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Greetings,

I would love to sell 198 BTC on this forum. I have no intention of keeping them, Bitcoin looks like it keeps going down and up to often. Don't feel like risking it anymore.\

Stock picture: http://i.min.us/ijlSdy.png

Bulk (25+) is only $9.10/each coin!
Super Bulk (50+) is only $9/each coin!
Ultra Bulk (100+) is only $8.50/each coin!
All In (198) is only $8/each coin!

I don't know if accepting paypal is a good idea man.

Why is that?

You could get chargedback by some asshole and lose your coins. There's a sticky in this subforum about it. I'm just giving you a friendly warning.

Thank you, hopefully no asshole will contact me.

If I remember right Paypal won't let you charge back for virtual goods.  I'd buy 198 btc for 8 bucks each, but I'd like to use something more secure than paypal for such a large transaction.  Got burned for two BTC once because of paypal.  The guy said he would sell me 40 btc.  Lucky thing is told him I would only buy it in exponentially growing chunks starting by only buying two btc, to four, to eight ect...  I sent him the small payment for the two btc and he ran with it.  Because of the nature of the transaction PP wouldn't charge back.

Skyliner! What's up buddy?! Last account got flagged as scammer and you make a new one! nice one!

We'll buy all of them, for only a 3% fee ($9.50 each at current MtGox prices)! Go to Get-Bitcoin.com (http://get-bitcoin.com), or you can email us at admin@get-bitcoin.com to arrange the transaction privately.

Lol,I made this EXACT recommendation to the current user through messaging but he wanted to do a larger transaction instead by paying $100 @ a time.The user instead wanted me to pay first instead of sending me Bitcoin first while I pay for it it on scaled basis as trust would ensue on something a bit larger.I think its best to be cautious concerning this or use an escrow.

PM.

Craig

you have pm

Bunin tried to scam me multiple times. He charged back PayPal, and then he tricked me by sending a false WMZ payment. Warning! Do not trade this member. He is now threatening to "bust" me, and is accusing me of being another member.

Hmmm, where did you get your sources ? I'm curious because I don't like other's got their money stolen...

He obviously guessed.

This is what Skyliner would say to you when you pm'd him about his scam. Blah blah blah. Add my skype.
This is what Middleman says when you ask him about his scam. Blah blah blah. Add my skype.

Middleman also newly registered shortly after skyliner took the ban hammer.

Skyliner you're so cute. You probally should wait for you brain to develop a little more before you scam again.

????

Do not make accusations with out any proof. This sort of thing does not help anyone.

I reached the max private message limit, who ever just sent me PayPal will receive their Bitcoin's within 10 minutes!

@MiddleMan - it was me.

omeganemesis28@lssclan.org
$88 for 11BTC

Yeah, I know. I received a few other transactions too. Just doing a shout out.

Alrighty, just letting you know the transaction.

You have any coins left?

I will buy 50 @ 8 each....
Let me know

I IN THE MIDLE OF TRANSACTION SEND MONEY TROUGH PP NEVER GOT BTC YET WARNING!!!

HE PROMISE ME 198 BTC for $7 got to split in 4 payment and after first transaction initiate from my side and 12hours waiting no recived BTC on my account!

Ask for transaction number reference to make a trace from bitcoin explorer no answer!

same, waiting on the BTC

Sending out all Bitcoins.

If you are trying to PM me, I am not ignoring. I reached my max limit of PM's in 1 hour. So I cant reply!

hey again,

I tried to make it work but they won't let me direct debit to your paypal account.

Cheers anyways

Give a proof of transaction of your adress other way I will pull out the money!

Not to sound impatient or anything, just this is my first money transaction directly so just nervous. So far, no BTC received.

I send to him money 12hours a go and now selling to you BTC, this is not good. He suppose to sell me 198 in 4 transactions...
how much did he sell to you?

11BTC for $8 each. Doesnt sound anywhere near as large as yours. Very odd, I really hope this isn't a sham.

