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Title: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: BitcoinTate on December 07, 2013, 05:39:23 PM
3 votes per user.

With a flood of alts from May and a new flood emerging right now it is important that we as a community start sorting through the good and bad coins.

This will help keep newcomers from being scammed as well as organizing support for certain coins or killing others off. All of the top 43 coins from coinmarketcap are listed as well as others.

If I forgot one please list it.

Vote for your favorite coins here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=359521.0


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: elasticband on December 07, 2013, 05:42:02 PM
you missed out bitcoin, the biggest scam coin of them all, probably the shitist also. please add bitcoin so i can vote

I call shenanigans, the OP is obviously a bitcoin supporter, fetch the hounds and pitchforks


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: cryptohunter on December 07, 2013, 05:42:46 PM
just avoid any new coins that show no new innovation from this point on, there are enough alts now.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: captainfuture on December 07, 2013, 05:44:35 PM
why is novacoin 2 times on the list ??


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: BitcoinTate on December 07, 2013, 05:47:53 PM
why is novacoin 2 times on the list ??
Edited. Its a long list... I have a real hard spot for Novacoin. j/k lol


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: cryptohunter on December 07, 2013, 05:48:40 PM
this is a pointless exercise, everyone just votes for the coins they DONT have.

without having to give valid reasons behind the vote it is not worth having.

Either all are a scam or none are a scam the market has decided their rate, it's that simple.  A coin even BTC is worth what people will pay for it.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: BitcoinTate on December 07, 2013, 05:56:39 PM
this is a pointless exercise, everyone just votes for the coins they DONT have.

without having to give valid reasons behind the vote it is not worth having.

Either all are a scam or none are a scam the market has decided their rate, it's that simple.  A coin even BTC is worth what people will pay for it.
Over time with enough votes this will give a good idea of where the community / market is heading. Some coins are much worse than others.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: BitcoinTate on December 07, 2013, 06:01:56 PM
I should say where the market is not heading. lol


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: BitcoinTate on December 07, 2013, 06:09:44 PM
People have already taken a major dislike to Bosscoin. Guess I wasted three hours of mining a few days ago. lol


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: hypostatization on December 07, 2013, 06:19:46 PM
If titled 'vote against the coins you that see as the biggest threat to your own investments', results would probably be similar.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: tokyoghetto on December 07, 2013, 06:25:39 PM
Feathercoin - Instamined trash

Goldcoin - Blockreward scam

Chncoin - mine and dump scam...Hall Of Fame because its happened twice...when it was first launched and just this past week when it was hard forked with a new diff algo...don't expect the "new" Dev to really make this coin work.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: glitchboy on December 07, 2013, 06:27:56 PM
Rvdcoin?


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: number37 on December 07, 2013, 06:32:00 PM
lol, so many shit coins there... GLB, TAG, BSS would probably be the top 3.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: valley365 on December 07, 2013, 06:52:57 PM
so many shit coins


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: BitcoinTate on December 07, 2013, 07:01:49 PM
What is the rationale for so many people against stablecoin? Its a very innovative idea. The premine was destroyed and the first blocks paid out less than they do now.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: GameKyuubi on December 07, 2013, 07:20:09 PM
this is a pointless exercise, everyone just votes for the coins they DONT have.

Well, yeah.  Why would anyone buy a coin they thought was a scam??


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: GameKyuubi on December 07, 2013, 07:22:20 PM
What is the rationale for so many people against stablecoin? Its a very innovative idea. The premine was destroyed and the first blocks paid out less than they do now.

Yeah I don't get it either.  It seems like a solid coin.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: dreamhouse on December 07, 2013, 08:31:27 PM
so many shitcoins recently: GLB, NXT, BSS,... people become very greedy now.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Amph on December 07, 2013, 08:44:14 PM
you missed out bitcoin, the biggest scam coin of them all, probably the shitist also. please add bitcoin so i can vote

I call shenanigans, the OP is obviously a bitcoin supporter, fetch the hounds and pitchforks

lmao


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: zavtra on December 07, 2013, 11:23:35 PM
It's kind of funny that some of the coins that got rated the highest as most likely to grow in 2014 similarly got rated highest as most likely to be shit or a scam.

I voted for NXT coins though, because the fine print on its exchange reads something like "All bitcoins placed into the exchange belong to the exchange.", and the owner of the exchange, and the main NXT website, also owns another domain with the word "Ponzi" in it for some reason.

It's an interesting concept but it needs to be steered clear of at all costs with the people running it.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: MicroGuy on December 07, 2013, 11:30:31 PM
3 votes per user.

With a flood of alts from May and a new flood emerging right now it is important that we as a community start sorting through the good and bad coins.

This will help keep newcomers from being scammed as well as organizing support for certain coins or killing others off. All of the top 43 coins from coinmarketcap are listed as well as others.

