Title: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: Trance on November 19, 2013, 07:05:46 AM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2
This hash function was made by the NSA Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: beetcoin on November 19, 2013, 07:07:43 AM how did you come to that conclusion? maybe NSA created the technology that eventually led to BTC's inception, but that doesn't mean they created it.
TOR was created by the U.S. government.. so would you say the U.S. government created the .onion websites (such as SR and whatever other illegal websites there are). Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: Stake on November 19, 2013, 07:10:20 AM NSA made the series of SHA algorithms, and Bitcoin uses SHA-256 but by no means did the NSA create Bitcoin.
That's like saying the guy that created a basketball hoop created the NBA. Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on November 19, 2013, 07:11:24 AM Turing made the NSA. He even looks like one.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRmVpsMkld5UjNAWJQphVFLc0i3OjzQuKLGYy20K2xNtBuWtIu_ Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: empoweoqwj on November 19, 2013, 07:11:45 AM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2 This hash function was made by the NSA Congrats on this amazing discovery Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: AnonyMint on November 19, 2013, 07:20:20 AM There is actually a credible theory and some evidence that NSA researchers were the likely creators of BitCON.
But I can't find the thread readily. Obviously the OP is not evidence. Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on November 19, 2013, 07:28:01 AM There is actually a credible theory and some evidence that NSA researchers were the likely creators of BitCON. But I can't find the thread readily. Obviously the OP is not evidence. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250060.0 Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: Trance on November 19, 2013, 07:49:13 AM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2 This hash function was made by the NSA Congrats on this amazing discovery Bram Cohen = created BitTorrent, wonder if his friends made BitCoin Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: greenlion on November 19, 2013, 07:52:29 AM So let me get this straight.
The NSA created a revolutionary disruptive technology that is likely to fundamentally threaten the power of the very entities that they are in the business of protecting? Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: AnonyMint on November 19, 2013, 09:46:55 AM So let me get this straight. The NSA created a revolutionary disruptive technology that is likely to fundamentally threaten the power of the very entities that they are in the business of protecting? So far it seems to be not threatening at all and going according to NWO plans very well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=338975.msg3636026#msg3636026 Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: niothor on November 19, 2013, 09:55:09 AM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2 This hash function was made by the NSA So , ....... all things that use sha-2 are made by NSA? Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: corebob on November 19, 2013, 12:43:55 PM So let me get this straight. The NSA created a revolutionary disruptive technology that is likely to fundamentally threaten the power of the very entities that they are in the business of protecting? It could be a disgruntled former employee ;) Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: hayek on November 19, 2013, 12:49:34 PM Satoshi Nakamoto is an anagram for
I AM NSA TOOK OATHS Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: vesperwillow on November 19, 2013, 12:55:01 PM Does it even matter if they did? ::)
Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: kerogre256 on November 19, 2013, 01:16:48 PM yes
Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: lnternet on November 19, 2013, 01:27:18 PM American self defense industries were involved in creating a lot of things we use today.
Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: Littleshop on November 19, 2013, 01:28:27 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2 The NSA standardized it and guided it's creation but did not invent the concept of it. There were other (less secure) ways of doing this before SHA-2 not created by the NSA. This hash function was made by the NSA Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: BitcoinBarrel on November 19, 2013, 01:34:10 PM How to Make a Mint:
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm 1996 article by the NSA Cryptology Division Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: vesperwillow on November 19, 2013, 01:51:51 PM Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: Bzzzum on November 19, 2013, 02:04:56 PM How to Make a Mint: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm 1996 article by the NSA Cryptology Division Kindly thanks for sharing this. :) Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: bitcoinminer on November 19, 2013, 03:33:11 PM Here's what I think... BitCoin was made by the NSA to crack codes.
