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Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: miffman on November 14, 2013, 01:10:27 PM
Signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Alienwalkerx on November 14, 2013, 01:20:07 PM
+1


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: FiniteByDesign on November 14, 2013, 01:25:12 PM
SIGNED!


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: AZIZ1977 on November 14, 2013, 01:28:14 PM
Signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: bluestang on November 14, 2013, 01:34:37 PM
Signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: seleme on November 14, 2013, 01:58:07 PM
Seriously mate... there's no chance in hell for that.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: FiniteRed on November 14, 2013, 02:08:41 PM
Signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: rampalija on November 14, 2013, 02:15:57 PM
Signed by me


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Orrechorre on November 14, 2013, 02:22:56 PM
signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: DiCE1904 on November 14, 2013, 02:25:16 PM
Signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: bahamapascal on November 14, 2013, 02:58:14 PM
signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: sumantso on November 14, 2013, 03:03:39 PM
So you lot want Btc-e to buy up your coins on the cheap, list it, dump on the buyers and walk away with a boatload of BTCs. Sure, go ahead.

I saw a similar thing happen with XPM, and after the con pulled by them yesterday regarding FTC I would be wary of getting a coin listed there.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Fuserleer on November 14, 2013, 03:11:29 PM
CGB is certainly worth of a position on an exchange.

I hear nothing but good things about the whole operation!


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: mercSuey on November 14, 2013, 04:18:37 PM
CGB is certainly worth of a position on an exchange.

I hear nothing but good things about the whole operation!


Or maybe, with the possibility of p2p exchanges, there might not be a need for it.  ;)


Nevertheless...signed.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: LiteMine on November 14, 2013, 04:33:30 PM
signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: elambert on November 14, 2013, 04:51:40 PM
Sure, why not? I think I can support this

Signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Killiz on November 14, 2013, 05:49:31 PM
Signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Dragooon on November 14, 2013, 07:20:06 PM
+1!


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: rampalija on November 14, 2013, 07:27:40 PM
++1   cmon ppl more signs we need


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Sustainable on November 14, 2013, 07:48:47 PM
Signed.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Majormax on November 14, 2013, 09:31:47 PM
Signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: BitcoinFX on November 14, 2013, 10:42:44 PM
OK I'll sign. Not totally sure with regards to the recent Feathercoin debacle, but if that's what the community desires.

Signed.

Cross forum support for my DGC USB project here please: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=324420.0

CGB is next on my list for production of a shiny alloy USB.  8)


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: xmast on November 15, 2013, 04:48:10 AM
Signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Alec40Gr on November 15, 2013, 05:17:11 AM
Signed.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: No_2 on November 15, 2013, 10:41:46 AM
Signed.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: pgbit on November 15, 2013, 10:45:09 AM
Signed.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Grim on November 15, 2013, 12:19:48 PM
Signed.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: El Dude on November 15, 2013, 12:28:32 PM
 CryptogenicBullion has to first bribe btc-e to be listed ;D


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Slingshot on November 15, 2013, 12:53:12 PM
Signed.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: LostInChaos on November 16, 2013, 07:26:51 AM
Signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Lauda on November 17, 2013, 12:00:03 AM
[ANN] CGB's MADEsparq Project: Made Alignment Data Exploration
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=335955


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Ethapus on November 17, 2013, 03:06:08 PM
Definitely signed   :D


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: muddafudda on November 17, 2013, 03:41:55 PM
Not enough coins, huge advantage to early miners. Doubt it but good luck.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Lauda on November 17, 2013, 03:59:34 PM
Not enough coins, huge advantage to early miners. Doubt it but good luck.
What advantage did Satoshi have mining early? Enough has been said.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: imsoulrebel on November 17, 2013, 04:02:05 PM
Signed...


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: muddafudda on November 17, 2013, 04:03:52 PM

Not enough coins, huge advantage to early miners. Doubt it but good luck.
What advantage did Satoshi have mining early? Enough has been said.

