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Title: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: rampa on August 08, 2011, 12:44:51 AM https://www.mybitcoin.com/accounting.txt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sunday, August 7th, 2011 MYBITCOIN ASSETS AND LIABILITIES DISCLOSURE Liabilities (Bitcoin) Assets (Bitcoin) Percentage ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 154,406.34272079 75,666.76066691 49% -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MBC v1.0 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOPynGAAoJEJ+5g06lAnqF4dsH/1nl7hcurhpaIbAc64Dnud0H lDyNPKqhGts0cNzmoXltivxPrQYTNVFLbr0My0Cm1kqEHdf3LlybeBSv3MTGToyR N0niWx2GWzCbxXnRg+EG8o/iuElIXz/mmzAIUp6K9ReoqLTrYqUGkCSDf5YxDl/k MpwHJMX7c1pR+YjfepaXMAQrKv54I1U2BQ5E0sf+L6TNdLfGukxKCnlW87D/+Th7 pnwIUuDvgbsGn9eb8IvAbrP/Mdq+rPD9nDgBnCS/9/DVKj4Onhuowb/zlxLXvZVX phwi9QHl3bupFTeCqUjrEEMgDfxE2kGGBqSAO7d3GP5Derq6hhuX8oj9I3MwfdY= =iLmO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- will the people get back 49% of his BTC? Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: jackjack on August 08, 2011, 12:47:06 AM If the guy is honest, yes
So, no Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: laanwj on August 08, 2011, 12:47:55 AM so roughly 75000 coins were stolen.. wow, explains a lot
Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: Littleshop on August 08, 2011, 12:49:17 AM Wow. 75000 BTC loss times about $8 each = about $600000
Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: Trader Steve on August 08, 2011, 12:52:34 AM A 51% loss is better than a 100% loss but somebody's got some " esplainin' " to do.
Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: rampa on August 08, 2011, 12:52:56 AM i think this day was $13. so, now undestood why today is 8....
Wow. 75000 BTC loss times about $8 each = about $600000 Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: bitstarter on August 08, 2011, 12:55:16 AM https://www.mybitcoin.com/accounting.txt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sunday, August 7th, 2011 MYBITCOIN ASSETS AND LIABILITIES DISCLOSURE Liabilities (Bitcoin) Assets (Bitcoin) Percentage ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 154,406.34272079 75,666.76066691 49% -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MBC v1.0 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOPynGAAoJEJ+5g06lAnqF4dsH/1nl7hcurhpaIbAc64Dnud0H lDyNPKqhGts0cNzmoXltivxPrQYTNVFLbr0My0Cm1kqEHdf3LlybeBSv3MTGToyR N0niWx2GWzCbxXnRg+EG8o/iuElIXz/mmzAIUp6K9ReoqLTrYqUGkCSDf5YxDl/k MpwHJMX7c1pR+YjfepaXMAQrKv54I1U2BQ5E0sf+L6TNdLfGukxKCnlW87D/+Th7 pnwIUuDvgbsGn9eb8IvAbrP/Mdq+rPD9nDgBnCS/9/DVKj4Onhuowb/zlxLXvZVX phwi9QHl3bupFTeCqUjrEEMgDfxE2kGGBqSAO7d3GP5Derq6hhuX8oj9I3MwfdY= =iLmO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- will the people get back 49% of his BTC? I don't see it posted on mybitcoin.com ? Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: edd on August 08, 2011, 12:56:05 AM https://www.mybitcoin.com/accounting.txt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sunday, August 7th, 2011 MYBITCOIN ASSETS AND LIABILITIES DISCLOSURE Liabilities (Bitcoin) Assets (Bitcoin) Percentage ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 154,406.34272079 75,666.76066691 49% -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MBC v1.0 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOPynGAAoJEJ+5g06lAnqF4dsH/1nl7hcurhpaIbAc64Dnud0H lDyNPKqhGts0cNzmoXltivxPrQYTNVFLbr0My0Cm1kqEHdf3LlybeBSv3MTGToyR N0niWx2GWzCbxXnRg+EG8o/iuElIXz/mmzAIUp6K9ReoqLTrYqUGkCSDf5YxDl/k MpwHJMX7c1pR+YjfepaXMAQrKv54I1U2BQ5E0sf+L6TNdLfGukxKCnlW87D/+Th7 pnwIUuDvgbsGn9eb8IvAbrP/Mdq+rPD9nDgBnCS/9/DVKj4Onhuowb/zlxLXvZVX phwi9QHl3bupFTeCqUjrEEMgDfxE2kGGBqSAO7d3GP5Derq6hhuX8oj9I3MwfdY= =iLmO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- will the people get back 49% of his BTC? I don't see it posted on mybitcoin.com ? https://www.mybitcoin.com/accounting.txt Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: rampa on August 08, 2011, 12:58:33 AM I don't see it posted on mybitcoin.com ? the first link in the homepage. Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: stick_theman on August 08, 2011, 01:00:25 AM Rampa, how did you get the link up so quickly? Do you automatically HTTPS scan the website? l33t!!