If I forgot one please list it.

Vote for your favorite coins here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=359521.0

I don't see how these polls are useful when you have members here with 10 or 20 (or more) accounts.  ???


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: number37 on December 08, 2013, 09:09:16 PM
From the votes, people do know what are the shit/scam coins   :)


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: MsCollec on December 08, 2013, 09:15:16 PM
This should be the top 3 biggest scam coins

1]SBC - Stablecoin    
2]QRK - Quarkcoin    
3]MEC - Megacoin


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: alexrussel1980 on December 08, 2013, 09:24:49 PM
I vote down only for NXT -  the only negative experience i have so far
for not giving users equal opportunity to get coins when they was cheap :P
i deposited some bitpieces week ago to the exchange and my balance is still 0
i dnot care how busy the owner is and my bitbieces etc
it should be automated process to give the best user experience and liquidity  -< not only for  the chosen ones
please do not reply to my post i simply dont want to be involved
all i do i share my personal experience and i think it smells fish
my 1c


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Kane49 on December 08, 2013, 09:27:23 PM
This should be the top 3 biggest scam coins

1]SBC - Stablecoin    
2]QRK - Quarkcoin    
3]MEC - Megacoin

Interesting Selection


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: disclaimer201 on December 10, 2013, 09:12:15 AM
This should be the top 3 biggest scam coins

1]SBC - Stablecoin    
2]QRK - Quarkcoin    
3]MEC - Megacoin

Interesting Selection

I know too little about SBC, but I would go QRK, MEC, and NVC.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Safty on December 10, 2013, 09:20:49 AM
NXT, QRK, Cinnamon, shit etc.. most of them


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: 2Kool4Skewl on December 10, 2013, 09:56:35 AM
I vote down only for NXT -  the only negative experience i have so far
for not giving users equal opportunity to get coins when they was cheap :P
i deposited some bitpieces week ago to the exchange and my balance is still 0
i dnot care how busy the owner is and my bitbieces etc
it should be automated process to give the best user experience and liquidity  -< not only for  the chosen ones
please do not reply to my post i simply dont want to be involved
all i do i share my personal experience and i think it smells fish
my 1c

What?  You had over a month to invest in Nxt (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.0).  Why didn't you?

Go buy some Nxt at Dgex.com (http://Dgex.com)

or



Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: digicoin on December 10, 2013, 12:12:38 PM
What a huge list


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: El Dude on December 10, 2013, 12:16:23 PM
QRK - Quarkcoin -instamined coin , complete trash

also feathercoin , also instamined in the frist 24 hours


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: xephireusMMX on December 11, 2013, 12:06:50 AM
you missed out bitcoin, the biggest scam coin of them all, probably the shitist also. please add bitcoin so i can vote

I call shenanigans, the OP is obviously a bitcoin supporter, fetch the hounds and pitchforks

This is ridiculous, without Bitcoin your preffered altcoin would be dead as well


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: PinkPotatos on December 11, 2013, 12:36:39 AM
If titled 'vote against the coins you that see as the biggest threat to your own investments', results would probably be similar.

quack shills are always trying to spin bad news into good news.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: AltCoinSpeculation on December 12, 2013, 03:27:26 PM
this is a pointless exercise, everyone just votes for the coins they DONT have.

without having to give valid reasons behind the vote it is not worth having.

Either all are a scam or none are a scam the market has decided their rate, it's that simple.  A coin even BTC is worth what people will pay for it.


Well Said, time will separate the good coins from bad,


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: cryptohunter on December 12, 2013, 04:03:02 PM
This should be the top 3 biggest scam coins

1]SBC - Stablecoin    
2]QRK - Quarkcoin    
3]MEC - Megacoin

noobs crying ...gotta love it..

THE ONES WITH THE MOST VOTES YOU SHOULD BUY

it is obvious, the ones least people have will always have the highest price since they are more desirable lol

look at all the noobs trolls in here, all jealous and upset at missing out..... get back to your doge and troll coins fools, this time next year you'll be rich ....you can afford to buy a qrk, mec, sbc if you really go for it, get those rigs going 24/7

ANY COINS NOOB TROLLS ARE CRYING ABOUT -- BUY THEM BECAUSE THEY WOULD IF THEY HAD ANY CRYPTO WEALTH!!!

If not then just get on the latest get rich quick scheme...doge, troll, etc   who knows perhaps some exchange who is desperate may start listing them in a few months time.

BEWARE THOUGH, IF DOGE SHOOTS UP IN VALUE .....EVEN NEWER NOOB TROLLS WILL LABEL IT A SCAM COIN

I remember when everyone was calling LTC PPC scam coins... Try and buy a few thousand of them now.



Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: cryptohunter on December 12, 2013, 04:04:14 PM
If titled 'vote against the coins you that see as the biggest threat to your own investments', results would probably be similar.

quack shills are always trying to spin bad news into good news.

wait 42 posts and joined yesterday....let me listen to everything you say, you must have learned a lot in the 3 seconds since you heard about crypto...... what's that sell all my ltc,qrk,mec,digi scam coins and get into doge and tr0ll..     LOL




Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: BitcoinTate on December 12, 2013, 06:32:59 PM
If titled 'vote against the coins you that see as the biggest threat to your own investments', results would probably be similar.

quack shills are always trying to spin bad news into good news.

wait 42 posts and joined yesterday....let me listen to everything you say, you must have learned a lot in the 3 seconds since you heard about crypto...... what's that sell all my ltc,qrk,mec,digi scam coins and get into doge and tr0ll..     LOL



+1


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Meebo on December 12, 2013, 06:51:53 PM
This forum is BTC-e trollchat 2.0.

Nice threads...


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: theking7426 on January 14, 2014, 06:55:02 AM
#1 Blesscoin
#2 Blesscoin
#3 Blesscoin
#4 Giftcoin
#5 Giftcoin


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: tk808 on January 14, 2014, 06:57:15 AM
Doge coin is not listed, that was a sure #1 spot. Unless Doge came out after this poll was made


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: dadon on January 15, 2014, 02:03:58 AM
i vote dogecoin, piece of trash, made crypto's look like it's run by a bunch of down syndrome children


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: StephenJH on January 15, 2014, 02:07:30 AM
heh, I see a lot of people are pissed about missing the quark train. See that 33 btc buy order on cryptsy? It already ate 20 btc worth. Bitches snooze bitches lose.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Jeezy911 on January 15, 2014, 02:11:40 AM
Need to please add earthcoin. The online wallet was initially developed by a scammer. Lost 7620.46 coins before the desktop wallet was released, and I know for a fact I wasn't the only one, check the forums.  We cannot possibly support and grow a coin knowing there is a scammer that would get super rich due to the Devs carelessness on launch.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: disclaimer201 on January 15, 2014, 03:57:38 AM
QRK will be forked soon.


Title: Re: POLL: What trains did you miss?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on January 15, 2014, 07:37:47 AM
POLL: What trains did you miss?

Interesting poll, watching...


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Balthazar on January 15, 2014, 07:38:02 AM
Quote
Total Voters: 406

Well... Census hypocrites is a good thing too, watching.  :)


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on January 15, 2014, 07:51:19 AM
you missed out bitcoin, the biggest scam coin of them all, probably the shitist also. please add bitcoin so i can vote

Oh dear, someone is all butthurt about something.  :D


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: saamxx on January 15, 2014, 07:57:19 AM
You have forgot to add to that poll the true cryptocurrency - DigiByte )
Please add it. I need to vote.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: allwelder on January 15, 2014, 08:57:59 AM
you should list bitcoin.
where is visacoin?


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: LittleD on January 15, 2014, 10:34:30 PM
wow QRK - Quarkcoin @ 90 (9.7%) ;/ why?


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: alrose on January 16, 2014, 03:26:52 AM
is btc ;D


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: msin on January 16, 2014, 03:27:31 AM
Why don't you list coins that were actually a scam, like Visacoin?


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: msin on January 16, 2014, 03:35:33 AM
It's kind of funny that some of the coins that got rated the highest as most likely to grow in 2014 similarly got rated highest as most likely to be shit or a scam.

I voted for NXT coins though, because the fine print on its exchange reads something like "All bitcoins placed into the exchange belong to the exchange.", and the owner of the exchange, and the main NXT website, also owns another domain with the word "Ponzi" in it for some reason.

It's an interesting concept but it needs to be steered clear of at all costs with the people running it.

You voted for a coin because of a 3rd party exchange website verbiage?  Interesting.  The main Nxt website is NxtCrypto.org, it's run by the community.  The currency has zero affiliation with Dgex, he is just the first person to start an exchange, that's all.  Tell you what, open a Nxt account, PM me your account #, and I'll send you 100 Nxt so you can at least check it out.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: xgc on January 16, 2014, 03:45:40 AM
It's kind of funny that some of the coins that got rated the highest as most likely to grow in 2014 similarly got rated highest as most likely to be shit or a scam.

I voted for NXT coins though, because the fine print on its exchange reads something like "All bitcoins placed into the exchange belong to the exchange.", and the owner of the exchange, and the main NXT website, also owns another domain with the word "Ponzi" in it for some reason.

It's an interesting concept but it needs to be steered clear of at all costs with the people running it.

