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is is an arbitrage strategy or/and trading bot ?

what is the initial investment , and what form should it be in ? is it money you put and trade, or money you PAY for something.

a few details are needed in this post.

this method is not about trading / arbitrage. initial investment 25$ to 50$ would be the best

just bought this method about an hour ago. it's written very well and easy to understand (step by step).

i've started with an investment of 50$ and right now i've earned 71$

will keep you updated with my earnings

happy to see people are making money  :) thank you for your review

Can you provide a vouch or a disccount for me?
If it works I will comment here and put on my signature for 1 week

Thanks

i've sent you a review copy

An autopilot method, what particular business are you dealing with?

i can't say which business, but i can say it's automated by a bot that comes with the method

It sounds good, I read the step-by-step and it's make sense
I'll post a review later

thank you, looking forward to read your review

I'd appreciate a review copy, if you're willing to get a full detailed review that will be posted by the weekend, including the set up fresh wallet addresses to track profits utilizing this method. I will be running windows on parallels on a mac.

Cheers!

Hi, looks good, could you kindly tell me more? And what is the price for me?
Thank you for your reply.

great :) i've just sent you a PM with the vouch copy. looking forward!

Hi, do not forget about me, I am also interested in your vouch copy.
Thanks!

It seems you sold some copies, but I can´t find any positive review on selly.gg, why?

sold 4 copies until now, and gave away 3 vouch copies. vouches will come in 1-2 days, depending on the reviewers

waiting for vouch reviews since I'm not sure if I can follow the guide even if it was true
the reason is that many payment processors aren't available in my country ( in case it requires a specific payment processor ) also a lot of exchanges aren't available too ( in case it involves having accounts in different exchanges for trading )

this method can be used from anywhere in the world, there are no country restrictions

I'm interested to take the 4th and last vouch copy. I will try my best to post my review within 24hrs.

Please do not send if the method is related to below list

drop shipping
gambling (auto script)
ebay, amazon, aliexpress
digital goods arbitrage
promoting ebook
CPA
PPD

did selly let you download the product? if not just send me a pm, ill send you the download link  :)

Hi.
Im very interessed , waiting for a review as soon as possible!

they will be available as soon as the hero and legendary members have tested it. 4 vouch copies are out right now

THANKS.
No way you can accept Paypal ?

I'm interested.
Waiting for reviews.

currently im only accepting crypto as payment, im sorry

do let us know. interested in trying this as well.

YES!
Please let us know if its something legit and really working.
Honest Review!

Bought it, gambling auto script will post if it works.

awesome. waiting for feedback with your experience with the scrypt.

I'm doing final tests guys, but this is real, it's working and the user is honest
I'll do a good review for him and even put in my signature to help

awesome! looking forward

SENT YOU PM!
Please reply.

replied  :)

Wow this really works and is legit. Does not need a lot of time setting up. The idea is simple and smart.

Already earned 20 bucks

great, thank you for the review. it would be nice if you could keep us updated with your earnings as well

OP . is this true ? is it a gambling script ? if so , you should edit your post and mention about the risk involved in using gambling scripts. since you won't be able to refund everybody's loss !.

this is a Dice game bot?

lol I was really hoping that this may be something worth looking into it , but as I'm reading it's another gambling script that will bust all the bankroll at some point
don't ever bother with such script , cause it's either exploit or scam and I'm sure an exploit won't be sold for 15$
save your money and search for something else

I have received a vouch copy and can confirm that it is neither an exploit or a scam. My full review will be posted this weekend with outcomes of running the script for 48 hours.

I asked for the last vouch copy but the seller didn't send to me. So I assumed the method is something from my unwanted list. I quoted my previous post with the list below.
But I may be interested to buy after Joe's review if the method is legit and risk-free. As per my experience autopilot methods are not long lasting, it ends at some point.