Did you sell with PayPall?

30-40 minutes since payment sent. Getting worried.

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yes

Sent. May take a bit for it to clear. I'm using an eWallet

what's your address?

I hope so please! :)

Ill give it another 10-20 minutes before I go into a panic lol

This is interesting.

Not really

he claim to be from:
Canada
email:
btcmiddleman@live.com
skype:
middleman (off line ... off course)
name:
Warren Branco
adress:
3191 Essendene Avenue
Abbotsford BC
V2S 2H7

every time I ask him a proof of transaction he denied, transactions can be traced trough bitcoin explorer

Ok my patience is thin. When I wanted to buy, it was no problem getting responses directly to me. Now after I sent the money, barely any response and very generic ones too.

MiddleMan, whats up, where are we at, why have ai not gotten my BTC? This is supposrd to be instant.
Thank god this is Paypal so I can chargeback if need be. People who abuse charhebak is one thing but to hate Paypal for it is absurd. I think i just got jipped and I may need it.

Wait, that was his paypal email?

dungoofdd@hotmail.com
is the one he made me send to.

Name: Brett Hammond

About to red flag the transaction.

dude it's a FUKING SCAM!!!

I JUST CLAIM ON PAYPALL
DO THE SAME

Oh good lord. My first time buying BTC and I get a fast one pulled on me. Brilliant.

5 more minutes MiddleMan and I'm claiming on Paypal. Whether it makes me look bad for some reason or not.

EDIT:
According to dungoofdd@hotmail.com, - he made the request on eWallet and is awaiting for it to sent out the BTC. So I'll give it so more time before I do it. He claims that he used his friends Paypal to make the transaction with me instead. So I'm a bit weary but now that I have a response I'll hold out a bit longer. Not sure why he can't just respond in the thread.

Bro it's all BS, I telling you it's last night I working with him with all excuses... up today... why should him deny me now when he work only with you... he got off line from skype and deny email trough this forum and not answer my requests on this forum????

WHY he is not here on this forum to discuss right now when he is online? Go in his profile and check his last posts!
If he cares should be writing to us!

According to him - he didnt send you anything last night because he didnt have access to his wallet at thetime. Now he does and sent you the transaction. Right now as of the moment he is not st his computer and is on his phone where he can only send emails. Try to contact him through that email.

He said its difficult on the forum through a blackberry

Why he should sell to you the BTC where we have an agreement where I buy all of them form yesterday!
Still BS

It's already past almost 12hours from yesterday for the first transaction he said send to me and 6 hours from today for the second attempt!

I am try to protect my and the community interest, I have be played with this especially when I am acting in good fait!!!

He got my money first!!!

I am chasing all his post in this forum and warning all the community!!!

for me sounds difficult to post into two thread with only 21 seconds interval too.
no?

hmmm difficult to believe

sources: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=36858;sa=showPosts

:-/

Logging into Paypal now.

NOW I AM ANGRY!!!

what can be done now, be side the $ to at list prevent this again or ban him? He still online active.... I try to chase his old posts!

I sent a dispute through Paypal. Shall we escalate it to claims? PM me and we should coordinate together to get through it with Paypal. I put it under software.

sure thing

BTW check this out

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34944.0

Ugh you know i really hate being the nice person and getting used all the time. Give an inch and they take a mile

http://i.min.us/ijlSdy.png
No one noticed the 0 connections?

WTF,Did no one read my posts earlier in the thread,WTF ? The fact he didn't respond to the allegations should have said something and though me placing a message here was enough guess some didn't see it.

I inquired him directly about it an he came up with a story about how you tried to use chargeback on a transaction when he had sent it.

Sorry I did not heed your warning and appreciate it. I just didnt see any evidnce of such abuse. Now Im in this situation because of my igorance I understand.

My idea was for him to send the bitcoins first in a small sum starting out with 1 then I would give him money for the transaction but he was insisting on me sending money first and didn't want to do small amounts.
It's not a problem at all,I think trust is always the issue here hence why you don't see too many members especially those that have garnered as trusted don't initiate business with anyone new really which I have found out by reading these forums.There IS a huge scam base here and steps should be taken in order to limit that issue if you know how.

