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Roger Ver and his site Bitcoin.com not only do an every day social attack to Bitcoin but now they try to misleading ppl that want to use Bitcoin to use an altcoin.

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Add to this that he rename Bitcoin to Bitcoin come and that he rename the altcoin bcash to Bitcoin
Imo this is a pure social attack to Bitcoin.

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Bitcoin core! That's funny. It's annoying such propaganda and misleading terms are sitting on the domain Bitcoin.com, but anyone who is seriously interested in Bitcoin and does their research will soon know that Roger Ver has been trying to push his agenda via misdirection for a very long time now.

I guess we have to rename the forum to bitcoincoretalk.org

i really like to ask this guys what is the name from ppl that use knots or bcoin or other code than core :P How they name their bitcoin version? BitcoinBcoin and BitcoinKnots? :D

You can look at this website: http://onepunchforver.com

Roger Ver is only using the influence that the section of the crypto community gave him including the one you are also doing now. I have not gone to his site, I don't know he changed anything, I also didn't know he is influencing decisions but now I know and several others that would read the thread and wants to either Google him or find more about him. The fact is he is entitled to his opinion which he can share as he so wish.

On his attacks, only someone who is a newbie would not know the side he belongs to. He has taken a side and what he is doing is not an attack on bitcoin but rather justifying his belief on the side he has chosen to take while others who know the real bitcoin if you cannot defend your own position, the best is to ignore him and his antics all together.

Didn’t notice this before, sly trick that is calling (BCH) Bitcoin. The filthy bastard.

who are those who were defending Roger Ver yesterday saying his site and twitter,... are not lying and it is clear that they call it bitcoin "cash"! here is proof that he is in fact being deceitful and he has not accepted his defeat yet and is continuing to mislead people...

I mean I don't think it's an issue that there are two lines of thinking when it comes to bitcoin and what we should do to scale. I don't support misleading people, but I do think that it is necessary to have different lines of thinking when we're getting into such big money things which is scaling.

We may not like Ver, but we should be open to listening to his opinion and what his followers think. If we don't we're going to have a civil war in bitcoin, because there are a lot of people that do support his point of view.

Roger is a sneaky guy..he's doing everything in his power to dethrone btc, but the community is smarter than he thinks. These social attacks can only strenghten btc in the long run.

the title bitcoin jesus made him really take that title seriously and began to impose his ideas, as the community did not obey him so he was revolted and spreads his venom in every possible corner, unfortunately he does not accept democracy, just see that on his site there are no bad comments about bitcoin cash, will it be possible that everyone working on their site has no different opinions? I do not believe.

this is epic:


I'll keep it on my computer whenever I'm sad to see this photo and make me laugh

I have seen his bch stickers on bus stops and coffee shop windows.
They have the "bitcoin.com" url on them to make people who don't know it is not really bitcoin go to his site and support bch instead.
Pretty misleading to the general "not in the know" public about which one is which. :-\

Bitcoin holders don't fully realize yet but we are under a huge organized attack by Roger Ver. This is bigger than anything we experienced till now.

Don't use any services or buy products from Roger Ver and Jihan Wu have partnered with. Blockchain.info, btc.com, bitcoin.com, bitmain, bitpay are first to come to my mind.

Well what do you expect to a madman who did lose his faith to bitcoin? he is claiming his Bcash to be the real bitcoin which is funny because it aint going to happen because if it does its the end of our market sa he can control the whole market with his bcash.His head might be broked as of the moment that is why he is doing shit things.

It's currently being spread around twitter, and multiple people are trying to spread awareness that this is misdirection by Roger Ver. Although, this might fool some people Roger Ver has got the lose the remaining credibility that he had before attempting this. (thats even if he had any...)

Is this a recent thing or has this been like this for a while? I don't visit his trashy political movements.

we must not forget that every time they do this full social attack to Bitcoin the same time Roger Ver and Bitmain manipulate the market and pump the bcash shitcoin.
Take a look to the patent

https://i.imgur.com/ZUkifTk.png

My bet is that at some point someone with a lot of BTC is going to sell the lot to buy BCH and try and invert the pricing. At that point, I'm going to sell lots of my BCH - but not all, just in case they succeed.

