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I don't know if something can be done, but I will report here my findings...
Already report to the moderators also.

When I saw someone claiming their rank has increased to Full Member in a bounty thread I found that strange!!
(nowadays is practically impossible to rank up)

When I check the merit page I saw that the user has received 73 merit points from the same person...

asche | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1580039
oscar2000 | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=377987

In a further analysis, Becassine also received 50 merits from oscar2000 from a normal post.

Becassine | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1224889

Thank you. This is more than enough reason to leave negative trust.

I think some people have been viewing the lack of a response as an invitation to cheat even more.

It does not make me that much surprise. I have seen people are exchanging merits shamelessly yet they claim they are not abusing it. I have investigated 16 Cases with over 60+ abusers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.0). The amount of merit has been abused are enormous.

Well if you have time for check over 200 merit for this group (of alt?) and abusing signatures, eth links proven https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3420918.0

It is shocking how people try to cheat.  If this is verified, it is a shame for that legendary member to be abating this cheating.

I think there should be stiffer penalty for senior who are caught misbehaving in the forum.

This makes me very happy that you tagged these guys.  I haven't seen many of the obvious merit buyers & sellers getting any consequences, and I got the impression that DT members were backing off of doing so.  Not tagging them IMO gives them the confidence to keep doing it, and they will.
Well you know, scammers and other dishonest people are known to deny it when you catch them performing their dishonest acts.  ;)
It's still good you reported it and again, I'm very glad tagged these users. 

I saw how 15 merits from one person were sent to the post about love for skates ;D. The merit system appeared only recently and was like a bolt from the blue. Of course, the administration will struggle with the transformation of merits into the subject of trade, but it is not known how this will affect the future in the forum and bounty campaigns.

This case has been on the radar for some time. I reported the case:

* Back in March to the "Suspected users that are abusing merit 3.0" thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.msg32817919#msg32817919)

* Again it cropped up a couple of weeks ago when I checked which users were on their way to ranking up (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3338915.msg34933172#msg34933172)
-> * asche -> Weird: Nearly all Merit comes from Oscar2000 in ANN threads. -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1580039).

I didn't see any action taken (until today), so I gave up on the case. Finally Karma caugh up.

Ladies and Gentlemen, good evening,

I am coming here as advised by Vod after he sent me Neg Trust.
To make it clear from the beginning, I am not here to whine or to beg for anyone to remove the red trust, I merely hope I can tell you more about the situation.

First thing of all, I am new around here, first account ever on the forum even though I have been mining Litecoin since 2013.

About the present matter:

Yes I received many merits from oscar, and maybe he will come around this thread too.
For your information I didn't do anything for these merits, I believe oscar liked me somehow and wanted to do me a favor. Looks like it is going to be quite the opposite.
I regret how this happened, and I believe other people would deserve them more than I do, but I also believe this merit system is deeply unfair, but this is not the place to talk about this. However I think it should be taken into consideration when judging members receiving merit.

The issue being it is not possible to refuse any merit you receive. Also, why can't a member use his merits the way he wants, as long as he doesn't sell them, or gets any benefit for it?

I am spending a lot of time on these forums, discovering new projects, translating the one I can, and investing in others. I have appreciated my time here so far, and I am trying to do my part, mostly by reporting every bad behavior I spot on the french section, which we are trying to get cleaned up for ages, AND giving my smerit to posts/people who deserve it. (if someone influent steps by, please get us some attention for more moderation).

Bottom line is, if my best friend came to this forum and needed 10 merit to get to member, I would probably give them to him, because I know he is a great guy and will benefit the forum.

I'd be happy to hear your advices on how to handle myself in my present situation, which I can't change anymore.

