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Title: I am happy now
Post by: wobber on November 19, 2013, 01:46:53 PM
I was screaming the last 2 weeks "bubble" and nobody listened. People were delusional, thinking of new paradigms, prices of 10,000 USD and so on. But history repeated, bubble popped and lots of people are now at a loss. Sadly, that's the name of the overspeculation game.

I believe prices of more than 250 are unsustainable and we will eventually get even lower. China is not buying, it's speculating. It's playing. Chinese are mostly gamblers, not investors.

So, see ya at 300s


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: CMMPro on November 19, 2013, 01:48:11 PM
In other words...NAH NAH NAH I TOLD YOU SO....what a twat.


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: humanitee on November 19, 2013, 01:48:35 PM
I think you are tragically wrong, we shall see. It's too early to tell.



Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: alexeft on November 19, 2013, 01:48:52 PM
I was screaming the last 2 weeks "bubble" and nobody listened. People were delusional, thinking of new paradigms, prices of 10,000 USD and so on. But history repeated, bubble popped and lots of people are now at a loss. Sadly, that's the name of the overspeculation game.

I believe prices of more than 250 are unsustainable and we will eventually get even lower. China is not buying, it's speculating. It's playing. Chinese are mostly gamblers, not investors.

So, see ya at 300s

Oh!!!  :'(


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: /dev/null on November 19, 2013, 01:49:50 PM
It will come back to 200$ when US guys will start selling.. and most of them are already started doing now.


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: wobber on November 19, 2013, 01:50:03 PM
In other words...NAH NAH NAH I TOLD YOU SO....what a twat.

Somebody bought the coins I sold at 750?


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: GigaCoin on November 19, 2013, 01:50:18 PM
I was screaming the last 2 weeks "bubble" and nobody listened. People were delusional, thinking of new paradigms, prices of 10,000 USD and so on. But history repeated, bubble popped and lots of people are now at a loss. Sadly, that's the name of the overspeculation game.

I believe prices of more than 250 are unsustainable and we will eventually get even lower. China is not buying, it's speculating. It's playing. Chinese are mostly gamblers, not investors.

So, see ya at 300s

Actually i couldn't be happier if BTC is back to $250, a highly unlikely scenario but an amazing opportunity to buy more coins if it happens.


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: dancingnancy on November 19, 2013, 01:51:51 PM
I was screaming the last 2 weeks "bubble" and nobody listened. People were delusional, thinking of new paradigms, prices of 10,000 USD and so on. But history repeated, bubble popped and lots of people are now at a loss. Sadly, that's the name of the overspeculation game.

I believe prices of more than 250 are unsustainable and we will eventually get even lower. China is not buying, it's speculating. It's playing. Chinese are mostly gamblers, not investors.

So, see ya at 300s

You have been screaming for the past 2 weeks bubble, but we are at the price that BTC opened yesterday?  OK


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: CMMPro on November 19, 2013, 01:54:26 PM
In other words...NAH NAH NAH I TOLD YOU SO....what a twat.

Somebody bought the coins I sold at 750?

Not even close...I'm holding since before the April crash...not selling even one coin.


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: ajax3592 on November 19, 2013, 01:56:10 PM
Its going to crash over $250, SELL NOW !!


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: dalexc on November 19, 2013, 02:15:39 PM
1. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

2. We are still no where near the price bitcoin was two weeks ago.

3. You shouldn't be happy because other people lost money.


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: wobber on November 19, 2013, 02:19:29 PM
1. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Insinuating that I should say "bubblepop" just once a day? Or maybe just once per bubble?

2. We are still no where near the price bitcoin was two weeks ago.

Right, but more downside IMO. So in another 2-3 weeks, we might be lower than we started.

3. You shouldn't be happy because other people lost money.

I am happy because I was right, not because people lost money. I do feel sorry for them and I would advise them NOT to play money they not afford to loose. And not loose money they play.



Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: PenAndPaper on November 19, 2013, 02:22:32 PM
So, see ya at 300s

So you sold at 300 two weaks ago and you were feeling miserable all this time.

I 'm glad that you are happy and i guess that you bought back now right?


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: wobber on November 19, 2013, 02:24:03 PM
So, see ya at 300s

So you sold at 300 two weaks ago and you were feeling miserable all this time.

I 'm glad that you are happy and i guess that you bought back now right?

No, I got back in up to 400s and sold at 700s.


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: Davyd05 on November 19, 2013, 02:24:23 PM
1. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Insinuating that I should say "bubblepop" just once a day? Or maybe just once per bubble?

2. We are still no where near the price bitcoin was two weeks ago.

Right, but more downside IMO. So in another 2-3 weeks, we might be lower than we started.

3. You shouldn't be happy because other people lost money.

I am happy because I was right, not because people lost money. I do feel sorry for them and I would advise them NOT to play money they not afford to loose. And not loose money they play.


But you weren't right..


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: antimattercrusader on November 19, 2013, 02:25:39 PM
Finally, once this crash/correction is over with, hopefully we can get back to reality and experience stable growth. (Stable still being pretty damn impressive in the BTC world)


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: dalexc on November 19, 2013, 02:26:53 PM
1. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Insinuating that I should say "bubblepop" just once a day? Or maybe just once per bubble?

