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Title: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: JungleEskimo on May 03, 2018, 10:52:29 PM
besides bitcoin, maybe litecoin too, most other altcoins only function is speculation isnt it? You can't buy anything with any of the newer altcoins and though they do have a lot of potential utility everyone needs to get educated on how they can be used to begin with, and only after big decisions are made to start using them. And then after that people will only buy as much as they need to use. And even then only if the price is stable.

That's a long ass time to hodl


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: adroitful_one on May 03, 2018, 11:03:19 PM
besides bitcoin, maybe litecoin too, most other altcoins only function is speculation isnt it? You can't buy anything with any of the newer altcoins and though they do have a lot of potential utility everyone needs to get educated on how they can be used to begin with, and only after big decisions are made to start using them. And then after that people will only buy as much as they need to use. And even then only if the price is stable.

That's a long ass time to hodl

Well, it's just like any other investment. It's all speculation. You just have to do your research on the projects you invest in and be convinced that it's going to go up eventually. Sure, a lot of coins can't be used to purchase goods/services, but that doesn't necessarily make them worthless either.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: boss1dg on May 03, 2018, 11:22:14 PM
speculation is not a suitable word , you dont depend just on speculation for any coin future .
ethereum has a good utility , NEO has a good future for upcoming platform to launch ICO on NEO .
IOTA working on its tangle and other innovative ideas .

so everything depend on their project and real life usage of blockchain technology of those coins ..
if they succeed you also win , if they fails to deliver you also lose money ..


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: Primal6666 on May 03, 2018, 11:23:32 PM
besides bitcoin, maybe litecoin too, most other altcoins only function is speculation isnt it? You can't buy anything with any of the newer altcoins and though they do have a lot of potential utility everyone needs to get educated on how they can be used to begin with, and only after big decisions are made to start using them. And then after that people will only buy as much as they need to use. And even then only if the price is stable.

That's a long ass time to hodl

In my opinion, any trade is speculation. Even if you are a producer. If coins have a price, it means that they are used for something. Perhaps you will not see a coin in the store, but for private or anonymous deals, any one can be used.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: rosered on May 04, 2018, 02:28:31 AM
I believe in the development of cryptocurrency as a new thing. Just like the initial trading of the stock, it is also experienced a lot of distrust before going to today. The same goes for digital currencies. ;D


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: bvar69 on May 04, 2018, 02:53:26 AM
Yes it is speculation but so is the Tesla stock.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: bitcoinposts on May 04, 2018, 01:16:27 PM
There was a rumor that coinmarketcap is doing inside speculation on prices it might be a Fud news but we cant rely on the news but the news broke the prices to new down prices it affected the momentum in trusting the coin index


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: bitekoin on May 04, 2018, 02:44:14 PM

It's easy to buy into what others say. I would say that if you buy shilled coins, then you can run into such conclusions. It's also lazy and careless. Do your own research.
You just need to basically check two things for a solid coin. One is a good team. Two is a coin with a future/purpose. With those two, you can definitely be positive that what you have there is a good coin to invest in.

With that, go check out Multiversum. The project this big can't avoid some criticisms. But I've done my own research and I am confident in the project.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: semobo on May 04, 2018, 03:53:38 PM
besides bitcoin, maybe litecoin too, most other altcoins only function is speculation isnt it? You can't buy anything with any of the newer altcoins and though they do have a lot of potential utility everyone needs to get educated on how they can be used to begin with, and only after big decisions are made to start using them. And then after that people will only buy as much as they need to use. And even then only if the price is stable.

That's a long ass time to hodl
Yes,we are using cryotocurrency mainly for its speculation but if someone hold it for future use then he may get more benefits out of it.Still cryotocurrencies are not accepted as a payment mode so we can't expect the people to use it for only payment method when it give good opportunity to make money.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: nsasuiteb on May 04, 2018, 04:39:44 PM
Definetely it is, normally most coins must reach their current values after 1-2 years if their project will be successful and there will be real demand for coins, now they are all bought by us ''speculators''


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: European Central Bank on May 04, 2018, 05:39:59 PM
yes. and bitcoin is 99.9% speculation too. the rest are a cool 100%.

when people shout 'utility' when it comes to ethereum, the only utility it has is creating more shitcoins and ICOs. that's not solving a real world problem.

the party will stop at some point. it's up to people to have something useful to show for all this before it falls to the floor. there's nothing out there yet.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: Bardman on May 04, 2018, 06:10:06 PM
besides bitcoin, maybe litecoin too, most other altcoins only function is speculation isnt it? You can't buy anything with any of the newer altcoins and though they do have a lot of potential utility everyone needs to get educated on how they can be used to begin with, and only after big decisions are made to start using them. And then after that people will only buy as much as they need to use. And even then only if the price is stable.

