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Something I do not recall such projects to use the whole hydroelectric power station for the crypto currency. This is a really grandiose project, if it is certainly real.

i think this is could be called "Mining optimization" and not "blockchain innovation"
anyway, if you share in this thread some real photo, will be great, to prove this project is real.

I'm sorry, but could you explain to me the concept of your project?

All this supposed mining equipment in place from the first ICO and magically, they need even more 'investor' money.
Now with a minimal 140K entry! Pretty audacious, someone please send a memo to the Austrian finance departement.

https://s31.postimg.cc/ydahse257/datvolume.png

Hydrominer tokens are so popular, I can see why you'd want another investor rip-off.

well, looks like we are moving towards green energies. thank you, i like the project, thank you from the people of EARTH. though i am not going to invest(financial reasons) but my best wishes are for you.

yes i have seen that also. but more green energy the better.

In my opinion, the project deserves attention at least because the guys already have something tangible, not just another naked freaky blockchain idea.

yes you are right. and the money would not go into thin air, there would b something practical..

Its actually the Austrian financial market authority that asks for this high minimum. Maybe you should read the text first, these guys actually are the first to make a compliant security token in Europe.

yes, we currently use 2 hydropower plants and will continue to expand.


no fear we are real :)
here you can see videos of us and the plant, soon a new one will come.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjzXgOIoVEmYvGfK3OH71OQ


here is a link to our whitepaper: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BImYqtT9fOa4zvOb_kyeh1w9VUvjvcW_/view

@samspaces
h2o tokens are not for trading, they have a sense, you can mine with them.
it is the first compliant european security token

@cryptaxo
yes thank you, environmental protection is very important to us

@Sergiose
Thank you, you're right :)

at first i thought you delayed everything, when you posted please delete and will update soon. but pleased to see you are back.

It really cool when you provide full information about your project, hope you guys success. good job.

Can you tell us more about upcoming projects? I wanted to know more about white paper

The whitepaper is now available on the hm site here

https://www.hydrominer.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/H3O-pre-sale-white-paper-en-lq.pdf

https://medium.com/@nadine_3242/why-there-is-no-161-profit-in-mining-91e61fd7b526 :)

hydrominer in my opinion is an eco-friendly project by utilizing the goodness of water, utilizing the power of water as an energy source. water is a cheap and effective energy source. The hydrominer project is a power plant project that combines water as a source of energy and blockchain technology. great project.

Hello brothers on reason!  ;D

So many projects are listed on Skatt, it will be more awesome if they offer partnership to the project.

https://icobench.com/ico/hydrominer

Best rating possible for now on ICO Bench 5/5

cool !

I think this has potential, and in the world we live in green is be coming important, i do however take on board the negative comments but as this project has been in the making for 2 years i feel it is worth following although I'm unsure of investing in it at present.

I shall be watching

It is a promising project in the future, I am really considering to join and I will read all your white paper :D

will you have bounty social program?

check out our new discort channel: https://discord.gg/M2dSPw9

Meanwhile, the poor 'investors' from H2O money grab are still waiting. Never mind them, the 'team' is too busy planning an even bigger crypto heist. Watch your Bitcoin.

https://s33.postimg.cc/cisdpogfj/hahasucker.png

hm mining is live since February 9....

check out our new youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpre9rsEX8A

HydroMiner runs two mining farms in hydropower stations since last year. We are giving tours regularly, please have a look at the following videos that are showing the facilities:

The austrian news outlet "trending topics" visitis one of HM's farms in Austria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMqG5qWO03U

TechMagnet visits one of HydroMiners mining farms near "Schönberg an der Kamp": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN6ntkA-5ec&t=217s

HydroMiner Team Movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpre9rsEX8A

Yes, we are currently setting up a bounty!

Agree. Water as a source of energy is a really valuable asset, we are planning to buy hydro-power plants in the future. The hydro sector shows some interest in crypto-mining as well, you might be interested in the report from the WorldBank's meeting on disruptions in the hydropower sector https://medium.com/@hydrominer/hydrominer-speaks-at-the-world-bank-fc7cc7e317c8. We think, that hydromining can be a unique opportunity especially for undeveloped areas to use hydro energy profitable and quick, since hydro projects are for the long-term and often subsidized, initial cash flow is a massive advantage. Mining can bring value to areas where infrastructure around the hydro power plants is just evolving.

H3O will be the first security token with a capital market prospectus according to European financial law and a completely new model in the way investors will be able to profit from the mining process.

What negative comments do you mean? Happy to discuss them!

Your Project has a high potential. To boost your ICO sale, You can try isting your coin on ICO Guide https://www.icoguide.com/en . You will definitely get positive results

Awesome project to invest in . I am soon looking forward to invest in your coin. I shall be watching . I hope you must list your coin on ICO Guide https://www.icoguide.com/en to get more quick and positive response

This ICO Has Been Listed, Rate And Review It Here: http://icovoz.com/icos/view/Hydrominer

What about that bounty program? It seems Hydrominer needs some help with the marketing.  You guys should release that bounty thread asap.

