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Title: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: phlogistonq on November 19, 2013, 12:07:17 PM
Fundamentally, nothing really changed yesterday. So, the sharp peak yesterday should not be the ultimate high point of this ride.
We did need to catch our breath, as we had doubled in only 3 days.
I say we will back down a little, consolidate around $650-ish and then move further up.

It was very anticlimatic that we didn't test $1000 yet, at least on the USD exchanges.
We definitely should touch it before we can satisfactorily give it a bit of relative rest until spring.


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: wopwop on November 19, 2013, 12:10:11 PM
PLEASE STOP SELLING!


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: dave111223 on November 19, 2013, 12:10:46 PM
It's definitely in crash mode.  IMHO $350 here we come.


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: Tzupy on November 19, 2013, 12:11:29 PM
PLEASE STOP SELLING!

I don't sell, I wait for the bottom(s). And this is going to continue for several days, with ups and downs.  ;D


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: zeroday on November 19, 2013, 12:14:49 PM
It's definitely in crash mode.  IMHO $350 here we come.

Don't worry, another bear trap is in progress.
They are hoping to re-buy what they lost at previous trap  ;D


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: tutkarz on November 19, 2013, 12:17:22 PM
many people are investing after yesterdays hearing, it wont go below $600


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: zuerdemon on November 19, 2013, 12:17:43 PM
PLEASE STOP SELLING!


Quite opposite, please sell if you have balls, the exchanges need more coins or this volatility will continue


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: zeroday on November 19, 2013, 12:22:06 PM
Haha. How wise.
Sell now at $500, just to re-buy at $700 later :)


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: wopwop on November 19, 2013, 12:22:58 PM
Yes, sell now at 500, just to re-buy at 700 later :)
hehe everyone BUY. this is a bear trap I agree :)


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: nottorious91 on November 19, 2013, 12:29:35 PM
Yes, sell now at 500, just to re-buy at 700 later :)
hehe everyone BUY. this is a bear trap I agree :)

Someone is a bit desperate buying at $700 I take it?


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: dave111223 on November 19, 2013, 12:38:16 PM
Coming down fast, call the bottom.  Maybe $350 to high, $200?


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: pheaonix on November 19, 2013, 12:39:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_ONyukSLqA


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: phlogistonq on November 19, 2013, 12:40:46 PM
Wow, at least BTCe seems to think so. $390 and dropping faster than I can type. (375 when I finished this sentence...)


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: alishawkat on November 19, 2013, 12:40:53 PM
I call $200


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: pheaonix on November 19, 2013, 12:42:48 PM
meet you all at the bottom :D

spiralling down

sell while you can


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: dave111223 on November 19, 2013, 12:42:58 PM
Bounced off $400


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: dave111223 on November 19, 2013, 12:43:20 PM
Epic bear trap?


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: Jamievs on November 19, 2013, 12:43:27 PM
Wow $400 on bitstamp too


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: wopwop on November 19, 2013, 12:43:50 PM
Epic bear trap?
yep :)

gonna suck if you didnt buy these cheap coins. you'll see tomorrow, ppl crying they didnt buy HAHA


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: Morbid on November 19, 2013, 12:44:54 PM
wow impressive!


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: dave111223 on November 19, 2013, 12:45:00 PM
You got to be shitting me if this bounces back over $500


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: pheaonix on November 19, 2013, 12:45:26 PM
Epic bear trap?
yep :)

gonna suck if you didnt buy these cheap coins. you'll see tomorrow, ppl crying they didnt buy HAHA

to buy in this uncertainty is begging to lose money.


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: dave111223 on November 19, 2013, 12:46:03 PM
http://aliwanavenue.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/weeeh.jpg


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: pheaonix on November 19, 2013, 12:49:31 PM
i love lazy eyed tranvestites


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: phlogistonq on November 19, 2013, 02:02:16 PM
to buy in this uncertainty is begging to lose money.

To not buy means missing out on a great opportunity.
You'll be one of those 'I could have bought at $400, but now it is $10,000. I'm so sad, please give me some coins'.


