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Title: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on May 05, 2018, 10:08:59 PM
http://i66.tinypic.com/2ed4dxt.jpg

So, some newbies go to bitcoin.com and see BTC and BCH plastered all over the website.

In some places on the bitcoin.com website the words "Bitcoin" and letters "BCH" are conflated, in other places they are not. In some places mentions specific to "Bitcoin" are being made and in other places "Bitcoin" and "BCH" are mentioned as one and the same. In other places "Bitcoin" and "BTC" are used.

Stands to reason newbies wanting to learn about Bitcoin will go to bitcoin.org or bitcoin.com and those wanting to learn about Bitcoin Cash will go to bitcoincash.org

How are newbies supposed to navigate the disaster created by Bitcoin Cash team?


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Slark on May 05, 2018, 10:14:15 PM
Bitcoin was never easy concept to grasp - if you wanted to learn a bit more than average Joe then it always required a certain amount of time and effort.
With Bitcoin cash and other forks of bitcoin we simply reached the next level of confusion  - but do we really can do something about it?
The only way for people to grasp the situation is to read and learn, google for Bitcoin-related terms and concepts, visit forums, and build up their own opinion.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Chaki on May 05, 2018, 10:14:45 PM
well team project or organizer have there own way of letting someone to learn more about them as they want to earn more investor inside their group and one is to create a sole site indicating everything they want to learn about BCH


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Tactical Genius on May 05, 2018, 10:32:45 PM
As it stands now,the best for any newbie is appropriate due diligence.To jump into cryptos without appropriate research is something newbies should avoid.BCH has created a lot of confusion but some blame must be laid on the newbies too.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: wolfracer on May 05, 2018, 10:33:09 PM
For that the newbies like me who are interested in this ecosystem are here, reading publications and comments that help us to avoid and learn from mistakes that at some time previous newbies committed and clear up doubts that arise every time we dive deeper and deeper into this world


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: davison2 on May 05, 2018, 10:45:12 PM
Quite frankly i'm really having a stress-time getting my head around those terms... thank God it came up now because it just propelled me to go dig more and get it right before i fall a victim.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: justine11 on May 05, 2018, 10:57:52 PM
well the website is trying to lure newbies to invest in shitcoin bitcoin cash by not putting the original  abbreviation of bitcoin the website put BCH instead of BTC (very cheap tactic) since the website owner is bitcoin cash supporter. i suggest that to all newbies research very carefully read the bitcoin wiki and visit the one and only bitcoin's website which is bitcoin.org


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on May 05, 2018, 10:59:10 PM
Bitcoin was never easy concept to grasp - if you wanted to learn a bit more than average Joe then it always required a certain amount of time and effort.
With Bitcoin cash and other forks of bitcoin we simply reached the next level of confusion  - but do we really can do something about it?
The only way for people to grasp the situation is to read and learn, google for Bitcoin-related terms and concepts, visit forums, and build up their own opinion.

I agree, proper research will reduce the number of transactions leading to lost coins and wallet/chain confusions. Bitcoin cash on their website are hardly helping the situation by the confusion they are creating.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: ladydark on May 05, 2018, 11:20:15 PM
Unfortunately since bitcoin is a decentralised currency,no action could be taken against bitcoin.com.Instead we should create awareness among the bitcoin community so that newbies would not get scammed.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on May 05, 2018, 11:35:55 PM
As it stands now,the best for any newbie is appropriate due diligence.To jump into cryptos without appropriate research is something newbies should avoid.BCH has created a lot of confusion but some blame must be laid on the newbies too.

What you say is true. As much as it hurts to say it but newbies are going to have these teething problems because of Bitcoin Cash confusion on the bitcoin.com website. Once upon a time many people ended up with "zombie" wallets because they mined bitcoins and well, lost the hard drives, reformatted them or lost their encryption passwords.