You voted for a coin because of a 3rd party exchange website verbiage?  Interesting.  The main Nxt website is NxtCrypto.org, it's run by the community.  The currency has zero affiliation with Dgex, he is just the first person to start an exchange, that's all.  Tell you what, open a Nxt account, PM me your account #, and I'll send you 100 Nxt so you can at least check it out.

I agree.. people don't do their research. DGEX was one of the first exchanges to support FRC when no exchanges wanted to touch demurrage.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Balthazar on January 16, 2014, 08:54:40 AM
519 hypocrites overall right now. :)


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on January 16, 2014, 08:57:49 AM
519 hypocrites overall right now. :)

Actually there r only ~10 real people behind most of them.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: td services on January 16, 2014, 07:41:40 PM
It's kind of funny that some of the coins that got rated the highest as most likely to grow in 2014 similarly got rated highest as most likely to be shit or a scam.

I voted for NXT coins though, because the fine print on its exchange reads something like "All bitcoins placed into the exchange belong to the exchange.", and the owner of the exchange, and the main NXT website, also owns another domain with the word "Ponzi" in it for some reason.

It's an interesting concept but it needs to be steered clear of at all costs with the people running it.

NXT got my vote as well. They closed their investment 6 weeks early without advance notice to avoid dilution of existing investment, so the early investors could own a much larger stake, and then start selling a week later at a 4762% markup.

I see they are #2 and should be #1 on the list.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on January 16, 2014, 07:58:08 PM
It's kind of funny that some of the coins that got rated the highest as most likely to grow in 2014 similarly got rated highest as most likely to be shit or a scam.

I voted for NXT coins though, because the fine print on its exchange reads something like "All bitcoins placed into the exchange belong to the exchange.", and the owner of the exchange, and the main NXT website, also owns another domain with the word "Ponzi" in it for some reason.

It's an interesting concept but it needs to be steered clear of at all costs with the people running it.

NXT got my vote as well. They closed their investment 6 weeks early without advance notice to avoid dilution of existing investment, so the early investors could own a much larger stake, and then start selling a week later at a 4762% markup.

I see they are #2 and should be #1 on the list.

Aye, we know that u r upset, u already posted this in another thread.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: salsacz on January 16, 2014, 09:15:54 PM
It's kind of funny that some of the coins that got rated the highest as most likely to grow in 2014 similarly got rated highest as most likely to be shit or a scam.

I voted for NXT coins though, because the fine print on its exchange reads something like "All bitcoins placed into the exchange belong to the exchange.", and the owner of the exchange, and the main NXT website, also owns another domain with the word "Ponzi" in it for some reason.

It's an interesting concept but it needs to be steered clear of at all costs with the people running it.

NXT got my vote as well. They closed their investment 6 weeks early without advance notice to avoid dilution of existing investment, so the early investors could own a much larger stake, and then start selling a week later at a 4762% markup.

I see they are #2 and should be #1 on the list.

if they waited 6 weeks, 6 months, 6 years... there would still be angry people


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: td services on January 16, 2014, 09:23:15 PM
It's kind of funny that some of the coins that got rated the highest as most likely to grow in 2014 similarly got rated highest as most likely to be shit or a scam.

I voted for NXT coins though, because the fine print on its exchange reads something like "All bitcoins placed into the exchange belong to the exchange.", and the owner of the exchange, and the main NXT website, also owns another domain with the word "Ponzi" in it for some reason.

It's an interesting concept but it needs to be steered clear of at all costs with the people running it.

NXT got my vote as well. They closed their investment 6 weeks early without advance notice to avoid dilution of existing investment, so the early investors could own a much larger stake, and then start selling a week later at a 4762% markup.

I see they are #2 and should be #1 on the list.

Aye, we know that u r upset, u already posted this in another thread.

Yes, there would always be angry people, but NXT would be able to make the claim that everyone who knew about it and made the stated deadline was able to invest.

Do you deny that the pre-sale was closed early without advance notice to prevent dilution of existing investment?


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: DieJohnny on January 16, 2014, 09:24:13 PM
unbelievable Ripple is not on this list and MegaGoin

Should have listed in alphabetic order, but hands down the scam coins have to have these attributes:

1. Not Bitcoin
2. No mining
3. PreMined

My top four:

1. Ripple
2. NXT - love the differentiation but man what a crap product and no mining of coins is a deal killer.  
3. QRK - come on, how is this coin even popular
4. Mega - avoid shiny things that steal their luster from others


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: salsacz on January 16, 2014, 09:25:14 PM
It's kind of funny that some of the coins that got rated the highest as most likely to grow in 2014 similarly got rated highest as most likely to be shit or a scam.

I voted for NXT coins though, because the fine print on its exchange reads something like "All bitcoins placed into the exchange belong to the exchange.", and the owner of the exchange, and the main NXT website, also owns another domain with the word "Ponzi" in it for some reason.

