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Title: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: CYPER on November 09, 2013, 06:41:52 PM
So in the pool I am mining I got paid double the usual amount for a block we found, which made me check why.
It turns out the block has 36.71549047 BTC in tx fees:
https://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000004b5916721388de1d48fa49d633b19f5e3dedf7716ac9a2dd5

Can anyone write an easy to follow tutorial (for idiots) on how am I supposed to interpret all the data on that website.

I'm trying to find the address of the guy/guys who paid so much in tx fees, but I don't even know where to look?

Thanks.


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: 2_Thumbs_Up on November 09, 2013, 07:04:56 PM
If you scroll down you see every transaction. At the top right for every transcation you can see the fees.

Example from the second transaction:
(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 258 bytes) 2013-11-08 18:43:12

Quick find for the transaction you want:
Ctrl+F -> search for "fee: 3"

Here is a link to the transaction
https://blockchain.info/tx/465fd256ebb68c72df166f31d5f5d7e5eb61de4c1729ed0e6f4e83079a4d9ccc

There are quite a few inputs in that transaction though.


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on November 09, 2013, 07:07:57 PM
If you scroll down you see every transaction. At the top right for every transcation you can see the fees.

Example from the second transaction:
(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 258 bytes) 2013-11-08 18:43:12

Quick find for the transaction you want:
Ctrl+F -> search for "fee: 3"

Here is a link to the transaction
https://blockchain.info/tx/465fd256ebb68c72df166f31d5f5d7e5eb61de4c1729ed0e6f4e83079a4d9ccc

There are quite a few inputs in that transaction though.

Still, that's a huge fee. Like almost, 20%.


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: 2_Thumbs_Up on November 09, 2013, 07:11:55 PM
If you scroll down you see every transaction. At the top right for every transcation you can see the fees.

Example from the second transaction:
(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 258 bytes) 2013-11-08 18:43:12

Quick find for the transaction you want:
Ctrl+F -> search for "fee: 3"

Here is a link to the transaction
https://blockchain.info/tx/465fd256ebb68c72df166f31d5f5d7e5eb61de4c1729ed0e6f4e83079a4d9ccc

There are quite a few inputs in that transaction though.

Still, that's a huge fee. Like almost, 20%.
Yeah. What I meant was that the amount of inputs means it's a lot more work to go through all the adresses to find the owner.


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: CYPER on November 09, 2013, 08:04:36 PM
If you scroll down you see every transaction. At the top right for every transcation you can see the fees.

Example from the second transaction:
(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 258 bytes) 2013-11-08 18:43:12

Quick find for the transaction you want:
Ctrl+F -> search for "fee: 3"

Here is a link to the transaction
https://blockchain.info/tx/465fd256ebb68c72df166f31d5f5d7e5eb61de4c1729ed0e6f4e83079a4d9ccc

There are quite a few inputs in that transaction though.

Still, that's a huge fee. Like almost, 20%.
Yeah. What I meant was that the amount of inputs means it's a lot more work to go through all the adresses to find the owner.

I found that transaction, but is there a way to easily see who paid these 36BTC in fees? I mean the Bitcoin addresses.
Sort by fee?


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on November 09, 2013, 08:34:18 PM
I found that transaction, but is there a way to easily see who paid these 36BTC in fees? I mean the Bitcoin addresses.
Sort by fee?

All the addresses listed as inputs did.


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: CYPER on November 09, 2013, 08:43:04 PM
I found that transaction, but is there a way to easily see who paid these 36BTC in fees? I mean the Bitcoin addresses.
Sort by fee?

All the addresses listed as inputs did.

Can you please give a link or a screenshot at the exact page where all the fees totalling 36BTC are listed.

Thank you.


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: Walter Rothbard on November 09, 2013, 08:49:24 PM
That was the world's most awesome block. :)


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on November 09, 2013, 08:57:42 PM
Can you please give a link or a screenshot at the exact page where all the fees totalling 36BTC are listed.

There are no fees listed. A fee is calculated as output_amount - input_amount.


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on November 09, 2013, 08:58:09 PM
That was the world's most awesome block. :)

No, there were some blocks with ~100 BTC fees.


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: CYPER on November 09, 2013, 09:06:15 PM
Can you please give a link or a screenshot at the exact page where all the fees totalling 36BTC are listed.

There are no fees listed. A fee is calculated as output_amount - input_amount.

I'm just trying to understand why this block has so high fees?
Was it a few people that paid it or a lot and why?


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on November 09, 2013, 09:09:48 PM
I'm just trying to understand why this block has so high fees?
Was it a few people that paid it or a lot and why?

Someone was using Brainwallet (http://brainwallet.org/) and made a mistake subtracting numbers, IMO.


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on November 09, 2013, 09:43:55 PM
If you scroll down you see every transaction. At the top right for every transcation you can see the fees.

Example from the second transaction:
(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 258 bytes) 2013-11-08 18:43:12

Quick find for the transaction you want:
Ctrl+F -> search for "fee: 3"

Here is a link to the transaction
https://blockchain.info/tx/465fd256ebb68c72df166f31d5f5d7e5eb61de4c1729ed0e6f4e83079a4d9ccc

There are quite a few inputs in that transaction though.

Yeah, a lot of inputs from addresses with a lot of random BTC amounts in them.  I wouldn't be surprised to find out they're stolen coins.


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on November 09, 2013, 09:48:52 PM
If you scroll down you see every transaction. At the top right for every transcation you can see the fees.

Example from the second transaction:
(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 258 bytes) 2013-11-08 18:43:12

Quick find for the transaction you want:
Ctrl+F -> search for "fee: 3"

Here is a link to the transaction
https://blockchain.info/tx/465fd256ebb68c72df166f31d5f5d7e5eb61de4c1729ed0e6f4e83079a4d9ccc

There are quite a few inputs in that transaction though.

Yeah, a lot of inputs from addresses with a lot of random BTC amounts in them.  I wouldn't be surprised to find out they're stolen coins.

Well, some of the input addresses have a balance of 0 BTC, but not all of them, so maybe not.


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: 2_Thumbs_Up on November 09, 2013, 10:17:11 PM
I found that transaction, but is there a way to easily see who paid these 36BTC in fees? I mean the Bitcoin addresses.
Sort by fee?

All the addresses listed as inputs did.

Can you please give a link or a screenshot at the exact page where all the fees totalling 36BTC are listed.

Thank you.
Here is the transaction.
https://blockchain.info/tx/465fd256ebb68c72df166f31d5f5d7e5eb61de4c1729ed0e6f4e83079a4d9ccc

A transaction normally consists of multiple adresses. All the adresses to the left contributed to this transaction, and they paid the fee together. This could be one person with many adresses, or multiple persons.


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: Rez on November 10, 2013, 12:01:39 AM
To me, it looks like possibly a lot of accounts that had "collected dust" (small payments from faucets and free µBTC sites) and were transferred to a single address.


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: CYPER on November 10, 2013, 12:04:42 AM
To me, it looks like possibly a lot of accounts that had "collected dust" (small payments from faucets and free µBTC sites) and were transferred to a single address.

Yeah but who decided to pay so much fees? And why?


Title: Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info?
Post by: Walter Rothbard on November 10, 2013, 02:37:49 AM
That was the world's most awesome block. :)

No, there were some blocks with ~100 BTC fees.

Yes, but I was mining in the pool that produced this one. :)