That's a long ass time to hodl

Litecoin is nothing but a copy of bitcoin, lol. Everything is speculation but obviously stocks have a business behind them so there is always a product or products unlike many cryptocurrencies which have no product and they still are worth a lot.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: onecall123 on May 04, 2018, 06:19:24 PM
Well, it's just like any other investment. It's all speculation. You just have to do your research on the projects you invest in and be convinced that it's going to go up eventually. Sure, a lot of coins can't be used to purchase goods/services, but that doesn't necessarily make them worthless either.
Well said. Yes, without no information about the coin means your entry is in danger. Nobody (including me) in the entire world knows what the price will be the next day. Purchase based on the research and make patience.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: sweerty1 on May 04, 2018, 06:21:33 PM
It is not entirely true or wrong. By that I mean yeah it is somewha valid argument that you bought altcoins expecting them to reach higher prices to sell others so its like all other businesses but MORE speculation involved.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: Serg22 on May 04, 2018, 07:11:06 PM
I agree that the whole cryptocurrency world is a speculation on which each participant wants to earn his profit.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: Bardman on May 04, 2018, 07:20:38 PM
I agree that the whole cryptocurrency world is a speculation on which each participant wants to earn his profit.

Any investor in any market wants to earn money, that's why the invest, usually. The team/employees of the stock/cryptocurrency are the ones that need to give their product value, they are the ones doing the hard work, there have been numerous times where a business only was created for speculation purposes where they didn't even have products and were just buying other companies to make products for them.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: greeklogos on May 04, 2018, 07:31:25 PM
besides bitcoin, maybe litecoin too, most other altcoins only function is speculation isnt it? You can't buy anything with any of the newer altcoins and though they do have a lot of potential utility everyone needs to get educated on how they can be used to begin with, and only after big decisions are made to start using them. And then after that people will only buy as much as they need to use. And even then only if the price is stable.

That's a long ass time to hodl
I think all coins are simple speculation and we have nothing to do with that besides to play this rules. The problem is that there is no control on the market, so people basically earn money with all possible ways, the speculation is themost popular here.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: Idrisu on May 04, 2018, 07:49:27 PM
Speculative? Yes and you just need to think well for you to be able to invest in those projects and coins that are going to make you good money. I have been speculative about some project lately and some of them has followed what I think about them.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: Febo on May 04, 2018, 09:03:36 PM
besides bitcoin, maybe litecoin too, most other altcoins only function is speculation isnt it? You can't buy anything with any of the newer altcoins and though they do have a lot of potential utility everyone needs to get educated on how they can be used to begin with, and only after big decisions are made to start using them. And then after that people will only buy as much as they need to use. And even then only if the price is stable.

That's a long ass time to hodl

Some coins are used like Monero.  Also some tokens are used.  But yes, there is lots of coins and tokens without anyone using them.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: exalterego on May 04, 2018, 09:59:09 PM
Some alts are really valuable, ecpecially those dealing with the applicable spheres of our life.
You should thorougly study the prospects of the project (its whitepaper, deadlines and, of course, its founders) in order to make a good investment.
Ethereum has made its name through a unique system of smart contracts - so what prevents all other crypto-currencies from doing the same thing?


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: Gibreil on May 04, 2018, 10:20:56 PM
besides bitcoin, maybe litecoin too, most other altcoins only function is speculation isnt it? You can't buy anything with any of the newer altcoins and though they do have a lot of potential utility everyone needs to get educated on how they can be used to begin with, and only after big decisions are made to start using them. And then after that people will only buy as much as they need to use. And even then only if the price is stable.

That's a long ass time to hodl
Speculation occurs by the time that you are hearing the guess and opinion of the people to the series of events that what will happen to your coin, specially the coin you've hold. Utility of the coin can be applied when we are choosing a new coin/existing coin that we wants to invest. The potential of the coin to increase it's value is one of the reason on how we pick a coin. In conclusion, we are choosing of coin based upon it's utility and we speculate the coin based on it's potential.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: makishart on May 04, 2018, 10:41:51 PM
besides bitcoin, maybe litecoin too, most other altcoins only function is speculation isnt it? You can't buy anything with any of the newer altcoins and though they do have a lot of potential utility everyone needs to get educated on how they can be used to begin with, and only after big decisions are made to start using them. And then after that people will only buy as much as they need to use. And even then only if the price is stable.

That's a long ass time to hodl

Some coins are used like Monero.  Also some tokens are used.  But yes, there is lots of coins and tokens without anyone using them.
Monero only used to make anonymous transaction but sadly it against the regulation and especially in japan which the government already suggested by some parties to remove monero to the all of trading exchange sites in japan, not only monero but all of the privacy coins. Monero has basic value.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: haryatiposton01 on May 05, 2018, 02:02:23 AM
Besides Bitcoin and Litecoin, I think Ethereum, Neo and Ripple also have powerful utilities, some other altcoins also have good utilities though untested, I think time will determine the existence of those coins.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: Yuuto on May 05, 2018, 07:23:36 AM
besides bitcoin, maybe litecoin too, most other altcoins only function is speculation isnt it? You can't buy anything with any of the newer altcoins and though they do have a lot of potential utility everyone needs to get educated on how they can be used to begin with, and only after big decisions are made to start using them. And then after that people will only buy as much as they need to use. And even then only if the price is stable.

That's a long ass time to hodl

That's the beauty of it.

