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Title: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: aqrulesms on November 15, 2013, 02:24:29 AM
After the good rally up to the mid 400s, it appears that we have pulled backwards and are struggling to reach the highs again.

Price is currently holding at around 420-30 for Gox, but how long will this last?

Where will we be short term after we see major movements again? Is it up or down?

Discuss where you think the price of BTC will be during the next major market movement.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: CMMPro on November 15, 2013, 02:28:53 AM
Holy shit...it stopped moving for what a couple of hours?

Relax....ffs. It doesn't have to be constantly ranging up or down.



Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: the_sunship on November 15, 2013, 02:29:59 AM
a little down, a lot up


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: aqrulesms on November 15, 2013, 02:35:08 AM
Holy shit...it stopped moving for what a couple of hours?

Relax....ffs. It doesn't have to be constantly ranging up or down.



Indeed, what I am talking about however is the imminent peak, which is the point of stagnation, as I would say. This is quite a high price already, and momentum appears to have already declined.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: bitcoin carpenter on November 15, 2013, 02:36:39 AM
My thoughts as well 15% down 100% up


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: djalexr on November 15, 2013, 02:37:34 AM
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/a7/a7708026cce5aafac25713e08db7a631a7f5b5ad158e3e8cab03ccb54c277b00.jpg


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: aqrulesms on November 15, 2013, 02:46:32 AM

Fortunately, I'm no longer holding my bitcoins.  ;D


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: MicroGuy on November 15, 2013, 02:49:01 AM
Where will we be short term after we see major movements again? Is it up or down?

I think we're going back to $250ish within the next 7 days!  :)


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: SheHadMANHands on November 15, 2013, 02:52:26 AM
Stagnation is a great thing now.  Shows confidence in the general price level.  People were saying the exact same thing you're saying when we sat over $200 for a while after "crash" from $230...  then we shot higher.

Sometimes even Bitcoin needs to "come up for air" (take a cooler).

People like you have to sell thought OP.  It's natural selection.. the folding out of the weaker hands.   ;D


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on November 15, 2013, 02:53:34 AM
Where will we be short term after we see major movements again? Is it up or down?

I think we're going back to $250ish within the next 7 days!  :)

See its random stuff like this that makes nobody take bears seriously.

There is absolutely no fucking way that we're going below the previous ATH, that much is plain to see. There might be an argument for it going down to $300 again, or even just-sub $300, but down to $250 is just insane.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: aqrulesms on November 15, 2013, 02:55:23 AM
Where will we be short term after we see major movements again? Is it up or down?

I think we're going back to $250ish within the next 7 days!  :)

See its random stuff like this that makes nobody take bears seriously.

There is absolutely no fucking way that we're going below the previous ATH, that much is plain to see. There might be an argument for it going down to $300 again, or even just-sub $300, but down to $250 is just insane.

It would be quite interesting to know what the future holds in terms of low prices. While $250 is admittedly insane to reach down to at the moment, what factors could lead to a devastating crash to that level and even UNDER that level?


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: Paladin69 on November 15, 2013, 03:01:14 AM
Where will we be short term after we see major movements again? Is it up or down?

I think we're going back to $250ish within the next 7 days!  :)

See its random stuff like this that makes nobody take bears seriously.

There is absolutely no fucking way that we're going below the previous ATH, that much is plain to see. There might be an argument for it going down to $300 again, or even just-sub $300, but down to $250 is just insane.

It would be quite interesting to know what the future holds in terms of low prices. While $250 is admittedly insane to reach down to at the moment, what factors could lead to a devastating crash to that level and even UNDER that level?

Profit-taking.

Volume is a lot lower than April.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: NamelessOne on November 15, 2013, 03:06:38 AM
It isn't stagnant, it is called consolidation and it is considered a good thing. There also seems to be a triangle forming since we hit $445, it should be finished in the next couple hours, breaking whichever direction it shall.  :D ;D 


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: TERA on November 15, 2013, 03:11:37 AM
It appears that arrangements of daily candles like this during previous bubbles result in a correction bouncing off of the daily long ema (now $300).