Learning process is one thing but navigating around the Bitcoin Cash farce claiming it is the real Bitcoin, well that is pathetic propoganda which does not help newbies.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: cryp24x on May 06, 2018, 02:04:34 AM
Being a newbie, you are responsible for yourself. No one should be blamed. If you want to learn thoroughly about Bitcoin, Do some research. Bitcoin info is almost everywhere. But what we should do as members are to help to spread awareness. For a simple and little way, we can help them understand the basics of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: zhopas on May 06, 2018, 02:53:30 AM
As a newbie you should know first the rules and regulations here in bitcoin world for you to be responsible on the things that you are going to do. Search for some informations that you're curious about then it makes you aware and understand the simple up to the hardest information about bitcoin. And aside from that you should be wise on the things that you are facing because in just one click everything might change and maybe ended up losing it.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: pooya87 on May 06, 2018, 03:08:57 AM
some people thought that the attack against bitcoin and all the attempts to take it over has ended when the "big blockers" forked off and went their own way. then all the mining attacks with their EDA started against bitcoin. we defeated that but the media attacks have never stopped. the attempts to take over is still strong and ongoing. what Roger Ver is doing on bitcoin.com is  the clear example of it. they are still trying to take over and we need to fight back.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: CryptoBry on May 06, 2018, 04:23:29 AM


There is now a revival of the bad war between people in the Bitcoin side and those in the Bitcoin Cash corner. All of these things are not helping as we are promoting the adoption of cryptocurrency by as many people as possible. This is the problem when we let greed and selfishness dominate a young industry such as we are in...some people and players are so willing to destroy what they perceived to be hindrance to the many plans they have in mind. Hopefully, it will be the market that will decide which side should eventually win..though there will always be collateral in any kind of war.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on May 06, 2018, 11:43:37 AM
Quite frankly i'm really having a stress-time getting my head around those terms... thank God it came up now because it just propelled me to go dig more and get it right before i fall a victim.

And that is the key now, because of the cloud of confusion created by Ver and other Bitcoin Cash whales the only way you and others new to Bitcoin can protect yourselves is to be super vigilant and always take note to avoid the bitcoin.com website when searching for information about Bitcoin. It is better stick with bitcoin.org and forums such as this instead.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: eaLiTy on May 06, 2018, 02:23:01 PM
some people thought that the attack against bitcoin and all the attempts to take it over has ended when the "big blockers" forked off and went their own way. then all the mining attacks with their EDA started against bitcoin. we defeated that but the media attacks have never stopped. the attempts to take over is still strong and ongoing. what Roger Ver is doing on bitcoin.com is  the clear example of it. they are still trying to take over and we need to fight back.
How do you propose to fight back, the only thing you can do is to create awareness about the entire market to new users and how to differentiate different coins, people will be confused looking into this market when they see thousand of coins in the first place, someone has to create a newbie guide so that everyone could follow and understand the market, until then these sort of confusion will exist and there is nothing you could do.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: jseverson on May 06, 2018, 02:28:40 PM
Let's not forget that there's also r/btc which always has large doses of Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin propaganda. It's very easy to stumble into it by mistake and it's going to be confusing for newbies why a supposed Bitcoin subreddit's top posts are tearing Bitcoin a new one. It also opens them up for anchoring bias.

Anyway, I thought they already corrected the BCH = Bitcoin instances in the site because of the lawsuit? If someone made a paper wallet here and sent BTC to it because it was claimed to be a Bitcoin wallet, they may get another problem in their hands.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on May 06, 2018, 03:21:35 PM
well the website is trying to lure newbies to invest in shitcoin bitcoin cash by not putting the original  abbreviation of bitcoin the website put BCH instead of BTC (very cheap tactic) since the website owner is bitcoin cash supporter. i suggest that to all newbies research very carefully read the bitcoin wiki and visit the one and only bitcoin's website which is bitcoin.org

I think your advice is good, thank you. The issue of cheap tactics you refer to will affect newbies far more than anyone else and I feel sorry for them.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: cocktail111 on May 08, 2018, 05:08:03 PM
There are many paid promotions of icos going on. Without researching, it is not advised to invest anywhere. You should invest only the amount you would afford to lose. Just go through the project before having your investment in, buy the hype and sell the news. Crypto is a volatile market and you should assure yourself that you're investing in a good project. Have your own strategy. Looks good to invest in bitcoin too.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Suprex125 on May 08, 2018, 05:15:52 PM
Bitcoin cash is a clone of Bitcoin and is less expensive than bitcoin.BTC has a block size of 2 MB with Segwit while BCH has no segwit implementation and has a huge blocksize of 8 MB. BCH is faster in terms of transaction.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: amishmanish on May 08, 2018, 05:20:34 PM
Any newbie that searches for bitcoin and ends up at bitcoin.com is screwed for good. They will inevitably end up buying BCash. Right now, we have just undergone an explosion phase in december. Lot of people who joined back then are pretty much aware of the differences and the Roger Ver style shitty marketing tactics.

