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Title: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: Jerfer on December 04, 2013, 09:49:57 PM
How is it possible to "counterfeit" Bitcoin? "Illegally generating"? Hmm.

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German police have arrested two people suspected of illegally generating Bitcoins worth nearly $1 million.

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Prosecutors in the German town of Kempten said they are investigating whether people used software to create digital Bitcoins worth 700,000 euros, about $950,000, Bloomberg News reported.
Wth?
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-bitcoin-counterfeit-germany-arrest-20131204,0,7896369.story (http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-bitcoin-counterfeit-germany-arrest-20131204,0,7896369.story)


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: bitmagi on December 04, 2013, 10:26:15 PM
This is a very poorly written article.  They most likely got caught stealing bitcoins by hacking, malware etc...


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: gusti on December 04, 2013, 10:27:21 PM
you cannot "counterfeit" bitcoins ... I smell BS ...


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: BurtW on December 04, 2013, 10:30:39 PM
They have:

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2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany

And

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German police have arrested two people suspected of illegally generating Bitcoins worth nearly $1 million.

Both are stupid.


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: coinseller2014 on December 04, 2013, 10:36:21 PM
lol this is funny


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: Akka on December 04, 2013, 10:39:46 PM
Bad translation. Actually those guys used trojans to create a Botnet and mine Bitcoins.

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/bka-und-gsg-9-nehmen-mutmassliche-bitcoin-betrueger-fest-a-937236.html


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: hilariousandco on December 04, 2013, 10:41:00 PM
I guess something got lost in translation. You could "counterfeit" paperwallets I suppose, or more specifically commit fraud/deception with them.


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: mvidetto on December 04, 2013, 10:57:40 PM
Yeah not buying this.


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: BurtW on December 04, 2013, 11:01:41 PM
Yeah not buying this.
Explained as a bad translation here:
Bad translation. Actually those guys used trojans to create a Botnet and mine Bitcoins.

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/bka-und-gsg-9-nehmen-mutmassliche-bitcoin-betrueger-fest-a-937236.html


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: bumpk1nK on December 04, 2013, 11:02:01 PM
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German police have arrested two people suspected of illegally generating Bitcoins worth nearly $1 million.

But they used electricity from victims worth how many million dollars...


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: BurtW on December 04, 2013, 11:05:04 PM
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German police have arrested two people suspected of illegally generating Bitcoins worth nearly $1 million.

But they used electricity from victims worth how many million dollars...

I read once that it takes about $600,000 in stolen electricity to produce $2000 in BTC, that was a while ago so maybe $10,000 in BTC now.


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: Fermin on December 04, 2013, 11:12:14 PM
With this translation its impossible to understand


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: UrbanZenMaster on December 04, 2013, 11:50:32 PM
This article seems to be the result of poor journalism.  How is it that those whose chosen role in life is to provide information to the public don't do the proper research and misrepresent what is really going.  Yes, the writer probably used a poor translation of an article from Germany, but hey, it's the LA TIMES, if you can't get it right, you shouldn't print it... the writer should have done a little research before printing a headline that suggested that bitcoins were being counterfeited.  Even if it was true, the writer then mentions that bitcoins are 'unregulated' virtual currency in the content of the article... now wait a sec, how does one counterfeit and get arrested for something that is unregulated... that sounds like regulation to me!  Even if this guy had his facts right, which he doesn't, his article simply doesn't make sense and shouldn't have been posted... doesn't anyone at the LA TIMES oversee what literature they allow to be posted with their name on it?

I just think 'journalists' have a responsibility to at least type something into google to check their facts before spreading information.  My thoughts upon reading this and all the other recent articles that contain 'facts' about bitcoin that are wrong, is how does this effect the average person or noob to bitcoin?  How many people might think 'oh, bitcoins can be counterfeited, better not get into that' and other such silly notions that are derived from bad news and media practices (like not fact checking...)


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: CEG5952 on December 05, 2013, 12:03:55 AM
wtf la times.... how do you not know the difference between counterfeit and hack?


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: beetcoin on December 05, 2013, 12:09:37 AM
this is not really journalism if they are not spending the time to vet their stories to get the correct information out to the public. these are just lazy people who want to make a quick buck by posting any story.


Title: Re: 2 suspected Bitcoin counterfeiters are arrested in Germany
Post by: gekkomk on December 05, 2013, 05:15:19 AM
It seems they were using software in order to steal real bitcoins. Counterfeit bitcoins is a kind of bad comparison from the author with real currencies problems.