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on November 15, 2013, 03:15:54 AM

There is absolutely no fucking way that we're going below the previous ATH, that much is plain to see. There might be an argument for it going down to $300 again, or even just-sub $300, but down to $250 is just insane.


Just holding this for later use!


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: PumpkinCoin on November 15, 2013, 03:35:57 AM
I took out my purchase cost a few hours ago by selling some coins...  *not including my Casascius coins which are deeply in the money and which I may never sell.  I still have a bunch (most) of BTC/profit in this market.  The next time it dips significantly I will buy some more and repeat the process.  Wash and rinse until it doesn't work anymore or the price is ludicrous. 


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: Undefeatable on November 15, 2013, 03:59:54 AM
Its going up, up, up.... more people coming into the market then people selling...


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: bitboyben on November 15, 2013, 05:00:53 AM
Imho Monday there are a couple things going on that will move the price.
Hopefully the government gives it a thumbs up and we can continue on up.

I am ok with a nice even price for the rest of the month.
Nice to see the run up was sustained.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: BitchicksHusband on November 15, 2013, 05:14:05 AM
Fortunately, I'm no longer holding my bitcoins.  ;D

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/42300179.jpg


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: BitchicksHusband on November 15, 2013, 05:18:41 AM
Where will we be short term after we see major movements again? Is it up or down?

I think we're going back to $250ish within the next 7 days!  :)

See its random stuff like this that makes nobody take bears seriously.

There is absolutely no fucking way that we're going below the previous ATH, that much is plain to see. There might be an argument for it going down to $300 again, or even just-sub $300, but down to $250 is just insane.

It would be quite interesting to know what the future holds in terms of low prices. While $250 is admittedly insane to reach down to at the moment, what factors could lead to a devastating crash to that level and even UNDER that level?

The complete failure of bitcoin, at which point, could you please buy my coins?


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: BitchicksHusband on November 15, 2013, 05:21:02 AM
I took out my purchase cost a few hours ago by selling some coins...  *not including my Casascius coins which are deeply in the money and which I may never sell.  I still have a bunch (most) of BTC/profit in this market.  The next time it dips significantly I will buy some more and repeat the process.  Wash and rinse until it doesn't work anymore or the price is ludicrous. 

See?  Now here is a reasonable bear that I can respect.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: windjc on November 15, 2013, 08:32:10 AM
It appears that arrangements of daily candles like this during previous bubbles result in a correction bouncing off of the daily long ema (now $300).

Consolidation at or near highs has resulted in corrections bouncing off daily long ema? Can you give some examples?  Consolidation at highs, especially those forming a triangle typically are bullish.  This consolidation does not have the typical arc or time period associated with other corrections I have seen.

Can you show me which ones you are referring to?


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: aazssx on November 15, 2013, 08:51:25 AM
Down to $300-$350, rebound after the weekend.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: Chainsaw on November 15, 2013, 04:51:07 PM
Bitcoin loves to surprise. The market adapts with surprising speed.

There is a significantly greater-than-average number of posts assuming the "weekend crash" is inevitable.

I think we've been in a holding pattern as everyone is waiting and watching to see if that's true. Waiting for it to go down so they can buy back in.

Which is exactly why I don't think it's going to happen.

I speculate that sometime, before this weekend is over, the next upswing occurs.
In concrete terms - we're rising above $500 (and holding) before midnight on Sunday.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: mgio on November 15, 2013, 04:58:00 PM
I've been selling some of my coins, 50 a day for the past 4 days now. Not that I think it's going to crash but Bitcoin is INCREDIBLY risky and  an all-time high is a good time to take some profits.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: Chainsaw on November 15, 2013, 05:02:44 PM
Agreed. With a withdrawal strategy (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqpoRK3q-_aKdHdwd0VubzdJbkQ5OF9GRlplVXRVY2c&usp=sharing#gid=0) based on predefined sell points, new all time highs are the only time that sales occur.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: Xer0 on November 15, 2013, 06:45:55 PM
Holy shit...it stopped moving for what a couple of hours?
Relax....ffs. It doesn't have to be constantly ranging up or down.
but that's Bitcoin  :'(


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: PumpkinCoin on November 15, 2013, 09:28:23 PM
I took out my purchase cost a few hours ago by selling some coins...  *not including my Casascius coins which are deeply in the money and which I may never sell.  I still have a bunch (most) of BTC/profit in this market.  The next time it dips significantly I will buy some more and repeat the process.  Wash and rinse until it doesn't work anymore or the price is ludicrous. 