What these conmen are banking on is that another wave of newbies will  get confused enough to not know the difference and end up buying BCash in huge amounts. I suppose they have some target price that they aim to reach so that they can make it more profitable for miners than bitcoin, even if for a small while..

This is when they hope that hashing power will switch. It's a plan they are willing to execute by hook or by crook. All the more reason for the real bitcoin community to be ever vigilant and keep telling people that BCH being peddled by bitcoin.com is actually BCash backed by people like Ver who like to boast "I am a self made millionaire and i will not be insulted" and then go red in the face while rage quitting.

That is frankly nothing like what bitcoin is supposed to be


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Hopeful2017 on May 08, 2018, 05:23:34 PM
Learning the bitcoin concept is never an easy tasks. It has really complicated concepts especially so that their are a lot of bitcoin websites and exchanges available now. If one team wants to attract more investors or new to bitcoin world, they must present bitcoin in the easiest way to understand as much as possible.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on May 08, 2018, 07:13:50 PM
Bitcoin cash is a clone of Bitcoin and is less expensive than bitcoin.BTC has a block size of 2 MB with Segwit while BCH has no segwit implementation and has a huge blocksize of 8 MB. BCH is faster in terms of transaction.

This thread is about the problems crypto newbies face when visiting bitcoin.com website when Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, BTC and BCH are plastered all over it without being clear within which context those names or abbreviations are used. The block size you mentioned is a debate for another thread.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2ed4dxt.jpg


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Dudeperfect on May 09, 2018, 05:32:06 PM
Yes, I have a friend who actually ended up in buying Bitcoin cash while he was willing to buy Bitcoin. This is a serious matter that created confusion among the newbies while dealing with Bitcoin. However, since most of the newbies use web wallets, some web wallet service providers notify users on each and every step that they are dealing in Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Vannie12 on May 09, 2018, 05:42:58 PM
Well as a suggestion, Do not buy until you are not familiar with something that is very costly.
The thing is people tend to jump in anything that would tell them that they will be getting bucks from it.
Lack of knowledge will definitely lead you to that kind of circumstances and I think he who have lost by being confused is liable for his own mistakes for he did not researched before buying.
In this industry, you have to do your own research. Such forums like Btctalk is just a place where you can find further perspective about news and facts.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: thorvald on May 09, 2018, 05:53:59 PM
Looks like Roger Ver is still up to his antics. I can't believe he's doing it this way though. It seems to only get in the way of Bitcoin education and make it more difficult and dangerous for newbies.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on May 09, 2018, 09:59:17 PM
Yes, I have a friend who actually ended up in buying Bitcoin cash while he was willing to buy Bitcoin. This is a serious matter that created confusion among the newbies while dealing with Bitcoin. However, since most of the newbies use web wallets, some web wallet service providers notify users on each and every step that they are dealing in Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash.

Sorry to hear about your friend getting confused by the whole Bitcoin/BTC and BCH/Bcash/Bitcoin Cash issue. I hope in the near future things will get better and clearer on bitcoin.com and other places.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: richardsNY on May 09, 2018, 10:40:17 PM
Looks like Roger Ver is still up to his antics. I can't believe he's doing it this way though. It seems to only get in the way of Bitcoin education and make it more difficult and dangerous for newbies.

Roger Ver has lost all his credits already, so whatever he ends up doing from this point, regardless of how severe his actions are, won't change anything in that regard. If he suddenly changes his approach of 'marketing' BCH at cost of Bitcoin, he feels like he lost the battle he put so much effort in, and that with his level of engagement and emotional weaknesses just isn't going to happen. He is beyond any stage of becoming normal again -- this poisonous being needs to seek mental help. It's pathetic how he singlehandedly ruined his reputation, but the damage is done already and we have to get over it. If we ignore everything related to BCH he will lose his game, so let's start with it directly.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: rtm125 on May 09, 2018, 10:42:38 PM
Bitcoin is a topic where you need to strain your brain. This is not a topic for everyone. Here earn far not silly people. New technologies, ideas, the future is born here. But on the way to the future there are many obstacles. This process is integral...