I read the information on the site that they offer H2O token swap and Redeem H2O tokens for crypto mining but, it seems that most investors are not able to participate in this cloud mining because H2O token prices fall and the lowest hashrate price in H2O cloud mining is over € 500.

Investors who have H2O tokens with a value lower than € 500 can only swap their H2O tokens to get H3O tokens and expect H3O tokens could be a solution to reduce their losses in the future or sell H2O tokens on Exchanges, I think the solutions they provide to token holders with low numbers are very bad

The biggest problem is that because their services are pegged to fiat amounts instead of h20 token numbers people are not able to redeem their tokens for the gains that were proposed at the ico. If someone got $500 worth of tokens they would be lucky to receive $500 worth of eth in 2 years time. They should really have pegged the mining contracts to h20 amounts to ensure that token holders got what they were promised. Very poor IMO.

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IG ID : @PUTRARAMBAH2505
ETHEREUM ADRESS : 0x74B9f1d9F994d561c238db9261De93eE95362889

Can someone explain to me why KYC is not being requested for the presale? I’ve registered but no link to KYC was in the confirmation email.

success for this project hopefully can be a reliable project, this project is feasible to get good luck and useful for the future success of my friend.

Good to see Hydromining using green energy for crypto mining and powering blockchain. Also good to see this as well in Nova Scotia , Canada with Ammeris using local hydro power to fuel their mining and data centres https://www.ammeris.com/ (https://www.ammeris.com/)

Teamwork quite powerful, you can add the actual image of the application, do not understand much about this project. ;D ;D ;D

Told you that you would be scammed :D :D





https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2168580.580



quote :  october 25th 2017


My point of view about hydromining farm. ( I'm mostly french, I'm sure you'll understand anyway even if there are some typos )

Just before I start, I want you to know that I took in the meantime the video of their gpu farm, their promotional video, their whitepaper, and of course their website.

To cut simple, I understand their passion toward cryptocurrencies mining as I'm doing it personally myself at home.  I'm into cryptocurrencies since around 5 years, and from my point of view I see more greeds in their project, than an actual will to fill the need of their investors.

I'll elaborate in which why I don't recommend to invest any money in it, and why.

Before I start, I just want you to know that my main value is honesty, and it's after I noticed a lot of lie and a lot of lack of knowledge from them that I think I could bring more trust into cryptocurrencies in general, because there are already too many scams.

Right on, let's start !

1. Website : https://www.hydrominer.org/

 a) Current yearly ROI : 60%

My answer : Totally, WRONG. First, I'm personally mining, in Canada, with hydro-electricity, and GPUs as well. I have a rate of 0.072 USD per KWh. My Roi at the time is around 7 months. Basically, around 170-180% ROI. I don't even have a ''hydro company'' and already my numbers are higher. I can tell you in private with proof and number how I make it, with screenshots + selfies and everything you need.

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Cost Effective

By placing our mining equipment directly in hydro power stations in the Alps region, we have access to up to 85% lower energy prices than European average.
.''

Basically, how can they offer a such low ROI and say that they have 85% of lower energy prices ? That's totally wrong, again.
 

 b) Nothing much to say else about the website

2. Promotionnal video

a) Professional video, they drank their coffee and put on their best suits and makeups so that could help raise more funds. Usual marketing way to look bigger than we usually are.

b) Hydro energies are green yes. You have to use the water current to naturally change it into electricity. The fact that they are saying they have a power station is clearly exagerating what is clearly a power station. You may google our canadian hydro-quebec power station. I have even noticed that in their promotionnal video at a point there is not even current in their ''pond'' of water. So they basically can't rely on that energy 100% of the time.

c) Nice rigs though

3. Interview video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9cxWnp30o&t=776s

a) At around 10 minute the interviewer ask the makeup frontpage girl in which environment the miners work ( ex : windows ) and she wasn't even able to say it and throw the answers to someone else.

For 2 girls that are into cryptocurrencies since years, and that can't answer a simple question like that, is clearly showing me that the girls are used here to help promote their scam, as the same way to raise more money, more than they actually have the proper background to maintain a higher level of responsibilities towards the people fund.

b) Basically, they have a nice spot, I'll be fair about that. Thing is, they only have a small river, and the investment will remain nature dependant. So, not only you can have 365 days a year of mining, but they can't even give a decent ROI. ( Check website section above )

c) Clearly, at least, they have a hydro station. That show a bit of trust, even if numbers about ROI aren't, when that is supposed to be profitable.

4. Whitepaper : https://www.hydrominer.org/wp-content/uploads/HydroMiner.pdf

The fun begin, I hope that you are ready

a) If you decide to participate in the Token Sale as a form of investment, Hydrominer expressly warns you that an investment in H20 carries a high degree of risk. For a description of the risks associated, see the chapter ''RISKS FACTORS'' in the token offer document.

