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Title: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: RAMSHIVDEEPAK on April 25, 2018, 05:20:32 PM
If we make the following requirement for the different rank member.It may improve the post quality and also reduce the spam post.

Rank                          Required merit{ in a month or 60 post  }
Newbie                             1
Jr Member                         2
Member                            3
Full Member                       4
Sr. Member                        5
Hero Member                     6

If any member fail to achieve  above requirement in period of one month or 60 post which one is later,Then the member may be bannned to post for 7 days.


  


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: Anti-Cen on April 25, 2018, 05:41:29 PM
So how does that work with me who's in the lions den and does not go around patting people on the bum and whispering
sweet things in there ears about Bitcoin going to the moon, it's the best thing since sliced bread.

Forum = Open debate and unbiased moderators
Merits = Brown nose points, zero real debate.

If you want the place to become one big advert then keep going the way you are going but the butter will be spread on
so think that even a blind man will see it.

Regards

Anti-Censorship (Not your average troll) 


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: botany on April 25, 2018, 06:31:47 PM
If we make the following requirement for the different rank member.It may improve the post quality and also reduce the spam post.

Rank                          Required merit{ in a month or 60 post  }
Newbie                             1
Jr Member                         2
Member                            3
Full Member                       4
Sr. Member                        5
Hero Member                     6

If any member fail to achieve  above requirement in period of one month or 60 post which one is later,Then the member may be bannned to post for 7 days.

Look at the number of merits getting generated every month from the merit sources. Look at the number of accounts we have. This is a bad idea and Implementing some thing like this would be an epic fail.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: athanz88 on April 25, 2018, 06:49:38 PM
snip

Look at the number of merits getting generated every month from the merit sources. Look at the number of accounts we have. This is a bad idea and Implementing some thing like this would be an epic fail.

I agree with botany. This is not solution for now. The best solution i can think of for now is for merit sources or merit giver to have standard of merit giving, so it would fall to the hand of quality people, thuhs will creating a ripple of a good and high quality people for the forum. To do that smoothly, we also need to add more merit sources.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: Beerwizzard on April 25, 2018, 07:14:59 PM
snip

Look at the number of merits getting generated every month from the merit sources. Look at the number of accounts we have. This is a bad idea and Implementing some thing like this would be an epic fail.

I agree with botany. This is not solution for now. The best solution i can think of for now is for merit sources or merit giver to have standard of merit giving, so it would fall to the hand of quality people, thuhs will creating a ripple of a good and high quality people for the forum. To do that smoothly, we also need to add more merit sources.
This will never work, not just now. Imagine how someone is going away for vacations or simply not able to log in  to this forum because of any irl difficulties. Then after coming back this person is getting his account back banned / demerited / whatever else people are offering here. Sure, that will make the forum friendlier.
Also there are a lot of official accounts of different services. You don't have to reciece merits when you are only informing users about any updated but they are also risking.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: shield132 on April 25, 2018, 07:40:08 PM
Can't stop laugh on similar threads.
Are you under pressure to write posts?
How to write quality posts - what is quality for you? Do you have any question? Then ask here (but don't ask something like this: How to buy roses for girl with bitcoin or how to explain about bitcoin to uncle's father's brotherhood and etc).
Read news on cointelegraph, BBC and you'll understand what's gramatically, structurally and meaningfully correct.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: marlboroza on April 25, 2018, 08:19:14 PM
What about legendary members?

If any member fail to achieve  above requirement in period of one month or 60 post which one is later,Then the member may be bannned to post for 7 days.
Merit summary for RAMSHIVDEEPAK
Received in the last 120 days
April 03, 2018, 06:27:25 PM: 1 from Wipro for Merit sources should be increase in no.


You posted 62 times since then, don't you think you are the one who should be banned for a week?  ::)
Quote
Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
This is my suggestion:
- Don't think about post quality
- Don't think about merit
- Don't count characters
- Don't add new line because your post looks short
- Be yourself and be honest
Can you do that?

Brown nose points
;D


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: Anti-Cen on April 25, 2018, 10:31:00 PM
The best solution i can think of for now is for merit sources....

The best solution i can think of for now is to remove all the "Campaign Managers" and all traces of "Signature Campaigns" from this
forum because they are not only spamming FUD all over the internet but all over this site and they will say anything just to get merits to get
them started.

[mod note: removed off-topic content]
 


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: Tyrantt on April 25, 2018, 10:37:52 PM
I've got an even better idea. How about if someone fails to meet that requirement, we find them, beat them up and fire them from this forum for not trying hard enough to post and therefore not meeting the requirements.

Oh wait...