It's an interesting concept but it needs to be steered clear of at all costs with the people running it.

NXT got my vote as well. They closed their investment 6 weeks early without advance notice to avoid dilution of existing investment, so the early investors could own a much larger stake, and then start selling a week later at a 4762% markup.

I see they are #2 and should be #1 on the list.

Aye, we know that u r upset, u already posted this in another thread.

Yes, there would always be angry people, but NXT would be able to make the claim that everyone who knew about it and made the stated deadline was able to invest.

Do you deny that the pre-sale was closed early without advance notice to prevent dilution of existing investment?

I checked all BCNexts's posts and there had never been any time limit or number of stakeholders


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: DieJohnny on January 16, 2014, 09:26:48 PM
It's kind of funny that some of the coins that got rated the highest as most likely to grow in 2014 similarly got rated highest as most likely to be shit or a scam.

I voted for NXT coins though, because the fine print on its exchange reads something like "All bitcoins placed into the exchange belong to the exchange.", and the owner of the exchange, and the main NXT website, also owns another domain with the word "Ponzi" in it for some reason.

It's an interesting concept but it needs to be steered clear of at all costs with the people running it.

NXT got my vote as well. They closed their investment 6 weeks early without advance notice to avoid dilution of existing investment, so the early investors could own a much larger stake, and then start selling a week later at a 4762% markup.

I see they are #2 and should be #1 on the list.

Aye, we know that u r upset, u already posted this in another thread.

if there is no mining it is a scheme, pure and simple. No amount of words or platitude can remove the reality that ALL positions in the matrix were filled at the beginning, selling the seats is meaningless, pre notification is meaningless. If you don't mine new coins at launch, it is a scam.

Yes, there would always be angry people, but NXT would be able to make the claim that everyone who knew about it and made the stated deadline was able to invest.

Do you deny that the pre-sale was closed early without advance notice to prevent dilution of existing investment?


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: td services on January 16, 2014, 09:40:42 PM
It's kind of funny that some of the coins that got rated the highest as most likely to grow in 2014 similarly got rated highest as most likely to be shit or a scam.

I voted for NXT coins though, because the fine print on its exchange reads something like "All bitcoins placed into the exchange belong to the exchange.", and the owner of the exchange, and the main NXT website, also owns another domain with the word "Ponzi" in it for some reason.

It's an interesting concept but it needs to be steered clear of at all costs with the people running it.

NXT got my vote as well. They closed their investment 6 weeks early without advance notice to avoid dilution of existing investment, so the early investors could own a much larger stake, and then start selling a week later at a 4762% markup.

I see they are #2 and should be #1 on the list.

Aye, we know that u r upset, u already posted this in another thread.

Yes, there would always be angry people, but NXT would be able to make the claim that everyone who knew about it and made the stated deadline was able to invest.

Do you deny that the pre-sale was closed early without advance notice to prevent dilution of existing investment?

I checked all BCNexts's posts and there had never been any time limit or number of stakeholders

According to Come-from-Beyond there was a "change in plans" from the planned January 3rd launch date. The deadline for investment was ambiguous, which was what I was asking clarification of, though others posting in the thread also took the 3rd as the deadline for investment.

From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.480 :

Can we still join in between now and January 3? I haven't really seen any clear definition of a deadline.

I'm waiting for the answer. BCNext reads this thread.

Some changes in the plan:

1. Fundraising is over. That last 1 BTC, sent after the 2nd marking transaction, will be accepted but no more deposits should be made.
2. Nxt will be launched earlier than on the 3rd of January, right after the final test.
3. New Nxt users r supposed to be attracted by selling NXT and distributing via Nxt Faucet.
4. Messaging feature will be released later to avoid situation when somebody attempts to bloat the blockchain making it too huge for newcomers.

BTW we need one more bootstrapping server, coz 2 servers is not enough.
So, if I understand this correctly:

1) the main dev (BCNext) no longer posts directly to this thread but you purport to communicate with him and speak for him about the project, something we can't confirm,
2) the deadline for contributing BTC to acquire Nxt, which was originally described as being open until the genesis block was approved by the community sometimes at least a month from now, is now suddenly declared over with no advance warning; and
3) the BTC that were already sent to acquire Nxt, which the main dev (BCNext) promised earlier in this thread not to touch until the genesis block was generated, have now been moved.


Again, do you deny that the pre-sale was closed early without advance notice to prevent dilution of existing investment, or if you prefer, do you deny that the pre-sale was closed early without advance notice to prevent dilution of existing investment?


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: td services on January 16, 2014, 09:45:07 PM


if there is no mining it is a scheme, pure and simple. No amount of words or platitude can remove the reality that ALL positions in the matrix were filled at the beginning, selling the seats is meaningless, pre notification is meaningless. If you don't mine new coins at launch, it is a scam.