Although newer alts do not have the utility right now, and most are indeed just speculative assets, it doesn't mean that in the future they cannot serve a useful purpose. And when they do, their value would almost certainly skyrocket. That is essentially what long term holders of altcoins are hoping to happen.

But you're right, most alts aren't worth buying into at all and will never be useful irl. For the long term I'd only hold a selection of the few coins that I actually deem to be practical and needed in the real world, and you should probably consider that too. But all currencies, whether crypto or not, altcoin or bitcoin, will carry a degree of speculation to it. The problem is how much.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: Raist on May 05, 2018, 07:46:31 AM
besides bitcoin, maybe litecoin too, most other altcoins only function is speculation isnt it? You can't buy anything with any of the newer altcoins and though they do have a lot of potential utility everyone needs to get educated on how they can be used to begin with, and only after big decisions are made to start using them. And then after that people will only buy as much as they need to use. And even then only if the price is stable.

That's a long ass time to hodl

Well they say that 90% of everything is bullshit... yep - it is in this case-))). But other 10% is making all the difference in the world. Crypto can solve a lot of problems. Even if we consider mining as a very unreasonable and extensional way of making this system go-round still - it is just an energy. It is given by nature and if free from taxes it is very inexpensive. And we really cannot foresee how much usage and advantages systems like Ethereum can bring here.
With only two exceptions. According to the well-known paradox transactions with crypto will be slower and more costly than the previous system.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: suzanne5223 on May 05, 2018, 09:17:21 AM
besides bitcoin, maybe litecoin too, most other altcoins only function is speculation isnt it? You can't buy anything with any of the newer altcoins and though they do have a lot of potential utility everyone needs to get educated on how they can be used to begin with, and only after big decisions are made to start using them. And then after that people will only buy as much as they need to use. And even then only if the price is stable.

That's a long ass time to hodl
Yes, you're right. Apart from bitcoin almost other altcoin only base on speculation but i dont think altcoins like Ethereum and ripple function on speculation cause the smart contract help Ethereum to boost their market while the banking system, money gran and Western union are the key for Ripple. However, people still to be educated on how to make use cryptocurrency for their daily activities.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: lx001 on May 05, 2018, 09:26:51 AM
Practically all tokens have no real world usage but still some of them have skyrocketed in value, and I am not talking about Ethereum. They go up not because loads of people use them but only because loads of people speculate. The majority will never be used in real life, but people think they will get adopted. Even Ethereum is not needed for an average Joe. Everyone here is for the Dollar, just look at this speculation forum board.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: TheAndy500 on May 05, 2018, 10:05:30 AM
besides bitcoin, maybe litecoin too, most other altcoins only function is speculation isnt it? You can't buy anything with any of the newer altcoins and though they do have a lot of potential utility everyone needs to get educated on how they can be used to begin with, and only after big decisions are made to start using them. And then after that people will only buy as much as they need to use. And even then only if the price is stable.

That's a long ass time to hodl
Whole market, including litecoin and bitcoin, is speculation, it is not possible to speculate price of coin for more than month cause this market like to go down or up and suprise all investors.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: wangli370404 on May 05, 2018, 10:25:20 AM
Dude, you're thinking a little bit more. In this case, it's worth it if you make a profit. Regardless of whether the coin in your hand can directly succeed shopping, as long as it can be realized, it can't become possible.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: berrygood on May 05, 2018, 11:48:49 AM
I don't think bitcoin's market cap is speculation but if you look at the market, out of top 100 coins, 90% of them are nothint but trash so entire market cap is not equal to the whole value of the market.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: nelmari on May 05, 2018, 12:27:05 PM
Yes you are right OP and it really would be a long wait to hodl before you can really make use of your cryptocurrencies tou bought. And of course I think the entire market cap is pure specualtions, nothing and no one really knows what will happen next.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: LooBaao on May 05, 2018, 12:48:20 PM
Right then you, the entire market capitalization is money from investors who have poured into the market. These virtual coins do not themselves make money, but they carry a mission of commitment to the value that they create for us.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: BaraxLo on May 08, 2018, 10:50:52 AM
Right then you, the entire market capitalization is money from investors who have poured into the market. These virtual coins do not themselves make money, but they carry a mission of commitment to the value that they create for us.
If I am not wrong, this is the case with every market of the world. Let’s just talk about gold or KFC products. Definitely they can’t themselves make money either. I mean this is a damn obvious thing that the people who spend money are the real reason behind increasing market capital. A small and a new market like the crypto one is more fluctuating one and unstable too and can grow at quicker rate.


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: fleeb22 on May 08, 2018, 11:02:06 AM
yes its speculation but in a way all markets are speculations. i mean sure if you invest in stocks you have a company with products but you are speculating on the success of these products


Title: Re: The entire market cap of cryptocurrencies is speculation isnt it?
Post by: nairb131 on May 08, 2018, 11:18:42 AM
I will say yes that all cryptocurrencies are speculations as they are not widely accepted as a means of making payment, it is only limited to few companies and country that they are accepted as a mode of payment. Before investing or joining a particular project it is good to be sure of the main aim of the project and the team behind it. By doing this research, you can convince yourself of what the main objective of that project it before joining.