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: uray on May 09, 2018, 11:17:33 PM
Stands to reason newbies wanting to learn about Bitcoin will go to bitcoin.org or bitcoin.com and those wanting to learn about Bitcoin Cash will go to bitcoincash.org

How are newbies supposed to navigate the disaster created by Bitcoin Cash team?
Since the owner of bitcoin.com does have some influence in the market, he is representing BCH as bitcoin and every new user must study the different market before investing it and if you are lazy in doing the home work then you might end if investing in another coin than what you intended to do, so the main issue is with people jumping into things without even learning about the market and the problem lies there.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: SUDARMONO on May 09, 2018, 11:25:07 PM
Actually for beginners you can go on bitcoin.com and I think it will be easier for you to learn for beginners, and much to read and understand about bitcoin and BCH.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on May 10, 2018, 12:06:45 AM
Well as a suggestion, Do not buy until you are not familiar with something that is very costly.
The thing is people tend to jump in anything that would tell them that they will be getting bucks from it.
Lack of knowledge will definitely lead you to that kind of circumstances and I think he who have lost by being confused is liable for his own mistakes for he did not researched before buying.
In this industry, you have to do your own research. Such forums like Btctalk is just a place where you can find further perspective about news and facts.

Yes ultimately the one parting with their cash is responsbile but because of the confusion created by Bitcoin Cash it is nice if we can help newbies by providing clarity on some things.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: krism on May 10, 2018, 12:27:37 AM
Being a newbie, you are responsible for yourself. No one should be blamed. If you want to learn thoroughly about Bitcoin, Do some research. Bitcoin info is almost everywhere. But what we should do as members are to help to spread awareness. For a simple and little way, we can help them understand the basics of Bitcoin.
Thank you for that wonderful advise. As a beginner, it is just right that we are the one who are responsible for the outcome of our actions. Upon entering here in bitcoin, we should be prepare, knowledgeable and well informed to do this thing. Im doing some research to gain more knowledge.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on May 10, 2018, 12:33:26 AM
Thank you for that wonderful advise. As a beginner, it is just right that we are the one who are responsible for the outcome of our actions. Upon entering here in bitcoin, we should be prepare, knowledgeable and well informed to do this thing. Im doing some research to gain more knowledge.

If you need any advice or have any questions please ask, this forum by far has more "nice" people willing to help out than those "not so nice" who would not like to help.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: thecodebear on May 10, 2018, 12:35:25 AM
Yeah bitcon.com is unfortunately owned by a huge Bitcoin Cash troll and he does everything he can to confuse people and try to trick them into buying Bitcoin Cash when they actually want to buy Bitcoin. Bitcoin Cash and bitcoin.com are extremely scammy. Bitcoin.com has come to represent the worst in the crypto space, just a scam website meant to trick people so the owner can enrich himself. Never go there.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on May 10, 2018, 08:08:42 AM
Yeah bitcon.com is unfortunately owned by a huge Bitcoin Cash troll and he does everything he can to confuse people and try to trick them into buying Bitcoin Cash when they actually want to buy Bitcoin. Bitcoin Cash and bitcoin.com are extremely scammy. Bitcoin.com has come to represent the worst in the crypto space, just a scam website meant to trick people so the owner can enrich himself. Never go there.

That is one way of putting it so bluntly :)



Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Xester on May 10, 2018, 08:39:46 AM
This has been victimized many newbies. I have even heard complains both online and offline of people who have bought bitcoin (bch) and was surprised to see that why is their bitcoin (bch) only at 1000 dollars. They are confused and thus with some explanation they sold their bitcoin cash and convert it to bitcoin.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: tuikindu on May 10, 2018, 08:48:49 AM
Bitcoin is not a simple concept. If you want to study bitcoin completely, do some research. Bitcoin information is almost everywhere. In general, new scholars need to learn knowledge of cryptocurrency to invest in bitcoins.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: oceantiger on May 10, 2018, 09:03:59 AM
Bitcoin cash BCH is forked out of Bitcoin. BCH is less in value compare to Bitcoin. Bitcoin marketcap is bigger than that of the BCH although total amount of bitcoin anc BCH are same that is 21,000,000.00. Bitcoin was invented in 2010 while BCH was invented 2017.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: maichimoto on May 10, 2018, 09:09:33 AM
http://i66.tinypic.com/2ed4dxt.jpg

So, some newbies go to bitcoin.com and see BTC and BCH plastered all over the website.

In some places on the bitcoin.com website the words "Bitcoin" and letters "BCH" are conflated, in other places they are not. In some places mentions specific to "Bitcoin" are being made and in other places "Bitcoin" and "BCH" are mentioned as one and the same. In other places "Bitcoin" and "BTC" are used.

