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Title: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: kerogre256 on November 19, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
It's actually very easy, because only one person is compiling 'official' bitcoin client which is used by thousands users, force this person to corrupt, backdoor 'official' client and you can destroy bitcoin in just few second... and don't give me argument you 'can Compile it yourself' 90% use standard bitcoin-qt client.


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: qtronix on November 19, 2013, 02:47:54 PM
It's actually very easy, because only one person is compiling 'official' bitcoin client which is used by thousands users, force this person to corrupt, backdoor 'official' client and you can destroy bitcoin in just few second... and don't give me argument you 'can Compile it yourself' 90% use standard bitcoin-qt client.


wouldn't surprise me if that is how the prices are manipulated. money=greed


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: kerogre256 on November 19, 2013, 02:51:10 PM
It's actually very easy, because only one person is compiling 'official' bitcoin client which is used by thousands users, force this person to corrupt, backdoor 'official' client and you can destroy bitcoin in just few second... and don't give me argument you 'can Compile it yourself' 90% use standard bitcoin-qt client.


wouldn't surprise me if that is how the prices are manipulated. money=greed
you cant manipulate price this way...


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: tutkarz on November 19, 2013, 02:53:15 PM
It's actually very easy, because only one person is compiling 'official' bitcoin client which is used by thousands users, force this person to corrupt, backdoor 'official' client and you can destroy bitcoin in just few second... and don't give me argument you 'can Compile it yourself' 90% use standard bitcoin-qt client.


wouldn't surprise me if that is how the prices are manipulated. money=greed
you cant manipulate price this way...

price is falling, you are creating post (useless) about destroying bitcoin and saying that you are not manipulating, right :)

edit: and btw, it is really easy to check what new parts of code had been changed since last version. Even if most people are using pre compiled versions still someone would raise an alarm on the forums.


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 19, 2013, 02:55:36 PM
It's actually very easy, because only one person is compiling 'official' bitcoin client which is used by thousands users, force this person to corrupt, backdoor 'official' client and you can destroy bitcoin in just few second... and don't give me argument you 'can Compile it yourself' 90% use standard bitcoin-qt client.

I compile from source. So I'm the only one in the world?

Fail.


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: Bitemarx on November 19, 2013, 02:58:18 PM
It's actually very easy, because only one person is compiling 'official' bitcoin client which is used by thousands users, force this person to corrupt, backdoor 'official' client and you can destroy bitcoin in just few second... and don't give me argument you 'can Compile it yourself' 90% use standard bitcoin-qt client.

I compile from source. So I'm the only one in the world?

Fail.


Do you read source before compiling ? I used to but stopped when windows 95 was realeased.


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 19, 2013, 03:08:58 PM
It's actually very easy, because only one person is compiling 'official' bitcoin client which is used by thousands users, force this person to corrupt, backdoor 'official' client and you can destroy bitcoin in just few second... and don't give me argument you 'can Compile it yourself' 90% use standard bitcoin-qt client.

I compile from source. So I'm the only one in the world?

Fail.


Do you read source before compiling ? I used to but stopped when windows 95 was realeased.

Well no. But I sometimes look what changes have happened since last version.

You have to put some trust in at some stage. Be it hardware level, OS level or software level. There's no getting around it.
For example, do I check all the source code of Linux and compile it myself. Of course not. I take a leap of faith.



Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: BitVegas on November 19, 2013, 03:13:46 PM
If anything ever threatens Bitcoin on a major level that affects every users balance. The network can do a rollback to before it happened.

Yes it would be bad for many merchants to rollback transactions but if it's either that or have the entire network destroyed it can happen!

All you need is 51% of the miners to agree.

I guess my point is, if 51%+ of users don't want bitcoin to die.. it won't.


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: Meizirkki on November 19, 2013, 03:20:49 PM
I've read that the authenticity of the official binary is confirmed by many people before release (and anyone can do it afterwards too).

Include anything not in the public tree and itnwill be noticed very quickly.


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: Sage on November 19, 2013, 03:30:48 PM
It's actually very easy, because only one person is compiling 'official' bitcoin client which is used by thousands users, force this person to corrupt, backdoor 'official' client and you can destroy bitcoin in just few second... and don't give me argument you 'can Compile it yourself' 90% use standard bitcoin-qt client.

Perhaps you should google "open source" my friend.

...That's okay... you seem to be kinda new to this open source concept.  We'll give you some slack.


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: bobcaticus on November 19, 2013, 04:57:49 PM
It's actually very easy, because only one person is compiling 'official' bitcoin client which is used by thousands users, force this person to corrupt, backdoor 'official' client and you can destroy bitcoin in just few second... and don't give me argument you 'can Compile it yourself' 90% use standard bitcoin-qt client.

um. no.

it's not like in the movies where a person pushes the big red 'hack' button.

open source has a series of checks and balances with github builds.


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: corebob on November 19, 2013, 05:37:57 PM
It's actually very easy, because only one person is compiling 'official' bitcoin client which is used by thousands users, force this person to corrupt, backdoor 'official' client and you can destroy bitcoin in just few second... and don't give me argument you 'can Compile it yourself' 90% use standard bitcoin-qt client.

Thanks to open source, backdoors is usually found and fixed, and the one how did it is recognized.
What worries me more than bitcoind is the java binaries that some wallets depends on. Those java binaries can contain anything and nobody would know about it.
It is also possible to create laws that require you to add a backdoor and another law that prevents you from being honest about it.

The best tool we have is to require all crypto related software (and even hardware) to be open source


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: d'aniel on November 19, 2013, 05:39:05 PM
It's actually very easy, because only one person is compiling 'official' bitcoin client which is used by thousands users, force this person to corrupt, backdoor 'official' client and you can destroy bitcoin in just few second... and don't give me argument you 'can Compile it yourself' 90% use standard bitcoin-qt client.
No, they use gitian: https://gitian.org/ (https://gitian.org/)


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: kerogre256 on November 19, 2013, 05:44:23 PM
It's actually very easy, because only one person is compiling 'official' bitcoin client which is used by thousands users, force this person to corrupt, backdoor 'official' client and you can destroy bitcoin in just few second... and don't give me argument you 'can Compile it yourself' 90% use standard bitcoin-qt client.
No, they use gitian: https://gitian.org/ (https://gitian.org/)
Ok false alarm then ... 8)


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: Ecurb123 on November 19, 2013, 06:51:55 PM
how would one do a review of the qt client code? I know you can download it all but where to start?


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: 2double0 on November 19, 2013, 07:26:49 PM
how would one do a review of the qt client code? I know you can download it all but where to start?

Go to the official website maybe?


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: Ecurb123 on November 19, 2013, 07:34:20 PM
how would one do a review of the qt client code? I know you can download it all but where to start?

Go to the official website maybe?

that's correct, one could start there, but eventually what you'll find is a large collection of files and folders, which one to start with? I feel like the bitcoin-qt.pro might be a good start but is there some sort of architecture diagram of the structure out there?   


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: Ecurb123 on November 19, 2013, 07:48:31 PM
by the way, maybe I should start to read the stickys, this seems to be a good start to read:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41718.0


Title: Re: Destroying bitcoin is easy...
Post by: hayek on November 19, 2013, 07:58:42 PM
You know the only place you have to post stupid/pointless ideas is in the first five of the Newbie Section right?

Even if those 80% or whatever number you made up run bitcoin-qt and the code is subverted somehow those of us who "give you that shit" that we compile our own would then be rich.

So, please, destroy your coins. And don't give me that shit "LOL I ROLLED MAH FACE ON THE KEYBOARD BUT NOTHING WORKS"