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Title: The stars in the sky
Post by: DigitalGoldCoin on November 24, 2013, 06:20:28 AM



The stars in the sky


Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: mattle74 on November 24, 2013, 06:26:10 AM
Did you mine these missing goldcoins? If you did, was it when all of the GLD pools were mining on different chains? It was probably a month or so ago. The difficulty looked really low & you could mine a ton of goldcoins but they weren't on the correct chain. They would be lost them because they weren't really legitimate.

If you mined them some other time or traded them outright, then I have no idea.


Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: DigitalGoldCoin on November 24, 2013, 06:35:59 AM
Did you mine these missing goldcoins? If you did, was it when all of the GLD pools were mining on different chains? It was probably a month or so ago. The difficulty looked really low & you could mine a ton of goldcoins but they weren't on the correct chain. They would be lost them because they weren't really legitimate.

If you mined them some other time or traded them outright, then I have no idea.


I see



Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: BitcoinEXpress on November 24, 2013, 06:38:17 AM


You old wallet is on another chain.

Your coins in the other wallet do not exist to the new client.

Nothing complicated.


~BCX~


Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: DigitalGoldCoin on November 24, 2013, 06:43:51 AM


You old wallet is on another chain.

Your coins in the other wallet do not exist to the new client.

Nothing complicated.


~BCX~

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Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: DigitalGoldCoin on November 24, 2013, 06:47:52 AM


A star






Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: DigitalGoldCoin on November 24, 2013, 07:03:45 AM

could it be


Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: BitcoinEXpress on November 24, 2013, 05:04:29 PM
@DigitalGoldCoin


Regardless if you bought them, stole them or mined them they are on another chain separate from the updated wallet. I am not the GLD Developer or even mine GLD but I have a very thorough understanding of what happens when block chains split. Trust me on that!

Let me explain it for you. I will be using made up numbers for simplicity sake.

1) Let's say all GLD miners are on a single well performing chain till block 20,000.

2) Then for whatever reason at block 20,001 a fork occurs and some miners continue on Chain A and some continue on Chain B. Both chains continue independently mining and cruising right along till block 20500. What you have are two chains that are exactly the same till block 20,000 but are entirely different from that point forward. Coins from Chain A will not be recognized by coins from Chain B and vice-versa.

3) When the Developer realizes there is a fork, there is only one real fix. Figure out which chain the pools and exchanges are on, which is usually the longest one and release an updated client that recognizes only the chosen chain. In this case I will choose Chain B. Which apparently you are not on.  Your coins are on Chain A and do not exist on Chain B and never will. You effectively have no coins.

4) The part that really sucks, is that since you bought such a large number of them 50,000 they were more than likely mined before the fork and sold to you after the split. Which means when the new wallet was released, the seller got the coins they sold you back and also your BTC.

Contact the person you bought them from, they have your coins and could send them to you on the proper chain if they wanted.



~BCX~







Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: DigitalGoldCoin on November 25, 2013, 08:55:20 AM
@DigitalGoldCoin


Regardless if you bought them, stole them or mined them they are on another chain separate from the updated wallet. I am not the GLD Developer or even mine GLD but I have a very thorough understanding of what happens when block chains split. Trust me on that!

Let me explain it for you. I will be using made up numbers for simplicity sake.

1) Let's say all GLD miners are on a single well performing chain till block 20,000.

2) Then for whatever reason at block 20,001 a fork occurs and some miners continue on Chain A and some continue on Chain B. Both chains continue independently mining and cruising right along till block 20500. What you have are two chains that are exactly the same till block 20,000 but are entirely different from that point forward. Coins from Chain A will not be recognized by coins from Chain B and vice-versa.

3) When the Developer realizes there is a fork, there is only one real fix. Figure out which chain the pools and exchanges are on, which is usually the longest one and release an updated client that recognizes only the chosen chain. In this case I will choose Chain B. Which apparently you are not on.  Your coins are on Chain A and do not exist on Chain B and never will. You effectively have no coins.

4) The part that really sucks, is that since you bought such a large number of them 50,000 they were more than likely mined before the fork and sold to you after the split. Which means when the new wallet was released, the seller got the coins they sold you back and also your BTC.

Contact the person you bought them from, they have your coins and could send them to you on the proper chain if they wanted.



~BCX~








Thank you BitcoinEXpress



Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: Lauda on November 25, 2013, 09:33:36 AM
Where did you buy the coins from? A exchange?
I'm not surprised that microguy is censoring the forum.


Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: DigitalGoldCoin on November 25, 2013, 10:11:52 AM



that may be true





Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: Liquid on November 25, 2013, 11:26:17 AM
What version was you old wallet and what is the new version ?  


Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: DigitalGoldCoin on November 25, 2013, 09:40:37 PM


version?


Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: cad_cdn on November 25, 2013, 09:51:09 PM
I also show -200 coins.
They were in the wallet and then a reverse transaction took them out again.


Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: DigitalGoldCoin on November 25, 2013, 10:20:41 PM
I also show -200 coins.
They were in the wallet and then a reverse transaction took them out again.


I don't know anything about reverse transactions. I thought that these coins wouldn't allow any reverse transactions at all. Once you send/receive coins the deal is done and there isn't any way to force people to pay back over the net by ordinary ways.


My new wallet does not have the following data in it:

-  Addresses all missing that I had created in the old wallet
-  Goldcoin balance shows zero when I do have goldcoins in the old wallet
- new wallet likely is not encrypted either, so it fails to get that data as well(I haven't thoroughly checked this though, so don't know for sure if it is encrypted with the same pw or not. I theorize it doesn't though)


Why is the new wallet not getting all that data? How can i fix this?


why doesn't the new wallet 'see' the old wallet data? What might cause this?





Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: Thrash on November 25, 2013, 11:10:19 PM
If you leave the old wallet in the old roaming directory (Goldcoin) and then start with a fresh install of the new wallet (which sets up a new roaming directory called GoldCoin (GLD)) then start the new client it should copy the transactions and addresses from the old wallet. I do not think you want to move the wallet manually. I could not find any instructions but this worked for me. The new wallet will re-download the entire chain. If they are not there after that then maybe they were from the wrong chain. Mine started out at zero and built up as it went, which is what I would expect.


Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: krach on November 25, 2013, 11:36:28 PM
"but it has such a good name"


interesting that this problem has to be solved here and not at the gldtalk forum?!
Iron Fist rule of a forum for people looking for support?

"but it has the best name"


Title: Re: Mystery of the dissappearing Goldcoins at update time
Post by: DigitalGoldCoin on November 28, 2013, 07:15:59 AM




not much of anything