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Title: How do I protect my air-gapped wallet from latest malware that travel by sound?
Post by: gabriella on December 06, 2013, 12:31:07 PM
as we know the latest malware and virus (e.g. BadBIOS) hack your computers and steal your data by travelling through computer speakers, thus jumping over air-gap protection.

how do i protect my bitcoin wallet from these threats?


Title: Re: How do I protect my air-gapped wallet from latest malware that travel by sound?
Post by: RaTTuS on December 06, 2013, 12:39:58 PM
tin foil hats...
well either that or a sound proof room
who needs sound anyway



Title: Re: How do I protect my air-gapped wallet from latest malware that travel by sound?
Post by: Rannasha on December 06, 2013, 12:46:11 PM
BadBIOS can only communicate via speakers if both machines are already infected. Infecting a clean machine via sound-waves is still far too sci-fi to worry about.


Title: Re: How do I protect my air-gapped wallet from latest malware that travel by sound?
Post by: ManBearPig on December 06, 2013, 12:47:48 PM
You can't.

The Newluminati reptiles can take your cryptoez by thought any time they want.

Nah I'm only kidding. Just shell out for a few metres of this stuff:

http://www.noiseaddicts.com/2008/11/most-expensive-speaker-cable-world-audioquest-audiophile/ (http://www.noiseaddicts.com/2008/11/most-expensive-speaker-cable-world-audioquest-audiophile/)

And place your speakers on the OUTSIDE of your house.

Works a charm.


Title: Re: How do I protect my air-gapped wallet from latest malware that travel by sound?
Post by: zimmah on December 06, 2013, 01:04:18 PM
If you are that worried about it, there are still several options.

1) use wallpaper that blocks electromagnetic waves (yes they exists), throughout the room your computer is in, or even your entire house. (Note, this may mess up your wifi, and should mess up radio and mobile phones)

2) generate a wallet from several strings of data that are each randomly generated, using different computers and physical objects, and concatenate the strings on a piece of paper.

Probably much more options.


Title: Re: How do I protect my air-gapped wallet from latest malware that travel by sound?
Post by: Rannasha on December 06, 2013, 01:13:49 PM
^^

Sound isn't an electromagnetic wave.


Title: Re: How do I protect my air-gapped wallet from latest malware that travel by sound?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 06, 2013, 01:18:56 PM
as we know the latest malware and virus (e.g. BadBIOS) hack your computers and steal your data by travelling through computer speakers, thus jumping over air-gap protection.

how do i protect my bitcoin wallet from these threats?

You can swallow the usb with your wallet on, or stick it up your arse. This will protect against soundtheives.


Title: Re: How do I protect my air-gapped wallet from latest malware that travel by sound?
Post by: Bitcoinpro on December 06, 2013, 02:31:20 PM
http://cf.chucklesnetwork.agj.co/items/9/9/2/1/not-sure-if-dubstep-or-broken-speakers.jpg


Title: Re: How do I protect my air-gapped wallet from latest malware that travel by sound?
Post by: b!z on December 06, 2013, 02:33:36 PM
Remove the cold storage computer's speakers, microphone, and sound card.


Title: Re: How do I protect my air-gapped wallet from latest malware that travel by sound?
Post by: Arksun on December 06, 2013, 03:04:42 PM
as we know the latest malware and virus (e.g. BadBIOS) hack your computers and steal your data by travelling through computer speakers, thus jumping over air-gap protection.

how do i protect my bitcoin wallet from these threats?

Who's we?, we the stupid people we?. What you describe is impossible, period.
Communication through sound between two devices would only work if both had speaker and mic and both had specific installed software running and it would have to be in freq range both speaker and mic could emit and detect (ie audible to humans given poor freq range of most computer speakers and mics) and even then it would be rather unreliable.


Title: Re: How do I protect my air-gapped wallet from latest malware that travel by sound?
Post by: proudhon on December 06, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
as we know the latest malware and virus (e.g. BadBIOS) hack your computers and steal your data by travelling through computer speakers, thus jumping over air-gap protection.

how do i protect my bitcoin wallet from these threats?

No, we don't know that.  The BIOS dumps that were provided by the researcher claiming to have found BadBIOS have been analysed by lots of researchers and not a single one has been able to validate the existence of Ruiu's BadBIOS malware.  Hardware and BIOS experts have weighed in, in addition to most of the heavyweights in security research.  And...Nothing.

But, whatever, if you're really worried about air-gap jumping BIOS malware that traverses airgaps using sound, then there's an obvious solution:  Don't attach a mic to the offline system.  

What you should actually be worried about is malware that can hitch a ride on USB sticks, because those are actually known to exist.


Title: Re: How do I protect my air-gapped wallet from latest malware that travel by sound?
Post by: Bitcoinpro on December 06, 2013, 03:36:41 PM
soon it will be computer viruses transmitted by STD's and we all know how that will happen  ;)


Title: Re: How do I protect my air-gapped wallet from latest malware that travel by sound?
Post by: Junkey on December 06, 2013, 05:39:20 PM
It doesn't exist.  Nothing to worry about.


Title: Re: How do I protect my air-gapped wallet from latest malware that travel by sound?
Post by: IsaacGoldbourne on December 06, 2013, 05:53:17 PM
Badbios was fake