Best regards

Edit : DdmrDdmr, just checked your post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3338915.msg34933172, and I have to say, that is some amazing research. I hope this will also be used to make people rank up when they deserve it in the future :)

I just looked at your merit history, and I find this claim to be laughable.  You've been well-tagged, IMO.  He gave you merits for every consecutive post in that thread, and those posts absolutely did not deserve merit.  There is no doubt in my mind that there was some sort of arrangement beforehand--don't know what it was, but it's either you bought those merits or that's your alt account.  Don't know, don't care.  If I were you, I'd be a bit pissed off at oscar2000 but you don't seem to be.
I'm failing to see how this is relevant to the merit you received and the trust you got from Vod.
That's a bit of a contradiction right there.  You're coming off as extremely disingenuous.  You said at first that he might have sent you the merits because he likes you, and now you're saying he told you beforehand.  Well, did this individual give you a reason why he'd be sending you all those merits?

Why would I?
He told me he would send me merits, I can assure you there is no arrangement, but I do know I can't prove that.
I didn't tell him to stop since I wasn't aware the situation would be so tense, like I said, I am a newcomer, and you can easily see by my post history I don't drop by meta too often.

As I also said, I never said I don't deserve the tagging.

I just believe I should make an appearance here and tell my side of the story. I know there is no point in arguing since there is no way to prove what I am saying.

And to be fair, I have heard how cheap you can buy a Full Member account, so if these numbers are correct, I don't think these merits are worth so much that someone would take this kind of risk knowingly for that.


Just saying I would probably also give some merits to a friend of mine, even if it wasn't on a post that is "perfect".

With due respect, it seems like I need to add some of these on my [Parody] Merit translation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3390259.0) topic


It sounds like you are talking about Trust system.

Do you guys even read this?

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Relate this... it's gonna make sense
In this case since oscar2000 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=377987) is already a Legendary, you may not find the circle ending at X again (Just saying).

Well you are correct, cheaters will do it this way, small communities will also.

I am fairly certain some merit I gave to emile12 or DonScutzi may have come around somehow, because we are all active in the french section, or are talking on eachothers threads. Not everything is fraud.
And as you state it, oscar will not be at any circle ending, so why take the risk? What is the advantage? Loosing the credibility of his very precious Legendary account? I just don't get it, I mean, I would never do it if I had a legendary acc, that's for sure.

And again, I know it is vain to claim innocence here, please stop repeating that you are convinced of my guilt, I get that, so I am not trying to change your mind. I have said what I had to say, and I will try not to react to any reaction that will make me sad/angry/nervous ;) However if you have any question or advice, I will read/answer.

Seems like oscar2000 did it (risked the account) even though s/he had a legendary account. You seems very innocent (!) however can we ignore that oscar2000 and asche are not ALTs to each others? The account holder thought why not send these sMerits to asche and rank it up (just a wild guess).

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Update:
There are a lot of people here to give you advice but I would like to give you a suggestion. It's up to you to take it or leave it...
Forget what happened, from next time be very careful not to repeat this again and read the top stickies on the Meta board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0) especially merit related topics since you are saying that you are new member (!) to the forum.

Hahaha they are proud of saying they rank up and they don't know that it gives reason to Higher ups to investigate their account.
well cheaters has to be mark for their wrong doing.

For starters I could provide some screenshots to you of some pm between each other, that are several days/weeks old. Maybe this can help you believe he isn't my alt.
Also if he wanted an alt I bet he would have created one way before.
Ultimately an admin can look into it. As far as I know we don't live in the same region, so this would be easy to spot based on ip.

I am done here buddy. If you think that can help you then do it if you want. Make sure you record the date/time as well. Good luck.

I actually came here first to explain what happened and tell the people on this thread I was sorry for being part of this.
I was taught to accept punishments I deserve, and it looks like I deserve this one, even if I wasn't the one pushing the buttons.
Thank you anyway & have a good evening.

Good decision. obvious cases where more than 30-50 merits are involved really deserve red tag, and thank you for spending your time.

What a waste, It feels like he doesn't care about his profile as a legendary, I don't know why do people are so foolish just to earn some more, risking their main profiles just like that. URRGHHHH~ People like this should be banned here, so they will know the worth of having a higher rank profile if they happen to create a new one again.

