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Title: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Didi CC on May 04, 2018, 08:20:12 AM Ready to order, the Zcash Asic from Bitmain.
What you all gonna do ? I mine Zcash for more then a year now, but I don't know if I continue. Zooko isn't realy clear about what he will do, the community is devided about the Asics. I say, Fork the thing or a lot of miners will go away from Zcash, they will wait for the final pump and after that dump the shit out of it..... Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Mike011 on May 04, 2018, 10:06:38 AM What will i do? Sell all the zec and never look back at that shit coin. Luckily, there are tons of other coins to mine.
Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Sandal_Hat on May 04, 2018, 10:20:11 AM The efficiency gap is worlds apart.
A bicycle can never compete with a motorcycle. Gpus will move out of Zcash Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: LTCMAXMYR on May 04, 2018, 10:54:09 AM sell out that shit,and Never buy any ASIC altcoin.
GPU miners, welcome to zerecoin(XZC) Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Suslived on May 04, 2018, 11:10:03 AM What will i do? Sell all the zec and never look back at that shit coin. Luckily, there are tons of other coins to mine. The problem is how long will those other coins last? Once bitmain starts mining the shit out of ZEC all the other large mining farms will also start mining other coins and profits will surely decrease for everyone. This is really worrying. I'm considering selling all my GPUs and just buying one or two Z9 ASICs. Any tips? Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Riptide_NVN on May 04, 2018, 12:59:37 PM Totally agree. The more (shitty) projects that don't get away from ASIC dominance just pushes GPU hash onto fewer other projects. The end result is skyrocketing difficulty - for everyone.
If eth and zec would fork we'd all be in much better shape. The cunts refuse to do it. So we're in a bad situation now. Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: cvsea on May 04, 2018, 01:04:32 PM Nobody cares.
Their agendas can move forward with or without gpu miners. It should be "support the ones that support(ed) you". Unfortunately the world doesn't work that way. Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Riptide_NVN on May 04, 2018, 01:07:53 PM ^^ Ed Zachary
So what do you do? Just mine the creek until it's played out. No other deposits to mine? Then sell your shovel and pan. Get out. Either that or spend more money on heavy equipment (aka, ASIC or FPGA) and compete on the big boy level. Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: qbert7 on May 04, 2018, 01:12:48 PM With any luck this will kill zcash and its founders tax for good. Why would anyone gpu mine this right now? You can mine better coins and sell them for more of this crap.
Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: cvsea on May 04, 2018, 01:21:28 PM ^^ Ed Zachary So what do you do? Just mine the creek until it's played out. No other deposits to mine? Then sell your shovel and pan. Get out. Either that or spend more money on heavy equipment (aka, ASIC or FPGA) and compete on the big boy level. Well, I'm not yet worried. My gear is paid off and hashing away making me a nice profit. The news just came as a disappointment to me (I'm talking crypto in general) correlated with the fact that the zec dev or whatever he is (the zoo guy) said they didn't actually mean to keep the asics away if and when they showed up as they originally promoted and lead people to buy gpu's for this purpose. They I remembered they take 20% of what everybody makes. Maybe it's just me but this is in your face robbery. If they don't fork it will be obvious they have some kind of deal worked out behind closed doors. Even if zec forks, I'm almost certain that in the near future Bitmain plans to have it's own version of the top 10 mineable coins. It's just good business. I think Jihan is damn proud of what he accomplished so far :D Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: N2DCRYPT on May 04, 2018, 01:21:37 PM Lol... if Zcash really chooses to go the way of the ASIC, I say let them go for it. At that point I'll have zero interest and zero reason to support this coin at all.
Whatever Zcash claims to be, as far as I'm concerned Dash already fits the bill and is already ASIC'd. No reason for Zcash to exist anymore imo if they go this route. Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Marvell2 on May 04, 2018, 02:10:56 PM Lol... if Zcash really chooses to go the way of the ASIC, I say let them go for it. At that point I'll have zero interest and zero reason to support this coin at all. ^Whatever Zcash claims to be, as far as I'm concerned Dash already fits the bill and is already ASIC'd. No reason for Zcash to exist anymore imo if they go this route. pretty much this, we already have dash , if gpus cant mine zcash fuck them and thier zsnarks , zencash will fork no doubt profits on that should double Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: lunobird on May 04, 2018, 03:01:38 PM You miners are self centered. Miners need quality coins to mine. Coins do not need specific miners to get them.