Stands to reason newbies wanting to learn about Bitcoin will go to bitcoin.org or bitcoin.com and those wanting to learn about Bitcoin Cash will go to bitcoincash.org

How are newbies supposed to navigate the disaster created by Bitcoin Cash team?

deluding people about bitcoin and bch, pretending bitcoin cash is bitcoin, that is just not right. Community has decided that Bitcoin is Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash is bitcoin cash, period... Bitcoin.com should get banned


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on May 10, 2018, 09:26:35 AM
This has been victimized many newbies. I have even heard complains both online and offline of people who have bought bitcoin (bch) and was surprised to see that why is their bitcoin (bch) only at 1000 dollars. They are confused and thus with some explanation they sold their bitcoin cash and convert it to bitcoin.

Sadly that is a by-product of the whole bitcoin.com domain hence why people hope Ver will stop it and divert all visitors to bitcoincash.org instead


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Nolivelasco13 on May 16, 2018, 10:53:04 AM
Bitcoin is a topic where you need to strain your brain. This is not a topic for everyone. Here earn far not silly people. New technologies, ideas, the future is born here. But on the way to the future there are many obstacles


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: slhardy on May 17, 2018, 02:12:42 PM
It's a long story when you start building a professional crypto background. I started with the small and easy-to-read articles and news websites, then added some relevant Telegram chats as well as forums like Bitcointalk.

When you have a strong desire to immerse deeply in the subject, then the amount of information doesn't count to you. Only time is a question. So don't worry about some people misunderstanding simple things. If they want to know and if they're going to learn, they will find the right way and ask proper questions.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on June 03, 2018, 01:54:30 PM
Bitcoin is a topic where you need to strain your brain. This is not a topic for everyone. Here earn far not silly people. New technologies, ideas, the future is born here. But on the way to the future there are many obstacles

Plenty of 'clever' people fall victims to scams or misinformation every day, that rule does not apply to just who you class as 'silly' people. Sure people need to strain their brain but newbies need a helping hand. When people visit a particular website they do not expect to find downloads and information related to its competitors.

As long as the bitcoin.com domain name causes issues by deliberately or otherwise passing off Bitcoin Cash as Bitcoin then people will continue to lose money.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: MUSFIKAR on June 03, 2018, 02:40:05 PM
Yes this website is trying to lure beginners to invest in Bitcoin shitcoin cash by not putting the original abbreviation Bitcoin website put BCH rather than Bitcoin (very cheap tactics) because the website owner is a cash backer of Bitcoin. For that beginners like me who are interested in This ecosystem is here, reading the publications and comments that help us to avoid and learn from the mistakes that at some earlier time beginners commit and clear up the doubts that come up every time we dive deeper into the world of cryptos.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: LangleyMccarty on June 07, 2018, 07:13:05 AM
Search for some informations that you're curious about then it makes you aware and understand the simple up to the hardest information about bitcoin


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on June 07, 2018, 11:31:56 AM
deluding people about bitcoin and bch, pretending bitcoin cash is bitcoin, that is just not right. Community has decided that Bitcoin is Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash is bitcoin cash, period... Bitcoin.com should get banned

I disagree because bitcoin.com should be handed over to the Bitcoin team that operate bitcoin.org

Yes the mess and confusion created by Bitcoin Cash is not a good thing for the community


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: chelle5 on June 07, 2018, 11:54:23 AM
Obviously newbie needs help from us but sometimes they want to earn more money in one click that is the problem all they have to do read research try to understand how it works, more time and patience.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on June 07, 2018, 07:23:11 PM
Obviously newbie needs help from us but sometimes they want to earn more money in one click that is the problem all they have to do read research try to understand how it works, more time and patience.

Not fair to blame a newbie for wanting to make a few quick bucks with a click or two but having what seems misinformation on bitcoin.com domain is not helping them.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: mackenzied on June 07, 2018, 07:30:29 PM
Obviously newbie needs help from us but sometimes they want to earn more money in one click that is the problem all they have to do read research try to understand how it works, more time and patience.