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: Sage on November 19, 2013, 02:05:19 PM
Epic bear trap?
yep :)

gonna suck if you didnt buy these cheap coins. you'll see tomorrow, ppl crying they didnt buy HAHA

to buy in this uncertainty is begging to lose money.

Posts like these re-enforce my current buy signals.

Now's the time to buy folks.

But ya gotta have nerves of steel, and buy all the way through the dip.


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: BitcoinTraderFX on November 19, 2013, 06:39:06 PM
From a purely technical perspective (if going by the rules of the re-establishment of an uptrend) then bitcoin has to make it above the SR line that was formed.

http://www.bitcoincrystalballtrader.com/trap1.png


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: bassclef on November 19, 2013, 06:42:17 PM
to buy in this uncertainty is begging to lose money.

To not buy means missing out on a great opportunity.
You'll be one of those 'I could have bought at $400, but now it is $10,000. I'm so sad, please give me some coins'.

I bought near the top of the April bubble around $230. Felt a bit silly temporarily, but do I regret that decision? Nope!

I'm actually buying a little every week with disposable income. Dollar cost averaging.


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: BitcoinTraderFX on November 19, 2013, 06:47:38 PM
There are two perspectives you can take when it comes to all this stuff. The Investor perspective and the Trader perspective.

Investors are usually punished for going in and out because of transaction costs. The more they churn, the brokerage makes the money.

Traders overcome this by having higher accuracy, and profiting on the ups and downs in order to overcome the transaction costs (commissions).

*BUT* since the transaction costs of bitcoin trading are close enough to zero, a little optimal buying and selling isn't a bad idea.

Even if you simply bought at lower pivots, then used that pivot as a "get out" point, you wouldn't be hurt since the commissions are so low.


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: antimattercrusader on November 19, 2013, 06:55:15 PM
*Thud* what was that? Bump? Cat?


Best to navigate the bitcoin market with a lifted 4x4 truck.


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: N12 on November 19, 2013, 06:58:48 PM
BitcoinTraderFX, where do you trade with near 0 fee? Bitstamp and MtGox have very high fees, and they're the largest non-chinese exchanges.


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: favelle75 on November 19, 2013, 07:36:11 PM
It's definitely in crash mode.  IMHO $350 here we come.

I hope so.  I'd LOVE to double my position!  Sold at $740.


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: favelle75 on November 19, 2013, 07:36:38 PM

Dee Snider?


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: Kouye on November 19, 2013, 07:39:43 PM
Bitstamp :
Droped from over 600 to ~525 within a few minutes, and flew back up from 525 to 565 in less than a second.
Someone's still playing, I guess.


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: piramida on November 19, 2013, 07:41:26 PM
No, it's you don't know how exchange works. See, when the range is bought out, even 0.001 btc buy would move it all the way back.


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: matt608 on November 19, 2013, 07:45:48 PM
Its just a big bump in the road up the mountain.  Any crashes that happen today or in the next week wont keep the price down, it will rise back up very quickly, but they will occur.  It will take more than a few swings to get all the exchanges up over $1000, then we'll charge onto $2000 and probably reach around $3000, with the Chinese leading the way the difference between the exchanges will get larger and larger.  I'm using the btcchina prices here for my estimates, bitstamp will be around $2000 or even $1800 while btchina is up at $3000.  After that I don't know.  Maybe a crash to $1000 where we will settle or maybe a bit lower.  Haven't a clue where it will end up once things 'settle' if they even do settle.  It could just keep frothing madly upwards like this for a long time with more bull news spurring it on. 


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: ThatDGuy on November 19, 2013, 08:02:02 PM
You got to be shitting me if this bounces back over $500

Consider yourself shat!


Title: Re: bubble pop or just a bump in the road?
Post by: Boxman90 on November 19, 2013, 08:27:49 PM
Its just a big bump in the road up the mountain.  Any crashes that happen today or in the next week wont keep the price down, it will rise back up very quickly, but they will occur. 

Unfortunately Bitcoin had to be stubborn and chose the most dangerous route up, the steepest one with the 60 degree incline. Even the best of 4x4's has a high risk of tumbling off that cliff --> total loss

The first 25 seconds of this illustrates what I mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysbhhumSPCI

Best analogy ever imo