If you were a large gold nugget do you really care about how you were extracted. Selling your zcash over this would be a dumb financial move but your free to do whatever you want. Just be a man and don't cry when it moons and have it's moment Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: norminorm on May 04, 2018, 03:13:54 PM This is my post when monero did the fork.
"To ALL GPU fellow miners. April 06, 2018, 11:43:57 PM Guys, this is the message from the founder of ZCASH. "Furthermore, it is speculated that Equihash ASICs are out in the wild, but after a community debate, Zcash founder Zooko Wilcox stated that he ‘doesn’t want to deal with this,’ suggesting ASICs for this blockchain network will not be countered and pointed out that people are free to fork the altcoin to fight ASICs while Zcash focuses on more urgent and important development issues." and one of the founders of ETHEREUM (VITALIK) he would like to go POS because he thinks GPU mining is bad for planet earth (hope he goes to China to see the pollution there). Well those TWO CLOWNS forget where they come from. Lets teach them what it is "mining power / power of the community" that make them rich. Just stop mining there crap coins, stop trading those coins / mine and support Monero or any other coins that care about you - why because they stick for YOU." So you guys should do "what you are the best at" - mine and support crypto but only the coins that stick for you. This community make coins like ETH and ZEC from zero to the place where they are today, now looks like ETH and ZEC they dont need you anymore - so we should dump them stop using , trading for etc. ASIC, specially when is made by one company is called centralized - a fundamental breach in the foundation of crypto world. Some may argue that we use GPU from 2 companies (AMD and nvidia) but those companies dont mine crypto. Still believe TWO CLOWNS own explanation to the community that support them for years (if they have the guts to do it). Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Dagamus(NM) on May 04, 2018, 03:26:48 PM sell out that shit,and Never buy any ASIC altcoin. GPU miners, welcome to zerecoin(XZC) What pool are you using for XZC? Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: fanatic26 on May 04, 2018, 03:36:28 PM Man you guys are so hilarious.
All of your care about coins being GPU minable is pure and simple greed. Try not to forget what crypto is for, its not just mining profits.... Title: Re: They're here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: not.you on May 04, 2018, 03:37:49 PM This is my post when monero did the fork. "To ALL GPU fellow miners. April 06, 2018, 11:43:57 PM Guys, this is the message from the founder of ZCASH. "Furthermore, it is speculated that Equihash ASICs are out in the wild, but after a community debate, Zcash founder Zooko Wilcox stated that he ‘doesn’t want to deal with this,’ suggesting ASICs for this blockchain network will not be countered and pointed out that people are free to fork the altcoin to fight ASICs while Zcash focuses on more urgent and important development issues." and one of the founders of ETHEREUM (VITALIK) he would like to go POS because he thinks GPU mining is bad for planet earth (hope he goes to China to see the pollution there). Well those TWO CLOWNS forget where they come from. Lets teach them what it is "mining power / power of the community" that make them rich. Just stop mining there crap coins, stop trading those coins / mine and support Monero or any other coins that care about you - why because they stick for YOU." So you guys should do "what you are the best at" - mine and support crypto but only the coins that stick for you. This community make coins like ETH and ZEC from zero to the place where they are today, now looks like ETH and ZEC they dont need you anymore - so we should dump them stop using , trading for etc. ASIC, specially when is made by one company is called centralized - a fundamental breach in the foundation of crypto world. Some may argue that we use GPU from 2 companies (AMD and nvidia) but those companies dont mine crypto. Still believe TWO CLOWNS own explanation to the community that support them for years (if they have the guts to do it). Vitalik is essentially correct though. The amount of electricity used to mine cryptos is excessive and bad for the planet. I wouldn't say it is wasted exactly, some amount of electricity to support these crypto networks is necessary and serving a useful purpose but the sheer amount involved now is definitely wasteful and bad for the planet. The funny thing about ZEC in particular though is that the real reason to hate on it is the 20% dev tax. That has always been an obscene ripoff and all the reason anyone ever really needed to regard it as a shitcoin. I have no idea how it ever got so valuable in the first place. Also @OP of this thread, please fix your title. The word you want is "they're" not "there". Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Mike011 on May 04, 2018, 04:14:41 PM What will i do? Sell all the zec and never look back at that shit coin. Luckily, there are tons of other coins to mine. The problem is how long will those other coins last? Once bitmain starts mining the shit out of ZEC all the other large mining farms will also start mining other coins and profits will surely decrease for everyone. This is really worrying. I'm considering selling all my GPUs and just buying one or two Z9 ASICs. Any tips? How long will zec or zclassic, or komodo, or zencash or btg last? How long will all this last? Noone knows. What i know is what is today and today there are lots of other coins and shitmain cant get them all. Everyone seems scared shitless. Why? I have nvidia rigs and have never, ever mined any of the equihash coins. Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Mike011 on May 04, 2018, 04:19:06 PM "one of the founders of ETHEREUM (VITALIK) he would like to go POS because he thinks GPU mining is bad for planet earth"
So he turned from visionary businessman to concerned environmentalist philosopher now that he is full with money. Money has incredible power to change people. Vitalik needs to be reminded how his Ethereum got where it is now and who made it happen and those are us - the miners. Title: Re: They're here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Mike011 on May 04, 2018, 04:27:11 PM Vitalik is essentially correct though. The amount of electricity used to mine cryptos is excessive and bad for the planet. That is a load of crap. Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: N2DCRYPT on May 04, 2018, 04:32:52 PM You miners are self centered. Miners need quality coins to mine. Coins do not need specific miners to get them. If you were a large gold nugget do you really care about how you were extracted. Selling your zcash over this would be a dumb financial move but your free to do whatever you want. Just be a man and don't cry when it moons and have it's moment Haha, you're pretty funny, at least with a gold nugget I could make the argument that the nugget exists, will continue to exist, and has something tangible to it on it's own. Any crypto means nothing, and has no point, without an underlying community and people that give it value. And every crypto I can think of today was built upon a network of home users, and those users continue to drive the meaning and value of every project. Miners, node operators, whatever, starts on a home user basis. It's this adoption which gives a project purpose and value. The only value is in the network of users. There are hundreds of identical projects in the space, there could be thousands of ZCash forks such that absolutely nothing about ZCash is distinguishable besides maybe the name. What gives it value then? Only its user base. Ever seen Bitmain build its own crypto? Any project ever started off being based on a Bitmain machine? No. Vultures swoop in and feed on animals they did not hunt; Bitmain harvests what it did not plant. And perhaps the miners that built up the network don't really have a say in the direction a project goes... perhaps each miner in his own little sphere of influence does not add up to the impact Bitmain brings. But I personally believe that miners (and by "miners" I mean home miners and small-time miners) provide a face to a project and visibility in there respective communities that Bitmain doesn't provide. You may be right, and I may financially lose out if ZCash "moons" for reasons I can't presently perceive, but I'll still abandon the project as a matter of principle. And I won't stay on a train that Bitmain is driving, I don't care what the destination is. Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: lunobird on May 04, 2018, 04:40:37 PM You miners are self centered. Miners need quality coins to mine. Coins do not need specific miners to get them. If you were a large gold nugget do you really care about how you were extracted. Selling your zcash over this would be a dumb financial move but your free to do whatever you want. Just be a man and don't cry when it moons and have it's moment Haha, you're pretty funny, at least with a gold nugget I could make the argument that the nugget exists, will continue to exist, and has something tangible to it on it's own. Any crypto means nothing, and has no point, without an underlying community and people that give it value. And every crypto I can think of today was built upon a network of home users, and those users continue to drive the meaning and value of every project. Miners, node operators, whatever, starts on a home user basis. It's this adoption which gives a project purpose and value. The only value is in the network of users. There are hundreds of identical projects in the space, there