All of the private keys that were easy have already been cracked. Now we are cracking harder ones, and thus they are becoming more valuable. It is a free market solution to help them snoop on tougher and tougher encrypted things. Of course, I could be wrong, or it could just be the paint thinner talking. But wouldn't that be awesome? Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: vesperwillow on November 19, 2013, 03:59:53 PM Here's what I think... BitCoin was made by the NSA to crack codes. All of the private keys that were easy have already been cracked. Now we are cracking harder ones, and thus they are becoming more valuable. It is a free market solution to help them snoop on tougher and tougher encrypted things. Of course, I could be wrong, or it could just be the paint thinner talking. But wouldn't that be awesome? Similar ideas have been proposed before. If anyone saw the show Stargate Universe, remember they used crowd-sourced brainpower to solve algorithms. Same idea. Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: bitcoinminer on November 19, 2013, 04:10:52 PM Here's what I think... BitCoin was made by the NSA to crack codes. All of the private keys that were easy have already been cracked. Now we are cracking harder ones, and thus they are becoming more valuable. It is a free market solution to help them snoop on tougher and tougher encrypted things. Of course, I could be wrong, or it could just be the paint thinner talking. But wouldn't that be awesome? Similar ideas have been proposed before. If anyone saw the show Stargate Universe, remember they used crowd-sourced brainpower to solve algorithms. Same idea. Stargate Universe? Really? wow you must have gotten the brand name paint thinner. I've just been drinking this home depot brand bullshit. Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: vesperwillow on November 19, 2013, 04:12:55 PM Here's what I think... BitCoin was made by the NSA to crack codes. All of the private keys that were easy have already been cracked. Now we are cracking harder ones, and thus they are becoming more valuable. It is a free market solution to help them snoop on tougher and tougher encrypted things. Of course, I could be wrong, or it could just be the paint thinner talking. But wouldn't that be awesome? Similar ideas have been proposed before. If anyone saw the show Stargate Universe, remember they used crowd-sourced brainpower to solve algorithms. Same idea. Stargate Universe? Really? wow you must have gotten the brand name paint thinner. I've just been drinking this home depot brand bullshit. Yes, that's it, pointing to a storyline which used crowd-sourced crypto and brainpower to provide solutions is really out there. No bottom shelf thinner here my boy, just top shelf. ::) Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: cdtc on November 19, 2013, 04:37:34 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2 It could be easily true.All you need to control people is to make them believe that they are safe.This hash function was made by the NSA Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: greenlion on November 19, 2013, 06:05:33 PM How to Make a Mint: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm 1996 article by the NSA Cryptology Division At the time of this article all of these concepts were already well known outside of the intelligence community, this is not some relevatory smoking gun. There is no mention of any technological concepts in the article that were not already obvious in 1996 and there is not even a trace of the technological innovation that Bitcoin introduced to this conceptual framework (the blockchain and proof-of-work). Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: greenlion on November 19, 2013, 06:08:24 PM Here's what I think... BitCoin was made by the NSA to crack codes. All of the private keys that were easy have already been cracked. Now we are cracking harder ones, and thus they are becoming more valuable. It is a free market solution to help them snoop on tougher and tougher encrypted things. Of course, I could be wrong, or it could just be the paint thinner talking. But wouldn't that be awesome? This entire premise is based on such an absurd misunderstanding of mining that I'd never imagined was even possible. Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: vesperwillow on November 19, 2013, 06:28:31 PM Here's what I think... BitCoin was made by the NSA to crack codes. All of the private keys that were easy have already been cracked. Now we are cracking harder ones, and thus they are becoming more valuable. It is a free market solution to help them snoop on tougher and tougher encrypted things. Of course, I could be wrong, or it could just be the paint thinner talking. But wouldn't that be awesome? This entire premise is based on such an absurd misunderstanding of mining that I'd never imagined was even possible. http://www.troll.me/images/imagination-rainbow-dash/imagination.jpg Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: bitcoinminer on November 19, 2013, 06:38:45 PM Here's what I think... BitCoin was made by the NSA to crack codes. All of the private keys that were easy have already been cracked. Now we are cracking harder ones, and thus they are becoming more valuable. It is a free market solution to help them snoop on tougher and tougher encrypted things. Of course, I could be wrong, or it could just be the paint thinner talking. But wouldn't that be awesome? This entire premise is based on such an absurd misunderstanding of mining that I'd never imagined was even possible. I find your lack of faith disturbing, Captain Needa. Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: bitcoinminer on November 19, 2013, 06:39:46 PM Here's what I think... BitCoin was made by the NSA to crack codes. All of the private keys that were easy have already been cracked. Now we are cracking harder ones, and thus they are becoming more valuable. It is a free market solution to help them snoop on tougher and tougher encrypted things. Of course, I could be wrong, or it could just be the paint thinner talking. But wouldn't that be awesome? Similar ideas have been proposed before. If anyone saw the show Stargate Universe, remember they used crowd-sourced brainpower to solve algorithms. Same idea. Stargate Universe? Really? wow you must have gotten the brand name paint thinner. I've just been drinking this home depot brand bullshit. Yes, that's it, pointing to a storyline which used crowd-sourced crypto and brainpower to provide solutions is really out there. No bottom shelf thinner here my boy, just top shelf. ::) It was just a little too much nerd even for me. I mean, MacGuyver stargate, fine, but Stargate UNIVERSE? Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: Samoshi on November 19, 2013, 07:18:32 PM No. The NSA has not created bitcoin.
Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: Gator-hex on November 19, 2013, 07:43:58 PM Nice image of a Rainbow Table! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_table :P Bitcoin founders did meet the NSA (I'm pretty sure they said it in a YouTube video) and the NSA does fund startups. I suspect $atoshi's will be the new world order dollars. Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: indianplayers on November 19, 2013, 07:48:34 PM Oh great so now they are watching my coins.
Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: Raoul Duke on November 19, 2013, 07:48:52 PM Here's what I think... BitCoin was made by the NSA to crack codes. All of the private keys that were easy have already been cracked. Now we are cracking harder ones, and thus they are becoming more valuable. It is a free market solution to help them snoop on tougher and tougher encrypted things. Of course, I could be wrong, or it could just be the paint thinner talking. But wouldn't that be awesome? Miners only hash. Hashing is useless to "crack private keys". Ignorance is bliss, I suppose. ::) Satoshi Nakamoto is an anagram for I AM NSA TOOK OATHS And that's all the evidence you'll ever need and get... Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: hayek on November 19, 2013, 07:51:39 PM Here's what I think... BitCoin was made by the NSA to crack codes. All of the private keys that were easy have already been cracked. Now we are cracking harder ones, and thus they are becoming more valuable. It is a free market solution to help them snoop on tougher and tougher encrypted things. Of course, I could be wrong, or it could just be the paint thinner talking. But wouldn't that be awesome? This entire premise is based on such an absurd misunderstanding of mining that I'd never imagined was even possible. This is the Internet. We pioneer new lows for humanity every day. Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: AnonyMint on November 19, 2013, 08:55:49 PM If the NSA created it, it is likely because it puts all transactions on the public ledger so everything can be tracked and moves the world towards electronic money where the powers-that-be can deduct taxes at-will.
You can read more about this plan from Larry Summers and Paul Krugman here (even Bernanke is supporting this plan in comments yesterday): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=323988.msg3626642#msg3626642 http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/11/19/congressional-hearings-on-bitcoin/ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331325.msg3632396#msg3632396 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3041.msg3631376#msg3631376 Note Bitcoin can be taken over by the government quite easily in numerous different ways. You can review my past week of posts to find out how, e.g. Transactions Withholding Attack, etc... Title: Re: NSA made Bitcoin? Post by: Evolvex on November 19, 2013, 09:36:40 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2 This hash function was made by the NSA Congrats on this amazing discovery Bram Cohen = created BitTorrent, wonder if his friends made BitCoin I've considered that also, infact I think I'd favor them if I was had to pick "who dun it" (I'm refering to the cypherpunks, as believe he was one?). |