Insinuating that you shouldn't say it at all. Those who would have listened to you lost out on a great opportunity to make money.

2. We are still no where near the price bitcoin was two weeks ago.

Right, but more downside IMO. So in another 2-3 weeks, we might be lower than we started.

This I agree with. More downside most likely, but the original point still stands. People that made the investment two weeks ago are still up.

3. You shouldn't be happy because other people lost money.

I am happy because I was right, not because people lost money. I do feel sorry for them and I would advise them NOT to play money they not afford to loose. And not loose money they play.

You were not right if it still a winning trade.



Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: Ozymandias on November 19, 2013, 02:29:22 PM
1. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Insinuating that I should say "bubblepop" just once a day? Or maybe just once per bubble?

Insinuating that you shouldn't say it at all. Those who would have listened to you lost out on a great opportunity to make money.

2. We are still no where near the price bitcoin was two weeks ago.

Right, but more downside IMO. So in another 2-3 weeks, we might be lower than we started.

This I agree with. More downside most likely, but the original point still stands. People that made the investment two weeks ago are still up.

3. You shouldn't be happy because other people lost money.

I am happy because I was right, not because people lost money. I do feel sorry for them and I would advise them NOT to play money they not afford to loose. And not loose money they play.

You were not right if it still a winning trade.



Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: Hawker on November 19, 2013, 02:32:08 PM
I was screaming the last 2 weeks "bubble" and nobody listened. People were delusional, thinking of new paradigms, prices of 10,000 USD and so on. But history repeated, bubble popped and lots of people are now at a loss. Sadly, that's the name of the overspeculation game.

I believe prices of more than 250 are unsustainable and we will eventually get even lower. China is not buying, it's speculating. It's playing. Chinese are mostly gamblers, not investors.

So, see ya at 300s

You have been screaming for the past 2 weeks bubble, but we are at the price that BTC opened yesterday?  OK

Winner.

/thread


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: massivebitman on November 19, 2013, 02:34:31 PM
I was screaming the last 2 weeks "bubble" and nobody listened. People were delusional, thinking of new paradigms, prices of 10,000 USD and so on. But history repeated, bubble popped and lots of people are now at a loss. Sadly, that's the name of the overspeculation game.

I believe prices of more than 250 are unsustainable and we will eventually get even lower. China is not buying, it's speculating. It's playing. Chinese are mostly gamblers, not investors.

So, see ya at 300s

Hah!

Prepare to buy back higher my friend. There's no reason for this bubble to burst yet, it's only the beginning!


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: MicroGuy on November 19, 2013, 02:36:13 PM
https://www.gldtalk.org/devteam/crazy.png

I believe prices of more than 250 are unsustainable and we will eventually get even lower.

This make sense to me.

I think one of the major drivers of this will be the money spilling over to the altcoins. You can already see this happening with litecoin which so far is holding much of its gains. This trend is bound to expand as investors look to explore additional opportunities in other promising altcoins.


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: JimboToronto on November 19, 2013, 02:42:10 PM
In other words...NAH NAH NAH I TOLD YOU SO....what a twat.

+1

Price drops to where it was yesterday and he thinks it's June 2011 and April 2013 all over again. That's just foolish.

Then he brags about the happiness he feels from thinking Bitcoin is tanking because he thinks a bunch of strangers on the internet will see him as some sort of all-knowing guru. Pathetic.


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: Enira on November 19, 2013, 02:45:14 PM
I was screaming the last 2 weeks "bubble" and nobody listened. People were delusional, thinking of new paradigms, prices of 10,000 USD and so on. But history repeated, bubble popped and lots of people are now at a loss. Sadly, that's the name of the overspeculation game.

I believe prices of more than 250 are unsustainable and we will eventually get even lower. China is not buying, it's speculating. It's playing. Chinese are mostly gamblers, not investors.

So, see ya at 300s
What are you, are you twelve?  ???

You can keep screaming till you are right at this point.
If after a few years someone magically discovers a fundamental flaw that scares the shit out of people, or another thing comes along. You'll be there at the sideline too screaming: remember November 2013? I've said it that it was just a bubble.

You are the same person that watches friends having a relationship and always criticizes that they will break up, and when they eventually do so after a few years you will say that you knew it all along.
But the reality is that your friend gained experience in a relationship and had two years of sex in the meantime.

Take a good damn hard look at yourself.


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: damnek on November 19, 2013, 03:01:02 PM
Wobber is quite a figure. I recall that in 2011 he came here bragging that he made $20k in a single trade with bitcoinica (showing a screenshot). He didn't close his position while he was talking about it here and got wiped out within an hour. I guess he grew back some balls in those 2 years.. :)


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: NorbyTheGeek on November 19, 2013, 07:46:28 PM
I was screaming the last 2 weeks "bubble" and nobody listened. People were delusional, thinking of new paradigms, prices of 10,000 USD and so on. But history repeated, bubble popped and lots of people are now at a loss. Sadly, that's the name of the overspeculation game.