Hi Johnny, looks like your text got mixed up with my quote, here it is split out.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: msin on January 16, 2014, 10:48:01 PM
Where is Ethereum? That is the definition of a scam coin.  A Pre-Mined POW made by a serial coin creator.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Chris180Z on January 16, 2014, 11:12:59 PM
Ugh, so many ill-informed people in this thread quick to jump to conclusions based on ignorance. I can't believe how many of these coins got votes. I mean, something like Peercoin for example at 7? 7 people think this is a scam coin? lol...


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: anonuser777 on January 16, 2014, 11:44:47 PM
wow QRK - Quarkcoin @ 90 (9.7%) ;/ why?

98% instamine. Don't why people keep mining this one.

Also, if USDe was on the list I'd vote for it. Billed as fair launch, then instamined. Was at about block 6000 before my client even sync'd.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: DieJohnny on January 17, 2014, 12:20:38 AM
wow QRK - Quarkcoin @ 90 (9.7%) ;/ why?

98% instamine. Don't why people keep mining this one.

Also, if USDe was on the list I'd vote for it. Billed as fair launch, then instamined. Was at about block 6000 before my client even sync'd.

ignorance and gullibility



Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: dadon on January 17, 2014, 12:51:40 AM
the new quantum computers the government has Where a classical computer would take 5 trillion years to factor a 5,000 digit number, a quantum computer could finish in 2 minutes. bitcoin is gone, quark is the future


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: disclaimer201 on January 17, 2014, 03:04:11 AM
the new quantum computers the government has Where a classical computer would take 5 trillion years to factor a 5,000 digit number, a quantum computer could finish in 2 minutes. bitcoin is gone, quark is the future

Quark is the future for the next 4 months. Then it's gone. Taken over by 51% attacks and double spendings, which it is not safe of at all, oh and by very regular computers.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on January 17, 2014, 03:44:17 AM
Do you deny that the pre-sale was closed early without advance notice to prevent dilution of existing investment?

No idea why it was closed when it was closed. It doesn't matter anyway coz the deadline for investment wasn't set.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on January 17, 2014, 03:45:37 AM
2. NXT - love the differentiation but man what a crap product and no mining of coins is a deal killer.  

Miner's mentality, hehe.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on January 17, 2014, 03:53:22 AM
According to Come-from-Beyond there was a "change in plans" from the planned January 3rd launch date.

This "change in plans" is irrelevant to the issue, coz Come-from-Beyond, just like u, confused BCNext's posts with posts of other guys. :)

U lost this train, deal with it and try to jump to Ethereum or something else...


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: td services on January 17, 2014, 05:47:32 AM
According to Come-from-Beyond there was a "change in plans" from the planned January 3rd launch date.

This "change in plans" is irrelevant to the issue, coz Come-from-Beyond, just like u, confused BCNext's posts with posts of other guys. :)

U lost this train, deal with it and try to jump to Ethereum or something else...

That's what I've been doing. I was ignoring NXT but it keeps popping up in discussions of other projects I'm following, and I'd finally had enough of it, and the claims that everyone who wanted to invest in it was allowed to. That is a lie.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: DieJohnny on January 17, 2014, 06:14:20 AM
2. NXT - love the differentiation but man what a crap product and no mining of coins is a deal killer.  

Miner's mentality, hehe.

I currently have 600 khs mining random coins. I wouldn't call myself a miner. The point of mining is that the mining launch of a coin is vastly more fair than premining or no mining. What makes a crypto currency worth owning is if you are not simply participating in someone's veiled scheme to pump their coin and dump them for 25,000 BTC in the first month they hit an exchange. Yes almost every Alt fits this category to SOME degree, a premined or no-mine coin is absolutely a farce, nobody that ever starts a premined or no-mined coin has any real plans of changing the world, only changing their own fortunes as quickly as possible.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on January 17, 2014, 06:14:41 AM
According to Come-from-Beyond there was a "change in plans" from the planned January 3rd launch date.

This "change in plans" is irrelevant to the issue, coz Come-from-Beyond, just like u, confused BCNext's posts with posts of other guys. :)

U lost this train, deal with it and try to jump to Ethereum or something else...

That's what I've been doing. I was ignoring NXT but it keeps popping up in discussions of other projects I'm following, and I'd finally had enough of it, and the claims that everyone who wanted to invest in it was allowed to. That is a lie.

Well, I see that none of us has enough arguments to prove his point, later discussion doesn't make sense.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on January 17, 2014, 06:15:50 AM
2. NXT - love the differentiation but man what a crap product and no mining of coins is a deal killer.  

Miner's mentality, hehe.