Is this from crack?


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: mercSuey on November 17, 2013, 04:31:37 PM

Not enough coins, huge advantage to early miners. Doubt it but good luck.
What advantage did Satoshi have mining early? Enough has been said.

Is this from crack?

Not enough coins for what?  For you?

Satoshi sat by himself and mined BTC for months...hell, BTC was a nerdy little secret for a year before reaching any kind of notoriety.  Don't give me that 'early miner benefit' bull shit. lol


The "not enough coins" argument is laughable, from a money supply perspective.  It shows mathematical ignorance.  Mainstream media also laughed at Bitcoin because it's "finite" but currency needs to be abundant so to flow, which is a statement of ignorance as well.

Here's some basic math to show it depends on the dollar amount and money supply.  And just an FYI, there are coins with half the supply of CGB on BTC-e.  


If you mapped a correspondence to the lowest denomination of CGB (one satoshi) to the lowest denomination of the USD (one cent), you get the following:

CB                  USD
.00000001        .01
.0000001          .1
.000001            1
.00001              10
.0001                100
.001                  1000
.01                    10000
1                       100000

So, potentially, the money value represented by CGB's total coins is $100,000,000,000  (Do you know how many countries have a money supply of worth $2 trillion...heck, how about $100 billion?  Not many at all.)

Not saying 1 CGB will represent a value $100,000 at all.  But what I'm saying is that the dollar amount and total market supply represent the M1 money supply, which in turn can provide the stimulus for a strong M2 supply.

Let me know if I eased your concerns.  

Have a nice day :)


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: rampalija on November 17, 2013, 05:49:18 PM

Not enough coins, huge advantage to early miners. Doubt it but good luck.
What advantage did Satoshi have mining early? Enough has been said.

Is this from crack?

Not enough coins for what?  For you?

Satoshi sat by himself and mined BTC for months...hell, BTC was a nerdy little secret for a year before reaching any kind of notoriety.  Don't give me that 'early miner benefit' bull shit. lol


The "not enough coins" argument is laughable, from a money supply perspective.  It shows mathematical ignorance.  Mainstream media also laughed at Bitcoin because it's "finite" but currency needs to be abundant so to flow, which is a statement of ignorance as well.

Here's some basic math to show it depends on the dollar amount and money supply.  And just an FYI, there are coins with half the supply of CGB on BTC-e.  


If you mapped a correspondence to the lowest denomination of CGB (one satoshi) to the lowest denomination of the USD (one cent), you get the following:

CB                  USD
.00000001        .01
.0000001          .1
.000001            1
.00001              10
.0001                100
.001                  1000
.01                    10000
1                       100000

So, potentially, the money value represented by CGB's total coins is $100,000,000,000  (Do you know how many countries have a money supply of worth $100 trillion...heck, how about $100 billion?  Not many at all.)

Not saying 1 CGB will represent a value $100,000 at all.  But what I'm saying is that the dollar amount and total market supply represent the M1 money supply, which in turn can provide the stimulus for a strong M2 supply.

Let me know if I eased your concerns.  

Have a nice day :)


early miners have advantage if that coin succes, but what if that coin falls?!?! They waste their money


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: mercSuey on November 17, 2013, 05:50:54 PM

Not enough coins, huge advantage to early miners. Doubt it but good luck.
What advantage did Satoshi have mining early? Enough has been said.

Is this from crack?

Not enough coins for what?  For you?

Satoshi sat by himself and mined BTC for months...hell, BTC was a nerdy little secret for a year before reaching any kind of notoriety.  Don't give me that 'early miner benefit' bull shit. lol


The "not enough coins" argument is laughable, from a money supply perspective.  It shows mathematical ignorance.  Mainstream media also laughed at Bitcoin because it's "finite" but currency needs to be abundant so to flow, which is a statement of ignorance as well.