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: Silent26 on April 25, 2018, 11:05:01 PM
If we make the following requirement for the different rank member.It may improve the post quality and also reduce the spam post.
Seriously? I think it will not. With your idea, spammers who post more than 50 posts a day will just be given a chance to rank up after a couple of years which supposedly they must not rank up unless they make Quality Post.
As we can see, 60 posts are just a piece of cake to these spammers, they can double or even triple it in a month. That's why I disagree to your idea. Merit System is working fine, It's a little bit hard to rank up but it's challenging. Those who make good quality of posts are the only ones who deserves to rank up and those who only spam will remain at their rank for their entire life.

Your idea won't reduce spam posts instead, it will only increase the number of spam posts and spammers. Because of the designated amount of required posts to receive a particular amount of Merit, they will just post and post until they reach the required number of posts every month. Which will only result by spamming the Forum.

If the forum can only detect Good quality posts, maybe your idea has a chance. Because it will distribute Merit to those detected Members who deserves Merits and will ignore those spammers. But for now, it's a No for your idea. Maybe there is another way.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: 9jaflick on April 27, 2018, 01:57:09 PM
The best solution i can think of for now is for merit sources....

The best solution i can think of for now is to remove all the "Campaign Managers" and all traces of "Signature Campaigns" from this
forum because they are not only spamming FUD all over the internet but all over this site and they will say anything just to get merits to get
them started.

Nothing personal but given the censorship in the development forum here I have decided to conduct my own "Campaign" due to the
Censorship from nazi member achow101 so when he has been removed, I will stop but in the mean time take it that any comments
you or your friends make will from now on be recorded and exposed when ever and where ever I can

Remember when he goes, I stop.



 
No No, I don't think the idea of removing signature campaign managers is a good one, mind you, the signature campaign is one of those things that keeps this forum busy, people visit forum everyday to just meet up with their weekly task.
if there is one thing we should be looking out for, it should be how we can stop people from spamming forums. And I think the best way for us to archive this is by visiting forums on a daily basis and reporting every spammer we come across. with this, the of spamming will reduce


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: TryNinja on April 27, 2018, 02:40:46 PM
No No, I don't think the idea of removing signature campaign managers is a good one, mind you, the signature campaign is one of those things that keeps this forum busy, people visit forum ever to just meet up with their weekly task.
if there is one thing we should be looking out for, it should be how we can stop people from spamming forums. And I think the best way for us to archive this is by visiting forums on a daily basis and reporting every spammer we come across. with this, the of spamming will reduce
If that's what you think about signature campaigns, then they definitely should be removed. 'Keeping the forum busy' and 'people visiting the forum just to meet up their weekly task'? Wtf. Those people ARE the problem of the forum. If someone visits this forum weekly just to 'complete his task', he is probably a spammer who does the minimum/maximum of shitposts he can do for his campaign and don't come back until the next week. Do you think we need this kind of people? Or that this is healthy for the forum?

Posting for your campaign and making money shouldn't be the priority nor be seen as a job. It should be the consequence of your *real* participation in the forum.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: 9jaflick on April 27, 2018, 03:07:16 PM
No No, I don't think the idea of removing signature campaign managers is a good one, mind you, the signature campaign is one of those things that keeps this forum busy, people visit forum ever to just meet up with their weekly task.
if there is one thing we should be looking out for, it should be how we can stop people from spamming forums. And I think the best way for us to archive this is by visiting forums on a daily basis and reporting every spammer we come across. with this, the of spamming will reduce
If that's what you think about signature campaigns, then they definitely should be removed. 'Keeping the forum busy' and 'people visiting the forum just to meet up their weekly task'? Wtf. Those people ARE the problem of the forum. If someone visits this forum weekly just to 'complete his task', he is probably a spammer who does the minimum/maximum of shitposts he can do for his campaign and don't come back until the next week. Do you think we need this kind of people? Or that this is healthy for the forum?

Posting for your campaign and making money shouldn't be the priority nor be seen as a job. It should be the consequence of your *real* participation in the forum.
I agree with you, but come to think of it, if the mod decides to act on this, by removing every signature manager, dont you think it will have an effect on the forum and it will also affect more than 50% of the forum users?
Just like we have our traditional market, where some are selling expiring goods, in a situation like this do you stop all traders from trading just because some of them are selling expiring goods?