I currently have 600 khs mining random coins. I wouldn't call myself a miner. The point of mining is that the mining launch of a coin is vastly more fair than premining or no mining. What makes a crypto currency worth owning is if you are not simply participating in someone's veiled scheme to pump their coin and dump them for 25,000 BTC in the first month they hit an exchange. Yes almost every Alt fits this category to SOME degree, a premined or no-mine coin is absolutely a farce, nobody that ever starts a premined or no-mined coin has any real plans of changing the world, only changing their own fortunes as quickly as possible.

People paid bitcoins for NXT. Each bitcoin was mined. Hence for each 1 NXT people paid with PoW and electricity.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: TrueAlex on January 17, 2014, 07:26:21 AM
BTC  ;D
Premined
Speculation


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on January 17, 2014, 07:48:08 AM
BTC  ;D
Premined
Speculation

Bitcoin wasn't premined. That myth was debunked years ago.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on January 17, 2014, 07:54:15 AM
BTC  ;D
Premined
Speculation

Bitcoin wasn't premined. That myth was debunked years ago.

Congrats. U play with words at grand master level!


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: superresistant on January 17, 2014, 10:25:23 AM
The point of mining is that the mining launch of a coin is vastly more fair than premining or no mining.

Yeah mining is so fair, everyone have a mining rig. Everyone.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: schizoid on January 17, 2014, 10:57:20 AM
NXT: 100% premine + POS mining + stakeholder votes = the failed java programmer who created it will be in complete control forever, and he can steal your coins if he wants to.

MSC: The name is a blatant trademark violation and the plan is to spam the BTC blockchain. Is there anything these guys won't steal?


Title: Thread: Main
Post by: ZeroTheGreat on January 21, 2014, 09:57:41 AM
and he can steal your coins if he wants to.
How exactly? Or it's your secret?  ;D


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: superresistant on January 21, 2014, 10:16:46 AM
I just leave it there...

[ANN] NEX :: descendant of NXT - Imagine Fairness! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422052.0)


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: FrictionlessCoin on January 21, 2014, 11:00:18 PM
I just leave it there...

[ANN] NEX :: descendant of NXT - Imagine Fairness! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422052.0)


Yes,  the coin that is calling out the #2 scam coin in this list.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: superresistant on January 22, 2014, 01:56:49 PM
I just leave it there...

[ANN] NEX :: descendant of NXT - Imagine Fairness! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422052.0)


Yes,  the coin that is calling out the #2 scam coin in this list.

Why are you being paid 1 Million Nxt out of thin air ?


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: BitcoinNational on January 22, 2014, 02:42:06 PM
1KtJn967r3NdwgvHsnethXsesGmzBXjqhD

if you like scams send BTC there

and you will get absolutely 100% of nothing in return

which is about all you Doge fans are looking at down the road.

all the alts are a scam ... but then so is all of wallst  :-\

it is all religion ... got have faith


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Djentriser on January 22, 2014, 07:50:05 PM
I see these Nxt hating people are really scared. They had invested in some uninteresting pump and dump coin and they have no money left.
Every smart person would invest in Nxt, but these guys cant.
Nxt makes their coins obsolete, must be really painfull.

Could someone show me atleast one person that got scammed by Nxt?
Atleast one please!


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: superresistant on January 23, 2014, 02:50:45 PM
I see these Nxt hating people are really scared. They had invested in some uninteresting pump and dump coin and they have no money left.
Every smart person would invest in Nxt, but these guys cant.
Nxt makes their coins obsolete, must be really painfull.
Could someone show me atleast one person that got scammed by Nxt?
Atleast one please!
No these people just know that NxT is not really a cryptocurrency its like RippleScam and Mastercrapcoin
they are all "Centralized" and this is why Bitcoin was created to get away from that shit.
And for some Newbies around here... NxT, Ripple, Mastercoin is central and you can not see what they are doing with your coins as the whole code is not open source.
In other words they can steal your coins and blame the hackers.

The Nxt network is incredibly more decentralised than Bitcoin or any scryptcopycoin. Each node (client) contribute equally to security of the network, no matter the power of the machine nor the amount of coins. Also, the power consumption of a node is so low that it can be powered by solar energy.

Yes you get it. Soon, a Raspberry Pi powered by a little solar panel will produce more profit than your noisy obese scrypt mining rig.



Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: coinerer on January 24, 2014, 03:39:48 AM

Bitcoin, Doge, Moon, ... :)


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: FrictionlessCoin on January 24, 2014, 04:38:19 AM
This is the FAIR distribution (100% proof of stake) that the Nxt folks are so proud of:

http://s30.postimg.org/m6wssb175/Screen_Shot_2014_01_23_at_11_08_40_PM.png

This is a graph of the original NXT distribution.  73 accounts.