See?  Now here is a reasonable bear that I can respect.

I'm not a bear.

I'm agnostic on the future of BTC.  It would seem to turn into something monumental but could easily be derailed into something ultimately trivial.  Meanwhile, I think BTC goes over $1k in the next few months.

I have no idea what the ultimate highs are.  I would rather just throw some money at it on the corrections and see what happens.  Maybe that's just how I justify it in my head.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: ajw7989 on November 15, 2013, 09:33:02 PM
I am very cautious now with the current price. I personally think it jumped up way too high way too quickly to be stable. If this happened over the course of months ok but 40-50 a day is not reasonable for stability purposes. I am sure a lot of people are like me though and once it pops people will buy so do not expect it to dip too low. I dont think it will go lower than 200 maybe even 300.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: BarkinTree on November 15, 2013, 09:35:46 PM
I am very cautious now with the current price. I personally think it jumped up way too high way too quickly to be stable. If this happened over the course of months ok but 40-50 a day is not reasonable for stability purposes. I am sure a lot of people are like me though and once it pops people will buy so do not expect it to dip too low. I dont think it will go lower than 200 maybe even 300.
the question for me is what happens after the first bounce. i think we will deff bounce > previous ATH, maybe 300 or so, but i think we will see a down channel after that. i just wonder if we'll see a double bottom there or if support is not robust enough. sure, lots of people want to buy coins. but lots of people want to buy them a lot cheaper too.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: fleabag on November 15, 2013, 10:13:58 PM
Holy shit...it stopped moving for what a couple of hours?

Relax....ffs. It doesn't have to be constantly ranging up or down.



lol


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: phlogistonq on November 15, 2013, 10:44:22 PM
There is a significantly greater-than-average number of posts assuming the "weekend crash" is inevitable.

I think we've been in a holding pattern as everyone is waiting and watching to see if that's true. Waiting for it to go down so they can buy back in.

Which is exactly why I don't think it's going to happen.

No, that is exactly why it is highly likely to happen.
All the sheep want to try to gain a few coins in the dip, and will mass sell during the selloff hoping to buying lower.

Also, this rally has attracted a lot of new people, so the effect of 'old'-timers adapting is reduced.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: PumpkinCoin on November 15, 2013, 11:18:50 PM
There is a significantly greater-than-average number of posts assuming the "weekend crash" is inevitable.

I think we've been in a holding pattern as everyone is waiting and watching to see if that's true. Waiting for it to go down so they can buy back in.

Which is exactly why I don't think it's going to happen.

No, that is exactly why it is highly likely to happen.
All the sheep want to try to gain a few coins in the dip, and will mass sell during the selloff hoping to buying lower.

Also, this rally has attracted a lot of new people, so the effect of 'old'-timers adapting is reduced.


dudes picking up a couple of coins because of the news would prolly just buy as soon as they could- as soon as their account is turned on- regardless of technical conditions.  I would also postulate that they would tend not to trade in and out of their coins and would just hold come hell or high water or until they bored whichever comes first.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: lucaspm98 on November 15, 2013, 11:23:13 PM
Calm down. Personally I believe it will go down somewhere between 200 and 300 then shoot back up to new heights, but even if it doesn't come back up it will still higher than it was a few weeks ago. It just isnt possible to double in value every few weeks, so dont except it to shoot up in a straight line constantly. In the long run they will probably rise. Buy/mine and hold has been the most profitable strategy so far and I'm confisent it will continue to be the best option.


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: Rupture on November 16, 2013, 12:16:06 AM
To the moon!  ;D


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: Xer0 on November 16, 2013, 12:43:30 AM
and beyond!


Title: Re: We are now stagnant, which way will we go afterwards?
Post by: AndrewWilliams on November 16, 2013, 08:34:27 AM
Christmas is around the corner  ;D


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