Merit buying is just stupid, why would anyone risk his account at a cost of getting red trusted or even banned? I can see only one reason to risk your hard earned cash and precious (if Full Member and above) account. The seller should write you a cool article, which would be very useful for the community.;D Then nobody will question your merits, assuming it is not a plagiarism (ouch). Oh, I just created a new job, a merit copywriter.

Thank you, that's a good catch.

There is also an active  thread for reporting a merit abuse, some DT members actually follow that thread. Technically, sale is also an abuse of merit system.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.0


I support that. You can't buy an ability to write texts and produce valuable ideas. And It won't be a problem to catch and ban someone, who's merit will be in question due to some indecent behavior.

I understand that they just want to rank up their positions, however it is unfair for those people who really spend their time for creating such quality post and not regularly noticed their post. For a Jr. Member like me, it is not easy to find some bounties that open for a Jr. Member position and majority of the bounties are now open for member to legendary, it sucks to know that there is someone who cheat in the merit system. I believe, karma is good. 

Its abuse of the system as well and hence it is tagged if found and proven guilty.

Why do you consider your account so precious? Having an account here does not make you eligible for anything in general - what you apply for is a different issue. Having an account and having economic thoughts about the account shows your willingness to use the account solely for spamming your signature and not joining the discussions. If you do both properly then it wont be an issue.

I like your style mate. But truely speaking we need some sort of regulation on the merit system now.

many blablabla as always... you french guys should tell me before post !

my trust to Vod explain the true :

Vod : You don't speak french, and oscar2000 don't really speak english, he doesn't deserve your red trust, he don't care with merit and were playing with it, nothing else.

Take a look at his post, they are long and constructive (I don't always agree with him but that's not the point)

"Asked to remove trust in exchange for 79 merits and a promise he had learned his lesson about abusing merit... "
This pm show he didn't understand how merit works, nothing else !

Here's my opinion: in exchanges of A->B, the one that should be tagged is A, not B.

Obviously, when you have A<->B both users are tagged but this is not the case here. If you start tagging users because they have received lots of merit from one individual, that opens up doors for scammers/butthurts to spam-send merit to someone that isn't abusing the system for a false conviction. After all, like The Void, you can't reject gifts. bonus points if you get that reference

The tag on asche should be reconsidered. Precedence holds great power which is why I carefully tag merit abusers.

I don't get how you can reject merit ?

I appreciate your opinion on this. I have always tried to use the smerits I got with parsimony and only when they are deserved (even if I usually use them in French since we don't have any merit source around).

I'd love to show that I want to add value to the forum and can be trusted otherwise, and would really appreciate to benefit from presumption of innocence.

As TheUltraElite said, "found and proven guilty". I am not sure where the guilt starts and ends here. Yes I was aware I was getting many merits, but I didn't imagine it would be considered that damaging.



As I have stated before I just recently discovered this forum, even though I know about crypto for a long time.
Since I joined I learned to like the community and everything we can find here.
I have made my specialty in translating Anns but also some other informations for fellow frenchmen that aren't quite so good in english, and I really would like to keep doing this.

Me being tagged here actually made me discover this board. I would have used it numerous times for bad translators if I had known it's existence. I hope one day I will be considered trustworthy again and can then use this reputation forum to help detect and prevent fake translators or other abusers. (not sure I would be so harsh about people getting merit tho, that would be kinda ironic  ::) )


And I believe I got your WoW reference  ;)

@ashe i know you are smart but this forum don't care with smart people.

only fact is important.

edit ; i didn't read the whole thread but I will do.

whats wrong with you ?

now learn french or use google translate, and explain me.

I wont spend my time there, becassine answer she don't care of his trust. you want to tag her too ?

i'm tired with your merit.

last edit : you deserve a red from me, with only "idiot".

