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Title: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: thehedgemon on November 21, 2013, 10:56:07 PM
Made this little design for a t-shirt and thought I'd share!  :P

http://i41.tinypic.com/1624jm8.jpg


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: BitchicksHusband on November 22, 2013, 01:18:20 AM
That loser has no honor.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: bookie988 on November 22, 2013, 02:22:06 AM
as it stands now he's on frontpage of wired magazine, new proof that he had six serious murders planned, as well as the undercover fbi agent posing as a hitman and providing him with staged torture and murder of one of his former system administrators.
his defense is now that he isn't the Dread Pirate Roberts...



Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: vitalemontea on November 22, 2013, 02:39:42 AM
That loser has no honor.
He did some great things, pretty honourable as DPR, not so much as Ross


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: drawingthesun on November 22, 2013, 02:50:52 AM
The guy seems to be a egocentric maniac.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/11/ross-ulbricht-loses-bail/ (http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/11/ross-ulbricht-loses-bail/)

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He predicted, however, that 2011, he would be “a year of prosperity and power beyond what I have ever experienced before,” adding that “Silk Road is going to become a phenomenon and at least one person will tell me about it, unknowing that I was its creator.”

It seems he kept a journal where he constantly wrote about himself. He was certainly in self love.

I am not sure he was even sincere in DPR's "ideals" or if it was just the ego speaking.

EDIT:

Add this one: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/11/feds-say-silk-road-suspects-computer-shows-he-thought-he-plotted-6-murders/ (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/11/feds-say-silk-road-suspects-computer-shows-he-thought-he-plotted-6-murders/)

It seems the journal was to keep track of things related to the site too, but lots of entries obsessed with his power and legacy.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: moni3z on November 22, 2013, 04:53:30 AM
wonder what his defense is. I found this laptop in the library when they busted me lol


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: thehedgemon on November 22, 2013, 08:08:28 AM
wonder what his defense is. I found this laptop in the library when they busted me lol


Hahaha I've been wondering the same thing. His defense attorney seems to believe that he will get him off free. We'll see. And for the rest of the comments, the shirt is more about an ideal than the man himself or actions (murders are bad mmmmk)..... hence the mask, silk road icon, and economic ideological phrase. DPR and the silk road were figureheads of personal freedom!


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: bryant.coleman on November 22, 2013, 09:40:26 AM
According to the FBI (which I find pretty hard to believe) Mr.Ullbricht ordered 6 assassinations. If by any chance he played a role in those crimes, I would strongly advice the Bitcointalk community to retract all the support offered to this guy.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: niothor on November 22, 2013, 09:58:53 AM
Let's wait for  A.H. shirt!
At least that guy did a few good things like building a few highways , DPR did only the bad ones.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: beetcoin on November 22, 2013, 10:02:16 AM
is he a bad guy? i don't think so.. maybe just a libertarian who was smart but at the same time a dummy.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: hilariousandco on November 22, 2013, 11:01:41 AM
The guy seems to be a egocentric maniac.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/11/ross-ulbricht-loses-bail/ (http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/11/ross-ulbricht-loses-bail/)

Quote
He predicted, however, that 2011, he would be “a year of prosperity and power beyond what I have ever experienced before,” adding that “Silk Road is going to become a phenomenon and at least one person will tell me about it, unknowing that I was its creator.”

It seems he kept a journal where he constantly wrote about himself. He was certainly in self love.

I am not sure he was even sincere in DPR's "ideals" or if it was just the ego speaking.

EDIT:

Add this one: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/11/feds-say-silk-road-suspects-computer-shows-he-thought-he-plotted-6-murders/ (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/11/feds-say-silk-road-suspects-computer-shows-he-thought-he-plotted-6-murders/)

It seems the journal was to keep track of things related to the site too, but lots of entries obsessed with his power and legacy.

Jesus. It continually blows my mind how people can be so smart and yet so fucking stupid.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: cryptasm on November 22, 2013, 03:19:42 PM
According to the FBI, DPR created cancer, aids and eats live children!!!   :o  :o  :o

Nice tshirt btw  ;D


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on November 22, 2013, 03:25:38 PM
According to the FBI, DPR created cancer, aids and eats live children!!!   :o  :o  :o

Nice tshirt btw  ;D

I swear I thought I read "eats live chickens" and if that was the case, I would've cried, "Fowl!"


