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Title: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: dave111223 on November 27, 2013, 01:27:39 AM
Code:
Hashrate:  > 3TH
Delivery: "end of winter/early spring" (March 2014?)
Cost:  $9,995 plus shipping
Chip: 20nm
Power Usage: < 0.8 Watts/GH
Order Status:  Pre-order currently open to old customers
Production Status: Planned (not taped out)

Official announcement: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-69

If these stats are incorrect or inaccurate please post better specs in the thread and I'll update them here

https://www.kncminer.com/pictures/carousel/5442.png


Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: ipxtreme on November 27, 2013, 01:29:16 AM
Did not see any mentions of this on the knc thread; so though I would start a new thread on, what appears to be, their next-gen chips.

There seemed to be a fairly large consensus on the forum that 20nm tech was years away from being using mining; but now it could be available in a few months.

Anyone got any ideas on specs or costs?

Speculate away.

https://www.kncminer.com/pictures/carousel/5442.png

$9,995 plus shipping


Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: Sitarow on November 27, 2013, 01:30:13 AM
Did not see any mentions of this on the knc thread; so though I would start a new thread on, what appears to be, their next-gen chips.

There seemed to be a fairly large consensus on the forum that 20nm tech was years away from being using mining; but now it could be available in a few months.

Anyone got any ideas on specs or costs?

Speculate away.

https://www.kncminer.com/pictures/carousel/5442.png

$9,995 plus shipping

Most expect shipping end of March first week of April.

expect power consumption at 0.82watts per GH/s


Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: CeeCee on November 27, 2013, 01:30:30 AM
oh yes you are the first and only one who mentioned this  ::)

read from here on:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg3708778#msg3708778


Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: eiliant on November 27, 2013, 01:35:18 AM
Did not see any mentions of this on the knc thread; so though I would start a new thread on, what appears to be, their next-gen chips.

The thread mentioned it as soon as the picture appeared, and then again, as soon as the orders started. All on the latest pages.

Are you sure you read the top of the Custom Hardware, 1000+ pages, very obvious KNCMiner thread?


Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: amer on November 27, 2013, 01:42:57 AM
It deserves its own thread, the consolidation of everything here is a bit too extreme.


Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: miter_myles on November 27, 2013, 01:45:10 AM
It deserves its own thread, the consolidation of everything here is a bit too extreme.

lol - dont think you were around when there were 2982347896239 BFL, Avalon and bASIC threads all about the same shit


Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: dave111223 on November 27, 2013, 02:02:33 AM
OK, clearly not the first to post about it, but maybe would be useful to have a separate thread for KnC next-gen.

I have updated the OP with the stats that I've been able to find so far on this miner.


Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: ScaryHash on November 27, 2013, 02:08:44 AM
So wait a minute.

At .7 W/Gh, and 2 TH/s, 1 TH = 1000 Gh, so the Neptune will consume at least 1400 W of power??...

That would pretty much max out one residential 15 A circuit.

That's a lot of power and a LOT of hashing power as well.

Pretty darned efficient.



Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: joeventura on November 27, 2013, 02:11:47 AM
Code:
hrate:  >2THHas
Delivery: "end of winter/early spring" (March 2014?)
Cost:  $9,995 plus shipping
Chip: 20nm
Power Usage: 0.7 Watts/GH
Order Status:  Pre-order currently open to old customers
Production Status: Planned (not taped out)

If these stats are incorrect or inaccurate please post better specs in the thread and I'll update them here

https://www.kncminer.com/pictures/carousel/5442.png

hrate:  >3TH


Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: dave111223 on November 27, 2013, 03:00:03 AM
hrate:  >3TH

Source?  Here is saying 2TH: http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-pre-orders-next-asic/


Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: plasmoske on November 27, 2013, 03:05:43 AM
Source? Get it directly from KNC website/news section not some shoddy website.


Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: allinvain on November 27, 2013, 05:10:12 AM
So wait a minute.

At .7 W/Gh, and 2 TH/s, 1 TH = 1000 Gh, so the Neptune will consume at least 1400 W of power??...

That would pretty much max out one residential 15 A circuit.

That's a lot of power and a LOT of hashing power as well.

Pretty darned efficient.



2100 watts per unit if the W/GH figure is accurate; it could end up being slightly higher or lower. Either way they are _not_ "pretty darned efficient". There are other ASIC mining companies that claim to have lower power consumption figures. A perfect example of efficiency is the bitfury chips. They are more efficient on a 55nm manufacturing process than the current 28nm chips. If bitfury were to use 20nm or even 28nm I bet you anything they'd have the most efficient chips of the whole bunch.


Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: Bitcoinorama on November 27, 2013, 11:34:46 AM
More than 3Th/s

Less than 0.8 w/Gh/s is what I'm happy to state, bearing in mind that's based upon a convo between Marcus, and I.



Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: Vanderi on November 27, 2013, 11:41:09 AM
I read in an article with the CEO that there will potentially be firmware where the miner sees how much power it will get and assign it's extra (yes it is over-resourced in a way) cores until the plug says stop.


Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: BTCscraper on November 27, 2013, 12:43:46 PM
Plasmoske:  This is from the KnC order page:

http://s28.postimg.org/7cnyn4dgd/Kn_Cneptune.jpg


Title: Re: [KnCMiner] Neptune 20nm "early 2014"
Post by: papamoi on November 27, 2013, 03:25:45 PM
mine will be 10 times cheaper

but wattage will be more