But most people want to make money easily or just in a click, and obviously, that's ridiculous. Laziness with ignorance has led to many bad consequences.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Rakabel619 on June 07, 2018, 07:41:38 PM
Hello. and in Romania this confusion was created, many of them mistakenly sent the money into the cash bitcoin accounts, and are still waiting to get them. is a real problem with cash bitcoin, have created a lot of confusion


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on June 07, 2018, 07:57:37 PM
Hello. and in Romania this confusion was created, many of them mistakenly sent the money into the cash bitcoin accounts, and are still waiting to get them. is a real problem with cash bitcoin, have created a lot of confusion

The solution is simple, bitcoin.com domain is causing the confusion so must change what it displays. I feel sorry for the newbies who are out of their depth because of the confusion created by the bitcoin.com domain


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: AlexAtom on June 08, 2018, 03:30:16 AM
http://i66.tinypic.com/2ed4dxt.jpg

So, some newbies go to bitcoin.com and see BTC and BCH plastered all over the website.

In some places on the bitcoin.com website the words "Bitcoin" and letters "BCH" are conflated, in other places they are not. In some places mentions specific to "Bitcoin" are being made and in other places "Bitcoin" and "BCH" are mentioned as one and the same. In other places "Bitcoin" and "BTC" are used.

Stands to reason newbies wanting to learn about Bitcoin will go to bitcoin.org or bitcoin.com and those wanting to learn about Bitcoin Cash will go to bitcoincash.org

How are newbies supposed to navigate the disaster created by Bitcoin Cash team?

Yes it is confusing indeed. I am sure many peoples have done wrong send or receive of bitcoin and bitcoincash because of it.
They could input a wrong address! I think they should update their address format so peoples can know the difference.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on June 08, 2018, 11:02:09 AM
Yes it is confusing indeed. I am sure many peoples have done wrong send or receive of bitcoin and bitcoincash because of it.
They could input a wrong address! I think they should update their address format so peoples can know the difference.

They do not know about updating address formats or the differencr between Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash because of the confusion created by the bitcoin.com domain which is owned and operated by the main person behind the creation of Bitcoin Cash (Roger Ver)


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: btcdimcash on June 15, 2018, 07:02:15 AM
Looks like Roger Ver is still up to his antics. I can't believe he's doing it this way though. It seems to only get in the way of Bitcoin education and make it more difficult and dangerous for newbie


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on June 15, 2018, 09:10:38 AM
Looks like Roger Ver is still up to his antics. I can't believe he's doing it this way though. It seems to only get in the way of Bitcoin education and make it more difficult and dangerous for newbie

The good thing about someone doing the wrong this is they still have the opportunity to set things right. I hope Ver will stop these "antics" as you put it and stop the confusion being spread by his bitcoin.com domain


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: stayeduptolate on June 16, 2018, 06:23:20 PM
http://i66.tinypic.com/2ed4dxt.jpg

So, some newbies go to bitcoin.com and see BTC and BCH plastered all over the website.

In some places on the bitcoin.com website the words "Bitcoin" and letters "BCH" are conflated, in other places they are not. In some places mentions specific to "Bitcoin" are being made and in other places "Bitcoin" and "BCH" are mentioned as one and the same. In other places "Bitcoin" and "BTC" are used.

Stands to reason newbies wanting to learn about Bitcoin will go to bitcoin.org or bitcoin.com and those wanting to learn about Bitcoin Cash will go to bitcoincash.org

How are newbies supposed to navigate the disaster created by Bitcoin Cash team?
I would always suggest bitcoin to every one in the society because if I share the personal experience of mine then bitcoin is something who can change your world to a very great extent. Bitcoin has that potential that it can change your social status to a very good value. Bitcoin has always helped me to bear my personal expenses by my own and has always helped me to be self dependent so I will always recommend bitcoin to every newbie and these bitcoin cash and BTC are just forms of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on June 16, 2018, 06:49:37 PM
I think 99% of the newbies facing problems learning about the distinctions between Bitcoin and the recently created fork called Bitcoin Cash are derived from the bitcoin.com domain which is owned by Ver.



Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Herbys on June 16, 2018, 06:59:58 PM
This, of course, is not the same, but on its Bitcoin Cash prince is the more perfect Bitcoin with the increased block size.
People are interested in everything related to Bitcoin. :)


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Leysen on June 17, 2018, 08:41:10 AM

There are things that newcomers do not understand, and this can have serious consequences. In the case of most crypto-investment, your money is not protected by any laws and no guarantees. The price is subject to market forces and is not set by any central part. So, in case of large losses, you can hardly return money


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: bitvalak on June 17, 2018, 09:41:41 AM
because that is the easiest way to lure newbies into bitcoincash from bitcoin. Because if the newbies manage to invest there, bitcoin will be safe and they will play with the junk coin. Games for newbies not to have bitcoins


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: gabmen on June 17, 2018, 09:52:50 AM
Well they have to diversify their sources if they want to really get a good idea of bitcoin and crypto. Of course it can be a little confusing especially if you haven't been exposed to bitcoin yet prior to bch's release. Keep yourself informed and updated. The more you immerse yourself into it, the easier you'll avoid these simple confusions


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: tee-rex on June 17, 2018, 10:07:11 AM
So, some newbies go to bitcoin.com and see BTC and BCH plastered all over the website.

In some places on the bitcoin.com website the words "Bitcoin" and letters "BCH" are conflated, in other places they are not. In some places mentions specific to "Bitcoin" are being made and in other places "Bitcoin" and "BCH" are mentioned as one and the same. In other places "Bitcoin" and "BTC" are used.

Stands to reason newbies wanting to learn about Bitcoin will go to bitcoin.org or bitcoin.com and those wanting to learn about Bitcoin Cash will go to bitcoincash.org

How are newbies supposed to navigate the disaster created by Bitcoin Cash team?

It is not just about Bitcoin Cash only as there are a dozen (and counting) Bitcoin copycats existing in the wild now. From my perspective, it is pretty much like distinguishing between American and Zimbabwean dollars (I think I came up with a decent example to show the scope of distinction here). In other words, if you can't tell the difference between the two, you may be advised to stay away from either. Or, in the very least, try to find out more and learn what's what in the cryptoverse, where the true difference lies.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on June 17, 2018, 10:46:38 AM

There are things that newcomers do not understand, and this can have serious consequences. In the case of most crypto-investment, your money is not protected by any laws and no guarantees. The price is subject to market forces and is not set by any central part. So, in case of large losses, you can hardly return money

And where does your post fit in with the OP? It is not about laws and guarantees but about newbies facing problems because of being confused by conflicting information on the bitcoin.com website which is not owned or operated by the Bitcoin team but rather owned and operated by Roger Ver who is behind the low level fork called Bitcoin Cash.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on March 20, 2019, 12:03:20 AM
Since BCH is on the decline to oblivion and Bitcoin remains supreme there is not much longer to wait before newbies will be no longer get confused by the information put out on the bitcoin.com website and think it refers to the information put out on bitcoin.org

BCH is becoming more and more irrelevant as each day passes


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Karamabit_209 on April 07, 2019, 07:48:07 PM
Think and assess everything before you make a decision. Those newbies obviously didn't research that much and the consequences of this laziness is sometimes everything.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Kamoteng Kahoy on April 07, 2019, 09:59:31 PM
Think and assess everything before you make a decision. Those newbies obviously didn't research that much and the consequences of this laziness is sometimes everything.
But we, those who are not new to these, must help them by making them aware though.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: Karamabit_209 on April 07, 2019, 10:20:40 PM
Think and assess everything before you make a decision. Those newbies obviously didn't research that much and the consequences of this laziness is sometimes everything.
But we, those who are not new to these, must help them by making them aware though.
Well yeah,  but again, if they are lazy to read it, then what it is for? Before you go to an action, you need to think about it and gather information before doing it. Like on trading, before trying it you need first to find the perfect site (https://darbfinance.com/?=crowd) for cryptocurrency exchanges (converting small crypto dusts, instant transaction speed, no currency risk, a gateway to payment for  online and physical activities,  operating globally, etc) but you can't find it when you don't try and you need perseverance to learn it. Same applies to the post mentioned, you can only see how those people wanted to earn fast because of doing things fast without thinking and assessing if that site is a scam or a legit one.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: lyks15 on April 08, 2019, 12:30:26 AM
I think the best way to avoid confussion when you are a newbies is to make some research or if possible you can talk to the people who are already experienced in bitcoin industry because I think when someone explain to you about bitcoin you can understand easily rather than reading blog.


Title: Re: Spot the Newbie Problems: Bitcoin or Not?
Post by: JollyGood on April 08, 2019, 12:41:29 AM
Think and assess everything before you make a decision. Those newbies obviously didn't research that much and the consequences of this laziness is sometimes everything.

Maybe those newbies did good research but were confused by what they saw on the BCH website