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: TryNinja on April 27, 2018, 03:13:57 PM
I agree with you, but come to think of it, if the mod decides to act on this, by removing every signature manager, dont you think it will have an effect on the forum and it will also affect more than 50% of the forum users?
Just like we have our traditional market, where some are selling expiring goods, in a situation like this do you stop all traders from trading just because some of them are selling expiring goods?
More than 50% of the forum users are probably spammers and bounty hunters. So I don't care if they go. The forum was way better a few years ago when only people who actually care about the technology would use the forum to discuss about Bitcoin (real discussions). Now, take a look at Bitcoin Discussion board. I challenge you to find at least one post where there is a real discussion going on and not just 50 spammers saying the same thing over and over again to 'meet up their weekly task'.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: sserge009 on May 01, 2018, 05:44:16 PM
If you look at the total number of merits and the total number of accounts in the forum, it becomes clear that such a system is impossible. For such a large forum, a whole team of merit sources is needed, which would monitor the whole forum 24/7. The current system may well improve the situation on the forum, it is necessary that people would get used to it.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: Vashti on May 01, 2018, 10:04:07 PM
if that happen just imagine new accounts and new members that keep on coming on the forum?!!!! You will see account that has only 5-14 post then the accounts is not active for months,,, Just say to the merit holders not to be lazy and look around for people who deserves meriting, and yeah count me out, don't need it.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: Emilyearl on May 02, 2018, 01:36:13 PM
It's going to be a devastating moment in the forum if this is considered. Reasons being:
To meet up with 60 posts, shitposting will be more prevalent as everyone will be in a haste to make 60 posts to qualify each week. And if we look at the merit points, it will increase merit farming and merit will keep losing its value.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: netil on May 03, 2018, 03:03:54 PM
A great plan and a great idea, only absolutely technically impossible. Firstly, this will increase the burden on the administration many times, in the second the criteria for assessing posts are not completely clear. Well, in the third it will greatly reduce the number of active users.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: Theb on May 03, 2018, 03:47:06 PM
Adding some kind of Merit Quota on top of the Merit System wouldn't work as what you intended to do, do you know how many accounts are there in BCT? There are currently more than 2 million accounts out there and it is still growing, and I don't think that the 17750 sMerits being generated by our merit sources would be enough for them, even if assuming that only half of the 2 million are active members still the sMerits won't be enough even if you add the half sMerits everyone will receive.

Aside from the lack of sMerits in satisfying all members, simply adding a Merit Quota won't be effective, instead you will pressure members on creating long posts thinking that it will be enough to receive merits, which is not the case for receiving those merits. The Merit System I think is enough but it is not designed to work instantly in the forum, but in the long run we will see the positive effect it will bring with regards to post quality as well as decreasing the spam inside the forum.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: Thirio on May 03, 2018, 03:51:52 PM
A great plan and a great idea.
Terrible idea. This'll make the forum like a race towards ranking up. Generating a quality post may be quite difficult for some, don't you think? Making these kind of tiers to reach and to maintain would remove the user-friendliness of this forum by pressuring all, new and old to give off some kind of quality posts.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: Koro-Sensei on May 03, 2018, 04:19:09 PM
What about legendary members?
Quote
Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
This is my suggestion:
- Don't think about post quality
- Don't think about merit
- Don't count characters
- Don't add new line because your post looks short
- Be yourself and be honest
Can you do that?

Been thinking on your post and since you tell me to be honest here goes nothing i sometimes get frustrated on hard topics we have here and leaving me clueless of that knowledge and getting lazy to find new ones. "Honest thoughts may hinder other opinions many opinions may hinder ones thoughts" the most honest opinion that i can give is in this message and might lead me to nonsense. So for the people who struggle to express themselves by words that are foreign to them just like me just keep in touch on your suggestion bold and clear so that they might or somehow reach them. Just like he said be yourself


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: BlockEye on May 03, 2018, 04:34:09 PM
It's simple. Post normal and don't be like a hungry lion that only wants meat. Don't ever answer in general especially when you are quoting others post which is usually happened. Newbie didn't analyze first what question they are answering and just post in general just to be in-line on the topic of the thread.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: Vannie12 on May 05, 2018, 01:54:33 PM
What you want to happen is spam the forum with more shit post. To make the requirement as a goal will NOT definitely make good quality it will only give more work to our mods and more of your posts will decrease from time too time. In short, you will waste time and efforts. If I were you, try reading more. Do not worry if you can make even a single post in a day. Post with pride and knowledge and make it count. Information must be true and factual. May be then everyone could bring good quality.


Title: Re: Suggestion-how can we improve the post quality
Post by: Bezuprechnyj on May 05, 2018, 04:45:49 PM
You offer measures to improve the quality of posts on forum and in the same time obliges to place a certain number of posts (perhaps absolutely useless). Don't you contradict yourself? As indicated in one of the posts there are about 906k accounts currently active. What do you think will happen to the forum if even a tenth of the accounts rush to write 60 posts in a month? Simple math... The topic of how to increase the number of posts, but not their quality.)