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Economy => Marketplace => Topic started by: Steve on February 12, 2011, 10:48:30 PM



Title: Escrow?
Post by: Steve on February 12, 2011, 10:48:30 PM
I read the thread about scammers...and I was think about the escrow services...the one I saw seems to refund BTC to the sender if some amount of time passed.  I wonder if that's the best policy.  Wouldn't it be better to not release the funds until both parties sign off on a desired transaction to close out the escrow?  If they don't sign off together, then the funds would just stay locked up indefinitely (forcing them to come to some settlement if they ever want to see the BTC again).  After some lengthy period of time (say 1 year), the funds could simply revert to the operator of the escrow service (to avoid having BTC in a limbo state permanently).


Title: Re: Escrow?
Post by: MDKing on February 12, 2011, 10:53:08 PM
I read the thread about scammers...and I was think about the escrow services...the one I saw seems to refund BTC to the sender if some amount of time passed.  I wonder if that's the best policy.  Wouldn't it be better to not release the funds until both parties sign off on a desired transaction to close out the escrow?  If they don't sign off together, then the funds would just stay locked up indefinitely (forcing them to come to some settlement if they ever want to see the BTC again).  After some lengthy period of time (say 1 year), the funds could simply revert to the operator of the escrow service (to avoid having BTC in a limbo state permanently).

I believe there is an escrow service called ClearCoin (https://clearcoin.appspot.com/) that operates very closely to your description. If my memory serves me they do not attempt to resolve any disputes. i.e. If the buyer receives the item in good condition but never releases the funds the seller is out of luck and after a defined period of time the BTCs return to the buyer.


Title: Re: Escrow?
Post by: theymos on February 13, 2011, 12:19:29 AM
The protocol itself supports the kind of escrow you describe (though it is not implemented):
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750.0



Title: Re: Escrow?
Post by: Fractality on February 13, 2011, 01:07:58 AM
My idea would be to donate the money to some charity in case buyer and seller disagree. Otherwise escrows seem to be only shifting power from one party to the other, not equalizing it.

With the donation the buyer could still screw over the seller, but would have less incentive to do so. The seller could screw over the buyer, but at least a charity would benefit...