So my request to Joe please provide the review as detail as possible.

it's obviously a gambling auto script. one of the buyers said that, and the seller did not deny it.

hope you won't lose your money cause it doesn't worth it
I'm 100% sure that there is no gambling script that can win , no matter how long it lasts if you keep running it you will face a day that will take both your previous profit and the bankroll

will wait and see how in particular this can work , but without mathematical proof that I can make money using the method I won't spend a cent on it

I can't exactly tell if you have given away the final vouch copy of this method yet. I would be extremely interested in giving an in-depth review of the method if you are still handing out review copies. I would be able to produce a review ASAP, because I have free-time and I'm looking for a good earning strategy to add to my hand.

If you still are willing to give me that vouch copy, please shoot me a PM. I'll give it an honest try and an honest review. I will not make any judgements before I give it a chance. I noticed that somebody else has already asked for the vouch copy, but if for whatever reason you are offering an extra or do not wish to give them to copy then feel free to slide it over my way.

i've sent you the last review copy

Okay, so first of all, I know that the seller may not have wanted to disclose this, but it is a gambling script. This has already been hinted upon by another member, and I think it's fair to disclose that this is what the seller is offering.

Reviewer's Note: Because it is a gambling script, there is absolutely no guarantee of any profits. Buy this product at your own risk.

With that said, the guide and resources that is in the product is decently documented. Here is my review of the product:

Whitehat Method: Yes and no (potentially greyhat)
There is nothing illegal about this method, but it does involve downloading a program (only available for windows) to run the script that the seller is offering. The seller recommends something that may be against the terms of the gambling site/service, but it's optional, and you could potentially utilize the method without breaking any rules of the site.

Saturation: This method cannot really be saturated, as it's not an exploit or scam. The amount of people that utilize this method has no effect on its ability to pay out [potential] profits.

Scalability: This method is absolutely scalable. However, the exponential investment amount grows immensely the more you want to profit from this method. I started with an initial investment of $25 (rather than $50 as suggested by the seller) and have generated $7 profit so far (after 24 hours).

Payment Type: You do not need a bank account, and this method is not restricted by country, as fiat cash is not required. The OP recommends utilizing Bitcoin to invest (deposit) and withdraw (profit), but I used Ethereum. Most major cryptocurrencies are able to be used utilizing this method, but please note that the script that OP provides is only valid for BTC. However, I was able to convert the script from BTC to ETH and have been making mini profits on "autopilot" as OP stated in the title of this thread.

Ease of Use: If following the guide on a Windows machine, this method is surprisingly easy, and can be up and running within 10-15 minutes. I am using a Windows emulator on my Mac, and have not had any problems with installing the program and the script.

Safety: There are no viruses in the script or the program that is required to utilize this method:

https://i.imgur.com/ufplb7I.png?1

Risk Factor: Full disclosure, this is gambling. There is always a risk there. This method/script is basing its potential profits on the extremely low probability of busting. I have been running the script for 24 hours straight, and while I have been generating a profit, I know that there is a risk of busting completely. The seller has included an option to help counter this risk in his method.

Overview: While this method realizes the ability to profit from your investment, there is no guarantee, and there is [minimal] risk involved. If I had known that this was a gambling script, I honestly would not have had interest in reviewing this product. But I will continue to keep the script running and provide updates periodically.

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Edit: added a disclaimer to the header of my post.

does he provide any +EV method ?? or is it just a way of martingale with low chance of busting ?
if the script worked even for a week that doesn't mean that it's good and it can make you money , if the EV isn't positive that means you are wasting your time and your money both on the script and the gambling bankroll

I have received my review copy and have given it a quick glance through. I just read Joe's review, and so I will attempt to touch base on anything that they have not. I've got to give the method and honest chance, because normally I roll my eyes and do not bother with these kind of things, but I said I would give it a fair review and that's what I plan to do.

