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Bitcoin => Mining => Topic started by: CrackedLogic on November 28, 2013, 06:10:50 PM



Title: Mining on a web server.
Post by: CrackedLogic on November 28, 2013, 06:10:50 PM
I just want to try mining on a server for 1 month,
I know it's not profitable, but does anyone know how to?


Title: Re: Mining on a web server.
Post by: rarkenin on November 28, 2013, 09:58:40 PM
For quite a few reasons, this is not very profitable:

  • Webservers generally do not have GPUs. CPUs are completely useless, and GPUs are unprofitable.
  • The server owner/host will likely terminate your service as bitcoin mining is stressful on hardware.
  • Webservers do not allow long-standing requests. A limit anywhere from 5 to 30 seconds is not unheard of, and in that case mining will have to start, and restart, and restart, and restart, ad infinitum.

Have you considered using your server to provide services/sell goods for BTC instead?

Anyway, some servers that allow long-running requests (JSP/jetty services are more flexible in my experience) would allow you to theoretically mine if you adapted Java-based miner code(Diablominer or so) to be started by a servlet.


Title: Re: Mining on a web server.
Post by: ZirconiumX on November 30, 2013, 05:23:07 PM
Webservers generally do not have GPUs. CPUs are completely useless, and GPUs are unprofitable.

CPUs are *not* completely useless if you mine the right coin.

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The server owner/host will likely terminate your service as bitcoin mining is stressful on hardware.

And (as is usually the case for efficiency reasons) running multiple web servers at once isn't?

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Webservers do not allow long-standing requests. A limit anywhere from 5 to 30 seconds is not unheard of, and in that case mining will have to start, and restart, and restart, and restart, ad infinitum.

This is a valid point.

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Have you considered using your server to provide services/sell goods for BTC instead?

This will usually bring in quite a bit of profit, though things like this are very hard to code.

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Anyway, some servers that allow long-running requests (JSP/jetty services are more flexible in my experience) would allow you to theoretically mine if you adapted Java-based miner code(Diablominer or so) to be started by a servlet.

This is possible, but Java is...slow, to say the least.

Matthew:out


Title: Re: Mining on a web server.
Post by: CrackedLogic on November 30, 2013, 06:41:06 PM
Webservers generally do not have GPUs. CPUs are completely useless, and GPUs are unprofitable.

CPUs are *not* completely useless if you mine the right coin.

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The server owner/host will likely terminate your service as bitcoin mining is stressful on hardware.

And (as is usually the case for efficiency reasons) running multiple web servers at once isn't?

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Webservers do not allow long-standing requests. A limit anywhere from 5 to 30 seconds is not unheard of, and in that case mining will have to start, and restart, and restart, and restart, ad infinitum.

This is a valid point.

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Have you considered using your server to provide services/sell goods for BTC instead?

This will usually bring in quite a bit of profit, though things like this are very hard to code.

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Anyway, some servers that allow long-running requests (JSP/jetty services are more flexible in my experience) would allow you to theoretically mine if you adapted Java-based miner code(Diablominer or so) to be started by a servlet.

This is possible, but Java is...slow, to say the least.

Matthew:out


Thanks man...

I already figured on what I can do to bring profit.
I wanted to mine just for the fun of it.




So, to be concluded, there is no possible way to mine on a web server??


Title: Re: Mining on a web server.
Post by: rarkenin on November 30, 2013, 07:11:52 PM
This is possible, but Java is...slow, to say the least.

Java need not mine directly, and hotspot optimization is better than you may think. If it wasn't for the GPU issues one's servlets would include DiabloMiner which has comparable hashrates to other, non-Java miners on the same GPU.


Title: Re: Mining on a web server.
Post by: kostja on December 01, 2013, 12:05:34 AM
Is on market offers for cloud rent of farms with full cloud access and electricity costs included?
I will rent 2x HD7990 GPU computers with 1 - 3 - 12 months access, but not see how much are the prices for such service.
I have access to energy produced from medium solar pannel plant, and need convert this energy in €.


Title: Re: Mining on a web server.
Post by: Steve1981 on February 01, 2014, 10:53:23 AM
People who have radeon GPU compatible with mining, will mining themself.
They will do the most profit deal.