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Title: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: ShadowOfHarbringer on February 16, 2011, 01:30:46 PM USA gov censorship in action again, blocking innocent domains:
http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-shuts-down-84000-websites-by-mistake-110216/ Quote The US Government has yet again shuttered several domain names this week. The Department of Justice and Homeland Security’s ICE office proudly announced that they had seized domains related to counterfeit goods and child pornography. What they failed to mention, however, is that one of the targeted domains belongs to a free DNS provider, and that 84,000 websites were wrongfully accused of links to child pornography crimes. Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: Nefario on February 16, 2011, 02:22:38 PM Bad news.
Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: kiba on February 16, 2011, 02:25:16 PM They're getting negative attention. WE NEED MOAR PRESSURE!
Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: Timo Y on February 16, 2011, 02:35:25 PM DNS blocking is still relatively harmless. Nobody is forced to use the "official" DNS.
When they start blocking IP addresses and ports, however, then it will start to become really scary. Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: ShadowOfHarbringer on February 16, 2011, 06:33:15 PM When they start blocking IP addresses and ports, however, then it will start to become really scary. They can't block IP addresses outside of their jurisdiction. DNS is the only part left of the internet that is not decentralized. They are using this weakness. Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: ribuck on February 16, 2011, 08:05:55 PM DNS is the only part left of the internet that is not decentralized. .com is not controlled by the US government, but .org is Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: imanikin on February 16, 2011, 08:07:57 PM Help is on the way: http://dot-p2p.org/index.php?title=Main_Page (http://dot-p2p.org/index.php?title=Main_Page) Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: ShadowOfHarbringer on February 16, 2011, 08:12:16 PM Help is on the way: http://dot-p2p.org/index.php?title=Main_Page (http://dot-p2p.org/index.php?title=Main_Page) Nothing new, people are working on this forum on Bitcoin - based implementation of DNS: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1790.0 Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: caveden on February 16, 2011, 09:31:36 PM They can't block IP addresses outside of their jurisdiction. They can block IPs outside of their jurisdiction for those who live inside their jurisdiction, just like the Great Firewall. Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: caveden on February 16, 2011, 09:33:12 PM .com is not controlled by the US government, but .org is Really? I thought both were. Under which jurisdiction are .com domains then? Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: Vasiliev on February 16, 2011, 09:40:29 PM .com and .net are both VeriSign, and the TLDs that the USGov seizes sites on. .org is operated by the Public Interest Registry.
Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: caveden on February 16, 2011, 09:46:49 PM Ok, that means they cannot easily block just like they did with these 84.000 domains... but VerySign itself is under US jurisdiction, isn't it?
Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: Vasiliev on February 16, 2011, 09:49:22 PM American company.
The seized FreeDNS domain was moooo.com (or similar, forget # of o) Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: ribuck on February 16, 2011, 10:41:35 PM .com is not controlled by the US government, but .org is Really? I thought both were. Under which jurisdiction are .com domains then? The source for my comment was the summary at the top of the following story, but maybe it's wrong: "US Dept. of Justice, ICE Still Seizing Domains" (http://slashdot.org/story/11/02/02/009214/US-Dept-of-Justice-ICE-Still-Seizing-Domains) Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: Anonymous on February 16, 2011, 11:17:40 PM .fuu
Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: theymos on February 17, 2011, 12:51:16 AM ICANN itself is located in the US, as is Verisign (.com, .net) and PIR (.org).
I think ICANN will try to do something about this eventually. Once countries on the Governmental Advisory Committee become angry/jealous over the US's ability to take down random websites, ICANN will need to act. Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: caveden on February 17, 2011, 08:25:58 AM I just hope it doesn't act given all other countries the same power...
Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: Nefario on February 17, 2011, 08:28:15 AM What is stopping people inventing their own subdomain, like .foo for example?
Title: Re: US Government censors the web - 84.000 domains blocked this time Post by: caveden on February 17, 2011, 08:56:02 AM It's ICANN who controls the root level domains, as far as I know. So, on the current architecture, only them could attribute .foo to some domain name authority.
Now, nothing prevents people to invent other domain name systems, that are not under ICANN control, like the .p2p initiative. But that would only work after many DNS servers (or browsers) learn how to use these new DNS systems. That could lead to some name conflicts, if more than one system define the same root level and attribute it to different authorities. |