I will not be violating any terms on any websites, so if it is unable to be converted into an acceptable format then that is where my journey will end. I'm sure I will be able to make it work, as Joe has played with the settings somewhat themselves. I will probably make the $50 investment as suggested and allow it to run it's course.

It sounds like you are playing with chance, but without risk there is no reward. There is a method for securing the profits that may be the saving grace for this strategy. It is extremely simple, but it is something that most people overlook and it costs them dearly.

A lot of people have a lot to say, about EV+, about these scripts, about busting eventually. All of these things can be controlled for and overcome. Busting eventually isn't a problem if you aren't busting beyond your profit. Control yourself, your betting and follow some simple rules and you can profit. EV+ makes things basically guaranteed, and is pretty rare to find..

Thanks for the Virus scan Joe, that kind of stuff always freaks me out before I click and sometimes I don't have the resources on me to run a good scan.

I didn't want to put OP on blast, but this is indeed a martingale strategy with a low chance of busting. I should have included an "originality" clause in my review that states that this is not original by any means. But as @bill gator has mentioned, patience is the name of the game. Greed will lead to busting. But if you follow the method and recommendations in the method as outlined by OP, there are steps you can take to protect yourself from a total loss in the extremely low probability that you bust.

But it is gambling, and as long as there is a risk, however small, there is a chance to lose. I've been running this script now for over 24 hours and haven't busted. I'm going to continue to follow OP's advice, and I will now deposit BTC and utilize his method in the full way that it was intended (rather than utilizing ETH as I have been).

Cheers.

man it's not about how much time the bot will last , I can literally give you an auto bet setup that may last for weeks without busting
the real question here  does this method provides a +EV or not ?? if it's not +EV then it's a total waste of time and it's scam

if it's working for 24 hours that doesn't mean it's profitable , it's mathematically proven martingale doesn't work in the long term

It certainly is about how much time the bot will last. You are looking at the situation from a strictly black and white perspective, as if the only way to ever profit through gambling games is with a positive EV. There are other alternatives, because martingale doesn't work long-term if you allow it to bust your entire balance. If you put down an initial investment of $25 and the system profits $35 before "busting" your initial $25, then you've profited $10 and still have your profit. This is just a simple example, but there are ways to mitigate the risks being posed through a martingale system. Allow the system to run it's course, we'll share our subjective experiences as time passes and we will let the system speak for itself.

guys you are clearly not gamblers both you and BTCforJoe , I can clearly see from your post that you don't know what you are talking about

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in gambling without +EV you can't make money , you are doing a wrong vouch if you don't understand this concept and I don't want you to mislead the newbies since both of you are trusted members

yes you may win one , two , ten times ...etc but if you keep repeating the same method everyday you will end up losing more than what you won in the previous days


I'm not against martingale , but when someone is selling a method and promising that it can make money then that's a pure scam and you are helping him with doing that btw

Yes you can. You are wrong.


Nobody has "vouched" for the method. Joe gave a review, and all I've said so far is that I plan to do a review. I understand the concept of EV perfectly well, but even if I didn't I would still have the capability of knowing whether or not this method has personally made me any profit. Literally nothing that I have said has been misleading. You seem especially worked up for no particular reason, maybe you've done some bad martingales in the past.


I guess we'll see, won't we? I've known plenty of martingale traders within Forex and other markets that have been trading successfully for years. Raising a family on the money they're able to bring in, exclusively from martingale trading. There is correct ways to do it.


I disagree. If you're not against it, then what is your point? They're selling a method that goes beyond simply martingale betting, and they directly address the fact that you will bust eventually. If you believe that you be a scam, then so be it. I'm going to give it a fair shake, see how it goes and let my own experience speak for itself.