This is incredible. 70 merits from a single person! It is a clear case of cheating. But what happened after the recipient pleaded for leniency? Was it granted?

no, whats incredible is that you don't understand local board. we don't care with that -also we don't have moderator anymore, we help each other.

edit : you get a red from me. come on now. and big lol "Spammer. Pointless one-liner replies. " why you guys can't shut up ?

Last.. i get 100+ merit, try something against me. ;)

Is there somewhere where I can ask to disable the possibility to receive merit ? As an active french member, I'm afraid by this "serial merit giver" who prowl in our local board. He has the power to destroy our accounts reputation only with one click !

More seriously, I think your investigations were really too limited in the case of asche. oscar2000 litterally didn't care about the value of his account, he started to make campaigns recently, despite he's been a legendary as long as I can remember.
Just imagine for a second that he could be a member who wanted to make the account of someone who uses it for campaigns unusable (asche), for some reasons. Then the victim would have been condamned twice.


Through your actions, you are just offering the possibility for every legendary who don't care about his account to destroy the reputation of the accounts of his choice. It's a strange sense of justice.

John, you just raised a month old topic looking for trouble. It's only fair that you get some ! hahaha

I just want to say a few words about the members discussed in here:

> Oscar: I know you disagree John, but to me he deserves his redtrust. Even if he didn't care, it is a big disrespect to those who try to get some in a legit way. I mean, people almost kill each other for a couple of merits! He doesn't do bounty anyway. Plus he is a respected member in our section with some very interesting contributions sometimes, so I am sure he will make it through.

> Asche: From what I have seen, Asche is a great member of the french community, with many helpful contributions. She also makes high level translations. I am not here to debate the fact that she deserves or doesn't deserve a red trust, just to say that she is a legit member, and there aren't that many of them sadly. Please don't push them away !

> Becassine: I don't know her much, but she made some of the most useful threads in our section. The last I have in mind was about computer security. She also just stated that with all the people getting robbed everyday, it would be nice to have a small sub-forum to discuss about this matter, or at least to pin the topic. But as she also noticed, it is an utopia considering that we don't have any moderator at all !

> Lastly John: I really hope no one is considering blaming him here ! he is the closest thing to a moderator that we have, and he is the main reason french section is still alive. Not to mention all his work looking for cheaters and scammers (just look at all the red trust he has sent). Undoubtedly trustworthy if you'd asked me.

As you can notice, I didn't speak much about merit yet. So you can have an opinion about those members and not focusing on the "trading merit" part. I also believe most of the people in the french section (and maybe on the whole forum as well) gave up already trying to rank up. Still, I do like this system because it reduced a bit the amount of spams and shitposts around.

Notice: I have got 25 merits myself from a legendary at the very beginning of the system in exchange for a favor. I already turned myself in here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.msg30514083#msg30514083). Plus I don't do signature's campaign anyway, the biggest sources of spam making this forum barely readable.

I am a reader of the french section of the forum and my conscience obliges me to give my opinion on an absurd situation that johnuser and some 4 members try to make reign on the french forum:

johnuser tries to make caid or warlord in this section with sordid and despicable methods, he threatens certain members to give them collective redtrust with the help of his band and his affiliate, and promised to other remove their redtrust just acquired as the case of ashe,

here he threat the people who do not come to give him a hand in his little war:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439129.msg39538917#msg39538917



another






another time I say that this person is a mental patient who tries to become the king of the French forum in every way possible and imaginary , sometimes with the power of collective redtrust that he has on the other hand by putting pressure on other members to express the ideas he wants.


Taking the case of Ashe, for example, there is not the slightest doubt that he used the merit farming, but he promised to take away his redness with all the means and pressure he has.


