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Title: COMPARING PAPA ASIC COSTS TO BITMAIN
Post by: papamoi on December 09, 2013, 06:00:18 PM
Hi

as he has deleted my post i m copying and pasting it here:

sorry for the copy/paste

thanks


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Hmm

awfull pricing comparing my project

the wafer cost is 3k,with aprox 3k chips so their cost price is aprox 10k

and noone is interested in participating in my 65 nm at cost price

crazy folks

Because it is not open source dude. your business model is not much different than Asic one.
You get the technology with  our money invested we eventually get good praise from today point's of view and we are going probably to loose our investments from tomorrow point of view




who said it s not opensource?

i ve uploaded all the needed files for the pcb and else
Yeah like avalon competition for Open source PCB I can get the pcb and have the schematics. What i want to have is the PIC software. Have you seen a single participant who uploaded his software in competition - NO i gues same as me. The open source is Klondike project only and nothing else from my point of view.  - Speaking of The ASIC excuse my competence BUT what i mean like open source is you to publish all asic Related Files which are needed for us so that no matter how stupid we are when we go to Fabric and say for instance i wanna have this chip they to be able to produce it. Did you understand what i am up to. But you stated that this aint gona happen if I remember correctly right?



So you  think he is going to give you access to gds and the mask?

hmm
please confirm with them as i would be interested also if this is the case

No he want of course but the difference is
1. He invested own money or at least not collected from community
2. He does not claim that he is open source he is here for the businesses. No doubt about that
3. The magic word open source means nothing anymore

Can I ask you if you claim to be open why you are not giving your mask and GDS and mask to the community
I know do not answer it is NDA shit or you paid cheaper to cut the costs or million reasons which has nothing to do with opensource and most probably is a bulshit

It s simple the mask cost is higher than the 1.5 btc we are asking you to put in the project to get the chips at cost price

so you should be able to understand that the best deal in the market right now is mine i m not making money on the chips

are you not getting this?Huh


Title: Re: COMPARING PAPA ASIC COSTS TO BITMAIN
Post by: Xian01 on December 09, 2013, 07:58:27 PM
Sorry. Too busy throwing money at Bitmain right now...


Title: Re: COMPARING PAPA ASIC COSTS TO BITMAIN
Post by: miter_myles on December 09, 2013, 08:37:22 PM
Sorry. Too busy throwing money at Bitmain right now...

Same - I'm trying to feed $20 bills through my monitor but they keep getting snagged up in the back somehow..


Title: Re: COMPARING PAPA ASIC COSTS TO BITMAIN
Post by: ShadesOfMarble on December 09, 2013, 09:18:15 PM
Maybe add some quote-tags if you want people read through this.


Title: Re: COMPARING PAPA ASIC COSTS TO BITMAIN
Post by: bitterdog on December 09, 2013, 10:21:55 PM
Bitmain has a working / shipping product... you have ?????


Title: Re: COMPARING PAPA ASIC COSTS TO BITMAIN
Post by: dogie on December 09, 2013, 10:42:44 PM
Added to ignore for now. I'll check in with a few of your future posts but sounding like a crybaby. If your project was that good, it would be funded.


Title: Re: COMPARING PAPA ASIC COSTS TO BITMAIN
Post by: Xer0 on December 09, 2013, 11:35:07 PM
Bitmain has a working / shipping product... you have ?????
and the best customer service seen so far!