Here's some basic math to show it depends on the dollar amount and money supply.  And just an FYI, there are coins with half the supply of CGB on BTC-e.  


If you mapped a correspondence to the lowest denomination of CGB (one satoshi) to the lowest denomination of the USD (one cent), you get the following:

CB                  USD
.00000001        .01
.0000001          .1
.000001            1
.00001              10
.0001                100
.001                  1000
.01                    10000
1                       100000

So, potentially, the money value represented by CGB's total coins is $100,000,000,000  (Do you know how many countries have a money supply of worth $100 trillion...heck, how about $100 billion?  Not many at all.)

Not saying 1 CGB will represent a value $100,000 at all.  But what I'm saying is that the dollar amount and total market supply represent the M1 money supply, which in turn can provide the stimulus for a strong M2 supply.

Let me know if I eased your concerns.  

Have a nice day :)


early miners have advantage if that coin succes, but what if that coin falls?!?! They waste their money


Good point, being 'early' isn't always a benefit.  It's a risk people take.  ;)


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: rampalija on November 17, 2013, 05:51:47 PM

Not enough coins, huge advantage to early miners. Doubt it but good luck.
What advantage did Satoshi have mining early? Enough has been said.

Is this from crack?

Not enough coins for what?  For you?

Satoshi sat by himself and mined BTC for months...hell, BTC was a nerdy little secret for a year before reaching any kind of notoriety.  Don't give me that 'early miner benefit' bull shit. lol


The "not enough coins" argument is laughable, from a money supply perspective.  It shows mathematical ignorance.  Mainstream media also laughed at Bitcoin because it's "finite" but currency needs to be abundant so to flow, which is a statement of ignorance as well.

Here's some basic math to show it depends on the dollar amount and money supply.  And just an FYI, there are coins with half the supply of CGB on BTC-e.  


If you mapped a correspondence to the lowest denomination of CGB (one satoshi) to the lowest denomination of the USD (one cent), you get the following:

CB                  USD
.00000001        .01
.0000001          .1
.000001            1
.00001              10
.0001                100
.001                  1000
.01                    10000
1                       100000

So, potentially, the money value represented by CGB's total coins is $100,000,000,000  (Do you know how many countries have a money supply of worth $100 trillion...heck, how about $100 billion?  Not many at all.)

Not saying 1 CGB will represent a value $100,000 at all.  But what I'm saying is that the dollar amount and total market supply represent the M1 money supply, which in turn can provide the stimulus for a strong M2 supply.

Let me know if I eased your concerns.  

Have a nice day :)


early miners have advantage if that coin succes, but what if that coin falls?!?! They waste their money


Good point, being 'early' isn't always a benefit.  It's a risk people take.  ;)

Very huge risk, cuz in my oppinion you need huge amount of money to get your coin alive and get interest of ppl


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: NUFCrichard on November 17, 2013, 06:14:58 PM
Signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Mjbmonetarymetals on November 17, 2013, 07:27:26 PM
Signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Majormax on November 17, 2013, 08:16:55 PM

Not enough coins, huge advantage to early miners. Doubt it but good luck.
What advantage did Satoshi have mining early? Enough has been said.

Is this from crack?

Not enough coins for what?  For you?

Satoshi sat by himself and mined BTC for months...hell, BTC was a nerdy little secret for a year before reaching any kind of notoriety.  Don't give me that 'early miner benefit' bull shit. lol


The "not enough coins" argument is laughable, from a money supply perspective.  It shows mathematical ignorance.  Mainstream media also laughed at Bitcoin because it's "finite" but currency needs to be abundant so to flow, which is a statement of ignorance as well.

Here's some basic math to show it depends on the dollar amount and money supply.  And just an FYI, there are coins with half the supply of CGB on BTC-e.  