could be thousands of ZCash forks such that absolutely nothing about ZCash is distinguishable besides maybe the name. What gives it value then? Only its user base. Ever seen Bitmain build its own crypto? Any project ever started off being based on a Bitmain machine? No. Vultures swoop in and feed on animals they did not hunt; Bitmain harvests what it did not plant. And perhaps the miners that built up the network don't really have a say in the direction a project goes... perhaps each miner in his own little sphere of influence does not add up to the impact Bitmain brings. But I personally believe that miners (and by "miners" I mean home miners and small-time miners) provide a face to a project and visibility in there respective communities that Bitmain doesn't provide. You may be right, and I may financially lose out if ZCash "moons" for reasons I can't presently perceive, but I'll still abandon the project as a matter of principle. And I won't stay on a train that Bitmain is driving, I don't care what the destination is. Two word that will invalidate everything you said. XRP RIPPLE. 3rd largest market cap that needs no miners to win. Proof that miners are dirty scumbags bottom feeders of the earth and should be treated as such Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: norminorm on May 04, 2018, 04:49:57 PM To lunobird
Ripple only exists because of crypto community. we mine on different projects, trade coins and invest them. most of us live in counties where you cant change crypto for fiat - yet. without "us the crypto community" there is nothing. ripple was not created with support from banks. As far as I know it is not trading on NYSE or DJ but on Poloniex, Bitrex etc. So buck off - and respect for the MINERS PLEASE. Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Mike011 on May 04, 2018, 04:53:32 PM You miners are self centered. Miners need quality coins to mine. Coins do not need specific miners to get them. If you were a large gold nugget do you really care about how you were extracted. Selling your zcash over this would be a dumb financial move but your free to do whatever you want. Just be a man and don't cry when it moons and have it's moment Haha, you're pretty funny, at least with a gold nugget I could make the argument that the nugget exists, will continue to exist, and has something tangible to it on it's own. Any crypto means nothing, and has no point, without an underlying community and people that give it value. And every crypto I can think of today was built upon a network of home users, and those users continue to drive the meaning and value of every project. Miners, node operators, whatever, starts on a home user basis. It's this adoption which gives a project purpose and value. The only value is in the network of users. There are hundreds of identical projects in the space, there could be thousands of ZCash forks such that absolutely nothing about ZCash is distinguishable besides maybe the name. What gives it value then? Only its user base. Ever seen Bitmain build its own crypto? Any project ever started off being based on a Bitmain machine? No. Vultures swoop in and feed on animals they did not hunt; Bitmain harvests what it did not plant. And perhaps the miners that built up the network don't really have a say in the direction a project goes... perhaps each miner in his own little sphere of influence does not add up to the impact Bitmain brings. But I personally believe that miners (and by "miners" I mean home miners and small-time miners) provide a face to a project and visibility in there respective communities that Bitmain doesn't provide. You may be right, and I may financially lose out if ZCash "moons" for reasons I can't presently perceive, but I'll still abandon the project as a matter of principle. And I won't stay on a train that Bitmain is driving, I don't care what the destination is. Two word that will invalidate everything you said. XRP RIPPLE. 3rd largest market cap that needs no miners to win. Proof that miners are dirty scumbags bottom feeders of the earth and should be treated as such Really? A bank coin? Also if you have so much hate and despise for the miners wtf are you doing on this subforum? Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: ltcsprite on May 04, 2018, 05:33:28 PM i like the fact that ripple is also edible
https://i.imgur.com/EUNs14S.jpg xrp the snack of champions. :D Title: Re: They're here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: not.you on May 04, 2018, 05:41:00 PM Vitalik is essentially correct though. The amount of electricity used to mine cryptos is excessive and bad for the planet. That is a load of crap. I would agree with you if you were right. Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: HansHagberg on May 04, 2018, 08:56:04 PM Seems like a risky move to hand over control to a big chinese company for any blockchain project.