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You're right about one thing though, and that's the fact that I am not a gambler. I know the terms, my family was in the business at one point in time and I've invested in some projects. I think the fact that I am not a gambler will probably make it easier for me to approach the method with a fresh pair of eyes. It's not the most unique or innovative strategy, but again, there is no reason to judge it prior to trying it.

ok bill good luck , let it run for a week or two and let's see how it will end
I just hope that newbies or people who are new to gambling won't be fooled by the title and the comments here

again selling martingale when the title Says Make 25$-125$ daily is a scam

Forex is different. You're not fighting a house edge. It's kinda like sportsbetting, where you can beat the edge and play +EV if you're good at it. Dice games/bustabit (I assume the method uses one of those?) are almost always -EV, and mathematically, you will go bankrupt.


Only in the short term. You can change your seed, make a new account, etc, but that's not going to change mathematics.

thanks for you honest review :)

great to see that there are people that use their brain before shouting "scam" :)

please let us know your results if you have finished your tests. thank you

Then I suppose my job here is to find out how short that term is. Testing my luck, since it is a gambling method after all. I've got it set up and running, and after looking into everything it does appear that the mathematics are working against this method. That being said, if you're looking for a bit of a "gamble" with the term that it will last you for, then it'll probably have a fun run.


I certainly have not finished my tests. There are a bunch of red-flags within this method, and the only thing I am hoping for is that my luck is better than everyone is suggesting it will be. Even if I am able to profit, I am not sure how glowing the review will be.

that's exactly what I'm trying to tell you and hope Darkstar made it clear since it seems you don't trust my words
even in short term mathematically you are losing money , that's why I'm against selling such scripts cause it's not a real product that buyers can benefit from and you aren't only risking the 15$ you are also risking your capital that you are betting with

if you follow my threads I pay around 300 euros a month for tipsters and I'm more than ok with paying it , but I know that the money I'm spending will generate me more money in the long run since I follow tipsters with proven +EV past

this method will only cost you to lose money since it's -EV

That certainly isn't the case. I am not trying to come across as if I do not trust your words. I just think there is some miscommunication going on, due to the fact that we are limited by the medium we are communicating through. I do trust your words, and you certainly know more about gambling than I do. I just wanted to give it a try for myself without any pre-judgement. I understand that mathematics are against this method in an EV sense, but even that comes down to luck to an extent.

I understand where you guys are coming from, and my vouch certainly won't include phrases like "this will work for everyone" or "guaranteed profit". I'm going to be realistic, but I'm interested to see how feasible this is for someone like me that doesn't have experience doing this sort of thing.


I'm very pressed for time recently, but if you would be willing to PM me some more information on your techniques, strategies and who you follow that would be very helpful. I'm interested in what you're talking about, because it sounds like you've got a mathematical advantage. Tipsters though, can change their EV rather quickly, can't they?

I have spent over a year of my life to find a solid script for bustabit even tried to develop a solid script only for my use.

I have used uncountable bustabit scripts, free, paid and the one I developed with my own strategy.
Do you want to know the end result? The result was ZERO... nothing saved me from busting, I've lost all my bankroll most of the time when I was sleeping.

The highest amount I earned with my own script was 90k bits in one day when I was testing the script, I deposited only 10k bits.
I could have exited with that profit, but I didn't stop the script because I had to check the longevity of the script. After about 25-27hrs maybe I've lost all 90k bits in just 30 minutes.
I was sitting & watching how I'm losing my entire bankroll by putting my thumb in my mouth.  >:(  :(

So in my experience, nothing can save you in long run.

That's why I mentioned not to send me the vouch copy if it is gambling script when I asked for the vouch.

Still I consider my script as the best one, but still I afraid to use it.

Any system that has a nonzero chance of busting is bound to fail sooner rather than later, resulting in you losing all your money. There is mathematically no chance of winning long term with such a system, even with zero house edge. As long as the chance of "busting" exists, it is mathematically a martingale system and any claims to the contrary (including "mitigating risks") are bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(betting_system)

As has already been mentioned in this thread, the only way for gambling to make money is to have positive EV, and I can't see such a method being sold for anything less than multiple BTC in value.