I believe prices of more than 250 are unsustainable and we will eventually get even lower. China is not buying, it's speculating. It's playing. Chinese are mostly gamblers, not investors.

So, see ya at 300s

You do know what "gain" and "loss" mean, don't you?

If I had bought 1 BTC at $400, and the price drops to $300, how much have I lost?  Nothing, until I sell that Bitcoin.

In the meantime, I still have 1 BTC.  And the market can do just about anything.  I don't lose (or gain) anything until I trade that coin.


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: Jungian on November 19, 2013, 07:53:00 PM
I was screaming the last 2 weeks "bubble" and nobody listened. People were delusional, thinking of new paradigms, prices of 10,000 USD and so on. But history repeated, bubble popped and lots of people are now at a loss. Sadly, that's the name of the overspeculation game.

I believe prices of more than 250 are unsustainable and we will eventually get even lower. China is not buying, it's speculating. It's playing. Chinese are mostly gamblers, not investors.

So, see ya at 300s

You do know what "gain" and "loss" mean, don't you?

If I had bought 1 BTC at $400, and the price drops to $300, how much have I lost?  Nothing, until I sell that Bitcoin.

In the meantime, I still have 1 BTC.  And the market can do just about anything.  I don't lose (or gain) anything until I trade that coin.

Well, that is not how it works. What something is worth is what you can trade it for, so if you bought it for 500$ and now can trade it for 400$, you made a loss in your trading power vs the dollar.

Maybe that trading power will shift, but at that moment you have made a loss.


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: zachcope on November 19, 2013, 08:04:33 PM
I was screaming the last 2 weeks "bubble" and nobody listened. People were delusional, thinking of new paradigms, prices of 10,000 USD and so on. But history repeated, bubble popped and lots of people are now at a loss. Sadly, that's the name of the overspeculation game.

I believe prices of more than 250 are unsustainable and we will eventually get even lower. China is not buying, it's speculating. It's playing. Chinese are mostly gamblers, not investors.

So, see ya at 300s
Quoted for yearly laughs this time in 2014,2015,2016,2017,2018....


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: NorbyTheGeek on November 19, 2013, 08:05:38 PM

You do know what "gain" and "loss" mean, don't you?

If I had bought 1 BTC at $400, and the price drops to $300, how much have I lost?  Nothing, until I sell that Bitcoin.

In the meantime, I still have 1 BTC.  And the market can do just about anything.  I don't lose (or gain) anything until I trade that coin.

Well, that is not how it works. What something is worth is what you can trade it for, so if you bought it for 500$ and now can trade it for 400$, you made a loss in your trading power vs the dollar.

Maybe that trading power will shift, but at that moment you have made a loss.

Ok, maybe I was thinking of realized loss.  I don't treat the devalued bitcoin as a loss until I trade it back to USD.


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: Tzupy on November 19, 2013, 08:21:13 PM
IMO the bubble has burst, and now we are in the capitulation phase. The rise from 503$ to 747$ was wave B (fake return to bull market),
but for now there still is a limited supply of coins in the market. And events unfold about 6 times faster than in April or June.
It is hard to predict a bottom, it depends on how many more coins will appear in the order books, but right now it seems the bottom will be
annoyingly high for bears like me, in the 350$ - 400$ region. I believe that the market won't know that it's capitulating until the last hours.


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: BittBurger on November 19, 2013, 08:28:54 PM
I was screaming the last 2 weeks "bubble" and nobody listened. People were delusional, thinking of new paradigms, prices of 10,000 USD and so on. But history repeated, bubble popped and lots of people are now at a loss. Sadly, that's the name of the overspeculation game.

I believe prices of more than 250 are unsustainable and we will eventually get even lower. China is not buying, it's speculating. It's playing. Chinese are mostly gamblers, not investors.

So, see ya at 300s

It wasn't not a bubble.

People simply bailed at 800 because that was their trigger number.  They'd been planning to do so all along.

Then people bailed at 900 because that was *their* trigger number.   They'd been planning to do so all along.

It will happen again at $1,000 probably much bigger.  

Bubbles imply overvalue.  That isn't whats going on.  

These are long term holders (several months, maybe years) finally hitting that crazy high they've been waiting for.

How did it get to that high?  Because that's what its worth.  

How do we know that?  Because we're back at $700+ already.

Bubbles don't recover instantly.  This one has.

Bubble was in April.  It spiked fast, it crashed fast, and it didn't recover for months.

Its less than 10 hours later now, and we are already back to 700+

It wasn't a bubble.  

You didn't tell us so.

Want proof?

Yesterday's Top Headline:

"Senior U.S. law-enforcement and regulatory officials said they see benefits in digital forms of money... US officials ... called it a "legitimate" financial service. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke... said... that virtual currencies "may hold long-term promise, particularly if the innovations promote a faster, more secure, and more efficient payment system."

Bitcoin bubble didn't burst.  Bitcoin is more legitimate and poised for long term success than it has ever been.

People just cashed out because it hit the high they were waiting for.


Title: Re: I am happy now
Post by: bitcon on November 19, 2013, 08:36:14 PM
the "bubble" starts after we hit $1500