How much would it take - a few tens of thousands of Bitcoins a day? There are a fair number of people around with wallets that size.

I don't really care if someone is pro Bitcoin Cash and claims it's better than Bitcoin. Bitcoin Cash may have it's uses it's the fact that there's clear manipulation and misdirection going on here.

Interesting. I don't really normally take notice of Roger Ver and his manipulation techniques, but it's interesting to see a graph which highlights that when it's a down trend of Bitcoin cash he makes public claims I assume that Bitcoin cash is Bitcoin. Although, I'm assuming that this misdirection over at his website is a new addition into his propaganda.

bitcoin knots is just a sheep node. made by a core member to pretend that there are other choices. but all knots offers is GUI changes, but will never be used as a decentralised choice of a consensus rule chance(upgrade) to oppose core.

core control the rules.

as for the brand name bitcoin.
NO ONE owns the brand name.. thats the whole point of decentralisation. so pretending that bitcoin core should own the brand name is like america arguing that australia should never say that australians use the dollar.. like america saying that canadians should never use the dollar. and that the only real dollar is the american dollar and all other dollars are fake and not to be trusted.

"dollar" is not owned by any country
"bitcoin" is not owned by any team

some argue this
(a)             _________   1
__________/_________   2

some argue this
(b)
____________________  1
               \__________  2

reality is this
(c)
                __________ 1
_________/
              \___________ 2

silly sheeppeople that want to defend a central team are fighting A and B
1 'we are the bitcoin
2 no we are the bitcoin

the reality is everyone is bitcoin. now accept no single team owns the brand because no team should. thats what decentralisation is
so 1 your bitcoin cash
so 2 your bitcoin core

future conversations will be like
we accept dollars... "is that US or canadian"
we accept bitcoin.. "is that core or cash"

america does not solely own the dollar
core does not solely own bitcoin

now get on with your lives

He shouldnt be trusted as he wants to over rule the whole cryptocommunity using his shitcoin,he claims it all the time that his bcash is the real and only bitcoin what a jerk,his cash wont be created without the original code of bitcoin which satoshi has created.Claiming to be the original is bullsh*t as you can see his bcash has only faster tx confirmations and bigger blocksize.

Roger ver is doing that from the start or the first day of BCash in the market that is why it isnt something new to the people there.His aim is to surpass bitcoin's value so that he can easily manipulate the whole market as we all know bitcoin wont be destroyed or stolen,which is why it wont be dethrone by any altcoins as it is the main trading pair of each coins.

you can all get used to this garbage, the issue is clear, creating a new bitcoin is very profitable much more profitable than actually to create goods and services for it or shall i rather say easy,

there will be neverending propagandistic attacks till the entire industry looses all its trust and dissolves.

there were historical examples of this than ended in large scale genocides, but i am not going to tell about an example.

currently we are beeing ruled by the fixation of coinmarketcap, the established blog media. the overregulated financial systemmakes it impossible to get a banking license and all would love to have one. as money is power btw.

regards

Dont mind that douche,he will just stop using it if he got tired of waiting for nothing we shouldnt be supporting this man as he has evil plans to cryptocurrecy market using his BCash,i couldnt imagine how this person keep making it up to himself,he isnt going to do anything good in our market because he only wants to have this businesses.

Roger Ver is now the bitcoin Antichrist and he would only do like that always.Definitely most of newbies would get confused on seeing such descriptions that Bitcoincash is true bitcoin and bitcoin is only bitcoincore.Some may even end up in buying BCH thinking that they are buying the most revolutionary bitcoin and that they had become the owners of bitcoin from then.If they do a little bit more search,then they might be saved.

there will always be a bitcoin antichrist, as its a trial to compete over market attention with bitcoin, they will however collapse as soon as the us dollar becomes unsecure in value.

If Roger is putting out misleading documents he should be removed by the system and i do not think that will happen and since he is active in social media news there is no surprise as there is a rivalry between them for a very long time and sure the remarks made by Roger are misleading and they are planning to grow farther.