I found myself out of me seeing this sordid act of this person and his little band in this French section already dead and not active section of forum bitcointalk :



affiliated members to johnuser and driven by johnuser: Shitcointalk, ashe,

kenzawak
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1082600

the wife of kenzawak Mister k:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1379635

ps: ashe is a 26 years old woman

écoute, tu te trompes, pense ça de moi / end.

oups je mattais un film et j'ai pensé à toi : end pour toi, j’espère que tu l'as compris.

merci talk ;)

Well, that is unexpected ! And it's coming from one of the biggest member in the french section looking at his latest posts, or even all his post should I say. So I am not even sure how you have been offended because you never posted once in the french sub-forum! Unless of course if one other account of yours has been red tagged by one of us...  ::)  (A few very bad translators were "redtrusted" lately, out of respect to everyone)

Just one more thing, I didn't see any kind of threats coming from John. He does redtrust easily when he has a good reason, or he doesn't without good reasons.

I do not see the utility of posting in a dead forum section where you and your 4 boyfriend spam all day long with ANN that have no interaction beside your own replies .

have a little conscience and objectivity because



when I posted in this thread I was well aware that the 4 friends will try to burn me alive and I know what you are capable of

Be assured that I am not trying to burn anyone. That would be a pretty sad goal. Read my post again and you will see that I even agree with Oscar's redtrust.

I also agree that french section is a huge mess. Sadly, yes. But if you are being honest, and if you really read it, you should also know that the same John is trying his best to make it better. Something that, if I am being honest as well, I can't say about you after reading at your post history. You support the french section or you don't, whatever. But if you do, don't bite the hand that feeds you. 

It is also a nice quotation you wrote there, even though I am not sure why you posted it here. And wearing a signature makes it a bit ironical.
What is also unclear is the purpose of your post in the first place. Have you been redtagged for one of those poor translations we tagged last week ? It was all well deserved by the way, so if you are trying to defend cheaters who barely speaks french but try to do some translation work, you will have some hard time (for those who woudn't know about that, 10 cheaters accounts were heavily redtagged a few days back because of their poor quality work. It can be found HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4404879.0)).   

Come on, don't be ashamed, tell us what it is all about ?

example of what you call translation
one month thread with 4 replies of the same Shitcointalk and 64 view , which mean nobody has visited thread beside Shitcointalk  .

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3753825.msg39482284#msg39482284


im not a translator and dont try to attract me to your dirty game.


this french section is your playground all four, play there as you want
but to try to influence on all the forum to exonerate a merit farmer, and to encourage this kind of practice, then, allow me to intervene and say halte.

Yes, it is one of my work. Anything to do with the subject ?

Well, that's good.

Take a look at our altcoin section, I saw many names in there. And we are the first one to ask to separate [altcoin discussion] and [ANN thread].

Back to the topic after all. You think they deserve redtrust, so just make your point. No one said you couldn't.

Bye.

this is a big disaster for people who get a gift in a bad way. bad ways that will affect his account.
can be a lesson for all of us, to be careful.

No you're not. 30 and something posts lol ? Nice gimmick !
I don't know who you are but I'll find out and when I do we'll talk again... probably here in this very same topic.
You clearly have an agenda here.

You can try to drag me (us) into this, you'll fail.
Everything we've done (getting rid of fake translators) was done in the open... and approved by DTs :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4404879.msg39190052#msg39190052

So I'd say you're either one of those fake translators or one that profits from what we did and wants to get rid of the rest of the competition.

With all due respect, I suggest the mods have a closer look at your account... they'll spot a real cheater there.

Anyway, nice try. I like how you tried to make this a thread about something completely different from what it was at first.
Nobody cares about your biased opinion, maybe we would if you posted with your real account.

Hello,

Maybe we  can stay on topic here?

You can criticize the way bounties are working, but I doubt very hard that this is relevant here.

Even though you might be right, some projects aren't read by anyone, but others are used a lot, at least to gather information.

The fact nobody is posting is actually usefull to some since this avoids all the shitposts which only goal is to "up" the topic and get attention. Since you don't do that as a translator you just have the valid information left.

Not everyone has the chance to translate the Ethereum ICO and get the corresponding attention.

I like your irony.

In a theoretical way your point is still valid though.

