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Why has there been no message from the owner? Does he have a forum account?


All the info I could get

Registrant:
 MyBitcoin, LLC
 Main Street
 PO Box 556
 Charlestown, Nevis
 KN

 Domain name: MYBITCOIN.COM

 Administrative Contact:
    Williams, Tom 
    Main Street
    PO Box 556
    Charlestown, Nevis
    KN
    +6499518329
 Technical Contact:
    Williams, Tom 
    Main Street
    PO Box 556
    Charlestown, Nevis
    KN
    +6499518329

 Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
 Record last updated on 27-Mar-2011.
 Record expires on 25-Apr-2012.
 Record created on 25-Apr-2010.

 Registrar Domain Name Help Center:
    http://tucowsdomains.com

 Domain servers in listed order:
    NS2.SYSTEMDNS.COM   
    NS3.SYSTEMDNS.COM   
    NS1.SYSTEMDNS.COM   

 Domain status: clientTransferProhibited
                clientUpdateProhibited

Not that I can find.  There are a couple of old newbie accounts, but they are not likely the account of the owner of Mybitcoin.com.  It's entirely plausible that Mybitcoin.com has been running on automatic for some time, and he simply hasn't checked up on it in a while.  Has anyone bothered to call him?

Good question lol. I haven't

Better question to be why were people trusting the service (with ALOT of bitcoins in some cases), when noone even knew who the owner was.

Honestly, i didn't think of that myself  ;D

I just tried, and the phone number is invalid. Maybe i got something wrong, trying to call from Germany.

The only other option is to go sit by his PO box and wait for him to come check it.

Seems like a US number but check out where his address leads to. He lives in the Caribbeans!

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&biw=1600&bih=767&q=charlestown%20kn&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=441l3010l0l4855l4l4l0l0l0l0l196l550l1.3l4l0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

yes people have tried to call.

people are also calling his host.

so far people watching the blockchain have not seen their money move.

I've given bad numbers for whois before as well.


I think this is the most likely scenario but it has been a few days so the likelihood of this will drop with each day.

Maybe the guy died, and his hosting has expired..

Hence why the server was disconnected.

Anyone got any information from the host ?

Doesn't expire until next year..

Unless you have more details (and I don't know why the host would have given out that kind of customer information), you're referring to the domain and not to the hosting.

The hosting can expire while the domain is still active.

my mistake 

He tried to warn you.


www......mybitcoin.com


they're his bitcoins, now

lol

Your closest link to MyBitcoin would be Bruce Wagner, who had him as an advertiser and supposedly knew the owner

http://onlyonetv.com/category/shows/

Hahahaha!!!!  Genius!

I don't think Bruce Wagner had him as an advertiser or on the show, I have never seen it advertised!

He has me beat..

I hate to say "I told you so", but why were you people using MyBitcoin in the first place?  By far the largest advantage of Bitcoin is its centralized nature.  If you're going to give that up, you might as well not use Bitcoin at all.  Hell, I know we all hate PayPal, but if I'm going centralized, I trust them a lot more than some random site like MyBitcoin that it turns out we don't know anything about.  PayPal, meanwhile, is owned by eBay, has thousands of employees, and is publicly traded.  They're not just going to disappear.  MyBitcoin, well, .... poof!

haha lol.. ;-P

Your signature:


Uhm, i mean, "security auditing" and you trusted all your money to mybitcoin?  ???

Are you, like, serious? Or is this some really funny signature and i just didn't get it?  ;D

Agreed, i have an education in telecommunication systems, and my phone doesn't even work at home  ;D

@qwk .. its a joke. I can imagine allot of people have lost all theirs though.

The amount I have lost in mybitcoin is around the cost of a steak dinner.

All I see is an empty estate. Maybe he just built his home and now needed some money to pay the bills?

lol.. legally.. they have stolen nothing
.
bitcoin is not legal tender, so no laws apply to it.. best you can do.. is harass and ddos the isp, until they take action (eg. disclose the billing information) , then you can go an kneecap the guy.

double LOL

Well obviously you are a natural in the law department, but I'd just like to remind you that theft is accountable when it comes to more than just your precious paper money.

WOW Gold is a horrible example people keep using w\ different topics relating to bitcoin.

WOW Gold is owned by Blizzard entertainment.  If you're trying to sell THEIR property, they have a problem.  Bitcoin is not owned by a company and is not subject to the same copyright terms that WOW gold falls under.

Appreciate you for your efforts. Don't give in to any of these people, your doing the right thing.

honestly are you going to spend us$100 000 to investigate and launch a civil suit against the owner ?

Move on and work on your own ideas, you have some good ones.

next thing.. you realize bitcoin income is taxable ? and most likely you have broken tax and foreign exchange laws ?

Revenue services would love a bunch of affidavits from bitcoiners

**not directed at anyone specific**

Just for the record, Blizzard is setting up an official auction house which will allow its users to sell their in-game assets for cash, starting with Diablo 3.

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2011/08/01/diablo-3-to-allow-trading-gold-and-items-for-real-world-cash

a private investigator and lawyers cant do anything except gather information and write letters.

Case would have to go before a judge before anything can happen.

Next.. under the eyes of the law.. mybitcoin is innocent until proven otherwise.

The contract/tos/eula will then have to be examined by a contract lawyer, and then you have to prove the contract was violated etc etc.

Lawyers are pay per an hour, every expert is pay per hour, judge, court, etc.. it ads up fast.

btw: nice projects

It's even more complicated than that.  You're talking about a niche area of the law across multiple jurisdictions.  Your average "first consultation free" lawyer isn't likely to have expertise in the area of digital goods and services, let alone be familiar with the inner workings of contract law in other countries.  You'd literally need to hire a local lawyer to assess the merits of the case in each jurisdiction where you're considering taking action.  Even if you did somehow manage to find a lawyer willing to take the case on contingency and you did prevail in court, enforcing a judgment is another matter entirely.

From a lawyer's point of view, it's not going to be an attractive case to take on contingency, both because there's no 'deep pockets' defendant and because it's highly likely that the company's assets are located in a safe haven which won't domesticate the orders of a foreign court.

While I'm sure a private investigator can be found who's willing to take money for trying to track down the location of "Tom Williams", I question whether they're any more likely to come up with concrete, usable information than 4 chan would given the same starting point.

Let me offer the names of two lawyers, Trace Mayer and Bill Rounds, who are the proprietors of Howtovanish.com
 (http://www.howtovanish.com/about/contact/)  (takes you to their contact page)
There is a good chance they may be familiar with the ins and outs of Nevis corporations. After all, they know how to vanish!  Also, they accept bitcoin.  How cool is that?