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: niothor on November 22, 2013, 03:54:46 PM
According to the FBI, DPR created cancer, aids and eats live children!!!   :o  :o  :o

Nice tshirt btw  ;D

I swear I thought I read "eats live chickens" and if that was the case, I would've cried, "Fowl!"

I read your part about "eats live chicken" then starred at that t-shirt for 5 minutes trying to find what you could have mistaken for this.
Oh , god , bitcoin is driving me nuts.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: cryptasm on November 22, 2013, 04:04:08 PM
I swear I thought I read "eats live chickens" and if that was the case, I would've cried, "Fowl!"
lol that would have been clucking unbelievable.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: davida on November 22, 2013, 04:04:55 PM
If you take anything the FBI or the American government has to say at face value then you are BLIND to how they operate...

It wouldn't surprise me if they used multiple alias's to first make him want/need these hits, then approach him as another user and offer to "take out" this person, that probably never existed.  All in an effort to make sure he is locked up for life when they do catch him.

Look at it from their perspective, do you really think they would want a 20yo computer nerd to undermine all the massive efforts and expense they go to to oppress drug use, then see him walk free in a couple of years with millions hidden away.  

Once his court day came and the judge decided that the crimes he committed wouldn't even justify a couple of years, after all he only launched a website offering free trade to the world, never actually sold anything illegal himself.

No no no, that wouldn't do for the FBI, so before catching him out for the "crimes" he committed, they had to cook up some real crimes, it's called entrapment, illegal in itself but something that the American gov love to do, and do it all to often.  All this in an effort to ensure he couldn't walk free and that all the media would demonize him.

All I can say is glad i'm not american.. land of the free my ass.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: niothor on November 22, 2013, 04:08:32 PM
If you take anything the FBI or the American government has to say at face value then you are BLIND to how they operate...

It wouldn't surprise me if they used multiple alias's to first make him want/need these hits, then approach him as another user and offer to "take out" this person, that probably never existed.  All in an effort to make sure he is locked up for life when they do catch him.

Look at it from their perspective, do you really think they would want a 20yo computer nerd to undermine all the massive efforts and expense they go to to oppress drug use, then see him walk free in a couple of years with millions hidden away.  

Once his court day came and the judge decided that the crimes he committed wouldn't even justify a couple of years, after all he only launched a website offering free trade to the world, never actually sold anything illegal himself.

No no no, that wouldn't do for the FBI, so before catching him out for the "crimes" he committed, they had to cook up some real crimes, it's called entrapment, illegal in itself but something that the American gov love to do, and do it all to often.  All this in an effort to ensure he couldn't walk free and that all the media would demonize him.

All I can say is glad i'm not american.. land of the free my ass.

Oh yeah , he was a hero and those damn government fascists want the poor Jesus v2.02 burned on a stick in all the media.
And he could bring peace to all the world , end hunger with his good for everything Silkroad project.

Free trade? well , he didn't get all those bitcoins from FREEEEEE trade.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: hilariousandco on November 22, 2013, 04:09:22 PM


It wouldn't surprise me if they used multiple alias's to first make him want/need these hits, then approach him as another user and offer to "take out" this person, that probably never existed.  All in an effort to make sure he is locked up for life when they do catch him.

Isn't this kinda what they did?


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: davida on November 22, 2013, 04:14:49 PM
Free trade? well , he didn't get all those bitcoins from FREEEEEE trade.

You obviously don't understand what i mean by free trade... I don't literally mean people trading things for free, or even trade on a website that is free to trade on... everything in the world costs something. 

I mean free to trade what they please, without government intervention.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: niothor on November 22, 2013, 04:25:35 PM
Free trade? well , he didn't get all those bitcoins from FREEEEEE trade.

You obviously don't understand what i mean by free trade... I don't literally mean people trading things for free, or even trade on a website that is free to trade on... everything in the world costs something. 

I mean free to trade what they please, without government intervention.