As I said earlier though, the method directly addresses the fact that you will bust eventually. That's why I'm trying my luck and seeing if the strategy is enough, in my case, for me to profit and hold me over for awhile. Of course there is a factor of luck and the mathematics are against you, but if that "short-term" is long enough for you to do what this guide suggests to minimize the damage of a bust, control the bust, etc. then you may be okay.

It's just a cheap little $15 method, and it's honest about what it is offering. There's a script involved, but everything seems to be legitimate from a TOS and legal point of view. I don't see anything wrong with giving it a try, and seeing if their method for handling a bust is feasible.

You can't control the bust. Read up on Gambler's fallacy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy), as that's the exact belief you seem to have. Each bet is independent, and there is no way to change math. Past results have no effect on future results, so any vouches for the method would be useless anyway.
Dooglus did the math a few years ago on figuring out the best way to double your money, and the best he found with a 1% house edge was a 49.652% chance. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=939776.msg10529739#msg10529739) This method claims to be able to ∞% your money with a 100% chance.


It's not. It's claiming you can make 25$ to 125$ every day, and that it's guaranteed. Nothing is guaranteed in gambling, and especially trying to bet against a house edge. EDGE_NXTAE (https://www.bustabit.com/user/EDGE_NXTAE), a bot that played proven +EV bets on bustabit was down 2 BTC at one point. OP's method plays -EV bets, but somehow can win with a 100% chance? You can try all you want, but with a -EV, you are expected to lose 1% (if you play against a 1% edge) of your bet, every time that you bet.

I'm not trying to say that you can control the bust, and you're probably right that this method will yield no profit long-term. I am saying, that you can plan for the bust. As long as there is no misconception that you will bust all of your money in your account when an unlucky string of losses comes around that is mathematically guaranteed at some point.


I'll do some more reading up on that 49.652%, but that sounds more arbitrary than conclusively subjective (without doing the reading to formulate an informed opinion).


Went back to OP to double check the wording used, and I agree that it is misleading. They do say "guaranteed" multiple times in their OP "Guaranteed High Profits", "Guaranteed profit within an hour". Doing the method as explained, exactly as it is written only earned me 3,000 Satoshi within an hour of allowing it to operate. I just as easily could have lost the $50 they initially suggest to deposit, though. So the risk-reward ratio in the beginning is not impressive, to say the least.


Being +EV and being down 2BTC should allow you to see that it could just as easily end up the other way. The bot could do -EV and be up 2BTC just as easily as the first bot playing on +EV was down 2BTC. It is simply a flimsy representation of the expected outcome over an endless amount of games/bets/rolls. Not something worth staking your life on.

anyways I think we all now understood the situation , and we all agree that this script is BS
as I said at the beginning , I'm not against selling betting scripts but when the OP is saying that it's a guarnateed method to make money passively then that's a big NO and it's clearly a scam try

I've received private messages from two individuals that have purchased this method here that have busted. They didn't want to post publicly, probably out of embarrassment, but they both wanted to know how my bot was still running for as long as it was...

I'm not a gambler; I don't know what I'm doing with this script, but I had run it for 3 days non-stop, and I was able to pull out my initial investment of $25 plus the $15 I would have spent for it if I actually purchased this product from OP.

Then I noticed that my settings that I'd been using were slightly different than the one that is being sold by OP here. I had modified them slightly to cater to my Ethereum deposit (vs. the recommended Bitcoin), so the settings I was using were actually unknowingly personalized, NOT equal to the settings that OP had included in his script. I then proceeded to change the settings to match the ones that were recommended by OP (matching the script that he had provided), and within an hour and half after letting the script run, I busted.

With that said, I have provided updates as I said I would, and cannot and will not "vouch" for this product. You're not purchasing a viable product that can realize profits via skill or knowledge, but one that relies on sheer luck and chance in order to realize them.