Bullish for Bitcoins. Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: FXRiot on August 08, 2011, 01:11:42 AM What's more silly, having a wallet online? Or starting a wallet website?
Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: ampirebus on August 08, 2011, 01:16:50 AM What's more silly, having a wallet online? Or starting a wallet website? having a wallet online where the domain is registered to PO Box 2345 Kitts And Nevis Carribbean... even if what hes saying now was true... he'd have to be the nicest "shady" guy on the planet... you dont register to the carribeans by PO box as your business listing and no other information other than misleading information ... everything about it screams scam. Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: Herodes on August 08, 2011, 01:19:28 AM 75K bitcoins stolen? That's horrible. If we say that we sell them at an average price of 7, that's almost a half million USD (525000 USD).
So do you really believe that some hacker stole these coins? Or is it an insider job? Huh.. devasting actually. How could we prevent this in the future? Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: repentance on August 08, 2011, 01:25:38 AM 75K bitcoins stolen? That's horrible. If we say that we sell them at an average price of 7, that's almost a half million USD (525000 USD). So do you really believe that some hacker stole these coins? Or is it an insider job? Huh.. devasting actually. How could we prevent this in the future? It's definitely going to suck for anyone who bought at a high price -they'll now have half as many Bitcoins and those they've got left are worth a whole lot less. Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: Bitcoin Swami on August 08, 2011, 01:27:42 AM Well hopefully they are sold already. Maybe that 25k sell yesterday was the last of em. This is better news than not getting anything back. I hope people will have learned their lesson.
Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: amincd on August 08, 2011, 01:27:52 AM The price of bitcoin has averaged over $13 over the last two months, so it's more like over a million dollars of bitcoin that people have lost.
Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: rampa on August 08, 2011, 01:37:04 AM Rampa, how did you get the link up so quickly? Do you automatically HTTPS scan the website? l33t!! Bullish for Bitcoins. yes. i have it monitored :-) only lost 5BTC there. but are MY 5BTC.. :-) Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: fcmatt on August 08, 2011, 01:37:38 AM Just how exactly does a person sell that many BTC at an exchange and manage to transfer out all the cash without
hitting limits or setting off red alarms of the exchange owners? Plus what kind of hacker would go out and try to sell in person for 50K+ amounts defeating the anonymous part of the hack? You would end up meeting several people who could very well figure out where they came from if your story is not amazingly prepared. I bet early adopters know each other pretty well.. as in a tight knit group. So many questions surrounding all of this and I have a feeling no real answers will ever come forth from the folks who have inside knowledge or the ability to offer answers due to positioning. Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: elggawf on August 08, 2011, 01:45:52 AM Bullish for Bitcoins. Are you uhh.. "special"? Bitcoin's entire market is based around trust of the people you interact with, and one of the biggest e-wallets allegedly gets hosed for 51% of their holdings - at least 25k of that belongs to one of Bitcoin's most vocal cheerleaders. This is hot on the heels of a string of bad news. On what fucking planet could this possibly be bullish? You can't even claim like Bitomat deleting 17k BTC that it raises the value of the others, because these coins were allegedly hacked and so are still in circulation. Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: Departure on August 08, 2011, 02:10:40 AM this is bullshit according to his first press release concerning the down time, he stated that most of the wallets was offline, Meaning that over 50% of the wallets where offline and then he states that 1 user was trickling out bitcoins meaning there is no way he could have stolen 75000btc in 2 days, This calculation does not add up to what he first wrote on 4th August. I see a scam happening here and im not happy about it, He is lieing if his first press release was legitimate.
Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: geek-trader on August 08, 2011, 02:14:33 AM Holy crap.
MyBitcoin help 154,000 BTC? They were a much bigger player than I thought. I never even considered using them, so I guess I thought they were not so popular. Wow was I wrong. Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: Maged on August 08, 2011, 02:23:12 AM Dear god. This is GENIUS! You know that people are watching the Bitcoins they sent to mybitcoin, so to safely spend them, you give half of them back so it's impossible to know which withdraws are legit and which were stolen.
Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: oOoOo on August 08, 2011, 02:29:49 AM Dear god. This is GENIUS! You know that people are watching the Bitcoins they sent to mybitcoin, so to safely spend them, you give half of them back so it's impossible to know which withdraws are legit and which were stolen. HAHAHA!! Great! But why half? They could just give back 10% or so, it would have the same effect??!?. Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: Maged on August 08, 2011, 02:32:31 AM Dear god. This is GENIUS! You know that people are watching the Bitcoins they sent to mybitcoin, so to safely spend them, you give half of them back so it's impossible to know which withdraws are legit and which were stolen. HAHAHA!! Great! But why half? They could just give back 10% or so, it would have the same effect??!?. Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: stick_theman on August 08, 2011, 02:39:20 AM Bullish for Bitcoins. Are you uhh.. "special"? Dood, please sense sarcasm. I'm sure everything who's using bitcoins should be smart enough to understand that. We've been through tidal waves one after another, just want to say something "uplifting". Chiill. Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: Piper67 on August 08, 2011, 02:42:38 AM Dear god. This is GENIUS! You know that people are watching the Bitcoins they sent to mybitcoin, so to safely spend them, you give half of them back so it's impossible to know which withdraws are legit and which were stolen. HAHAHA!! Great! But why half? They could just give back 10% or so, it would have the same effect??!?. And don't forget that if he played his cards right, he may have a started with 75k BTC, but after causing the wild swings in the market over the last couple days he could easily have doubled that. Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 08, 2011, 03:41:32 AM I smell a rat!