No blockchain really has any widespread utility yet and will probably not stand on it's own feet without the community support. Bitmain is not much of a community. Bitmains official business plan is to dominate mining in all aspects. They are the biggest mining operation themselves and they sell their hardware when they see fit. Often, this is when there is nothing more to mine (eg. Cryptonight fork) or they have newer hardware they want to start using themselves. This is not even a secret. Being in China, they are also under state control. Does any of that sound like being in the spirit of decentralized crypto currencies ? I would be surprised if any project would mess with the current infrastructure too much at this early stage of crypto. I'm sure they will dodge the ASICs for a while until they figure it doesn't matter. Today, any project forking away from ASICs get a lot of goodwill and free marketing so it should be very profitable. In addition, they come out as heroes Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: grchina on May 04, 2018, 11:35:12 PM Man you guys are so hilarious. Because at least this way we have some kind of decentralisation instead one company controling the market(look at bitcoin cash and whats happening with it)If there are like 10 companies making asics i wouldnt mind it but this way entire crypto will be in the hands of few greedy individualsAll of your care about coins being GPU minable is pure and simple greed. Try not to forget what crypto is for, its not just mining profits.... Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: not.you on May 05, 2018, 12:14:39 AM Man you guys are so hilarious. Because at least this way we have some kind of decentralisation instead one company controling the market(look at bitcoin cash and whats happening with it)If there are like 10 companies making asics i wouldnt mind it but this way entire crypto will be in the hands of few greedy individualsAll of your care about coins being GPU minable is pure and simple greed. Try not to forget what crypto is for, its not just mining profits.... bitmain caanan bw bitfury ibelink pinidea innosilicon haolong (may be innosilicon) baikal At least 8, maybe 9, who did I forget? Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: hawkfish007 on May 05, 2018, 12:19:07 AM Man you guys are so hilarious. Because at least this way we have some kind of decentralisation instead one company controling the market(look at bitcoin cash and whats happening with it)If there are like 10 companies making asics i wouldnt mind it but this way entire crypto will be in the hands of few greedy individualsAll of your care about coins being GPU minable is pure and simple greed. Try not to forget what crypto is for, its not just mining profits.... bitmain caanan bw bitfury ibelink pinidea innosilicon haolong (may be innosilicon) baikal At least 8, maybe 9, who did I forget? and countless farms with expertise in FPGA which can be programmed to mine anything even ASIC resistant XMR. Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: grchina on May 05, 2018, 12:23:40 AM Man you guys are so hilarious. Because at least this way we have some kind of decentralisation instead one company controling the market(look at bitcoin cash and whats happening with it)If there are like 10 companies making asics i wouldnt mind it but this way entire crypto will be in the hands of few greedy individualsAll of your care about coins being GPU minable is pure and simple greed. Try not to forget what crypto is for, its not just mining profits.... bitmain caanan bw bitfury ibelink pinidea innosilicon haolong (may be innosilicon) baikal At least 8, maybe 9, who did I forget? Title: Re: They're here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Mike011 on May 05, 2018, 12:40:26 AM Vitalik is essentially correct though. The amount of electricity used to mine cryptos is excessive and bad for the planet. That is a load of crap. I would agree with you if you were right. Sources? Facts? Links? Title: Re: They're here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: not.you on May 05, 2018, 12:52:44 AM Vitalik is essentially correct though. The amount of electricity used to mine cryptos is excessive and bad for the planet. That is a load of crap. I would agree with you if you were right. Sources? Facts? Links? Yes please do provide those to support your weak ass contention that my statement was "a load of crap". I'm glad we can agree that your opinionated assertion, devoid of support is without merit. Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Riptide_NVN on May 05, 2018, 04:00:08 AM .2% of global power use. Buncha paranoid nonsense.
Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Marvell2 on May 05, 2018, 04:06:36 AM .2% of global power use. Buncha paranoid nonsense. lol. all the databases and servers used by financial compaines , internet companies like facebook ebay amazondwarf the hell out of crypto mining power use , its fake news Title: Re: They're here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Mike011 on May 05, 2018, 10:50:00 AM Vitalik is essentially correct though. The amount of electricity used to mine cryptos is excessive and bad for the planet. That is a load of crap. I would agree with you if you were right. Sources? Facts? Links? Yes please do provide those to support your weak ass contention that my statement was "a load of crap". I'm glad we can agree that your opinionated assertion, devoid of support is without merit. Without any backing, it is a load of crap. So, you are assuming, if not - provide proof. Not just for me, for the entire community that reads this, which is also in disbelief. Considering your status on this forum, you should help the community - enlighten us, if it is more pleasing to your stellar persona. Title: Re: They're here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: not.you on May 05, 2018, 12:51:19 PM Vitalik is essentially correct though. The amount of electricity used to mine cryptos is excessive and bad for the planet. That is a load of crap. I would agree with you if you were right. Sources? Facts? Links? Yes please do provide those to support your weak ass contention that my statement was "a load of crap". I'm glad we can agree that your opinionated assertion, devoid of support is without merit. Without any backing, it is a load of crap. So, you are assuming, if not - provide proof. Not just for me, for the entire community that reads this, which is also in disbelief. Considering your status on this forum, you should help the community - enlighten us, if it is more pleasing to your stellar persona. If you are unaware of human caused climate change at this point you are either willfully ignorant or a moron. In either case you get the ignore button. Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: norminorm on May 05, 2018, 01:01:56 PM Guys we need a separate forum only for us - GPU miners.