So basically you praise him for running a lawless website.
What a hero.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: davida on November 22, 2013, 06:54:33 PM
Free trade? well , he didn't get all those bitcoins from FREEEEEE trade.

You obviously don't understand what i mean by free trade... I don't literally mean people trading things for free, or even trade on a website that is free to trade on... everything in the world costs something. 

I mean free to trade what they please, without government intervention.


So basically you praise him for running a lawless website.
What a hero.

Re-read what i have written, I didn't use the word hero once, nor did i praise him directly... My point is that when the us gov get you in their cross-hairs the actual crime you commit according to their own law is nearly irrelevant. 

If they don't like what you are doing and feel like the punishment won't be fitting in their eyes, they become the judge and jury by ILLEGALLY enticing you to commit further crimes while "gathering evidence" (even though they normally have enough evidence), this is just the norm for them.   They will then use that new evidence any which way to turn both the general public and more importantly the prosecution service against you.

I do personally believe the trade of drugs shouldn't be criminalized as it is today in many countries, and no matter how you look at it DPR has contributed a hell of a lot towards this cause...(I won't go into it but compare the damage of alcohol with the majority of drugs and you will see why)  Now whether all the wealth he gathered went to his head is another matter, but I believe his initial cause was a justified one.. It appeared to be all civil until the fbi started messing with him, with threats of exposing his customers, so then he became fearful of what could happen to him and his customers, then was offered a way to fix it, surprise surprise, by the same fbi that made the threats in the first place.

I just wanted you guys to see my view on how the us gov operates.. Disagree all you like, i'm listening.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: thehedgemon on November 22, 2013, 07:04:18 PM
Free trade? well , he didn't get all those bitcoins from FREEEEEE trade.

You obviously don't understand what i mean by free trade... I don't literally mean people trading things for free, or even trade on a website that is free to trade on... everything in the world costs something. 

I mean free to trade what they please, without government intervention.


So basically you praise him for running a lawless website.
What a hero.

I do personally believe the trade of drugs shouldn't be criminalized as it is today in many countries, and no matter how you look at it DPR has contributed a hell of a lot towards this cause...(I won't go into it but compare the damage of alcohol with the majority of drugs and you will see why)  Now whether all the wealth he gathered went to his head is another matter, but I believe his initial cause was a justified one.. It appeared to be all civil until the fbi started messing with him, with threats of exposing his customers, so then he became fearful of what could happen to him and his customers, then was offered a way to fix it, surprise surprise, by the same fbi that made the threats in the first place.

I just wanted you guys to see my view on how the us gov operates.. Disagree all you like, i'm listening.

See that last part is what I agree with. I'm not for too much government intervention in regards to our economy. Laissez Faire my friends


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: thehedgemon on November 22, 2013, 07:05:21 PM
According to the FBI, DPR created cancer, aids and eats live children!!!   :o  :o  :o

Nice tshirt btw  ;D


hahaha thanks


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on November 22, 2013, 09:17:22 PM
That loser has no honor.

+1


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: C10H15N on November 22, 2013, 09:38:17 PM
His new cell mate likes him... A lot.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: BitchicksHusband on November 23, 2013, 03:14:04 AM
Look, I'm not saying that I'm blind to the "terrorist plots" that the FBI keeps stopping themselves from.  But in order to actually "entrap" him, he still has to go through with actually believing he murdered that seller.  He could have said "no".


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: BitTrade on November 23, 2013, 08:57:20 AM
So basically you praise him for running a lawless website.
What a hero.

I love how "lawless" is used in a derogatory fashion.  You're right.  The real heroes are the people who write laws and obey laws.  Those good folks on capitol hill, and the good samaritans who always drive the speed limit and would never think to ingest a non-state-approved substance without permission.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: justusranvier on November 23, 2013, 09:07:29 AM
"Lawless" behaviour looks like Jason King using bitcoin donations to illegally feed the homeless in Florida.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: niothor on November 23, 2013, 11:17:11 AM
So basically you praise him for running a lawless website.
What a hero.

I love how "lawless" is used in a derogatory fashion.  You're right.  The real heroes are the people who write laws and obey laws.  Those good folks on capitol hill, and the good samaritans who always drive the speed limit and would never think to ingest a non-state-approved substance without permission.