http://www.libertystickers.com/static/images/productimage-picture-i-smell-a-rat-patrick-henry-sh-453.gif Quote It appears to be human error combined with a misunderstanding of how Bitcoin secures transactions into the next block. Our programmer was under the assumption that one block was good enough to secure a transaction. Two years ago when the software was written, this single confirm myth was a popular belief. (I'm going to state my case with words and pictures, working somewhat backwards from the quote above) Two years ago when this building was build, my builder told me that this lock (or block) would be secure enough to thwart off any B&E. http://www.antique-locks.com/attachments/miscellaneous-question-answer-forum/3126d1272185454t-rim-lock-1820-1840-old-door-lock-serie-7-005.jpg But we know that this single confirm myth now rings hollow. It has now been shown to me by other builders that this is the best door lock on the open market (although still not 100% secure): http://www.geekologie.com/2008/04/04/defendius-door-lock.jpg It appears to be human error combined with a misunderstanding of how buildings should be secure, especially ones built for the sole purpose of storing other people's valuables. Next time we'll have it most secure with this building: http://www.mostinterestingfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/fort-knox.jpg It's because of this lock choice that an unknown thief has been entering the building for the past several days taking your valuables that you entrusted me with. After careful inventory (proving that I've been very busy, thereby not having any time to tell you all this until now), I only have about half of everybody's valuable stuff left. I will be returning all the valuables to their rightful owners, but this will take time. BTW, I'm well aware that during all this time, the stuff you will be getting back will only be worth half its value compared with the time you first entrusted me with it. Lucky this wasn't a total lost. The following is what I believe really happened (let me know if you agree): The owner and the builder are in cahoots with each other, or they are the same person. A strong enough lock was put in place to show that there was a lock. That lock was unlocked daily to take out a few valuables at a time. Afterwards, the site goes into lock down, allowing time to fence the goods. The owner/thief announces what happened by providing a statement riddled with vagueness. An offer to return half the valuables is proposed, thereby allowing him to keep half at about full value, while returning the other half at half value, due to the market. Here's a better example: I own a storage facility with several storage units. It's surrounded by a fence with a gate having a chain and lock. There is a camera mounted on a pole, pointed towards the entrance gate. The only people with keys to the gate are the storage unit renters and me, the owner. No one is allowed after hours to enter the facility. But I do! For several nights in a roll, I'm taking stuff out of each unit, for I have a way of hacking each and every lock on all the units. I leave for several days afterwards to fence the loot. Now, this being RL, cops are called in, by me, for I realize that some of my stuff is stolen from one of my personal units. Upon further investigation, every other unit renter had stuff stolen. The detective sees the camera and wants it for his investigation. I climb the pole, get the camera, and give it to the detective. This being a sharp detective, asks for the recording devise that has the footage taken with the camera. He's not that shocked when I inform him that I don't have a recording devise. The camera is just a decoy to ward off any B&E's. I'm not even sure if the camera functions properly, but it sure the hell was doing a good job until this incident. The detective dust for fingerprints, but won't find any of mine for I wore gloves. He may find my DNA in each and every unit because I have been in each and every unit. In fact, he may even find my fingerprints in some of the units because prior to him being called, I was in those units with the victim renters, making sure I touched as much stuff as possible in front of them. I'm not a computer security geek, but I can smell a rat. To make sure that this is a possible scenario, I asked my nephew to read the above for his take, because he is a computer geek. After reading it, his exact words were, "Exactly!" We discussed (well, mostly he spoke) about the ins and outs of computer criminals and how they think, act, operate, etc. He even stated that he liked my storage facility idea, and would use it if he had a criminal mind. I asked him if there is anything else to add to this, and he said no and that it was basically self explanatory. He then went back to playing his Xbox 360. I'm most certain that his comment was sincere, as I'm most certain he wanted to get back to playing his stupid game, hence not offering up any type of edit. Come to think of it, he's been acting pretty suspicious ever since this mybitcoin.com incident arose. Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: repentance on August 08, 2011, 04:30:14 AM Dear god. This is GENIUS! You know that people are watching the Bitcoins they sent to mybitcoin, so to safely spend them, you give half of them back so it's impossible to know which withdraws are legit and which were stolen. Plus nobody's going to push for official auditing and liquidation of the LLC because they're scared that the fees associated with going that route would reduce the eventual payout percentage as well as delay the process. It's very clever if you can have the people you owe being against your company being put under formal scrutiny. Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: Meatpile on August 08, 2011, 05:00:57 AM Man this is really smart shit going on . Filthy evil shit, but smart nonetheless.
Clearly this guy deserves some of that vigilante justice kicking in his door some night. But who even knows his real name? Title: Re: just posted on mybitcoin.com Post by: BitcoinPorn on August 08, 2011, 05:05:59 AM His next trick. Is to somehow do something to bring the value of Bitcoin itself back up to make his booty worth that much more, thus spurring heavy market activity. Or that is just what I want to happen lol.
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