I NEVER initiated any payment whatsoever because I am was not going to initiate any payment for anything unless trust can be built in stages...If someone doesn't want to or have the patience for that then simply they have a huge immediacy problem and should be considered a red flag of doing business with.

thanks for the tips.
Do you have any recommendations on where to do business like this that is better... trustworthy?

+1

Really guys? I warned you. Guess you'll all believe me next time, eh?

*sigh*

Nowhere. What you are asking for is literally impossible, at least for person-to-person transactions. All you can do is check the user's reputation and use a reputable escrow. If you don't want to do that, all you can do is use an exchange, which I know isn't the answer you wanted to hear.

who can we use as a escrow?

Good question, nobody is really reputable anymore. There use to be Gavin's escrow, ClearCoin, but he shut that down. You can try BTCrow, but don't be suprised if, once they gain more volume, they just decide to take everyone's coins and run like MyBitcoin did*.

*Don't even try arguing this, the technicals confirm it.

https://mybitsafe.com/ and http://eptiv.com/ are the main ones I'm familiar with.
I'm not sure how trustworthy they are.

Please note, there is no escrow or any way to make PayPal payments safe. Payments can be disputed 60 days after you received them, or longer than that if the payment was made from a credit card. Consider that stolen credit cards can be used to make these PayPal payments to you. Trading digital currency is against PayPal's policy, and complaining to PayPal about not receiving your BTC or having your payment reversed is just as likely to get your account frozen.

I've always wondered though,why doesn't the site have a built-in escrow service w/ a built-in feedback option instead of outsourcing to tertiary forum holders ? It seems quite logical and could save a lot of patience about trust issues....not to mention it could promote the ideal of Bitcoin a whole lot quicker knowing that there is at least some foundation for a more secure transaction even if by appearance like what paypal did for Ebay.

wow... I first read this with my cellphone and was very surprised that someone say that. Then once I logged on my computer I saw that you were a moderator on this forum... I'm very very surprised that a moderator try to harm my business made to help others from scammers and have already made good and big transactions over 80 BTC...

This is a very bad practice you did today. It's a false accusation and lead potentials users to not use it and getting scammed again by other malicious people such as MiddleMan.

I don't know if you're just mad because you loose your bitcoins with MyBitcoin and you loose faith in bitcoin, but what I can ensure is that you have absolutely no reason of saying this and trying to harm my business...

Reported to ... ahhh sure you're a moderator you just gonna ignore this reporting ...

+1
your doing a great job highly recommend your service

Just because of this post, I will forever use your services any time I need to use escrow.

I have only respect for your business. However, you have to agree that you nor any other escrow service currently out there is actually as reputable as an escrow service should be.

That being said, I will probably still use you in any transaction that requires me to use an escrow, just because you're the best we have.
Because we're already a large central point of failure. The community needs to decentralize, and that would make the issue worse.

I am glade today to read all this posts on a topic start with a problem and become with some solutions!

Thank you for your contributions! I mean it!  :)

Thanks for this clarification, that's what I was expecting to receive as reply by a reputable member of this community, especially a mod.

In the meantime I would like to let people know how much and how big transaction have been made using my escrow service to be more transparent, but I let the users decide if they wanna post feedback on this forum, and don't want to violate their privacy, so the only thing I could do in my opinion to have more reputation is waiting and the time will help my business and in the same time the bitcoin comunity.

If you have idea on how to get more reputation (in long or short term) I would be really happy to hear from you.

Thanks
Jules

Am I the only one who realized during this whole thread that this guy said he maxed out his inbox in a matter of 6 days? That's obvious scammer activity. I realize he's labeled as a scammer now, but there were still people tryin to trade with him after that post lol.

Not all of us I have that much competence and/or experience, there is always involve that element call TRUST!