If you mapped a correspondence to the lowest denomination of CGB (one satoshi) to the lowest denomination of the USD (one cent), you get the following:

CB                  USD
.00000001        .01
.0000001          .1
.000001            1
.00001              10
.0001                100
.001                  1000
.01                    10000
1                       100000

So, potentially, the money value represented by CGB's total coins is $100,000,000,000  (Do you know how many countries have a money supply of worth $100 trillion...heck, how about $100 billion?  Not many at all.)

Not saying 1 CGB will represent a value $100,000 at all.  But what I'm saying is that the dollar amount and total market supply represent the M1 money supply, which in turn can provide the stimulus for a strong M2 supply.

Let me know if I eased your concerns.  

Have a nice day :)


early miners have advantage if that coin succes, but what if that coin falls?!?! They waste their money

Free market. Never a 'waste' when returns are potentially so high.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Majormax on November 17, 2013, 08:21:19 PM



Good point, being 'early' isn't always a benefit.  It's a risk people take.  ;)

Very huge risk, cuz in my oppinion you need huge amount of money to get your coin alive and get interest of ppl
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Small risk in my opinion, considering the rewards of success.

The winners in Digital Currencies will now be the ones who are prepared to take those risks with 'real' fiat money. 95% of players in the Alts have pennies or no money at all, and are scared of risking 50c.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: rampalija on November 17, 2013, 10:39:16 PM



Good point, being 'early' isn't always a benefit.  It's a risk people take.  ;)

Very huge risk, cuz in my oppinion you need huge amount of money to get your coin alive and get interest of ppl

Small risk in my opinion, considering the rewards of success.

The winners in Digital Currencies will now be the ones who are prepared to take those risks with 'real' fiat money. 95% of players in the Alts have pennies or no money at all, and are scared of risking 50c.
[/quote]

Now listen this:

IF you invent your new coin now, hot to make people to mine that coin. Ok little promotion bla bla....
Then next problem. How to make ppl to trade your coins when they dont know his price. OH solution: you have 50 BTCs to spare and you as anonim person will buy their coins for a reasonable price , and where they can make a profit. Then people get more interest in that coin and story continues.

But where did u get 50 BTCs spare?!?!  OH they came from the sky


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Lauda on November 17, 2013, 11:50:27 PM
You're going off topic, please stop.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Slingshot on November 21, 2013, 08:15:57 AM
Signed (Again)...



...So we are Back On Topic!


(Please let's stay on topic here)
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Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: elambert on November 21, 2013, 10:27:57 AM
I have sent another communication to BTC-e on behalf of the CB community  :)


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Killiz on November 22, 2013, 02:47:39 AM
I have sent another communication to BTC-e on behalf of the CB community  :)

Nice one elambert  ;)


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: transit on November 22, 2013, 05:46:28 AM
Signed.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: rampalija on November 26, 2013, 08:35:55 PM
still cant get enough signatures


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: elambert on November 26, 2013, 08:42:05 PM
I have a feeling BTC38 may be a better target considering exposure to China.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: rampalija on November 26, 2013, 09:21:04 PM
I have a feeling BTC38 may be a better target considering exposure to China.


if the criptsy get USD market and removes crap coins it will be good


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Slingshot on November 26, 2013, 10:12:48 PM
 The only crap is what you don't own yourself.


 This is a Decentralized Monetary Revolution. Get used to it.

 
 And get used to Crypsty's Business model. It's THE Winning Business model. The rest will fade out if they don't offer a complete Exchange Marketplace. Just see the leader in the Forex for why that is the case. (Oanda FX Trade).


 As for CryptoGenicBullion: It's my #1 holding out of 2 dozen Crypto's. I am extremely heavily weighted toward my top few holdings, with more weight towards CGB than any other Crypto. But I am not going to be so foolish as to think that there isn't room for many winners in a pool of over 200 countries and 7 billion souls. Diversification is wise. period. Especially in any emerging marketplace such as this one.


 What's the very best Crypto? CGB (CryptoGenicBullion). That's why I mined it more than all other Crypto's combined since I found and researched it last summer.