Here are the numbers:

36742
1970092
349130
24880020
2867856
9975150
2690963
7648
5486333
34913026
997515
30922966
6650
44888
2468850
49875751  <-- Did he pay in?
49875751  <-- Did he pay in?
9476393
49875751 <-- Did he pay in?
14887912
528683
583546
7315
19925363
29856290
5320
4987575
5985
24912938
49875751 <-- Did he pay in?
2724712
1482474
200999
1476156
498758
987540
16625250
5264386
15487585
2684479
14962725
34913026
5033128
2916900
49875751 <-- Did he pay in?
4962637
170486123 <--- 170 million Nxt
8644631
22166945
6668388
233751
4987575
11083556
1845403
49876
3491
3491
9476
49876
6151
682633
49875751 <-- Did he pay in?
482964
4988
49875751 <-- Did he pay in?
4988
9144
503745
49875751 <-- Did he pay in? Yup, 50million each
52370
29437998
585375
9975150

Looks like 9 guys have a lot of stake. 


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: salsacz on January 24, 2014, 04:46:10 AM
nobody owned acc with 170 mega. there were 8 original stakeholders who during 61 long IPO paid Bitcoin. Others paid less... Where is the problem? Everyone had 2 months to jump in.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: FrictionlessCoin on January 24, 2014, 04:47:36 AM
nobody owned acc with 170 mega. there were 8 original stakeholders who during 61 long IPO paid Bitcoin. Others paid less... Where is the problem? Everyone had 2 months to jump in.

The distrbution should have limited the maximum for each person.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: salsacz on January 24, 2014, 04:48:54 AM
nobody owned acc with 170 mega. there were 8 original stakeholders who during 61 long IPO paid Bitcoin. Others paid less... Where is the problem? Everyone had 2 months to jump in.

The distrbution should have limited the maximum for each person.
maximum was 1 Bitcoin. If there were 1000 people who paid 1 Bitcoin each, they would get 1 mega for 1 Bitcoin. Can you read?


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: FrictionlessCoin on January 24, 2014, 04:59:52 AM
nobody owned acc with 170 mega. there were 8 original stakeholders who during 61 long IPO paid Bitcoin. Others paid less... Where is the problem? Everyone had 2 months to jump in.

Well, here is that 170 million NXT coin account:

 http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=10105875265190846103

What is the explanation for this?


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: salsacz on January 24, 2014, 05:03:05 AM
This is the FAIR distribution (100% proof of stake) that the Nxt folks are so proud of:
170486123 <--- 170 million Nxt

Looks like 9 guys have a lot of stake. 

170 mega account didn't belong to anyone, it was used for unclaimed coins, they were being given to their owners till 3 January.

This is a real and fair Nxt distribution, do not listen to his liar.

https://i.imgur.com/Ic0UKKv.jpg


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: FrictionlessCoin on January 24, 2014, 12:18:33 PM
This is the FAIR distribution (100% proof of stake) that the Nxt folks are so proud of:
170486123 <--- 170 million Nxt

Looks like 9 guys have a lot of stake. 

170 mega account didn't belong to anyone, it was used for unclaimed coins, they were being given to their owners till 3 January.

Ok... fair enough.   The distribution is what it is.


Title: Re: Thread: Main
Post by: schizoid on January 25, 2014, 04:30:11 PM
and he can steal your coins if he wants to.
How exactly? Or it's your secret?  ;D
By calling a stakeholder vote when he has a >50% stake.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: schizoid on January 25, 2014, 04:39:19 PM
This is the FAIR distribution (100% proof of stake) that the Nxt folks are so proud of:
170486123 <--- 170 million Nxt

Looks like 9 guys have a lot of stake. 

170 mega account didn't belong to anyone, it was used for unclaimed coins, they were being given to their owners till 3 January.

This is a real and fair Nxt distribution, do not listen to his liar.

https://i.imgur.com/Ic0UKKv.jpg
Your numbers are crap. 41% of BTC are unmined and don't belong to anyone.


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: Noitev on January 25, 2014, 04:52:00 PM
This is the FAIR distribution (100% proof of stake) that the Nxt folks are so proud of:
170486123 <--- 170 million Nxt

Looks like 9 guys have a lot of stake. 

170 mega account didn't belong to anyone, it was used for unclaimed coins, they were being given to their owners till 3 January.

This is a real and fair Nxt distribution, do not listen to his liar.

https://i.imgur.com/Ic0UKKv.jpg
Your numbers are crap. 41% of BTC are unmined and don't belong to anyone.

All I can say is I hate you...


Title: Re: POLL: What are the biggest scam/sh*t coins out there?
Post by: superresistant on January 25, 2014, 08:09:28 PM
Everyone leave FrictionlessCoin alone, we've got a new champion...

Vitalik Buterin want 36 millions dollars right now !
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=428589.0