Let's have a talk after somebody from YOUR  family dies in an accident caused by a speeding idiot. Shall we?


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: Gabi on November 23, 2013, 11:25:26 AM
The indipendence war was LAWFUL?  :o :o


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: TheKoziTwo on November 23, 2013, 06:40:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EyzWwljp7c


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: jojo69 on November 23, 2013, 06:47:37 PM
So basically you praise him for running a lawless website.
What a hero.

I love how "lawless" is used in a derogatory fashion.  You're right.  The real heroes are the people who write laws and obey laws.  Those good folks on capitol hill, and the good samaritans who always drive the speed limit and would never think to ingest a non-state-approved substance without permission.

Let's have a talk after somebody from YOUR  family dies in an accident caused by a speeding idiot. Shall we?

Hold up a second, silkroad, as I understand it, was not really lawless.  There was a feedback mechanism where customers could leave comments about vendors, so, for really the first time, we had some semblance of quality control and peer review of product.

Let's have a talk after somebody from YOUR  family dies from poison party drugs they had no way to QC.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: hilariousandco on November 23, 2013, 06:55:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EyzWwljp7c

Isn't this always the type of stuff the parents and families of murderers and tyrants always say? "My son is a good man and wouldn't hurt a fly" says Mrs Bundy/Manson/Hitler etc.


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: hilariousandco on November 23, 2013, 07:07:15 PM
So basically you praise him for running a lawless website.
What a hero.

I love how "lawless" is used in a derogatory fashion.  You're right.  The real heroes are the people who write laws and obey laws.  Those good folks on capitol hill, and the good samaritans who always drive the speed limit and would never think to ingest a non-state-approved substance without permission.

Let's have a talk after somebody from YOUR  family dies in an accident caused by a speeding idiot. Shall we?

Hold up a second, silkroad, as I understand it, was not really lawless.  There was a feedback mechanism where customers could leave comments about vendors, so, for really the first time, we had some semblance of quality control and peer review of product.

Let's have a talk after somebody from YOUR  family dies from poison party drugs they had no way to QC.

C'mon now, a feedback system doesn't make something lawful. 99% of the stuff sold on Silk Road was illegal, whether we agree with it or not.

And the quality of drugs isn't going to stop people getting killed by them. You could still buy some coke or whatever  from a reputable seller that is cut with poison or some other contaminant, especially if you're a newb drug user and just took his ratings and reviews as fact. Does the vendor always carry out strict quality control tests on his products or does he take his suppliers word as fact too? What we really need is legalisation and proper regulation.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/teenager-patrick-mcmullen-who-died-while-on-skype-had-bought-drugs-from-silk-road-8942329.html

Let's have a talk when your kid dies from buying drugs on SR.



Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: jojo69 on November 23, 2013, 07:20:19 PM
I'd feel a lot more safe buying something from a SR vendor with lots of feedback raving about the quality of their product than from some schmo in a hoodie outside the rave.

And I'm just facepalm that people still want the daddy state to hold their hand...even with drugs, lol


Title: Re: In Honor Of Ross "The Dread Pirate Roberts" Ulbricht
Post by: hilariousandco on November 23, 2013, 07:50:39 PM
I'd feel a lot more safe buying something from a SR vendor with lots of feedback raving about the quality of their product than from some schmo in a hoodie outside the rave.

And I'm just facepalm that people still want the daddy state to hold their hand...even with drugs, lol

Yet you could be buying the exact same product from both. You literally don't know what's in either. Could be laced with ricin for all you know. Neither have been properly regulated or gone though any quality control, and SR sellers will happily sell to your kids. People could quite easily facepalm about blindly trusting anonymous people over the internet who will ship illegal drugs to your house or children.

And I'm sure you trust the state to regulate your food and legal drugs, so why not with this? Unless you buy all your stuff from shady websites on the darknet based entirely on the feedback of anonymous people. You shouldn't have to go to places like SR to buy drugs. I'd rather my taxes go into building schools and hospitals etc than straight to some power/money hungry murdering fake libertarian. Nothing 'daddy state' about that.