 But attempting to rein in a Decentralized Market is foolish at best. It's grown very old watching those attempt to keep beating on dead horses per say in a vain attempt to demand their greed over-ride everyone else. Centralized Control is exactly what Decentralization is targeting. Or did you forget that?



SIGNED AGAIN.



Caveat emptor



Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: rampalija on November 26, 2013, 10:38:21 PM
The only crap is what you don't own yourself.


 This is a Decentralized Monetary Revolution. Get used to it.

 
 And get used to Crypsty's Business model. It's THE Winning Business model. The rest will fade out if they don't offer a complete Exchange Marketplace. Just see the leader in the Forex for why that is the case. (Oanda FX Trade).


 As for CryptoGenicBullion: It's my #1 holding out of 2 dozen Crypto's. I am extremely heavily weighted toward my top few holdings, with more weight towards CGB than any other Crypto. But I am not going to be so foolish as to think that there isn't room for many winners in a pool of over 200 countries and 7 billion souls. Diversification is wise. period. Especially in any emerging marketplace such as this one.


 What's the very best Crypto? CGB (CryptoGenicBullion). That's why I mined it more than all other Crypto's combined since I found and researched it last summer.


 But attempting to rein in a Decentralized Market is foolish at best. It's grown very old watching those attempt to keep beating on dead horses per say in a vain attempt to demand their greed over-ride everyone else. Centralized Control is exactly what Decentralization is targeting. Or did you forget that?



SIGNED AGAIN.



Caveat emptor





lol you dont understand me, i said there are some crap coins which i meaned abbandoned coins on criptsy that worth nothing


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Ghepetto on November 26, 2013, 10:56:04 PM
-signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: rampalija on November 26, 2013, 11:16:14 PM
-signed


you have +1 from me :D  for sign


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Apraksin on November 26, 2013, 11:29:24 PM
Signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Killiz on December 03, 2013, 03:59:08 AM
Bump


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: X68N on December 03, 2013, 11:28:05 AM
CGB failed to place 20 on Volume.
I suggest that we better ask BTC to add Anoncoin, because it is now on Place 3 right after Bitcoin and Litecoin.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: zlatanuzman on December 03, 2013, 12:46:27 PM
signed


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Lauda on December 03, 2013, 01:13:41 PM
CGB failed to place 20 on Volume.
I suggest that we better ask BTC to add Anoncoin, because it is now on Place 3 right after Bitcoin and Litecoin.

How is this related to the petition?


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: X68N on December 04, 2013, 03:56:58 AM
CGB failed to place 20 on Volume.
I suggest that we better ask BTC to add Anoncoin, because it is now on Place 3 right after Bitcoin and Litecoin.

How is this related to the petition?
like i wrote it lost in Volume, so it is related that the argument of the first thread cant be used to convince BTC-e owners.
I dont think CGB is a bad coin, i just wanted to warn you. If you use the Volume argument they dont take you serious.
And reputation is lost easily, so even if it the Volume gains again it is likely that the ignore it.
So it is better to wait.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: Lauda on December 04, 2013, 06:46:56 AM
like i wrote it lost in Volume, so it is related that the argument of the first thread cant be used to convince BTC-e owners.
I dont think CGB is a bad coin, i just wanted to warn you. If you use the Volume argument they dont take you serious.
And reputation is lost easily, so even if it the Volume gains again it is likely that the ignore it.
So it is better to wait.
If CGB had a bit more volume, due to the number of coins the price would spike.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: X68N on December 04, 2013, 08:01:50 AM
but that was not the point. That argument could be used nearly on every coin.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: jamestown2035 on December 05, 2013, 02:41:53 AM
signed.


Title: Re: [CGB] Petition for listing CryptogenicBullion on BTC-e
Post by: X68N on December 11, 2013, 01:01:56 AM
signed.
for a 1-year membership on bangbros dot com??  :P