes, I agree and because of that we are working everyday here to provide them that type of market in near future days

There are no doubts that only large investors will be able to enter the crypto market. I am sure that this will be very soon, in the nearest future we will have the regulated market of crypto currency and everything will be fine

No crypto investments are everyone,you can buy crypto currencies even with $10 or even less because there are many shitcoins available so you can buy bag of coins with very cheap amount so it is not like other kind of investments.But the regulated market will attract more investors towards these field because most of the millionaires are scared that it is a ponzi scheme but the first thing is they need to understand what is crypto currency.

yes you are right and completely I agree with you, there are some cryptocurrencies that are not prepared properly so make the cryptocurrency to be crushed and bankrupt.

We are talking about big amount so obviously, yes big investors will only invest on a well-established cryptos. They don't want to risk in a crypto that is still new and still starting to develop.

Big investors don’t think this way I think because their are the real risk taker, most of them still choose to invest on big ICO’s becase they see big potential on that and their possible profit is much higher compare to existing coin.

Although the volume of investment is the main key for this act to be happened but still, people are different and they want something that is trustworthy. You can earn money through bitcoins and easily live a happy life. And this thing have attracted so many people and made bitcoins a mature coin. That is why bitcoins are too popular now and people are more buying them.

Correct, being an investor is being willing to take risk, when something becomes a sure thing that can give profits then those profits by definition are very small, the big profits always come from things are not a sure thing, we can see examples of this all over the world like the expedition of Christopher Columbus through the ocean that was backed by the monarchs of Spain.

big investors invest on calulated risk they do thier own research about market and they set target its pretty low chance they invest just random so its a good thing that mature exchanges attract big investors.

Its true that with this scenarios many investors would think less about some not profitable or low self proclaimed exchanges, investors now will have the mind of stone when it comes to choosing their money to be invested to. they only choose the most secured and profitable with no time delay exchangers.

Yeah of course investors look for more secure investment because this is business, successful investors usually known to be good in risk calculations, to the exchanger which is mature in the field thier asset would be  the trust, what  ever it takes they should protect their integrity.

Investors always think about the safety of their money so they are looking for a good crypto market before investing because it takes a lot risk in investing so to lost of their money so when the market is good it may attract more investors

 so my choice is to invest in perspective development ICOs in order to put my part in the Global development process

Partially true because mature and regulated crypto market are already tested and proven, but there are not mature but perform good in the market.

Institutional investors are already in the market but they just move tiny amounts as of today and the non existing regulation certainly plays a large role but not the only one.

 so we need to provide them this type of market, by spreading a news, by spotting a bugs and report them, by contributing into development

yes its the same as what nasdaq ceo said. Crypto market still not mature enough and we need more clarity about regulation and we do need a good one that able to support cryptocurrency and also able to attract more investors into it.

I think it is true, big money attracts people, but careful in doing anything. they wouldn't spend money only if the project will save their money

I absolutely agree with your assertion and there are many reasons why so. Big money are usually managed by professionals and they had to know the rules and risks before making any decision. Any investments must be in safe and it need to be a central regulation organization like an arbiter which controls safity and using rules.

I somewhat agree with you. But people need to think the way you have mentioned. In reality, most of the investors don’t think like what you said. Investors are quite easy while investing their money. Despite the huge volatility in the crypto market and huhge risks, investors still in invest in cryptos on the basis of the technology and new projects. If they think that the coin has a potential of rising in future simply just invest without thinking much.

You have a point because we can't deny the fact that investors nowadays are smart and they always choose an ico which they think is profitable and has an active team. They would choose to invest in an Ico with definite foundation and listed in a top exchanger.

I think the need of the hour currently are the decentralised exchanges which are really dynamic and can cater some high amount of volume and amounts. Basically currently the best DEX we have is IDEX but that too has a very poor trading interface. Regulation can only come with a decentralised platform otherwise these big exchanges will always manipulate the market using bots, whales and make money out of it. Remember whale dumps and pumps are impossible without help of exchanges. These happen because all exchanges care about is their fees.

What are the indications of a certain mature crypto? Regulation or being adopted with such rules or laws of government doesnt really be consider to be a mature one yet this would only be just like traditional investments either assets or securities.
Not a necessary thing for a crypto to be regulated before it would able to get big investors. Have you seen some project in the market do able to get a big funding or support of investors? There are some projects do achieve this.

Considering how much money involved in the crypto market, some governments have issued regulations and laws to supervise the exchanges in their State. Everyone can access exchange reviews and the detail of each exchange such as supported countries, payment methods accepted, fees, customer support, limits, privacy (KYC) and if there any past issues. Treat exchanges as a place to transact, not to store the coins.
Big investors are welcome to invest or buy bitcoin through some licensed exchanges, what does really matter is whether they want to invest in bitcoin or not, referring to the value and usability in short, mid and long-term

Mature and regulated crypto isn't the only factor that can't make big investors come.