Nobody is going to use enough merits to make a difference, unless you do something to really annoy them of course. In that case, it would be more productive to use the trust system.

Not sure I understood what you are saying  ???

Wanna play ?
I'll give up to 10 merits to whoever can find out what your other alt accounts are.
My conscience obliges me too sorry.

Here we go again...

First : what does a complaint about the way French handle fake translators in the French section do on the Merit farming thread ? We don't have a real mod there, we have to do things by ourselves to debunk them, and I think we did it the good way : everything is in the open, every complaint is documented. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4404879)

Second : your profile accounts for 35 posts, half of them in English, half of them in the Arabic section. What about participating a bit in the French one before complaining about what happens there ? Or maybe you participated under another username and as a "translator" ?


It only concerns the translation problem, it is a bit restrictive to consider this as the whole French section, don't you think ?


Ok, well, so now you're a psychiatrist ?  ::)
(and please can you tell me under which username you said that ? I'd be curious to know...)
John is maybe the only person that has tried to clear the French section, and to be a mod instead of the one that's reported "missing" since more than a year.
He might be a bit clumsy in his way of saying things, but I guess that if I had tried to do what he tried to do, for as long as he did it, I'd be fed-up with all that too.


Really ? Pleaaaaaase !
I'm old enough to make my own decisions, no need of anyone for that.
Once more : I only post concerning the translation problems, I never post about anything else on the French section.


This one you'll have to explain to me, because I really don't get it at all.

If you're talking about this thread, I mean the Farm Merit one, I think John came back on it because he wants to right some things that he perceives as wrongs.
But then, what are those ANNs you're talking about ?
And... well I already said it in the French section : you might say "lady" or "girlfriend" when talking about a woman if you want to, but "boyfriend" definitely doesn't apply to me.



I don't even kill a bug or a spider, I'm not ready to burn someone alive.
Tear him to shreds virtually thanks to words... well, I'm not bad at this, but I must say you ask for it.



Well... maybe people don't read the French ANN anymore because there has been so much bad translations posted there that they are afraid to lose their time ?
And post an ANN thread and update it... I guess that's what the BM has paid him for.


So why don't you even give a fuck about all that ????
And make me lose my time by the same way.


OKKKKK... you've got quite a devious mind I might say.
And once more : a single topic concerning the French translator is not quite the same thing that "all the forum".


Once all this said...
When I read the structure of your sentences, the way you think and the fact that you implicated me (or in fact all the persons you implicate), if you add to that the fact that you have posted in the Arabic section too, I'm ready to make a wild guess : aren't you an alter for my dear friend rggadi ?



To the mods :
I debunked rggadi as a fake translator in the French section (based on his so-called "work"). He didn't like this at all and tried to come back to me : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439129.msg37998549#msg37998549
But all he managed to do is to look even more ridicule, so I guess he thinks he finally found a way to avenge himself.

If you ever need a quick summary of what's going on with this (even if I really don't see what it's doing in this thread), I'd be happy to provide it to you, as I'd be happy to translate all my posts in the French translators thread to you if needed.

Holy shit, I missed that. I had the Arabic board on "ignore" which is why I didn't see this in his post history.
So yeah Kalidos is probably rggadi lol.
Meeeh... enough said, the guy's a tool who got frustrated because we exposed him as an obvious Google translate user.
And no, we're not just 4 claiming his work is shit :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1254969

Anyway, back to the real matter here, sorry.

As for the topic in question, here is what we know :

-asche is not oscar. Everybody in the French community can confirm that.
-asche is smart, I don't see him "accepting" those merits without knowing of the consequences. He knew he would get caught eventually. But what can he do ? Create a thread here saying "I'm sorry, I don't deserve the merits, take them back, I hope you won't tag me for it" ? So I don't believe in the theory that he paid or even asked for the merits. You read his posts, he's not stupid... nobody is that stupid.
-oscar well... he is something else. Doesn't speak English, doesn't care much about anything including the value of his account.