Seriously ? Since when mining is a high risk factor ? Trading has risk, mining hasn't. You may have a slower ROI, but you won't have RISK IN CAPS to take while mining. They honestly imply that they won't be responsible for anything that could happen to your money, despite they tell you it's one of the best investment you could make.

b) They say they are using Green energy... Well, most of the electricity is made via water in case you didn't know. So basically, electricity is green, from their point of view.

c) They want to use the funds to rent more power station, to get lower price than usual, that will be reflected in their wallet, because you will still have a low ROI. Who is the winner ? Them. Who is the last ? Investors.

d) Even after raising ICO price, they will take a 10% out of all of your mining gain. So basically, 2 years contract, 60% per year ROI, 120% for 2 years. That is the ''prevision'' and since nothing is already made for customers ( Like a cloud program that you can basically control your funds ) that is basically speculation.

e) They are working with Raphael Beaumond: Advisor

Raphael is an energy consultant based in Brussels. He is currently developing the negawatt
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token  to  improve  energy  efficiency.  Previously,  Raphael  has  worked  in  project  finance  for
renewables, operational manager in the humanitarian
sector and as a data analyst for Google.
Additionally, he is contributing to the BioPhys Economics think tank.

Basically, that guy is working with Giga watt, and just search about them here on Bitcoin talk, tell me if their customers are happy ? Hydro miners is doing the same thing as them, and most of the customers hasn't even their equipment installed after 2 months of purchase, yeah proof : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1914900.0;topicseen

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Ok there are way more lies that you can find with more analyses, but I'm starting to miss some air and I think I did my part here.


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To conclude : If you want to start mining, do it at home. Even if your electricity rate seem higher than some other pretends, it will still be more profitable if you do it by yourself, and as opposite of their first page drawing, if you want it at home, you want an external shed or an empty appartment room. ( It is noisy, it is heaty )

Hydro miner teams want the biggest part of the pie, and it's ok, guess all humans are greedy. I just think that before you invest in some people that will gain the most out of your investment, to basically do it yourself on a small scale. You'll understand with real numbers that mostly all they imply to raise fund are fakes and that you'll have to wait a lot of months before seeing your cryptocurrencies back in your wallet.

I personally saw a lot of other ''cloud mining companies'' that tried the exact, same thing and investors were getting ripped off while the people who raised the funds are taking advantage of it.

Invest if you want, but I'm mostly sure you'll get in another cloud mining scam fraud.

edit :
As a regular customer, I pay my first 0.072$ USD for my electricity. To be more precise, the first 1,947 KW/h cost me 0.045 $ / Kw/H then it's 0.072 $ for the rest of the electricity consumption.

If I upgrade my ''scale'' and buy a commercial buy of hydro electricity, I can even get these rate lower.

I'm honestly starting to open my own business and bring more securities into cryptocurrencies for worldwide investor instead of trying to rip people cash off. On the longrun, there are way more money to make by being legit and honest.

Mining still actual. With the increased interest in mining and the electricity costs that come with is, it bodes well that Hydrominer is looking at a sustainable way to do this. Already has MVP.

so how is your 175% ROI operation doing right now ?

This project has turn out to be one of the Worst ICO. No real exchange for H20 tokens, and they conduct another damn presale again to collect another money to buy free rigs to themselves. I feel really ashamed I promoted this shit.

This project is one of the worst. I should have not promoted this in the first place. No real exchange for H20. Now they're conducting another presale for their H30 token which is another round for them to rake in some money and buy free rigs for themselves.

H3O is to be converted into a share at an IPO in 2019. This ambitious statement is underlined by KPMG, one of the leading auditing and advisory firms!

So H2O is worthless? I thought we could use it as mining credit...?

H2O should already be paying dividends on their mining activities, if they are not they should be liable and since they are located in a civilized country they can be taken into trial. I didn't follow developement, but I also didn't receive a single cent dividend yet - and Iìm holding their tokens.

HydroMiner’s Capital Market Prospectus is approved
First approved capital market prospectus for a security token offering in the European Union goes to HydroMiner.

https://medium.com/@hydrominer/hydrominers-capital-market-prospectus-is-approved-6e4b72896480

This is one hell of a news of getting the first approved status as an security token offering that too off a mining plant. I wish you guys the best of luck. I would like to be the part of the main sale too.

But before that i see H2O is priced way less and its best to buy H2O and later convert them into H3O using 1:50 conversion which gives us straight away profit.

Had not followed for a while, when will be the IPO you mentioned, this year ?
Could you earn some passive income with H20/30 ?

May you take a look at Populous Gold Token for passive income. Its 9% per year but should be very reliable because you get the interest upfront when you buy the crypto Gold-Token(plus the goldprise difference over 12 month).