What we should start considering now is a class action lawsuit. More and more poor newbies are lossing their hard earned money by buying BCash, as misguided by Roger Ver, when the poor newbies think they just got their first Bitcoins. This is simply insane.

Granted, people should do their homework before buying, but let's try to empathize for once and you'll see how it's normal that if you see Bitcoin.com, twitter.com/Bitcoin and other websites telling you to buy, you may buy and when you realize it's an altcoin it will be too late, we could avoid this by reporting the twitter account as I suggested here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3369820.msg35308628).

I called Roger Ver as a opportunist after copying the bitcoin he want to destroy it by making FUD but it will no happen it because immitation will no longer better to original Fake remain fake. Roger need to work out what the use case of bitcoin cash rather than make FUD Bitcoin for the sake of his own coin.

#Taklimakan

so many narrow minded people.. cant see beyond their brown nose

look at the big picture
here is the arguement
"OMG team 2 wants to use the brand bitcoin.. lets report/ban/lawsuit  them so we hand the brand to team one"
cant you even see the reverse psychology of the propaganda finger pointing..

you fools are playing right into the hands of centralising bitcoin into one team.

look beyond the which team should own bitcoin. and remember NO TEAM should own bitcoin.

bitcoin should have NO central point
bitcoin should have Nothing to be attacked because there is no single point

but by you defending core and declaring core the central point, by saying core should own bitcoin you are not keeping the community decentralised.

the reality is. if your storing a blockchain that goes all the way back to satoshi's genesis block of 2009 everyone is bitcoin.
 
now accept no single team owns the brand because no team should. thats what decentralisation is
so there exists bitcoin cash
so there exists bitcoin core

future conversations will be like
we accept dollars... "is that US or canadian"
we accept bitcoin.. "is that core or cash"

the US wont sue australia to make australia stop using "dollar"
the US wont sue canada to make canada stop using "dollar"

think with a rational decentralised mindset. stop thinking about protecting the core team

He is just a criminal scum as he always was.

He was pro bitcoin when he was benefiting from it. After he became rich and asked for more (he wanted to become thee bitcoin, as there was nothing more to give), bitcoin couldn't give it to him (devs didnt do what he asked naturally since he is retarded) so he decided to create his own coin.

He knows his coin has no value in a world where bitcoin and litecoin exist and that's why he is aiming to destroy the real one with the hopes of becoming the real one.

meh, they are just pumping their coin! they know they can never destroy bitcoin or inflict any damage that lasts long term. these are just drama in the social media and while everyone is busy arguing about it, they are making a lot of money from their pump.
don't forget that Roger Ver may have created BCH but he is still one of the biggest bitcoin holders of our time ;)

In addition to satoshi, what I admire most is Roger ver, for the simple reason that satoshi created BTC, but Roger ver is the promoter of BTC.

Firstly your pic is on point
And secondly why is this guy allowed to do so? Isn't the name of Bitcoins itself monetized?
Cannot we just sue him ?
He is just trying to attack Bitcoins because he have now transferred all his funds in Bitcoins cash and now he is at a loss since the value is not increasing.
Can someone please find a way to counteract this?

(  🔫 Let's take him to a country where accidental shooting is common)

There is one which was filed against him and bitcoin.com for luring unbenounced people new in bitcoin saying it is the one and true bitcoin and they believed him and his sites proproganda.

He is not yet satisfied from what he get from a mushroom coin which just sprouted from nothingness.

He should be thankful for bitcoin which he used for that fork that made him a millionaire now.
He wont even have a bitcoin cash without the airdrop from bitcoin itself.

Greediness is what really takes over him. Somehow karma will be at him in an instant.