Which leads me to what we do not know : everything !!!
Did Oscar try to setup asche ? Did oscar just play randomly without caring about what would happen ?
WE DON'T KNOW .

But the thing is asche is an asset to the French community.
You tag him ,we lose one of the best translators there. And he also translates in German !

The fact is oscar is not asche . The rest is pure speculation by someone... well someone who probably thinks he will get merits himself (huh Carlos ?) .

I just delete my post cause I'm tired with cheater that try to make me the bad guy, see above...

Do your job kenza, I did enough. It's your time.

thanks @missk, mister k was a bad idea ;)

You're a newbie with 35 posts at the time and we don't even know if you really read and understand french (maybe not) and you are giving an opinion about the french section ? It's a joke ???

Some members in the french section are trying to make it clean and attractive for newbies, there are no king or affiliate members as you wrote, I read stupid things but that it's obviously the most, which is as the same time disgusting. Everyone knows all that Johnuser made to help newbies and to improve the french section.

I don't translate because I don't have time and it's not my job but I love my french language, as many others it makes me upset when I see so many bad, very bad translations, thinking that people can even be paid for that ...

Yes some french translators are really fighting against spammers, what's wrong with that ?

You're a poor little jealous shit and nobody cares about your opinion.

Thanks Johnuser to show us this topic. It always funny to see Zorros  from the forums.

Things I am about to write will not change your mind, but I must tell you that on this subject: you are wrong.
But I agree Oscar2000 gave his merits in a stupid way for a stupid reason.

But you judge from numbers, from stats.
It would have been nice to know the people and understand them before condemning them.
It would have been nice to see the history of everyone's posts.

But it's hard to understand when you don't speak the language.
You could have contacted a trusted Frenchman to get his opinion. I don't know: the French mod for example ?
Errr wait, we don't have a French mod (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4423278.msg39454678#msg39454678) !! 3 posts in 2018. Wow !

Instead of burning fake witches, help us move Theymos' ass on this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4423278.msg39454678#msg39454678

And kalidos, come put your balls on the French forums instead of drooling your bile here.

1st you say I'm wrong

then you give same opinion.

Not sure the "you're wrong" was meant for you. Thought so at first too but I believe he is adressing Vod/others, and not you John.

Did you guys started tagging the merit abusers? Just to know so I can post 70+ cases

did you get school and learn to read ?

edit : asche; maybe I don't care.

Yes, sorry if I wasn't clear. "You are wrong" was for Zorros and Judges Dredd :)

I don't have your shitpost troller replies. Luckly ignore is here Adieu.

He is a bit salty, but if you had read, you would know that we are speaking of the case of the 2 guys reported at the beggining of this topic. They have not been reported by us, but by Vod. If you want to propose your list, create a new topic, and contact Vod. But I higly recommand you to read the last pages of this topic to understand what was the issue with this case, and why you should do a real investigation and think about it before reporting 70 cases you detected (I think) without thinking one second about the reason, or that the guy who received the merit points wasn't aware he will receive them.

Vod wanted to see what members think.

Since he said that, it looks like he hasn't even looked at this thread again...

If Vod could come around and have another read I'd appreciate it.

That deserves a negative feedback the post should be so good to get that amount of merits I only have 3 merits so far and surprise out of my many posts I finally get one I just content with what I could get and not cheat the system but I think I'm stuck to a junior level until a miracle happens.

I just want to ask, if someone is proven guilty of merit abuse, what will be the measures that need to be imposed on that someone?
I do not see any specific penalty/punishment regarding this.

Thank you.

He doesn't have to be proved as guilty, because they use the presumption of guiltiness instead of the usual presumption of innocence. And he will be red tagged by DT, and his account is useless for campaigns after that.




For the guy who sent the merit, maybe. But for the one who received it, no ! What if you finally get almost the merit you need to become member, and finally one guy send you 50 merit for one post ?

You are red tagged and your account become useless. Even if you never asked him to send any merit.