As I stated in my review of this method, buy this at your own risk. There is absolutely no "guarantee" that you will win from this.

@OP, please remove my quote from your original post. What you have quoted is not a vouch, nor a review. If anything, you should provide a link to my actual review of your product.

Nothing that you should be ashamed of, because with a method such as this it is expected to bust at some point. I've actually been looking at the "stats" page on the bot and it is not comforting. I repeatedly am getting bad streaks that are dancing extremely close to busting my balance. It just seems to be pure luck that I have avoided busting at this point. If my longest win streak were reversed to a losing streak then my balance would be busted.


At least you were able to pull out everything that was, and would have been, invested into this method. So at least in your experience, the idea worked, even if you are using an altered script and different settings. I would be pretty interested in hearing which settings you had changed that produced even better results. Maybe you've got an eye for this sort of thing, maybe you just got lucky, but it seems rather bad luck that after switching to the original everything went south.


Yeah, and with it being so contingent upon luck it would seem equally as effective to simply "feel it out" and roll the dice whichever way "feels" right.


There is almost a guarantee in the opposite direction, if we're being honest. It is much more likely that you lose your deposit and $15 spend for purchasing the method than it is that you walk away with short-term or long-term gains from this method. There will be an extremely lucky soul (hopefully me) that is able to make it work for longer than they should be able to, but realistically there is no "guarantee". OP has been a little misleading, by claiming it is guaranteed, and this is quite offputting.

I lost all my 100 bucks just right now. In the past 5 days I follow all of the methods and configures by seller and keep running 3-4 hours per day.
The highest record was made 70 bucks in 3 hours. The only question is really easy to busting. 2-3 times per day.
That is it.

Made an account to reply on this

bought the method
but i went bust very fast.

I really hope someone can help me make this last longer/work a bit better

there is no way to make money with this method , please read the previous posts in this thread
the best thing to do is to stop at this point , you lost a certain amount of money + the script cost so don't try to recover what you already lost cause you will end up losing more and more

I'll try to keep my review short and sweet. It seems like we pretty much have all come to the same conclusion about this method.

I appreciate dBox.io allowing me the opportunity to review their method.

The E-book is 4-pages long. It contains a single method. The method that is contained within this E-book is not unique. It is a strategy that many people are familiar with and if you read through the thread I'm sure you can figure out exactly what it is. The math is against you, and unless you are extremely lucky you will not profit. There are multiple users that claim they have lost all of their money within the first couple hours of beginning the method. The strategy is a gambling script with a couple of ideas for attempting to alleviate the problems of losing your money. It requires a starting investment that you are likely to lose, unfortunately. I personally have not lost my money yet, but I have stopped running the script after earning $10, because of the likelihood of crashing all my funds. As I said, the mathematics are extremely against this method and unless you feel like gambling then I wouldn't suggest this. If you do feel like gambling, then why do it with a bot?

It's unfortunate that this method ended you up with negative feedback, but you made some promises that were untrue and this method certainly just seems like a re-packed version of many other E-books.

there is no product at all and there is a false promise of making fixed amount of money daily , he does deserve a negative feedback
if someone want gambling methods I can give you a lot for free , and of course I will tell you that all the methods I gave you aren't profitable in the end

so for people who want to try their luck with gambling methods feel free to PM me or just ask anyone in a gambling site chat about a system of betting and I'm sure all will give you the info for free

This product is martingale. I lost my deposit. In the description, the author promises to return the money. I wrote to the author 2 times and asked for a refund, but he ignores me and does not return the money. I conclude that the author is a fraudster.

I've been receiving messages from people asking for my strategy/revisions to this script. I WILL NOT PROVIDE YOU WITH THIS INFORMATION, SO PLEASE STOP ASKING

I do not support gambling as a method of "earning", and in no way will be involved with your potential losses, so please stop asking me for my assistance.

OP, as I've previously requested, please remove my "vouch" from your top post.

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