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Title: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: ssateneth on July 30, 2011, 07:29:35 AM
https://www.insight.com/search/ppp.web?materialId=100323L&cm_mmc=GoogleBase-_-Video+Cards-_-100323L-_-null
In this case, however, google also has reviews on the site.
http://www.google.com/products/seller?q=5850&hl=en&zmi=insight.com&start=10

Legit? Scam? Thoughts?


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: shakaru on July 30, 2011, 07:41:14 AM
Nope, that would seem legit. Check out the contact info page. Search the addresses, they are there. So either someone bought about 50 pieces of commercial space for a scam, or you found a good deal.

And they are listed on the Nasdaq


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: release on July 30, 2011, 07:47:41 AM
if this is real, then ROI on these could be as short as a few months.


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: shakaru on July 30, 2011, 07:51:21 AM
if this is real, then ROI on these could be as short as a few months.

Tossed it into my spreadsheet, 38 days if your doing it right.


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: ssateneth on July 30, 2011, 08:01:42 AM
I'm tempted to buy 8 right now, but I'm scared to plop down that much money in 1 shot D:

Plus, I don't want to be scammed, since they reviews have some amount of negative feedback. /veryscared


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: shakaru on July 30, 2011, 08:11:07 AM
Well, if you are a buyer in the US, you should be pretty well protected. Also, when a company is large enough to go public, thats another good sign because they cant just close shop.

I would personally buy a few here to give it a shot. I have bought stuff from much riskier vendors before and been fine and they looked very unlegit.


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: Keninishna on July 30, 2011, 08:14:40 AM
According to the reviews it seems they often make price mistakes and will cancel the order. I just sent them an email to verify the price.


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: ssateneth on July 30, 2011, 08:24:59 AM
I think I found the error.

The manufacturer part number listed is 100323L
That is is accordance with a sapphire 6570.

Think I'll have to cancel my order. I jumped the gun D:


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: release on July 30, 2011, 08:39:51 AM
isn't this fraud if it is the 6570?


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: ssateneth on July 30, 2011, 08:56:53 AM
Don't know. I'm not good with anything regarding legal stuff. All I know is original link is 5850. Shopping cart is 5850. Final review is 5850. Email with order confirmation is 5850. Clicking the link in email for order stats shows 6570. :/
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9768004/ugh.png

I'm going to have my credit card company cancel the charge or whatever it takes to get my money back if this is for 6570's.


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: Keninishna on July 30, 2011, 09:03:12 AM
isn't this fraud if it is the 6570?

Yes and no, worst case they ask you to return it and they refund you. But I'm almost positive this is mislabeled product now. The google reviews state this company is notorious for bait and switch tactics.


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: dub0matic on July 30, 2011, 09:04:34 AM
best of luck from this place found this on WOT ext for firefox.

"Warning: Keep out. IP/Hostname/Website containing malware of various types that can seriously compromise the system and corrupt/steal/lock sensible data from it."

hope you didnt just get riped off. i only trust newegg haha


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: ssateneth on July 30, 2011, 09:14:00 AM
best of luck from this place found this on WOT ext for firefox.

"Warning: Keep out. IP/Hostname/Website containing malware of various types that can seriously compromise the system and corrupt/steal/lock sensible data from it."

hope you didnt just get riped off. i only trust newegg haha

Well insight doesnt open until monday. My CC company will open in about 4 hours though, so maybe I can catch it before the charge even happens.

Edit: I got a hold of my CC issuer. At this point, there is nothing they can do. It's up to the merchant to honor my request. If things go south, I can file a dispute and get some or all of my money back.


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on July 30, 2011, 11:22:58 PM
Don't know. I'm not good with anything regarding legal stuff. All I know is original link is 5850. Shopping cart is 5850. Final review is 5850. Email with order confirmation is 5850. Clicking the link in email for order stats shows 6570. :/
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9768004/ugh.png

I'm going to have my credit card company cancel the charge or whatever it takes to get my money back if this is for 6570's.

Refuse delivery and you'll get your money back.