There are big players out there that are still speculating and they are not prepared for the market and they assumes the outcome already. As much as possible they are calculating risk and most of all, they are not well versed and knowledgeable with the market.

well agree with it, an investor are really wanted to catching the big fish then some boots in the river, they just looking some good stuff to invest not just a theoritical whitepaper with 1% faith in it

I agree.It is not only to regulate exchanges it is about to regulate trading
Now exchanges want KYC govs want taxes pay.But exchanges allow any kind of illegal trading
Govs are mostly saying crypto  is poising risk but they want our money and they don't want to regulate crypto in whatever way.I can say common crypto is here and is going to stay
So do something to make it legal instead of avoiding problem

IDEX works fine, I used it a couple times and it's good, however you can see the downsides, you will never be able to trade for real on IDEX or any other decentralized exchange. Payfair is also trying right now but people just don't seem that interested. For a market that thinks ''decentralization is the best'' they don't seem too interested in decentralization lol.

Yes that sounds very wise, all the biggest world investors when their billions of Dollars, they would not come here if they would know that they would have the possibility of losing their money in one week.

And in my opinion, they are mostly experienced one. So they know better how to tackle situations in differents cenarios and conditions. And it is often rather every time advice here not to jump over here without having any solid knowledge of what you are going to do. Better is to make sure and had a proper research about something you are getting in. May the odds are in favor of these smart traders.

There are big players who are already a while in Cryto and might partly be the reason why the bull market has turned into a bear market. The reason are Futures, since this year large financial institutions are able to bet on the price of Bitcoin Futures without risking any of their funds to be stolen or hacked at any of the many still immature exchanges. They simply „short“ Bitcoin and profit when the price goes down. I am in the financial market already more than a decade market and I know my stuff a little bit. George Soros and others who believed in January that Bitcoin is overpriced and went in and bet against it. I have no 100% proof but everything indicates towards it. Do your research and you will come to your own conclusions.

As part of my job I am talking to many clients everyday, some with backround in trading and investment, and I am amazed how few people see this connection.

It is quite obvious. The only question is how exactly the arrival of institutional investors will affect the development of the market as a whole. All the same, the idea of a crypto currency is initially far from corporate interests.

Season investors are very wise enough and will choose the most prominent, matured and regulated cryptos in the market ,yhis cryptos would attract the old investors ,because this investor will make sure that their money will not be put in chaos because of this rising cryptos ,so they will preferrably choose the matured cryptos like bitcoin.

I think simply where there are profits there are big investors. The more profitable they are to get into them.
However, they are very intelligent and the possibility of failure is very small. Since they are big investors, they understand the problems in this area is too simple to succeed. I think so.

Most of the ico's that has a very promising platform are all getting a huge amount of investors and that is the reason why they are succeeding at their project.

The futures are seen as higher risk contracts than other products so some mainstream investors don't like to get involved with them. Certainly, they would represent a lower level of risk than exchanges that arbitrarily determine the price, but they still have very large exposures and you need deep pockets to be able to handle a large move with a futures contract. That's why this ETF thing is getting so much attention. It's a "medium risk" product (although in reality there is no such thing as medium risk)

Another interesting valuation of bitcoin that no one seems to notice is the Chinese Yuan. Capital flight out of China has found a new vehicle--bitcoin. Compare the USD/CNY & USD/BTC back in Dec & Jan and you'll see that they both made major moves at nearly the same time.

Regulations bring sanity. I am quite certain that we will never have this much cryptocurrency exchanges if there are cryptocurrency regulatory bodies because so many of them would never meet up with the requirements in the first place and the available few will be very reliable. Same goes for ICOs.

In exactly what area of Cryptocurrency do investors find so risky to invest in?  What is so risky about investing in Cryptocurrency Exchange, Marketplace, Mining, hardware production, Social Media etc.. If it's so risky for them they wouldn't be rushing into Cryptocurrency. You speak as if the Crypto World is in desperate need of the investors.

Please add up the cheap market price for cryptocurrency. As the market price has been so cheap now after having a huge fall down and there are back log of money circulating from the investors to crypto and now it was being pull back by the investors this made the back log where market price stay down for a while now.

I do not totally agree with it, Don't get me wrong I understand your point that matured and regulated market would definitely have lesser risk but then again my perspective is that there is no perfect scenario in this crypto currency industry, it all comes with the positives and negatives for every given scenario so it will all boils down to your own perspective and reactions on the things happening infront of you.

There are still a lot of factors to be considered aside from its maturity and regulation. How about keeping its morale and reputation strong and efficient. After all what matters is the service and sincerity we provide.