It has cost him and his alt coins creditability.
https://walletinvestor.com/magazine/lawsuit-is-being-organized-versus-bitcoin-com-for-misleading-novice-bitcoin-users/

Roger ver and his site bitcoin.com is too desperate to bring down this great and top coin to push the Bitcoincash..he will do anything just to make it possible even if it result to misleading people here in our communitu,this only mean one thing that he feels losing,the momentum never come his way

Roger Ver knew that in bitcoin core there are no top management since Satoshi had hidden himself. So Roger Ver who separated himself to bitcoin and has a huge stash of bitcoin cash is starting to make a move. His move is well planned since he knows that the team behind bitcoin will just stay in silent and will not stop him. Today we cannot feel the effects of his efforts but in the future if he turns out to be successful then probably bitcoin cash can surpass bitcoin, but if he fails bitcoin will stay at the top.

Well i don't think this guy enjoys as much support as he did when he first made a statement about bch being the real bitcoin. The pump last december made people forget about ver and bch and many stuck to the original bitcoin.

you can win like this or hijack just like this the most well known tech brand name in the world.
Remember my words. In 6 months we will laugh from months from Roger Ver.

I will not be affected from an article that I think is just a joke. eeing from the history of bitcoin price movements each year, any negative news that appears, bitcoin can always survive and even win the battle by showing a significant price increase from the influence of the news. So do not worry. Just remember that bitcoin is limited, limited assets will become scarce, and scarcity will increase prices.

Then why do you think this version of bitcoin increased by 35% in the last 24 hours? :-\
It is baffling on why this version of bitcoin is gaining so much interest and it is reflecting in it's worth.
Must be from it being in the news with these lawsuits happening but this should negatively reflect in it's use and not encourage it.
Very confusing what is going on with his bitcoin. ???

and why you think is important that this shitcoin has increase it value? There are dozens out there altcoins that increase much more their value.

This guy is promoting a well known shady exchange called bitxoxo - calling it the biggest exchange in India, which is a total lie.

The biggest exchanges India are Zebpay, Unocoin, Koinex (relatively new) etc..

bitxoxo is not even listed in coinmarketcap

News Report Link (https://btcmanager.com/roger-ver-of-bitcoin-com-calls-an-unknown-exchange-bitxoxo-the-largest-indian-exchange/)

Another attempt to catch newbie traders I guess..

Disgusting what is going on with BCash and Ver. Hardly anybody would be upset if he was trying to setup an alternative to Bitcoin, but trying to push it as the real Bitcoin? Not cool, and I really want to see the demise of Bcash now because of this. How one person can be this manipulative is beyond me and makes me want to puke :-\.

it seems bcash has lure the crème de la crème of Bitcoin and crypto communitty :P All the shadow, scammers, fraud ppl are now around bcash.

Let's hope that legal case brings us back at least the bitcoin.com domain. Ver doesn't deserve it.

its unlikely

roger ver interpreted simply differently there is freedom of oppinion in many countries and the judges dont like the greed of the bitcoiners as many banksters are allready printing money and lobbying against them.

this case will likely damage bitcoin as a whole.

Bitcoin for sure not need to protected with legal action against this scammers. Roger Ver and guys like hime are doomed to fail. In the other hand imo is free money from anyone that want to sue him.

very wise opinion.

I find him way to money motivated. His push for bigger block sizes was in my opinion all down to money. Bitcoin has been invented as a layer of trust to go on top of the internet, rushing this process will do nothing for the long term security. He is after a quick buck in my opinion and has been very short cited in his attacks on 'bitcoin core' If he is out there id like to thank him for his early contributions to the community but like many people who have attained high status roles in communities, becoming drunk with power happens all too often

I have  no interest in centralized Chinese shitcoins. 

oh get used to those, those will be the norm.

Roger probably believes he is more Satoshi than Satoshi himself, lol. He claimed that Bitcoin Cash is more legitimate Bitcoin than Bitcoin Core itself, which is quite funny considering that his fork is nothing more than an altcoin. That dude is no longer able to properly think or differentiate things. I somewhat feel sorry for him when I see him go nuts on his live streams, because I seriously believe he's struggling with a mild mental condition. It's just not healthy. On the other hand, Bitcoin doesn't need any advertisements to gain popularity, all shitcoins not being able to differentiate themselves from the crowd do. Let him do whatever he want, it's not helping him.