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on July 30, 2011, 11:25:33 PM
Get screen shots in case you need to file a dispute, however, you can simply refuse delivery and when insight gets them back, they will refund you.

You "may" not get a refund for the shipping charge right away, but once you dispute with your cc, you should get that amount back as well.
Finally, if you must, file a BBB complaint and see how fast insight resolves everything.

You shouldn't have any problems with Insight though...


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: Dargo on July 31, 2011, 02:41:59 PM
If the website allows you to cancel the order, I assume you have already done this? I would also get on the phone with them as soon as they open Monday (I assume you are planning on this too). It would be a lot easier if you can just cancel before they ship. I had a similar experience to this where I ordered what I thought were reference 6950s, but they turned out to be non-reference. I was able to RMA them and get a full refund. The retailer had the wrong model number listed on the website, and no picture. I am now more suspicious about ordering cards online when there is no picture, but of course they can be advertising the wrong card even if there is a pic.


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: ssateneth on July 31, 2011, 11:24:02 PM
If the website allows you to cancel the order, I assume you have already done this? I would also get on the phone with them as soon as they open Monday (I assume you are planning on this too). It would be a lot easier if you can just cancel before they ship. I had a similar experience to this where I ordered what I thought were reference 6950s, but they turned out to be non-reference. I was able to RMA them and get a full refund. The retailer had the wrong model number listed on the website, and no picture. I am now more suspicious about ordering cards online when there is no picture, but of course they can be advertising the wrong card even if there is a pic.

There is no way to cancel orders online as far as I can tell.

Edit: Called them this morning, they confirmed the description was wrong (He even "googled" the model number to confirm it was a 6570. Yes he used that word on the phone. Sounded like a relatively small shop) and canceled my order. No funds were taken from my bank account, so I'm happy :)


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: Dargo on August 01, 2011, 02:34:06 PM
^^^^ Glad to hear it!


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: MelMan2002 on August 01, 2011, 04:04:35 PM
Hmm...I wonder why they still haven't fixed the listing...sounds like this company is going on my blacklist.


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: jpinconline on August 03, 2011, 08:40:18 AM
Hmm...I wonder why they still haven't fixed the listing...sounds like this company is going on my blacklist.

sounds like this company should be on everyones blacklist


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: ManOfKnight on August 03, 2011, 09:37:06 PM
Have any of these shipped yet?  I would like to know as I wouldn't mind picking one up to assist my mining.


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: ssateneth on August 03, 2011, 10:39:47 PM
Have any of these shipped yet?  I would like to know as I wouldn't mind picking one up to assist my mining.

They arent 5850's. They are 6570's. Read the whole thread next time.


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: ManOfKnight on August 03, 2011, 10:50:31 PM
Have any of these shipped yet?  I would like to know as I wouldn't mind picking one up to assist my mining.

They arent 5850's. They are 6570's. Read the whole thread next time.

I did actually read the entire article.  It IS a misprint on their site but no one had confirmed what they were actually shipping.  Actually Insight themselves don't even know what they are shipping as it is a direct from vendor shipment.  The part number could very well be a misprint on the website and in their database.  According to him no one can cancel their order without a 20% restocking fee..."you open it, you own it" were his exact words.


Title: Re: Another (fishy?) site selling 5850's for cheap.
Post by: release on August 04, 2011, 01:02:41 AM
Have any of these shipped yet?  I would like to know as I wouldn't mind picking one up to assist my mining.

They arent 5850's. They are 6570's. Read the whole thread next time.

I did actually read the entire article.  It IS a misprint on their site but no one had confirmed what they were actually shipping.  Actually Insight themselves don't even know what they are shipping as it is a direct from vendor shipment.  The part number could very well be a misprint on the website and in their database.  According to him no one can cancel their order without a 20% restocking fee..."you open it, you own it" were his exact words.
but they were INTENTIONALLY trying to sell them as 5850s in order to get people to buy overpriced 6570s, which by definition is fraud. If they don't give you a full refund when you return, you should take it up with the law.