Place where we could talk about our problems, where software makers can advertise GPU mining software, where honest GPU-pro coins developers could ask for our mining support. What sucks it is the fact that This forum Altcoins mining was ours - GPU miners, Miners developers, pool operators , new coin developers etc But ever since ASIC aka SHITMAN come in, we help pushing and growing coins and they take over when it is profitable - nice gimmick. For all the ASIC and ASIC supported coins you could go and F... Y... selfs. START YOUR OWN PROJECTS To all ASIC support coins developers - Go and ask bitman to support your mining. Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: norminorm on May 05, 2018, 01:15:57 PM "If you are unaware of human caused climate change at this point you are either willfully ignorant or a moron. In either case you get the ignore button."
Hey buddy did you ever go to China because i did. that is where the fight to save the planet suppose to start. and not by me closing down my rigs. Any think you do, drive less, use less electricity is f... all to the pollution that is there. Billion dollars companies don't care and YOU will save the planet. As for Vitalik - I will talk smart too if I will have his money. BTW news to him - RAVEN is coming and it has a support of the community it it will be new and better coin then ETH. Vitalik is happy now because he does not need you he has Banking friends now. ALL OF YOU FULL and LEGENDARY MEMBERS - WAKE UP. Title: Re: They're here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: Mike011 on May 05, 2018, 01:30:43 PM Vitalik is essentially correct though. The amount of electricity used to mine cryptos is excessive and bad for the planet. That is a load of crap. To call someone names, ignore him, without any proof whatsoever for whar you claim is kinda wiggling out of a sticky situation. You can wiggle all you want, ignore entire forum if you want, but it does not change the fact that what you have said is utter load of cock and bull. I would agree with you if you were right. Sources? Facts? Links? Yes please do provide those to support your weak ass contention that my statement was "a load of crap". I'm glad we can agree that your opinionated assertion, devoid of support is without merit. Without any backing, it is a load of crap. So, you are assuming, if not - provide proof. Not just for me, for the entire community that reads this, which is also in disbelief. Considering your status on this forum, you should help the community - enlighten us, if it is more pleasing to your stellar persona. If you are unaware of human caused climate change at this point you are either willfully ignorant or a moron. In either case you get the ignore button. to call people names that disagree with you makes me wonder how someone as immature as you have a such high status on this forum. whatever the case, you have no proof whatsoever other then your vague sentiment or concern about global pollution. mining is a drop in the ocean and you as well as anyone else should stop exeggarating that shit. and since you have nothing solid to back your claims, you sir are talking shit. also you are second person in two days that disapproves mining and does not belong on mining subforum. Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: arielbit on May 05, 2018, 01:44:28 PM "If you are unaware of human caused climate change at this point you are either willfully ignorant or a moron. In either case you get the ignore button." Hey buddy did you ever go to China because i did. that is where the fight to save the planet suppose to start. and not by me closing down my rigs. Any think you do, drive less, use less electricity is f... all to the pollution that is there. Billion dollars companies don't care and YOU will save the planet. As for Vitalik - I will talk smart too if I will have his money. BTW news to him - RAVEN is coming and it has a support of the community it it will be new and better coin then ETH. Vitalik is happy now because he does not need you he has Banking friends now. ALL OF YOU FULL and LEGENDARY MEMBERS - WAKE UP. saving the planet.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c) "the planet is fine, the people are fucked" here is a music for you.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FFgVayrWjs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FFgVayrWjs) Title: Re: There here, and what now with Zcash ? Post by: norminorm on May 05, 2018, 01:58:50 PM Love the guy, George Carlin watch all of this guy videos. This guy videos should be played in schools for the kids to understand the world problems, make them think freely and not only according to the Jesuits teaching that is all over the world and Agenda 21. You see us in crypto world we are smart. we look at the system with different view, because we understand what banking do to world -MODERN AGE SLAVERY. Endebt people and make them work for you for the rest of theirs lives. |
