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Title: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: joeventura on December 11, 2013, 07:06:27 PM
From Josh:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html


First Chips Jan 9th

Slicing and Dicing of Chips Jan 16th

Testing and Firmware Jan 23rd

Mounting of Chips on boards Jan 30th

then shipping can begin.


In the past, not once has BFL and its suppliers been able to accomplish any of the tasks listed above in a week.


Still being quoted at:
https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage-new-products/600-gh-bitcoin-mining-card.html

"However, this is our second generation, so we have much greater clarity on the process and we feel our timeline to begin shipments towards the end of the year is solid"


My opinion, based on past performance is expect day 1 orders in March.



Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: ipxtreme on December 11, 2013, 07:08:33 PM
deja-vu. someone please wake me up from this nightmare....


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: Xian01 on December 11, 2013, 07:22:07 PM
deja-vu. someone please wake me up from this nightmare....

 Happy Monarch pre-order customer, I take it ?


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: whisper on December 11, 2013, 07:25:05 PM
Haha where is a bet link


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: ipxtreme on December 11, 2013, 07:26:19 PM
deja-vu. someone please wake me up from this nightmare....

 Happy Monarch pre-order customer, I take it ?

Not at all. I learned my lesson from first pre-order from this company.


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: Xian01 on December 11, 2013, 07:28:09 PM
Not at all. I learned my lesson from first pre-order from this company.

 ;)


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: Syke on December 11, 2013, 07:32:39 PM
Nobody reads the forums. You have to go by the product page:

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November / December    Initial Shipping

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Our 28nm competitors have never delivered

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Since this is our 2nd generation ASIC chip, we're largely free of risk from the pitfalls normally associated with a new chip design.

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Shipped more ASIC than all competitors combined


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: xstr8guy on December 11, 2013, 07:43:24 PM
Nobody reads the forums. You have to go by the product page:

Quote
November / December    Initial Shipping

Quote
Our 28nm competitors have never delivered

Quote
Since this is our 2nd generation ASIC chip, we're largely free of risk from the pitfalls normally associated with a new chip design.

Quote
Shipped more ASIC than all competitors combined


Sounds like that should have been posted on KNC's site not BFL, lol.


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: ipxtreme on December 11, 2013, 07:47:13 PM
Nobody reads the forums. You have to go by the product page:

Quote
November / December    Initial Shipping

Quote
Our 28nm competitors have never delivered

Quote
Since this is our 2nd generation ASIC chip, we're largely free of risk from the pitfalls normally associated with a new chip design.

Quote
Shipped more ASIC than all competitors combined


Sounds like that should have been posted on KNC's site not BFL, lol.

+1


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: joeventura on December 11, 2013, 11:13:05 PM
Haha where is a bet link

There is nobody stupid enough to bet in favor.

Unless Josh is lurking about.....




Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: testerx on December 11, 2013, 11:16:40 PM
Other than the people who were stuck in preorder hell from the first generation who in their right mind would have ordered a monarch?!?


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: joeventura on December 11, 2013, 11:55:16 PM
I hope KNCs 20nm chip is in hand before the BFL 28nm sees the light.

At this rate I'd say KNC has a good shot even if they dont make Q1


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: Bogart on December 12, 2013, 01:05:57 AM
Haha where is a bet link

There is nobody stupid enough to bet in favor.

Unless Josh is lurking about.....

Even if he bets he'll just welch on it when he loses:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191600.0


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: dlasher on December 12, 2013, 08:57:16 AM


Depends on how deep the queue depth is... KNC & Cointerra are selling out devices that won't ship till April or May as we speak, in the $3-4/GH range. Hardware that ships in March at $6-8/GH could still be profitable.. perhaps.


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: Bicknellski on December 12, 2013, 10:16:23 AM
What happened to the original timeline that they removed. Did they somehow magically find a way to cut nearly 3 months off that plan? Or are they just doing creative timeline management again? Or because they were supposed to deliver what was it again? August tape out and December delivery? Amazing how 4 months disappears.

15 weeks total from tape out or nearly 4 months. Let us be generous and say they have completed tape out. No proof or statement yet to that effect.

Dec
Jan
Feb
Mar

If it is before March that be a surprise. My guess summer.







Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: PuertoLibre on December 12, 2013, 10:48:23 AM
BFL, always consistent with delays and doublespeak.

Rich customers going poor? At this point anyone who ordered the Monarch deserves the delay.

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Are they going to roll the first batch from November into the February/March batch? Or did February and March also get pushed back into infinity and beyond?


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: Unacceptable on December 12, 2013, 10:57:32 AM
Come on guys....give em a break....BFL said they learned a lesson or two from the last generations they screwed up  :D

Remember,as Josh once said "ASIC's are hard"  ;D


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: ninjaboon on December 12, 2013, 12:45:47 PM
I'll never buy from BFL anymore.


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: Bicknellski on December 12, 2013, 01:08:37 PM
I'll never buy from BFL anymore.

You on the NBBA (Never Buy BFL Again) 12 Step Program?


1   We admitted we were powerless over buying BFL the first time and that our lives had become unmanageable.
2   I'll never buy from BFL anymore.
3   I'll never buy from BFL anymore.
4   I'll never buy from BFL anymore.
5   I'll never buy from BFL anymore.
6   I'll never buy from BFL anymore.
7   I'll never buy from BFL anymore.
8   I'll never buy from BFL anymore.
9   I'll never buy from BFL anymore.
10   I'll never buy from BFL anymore.
11   I'll never buy from BFL anymore.
12   I'll never buy from BFL anymore.


Title: Re: BFL Monarch Update Shipping of first device now Feb 2014
Post by: rograz on December 12, 2013, 01:20:35 PM
Let's see if BFL can deliver something before KNC gets their neptunes out, at this rate it looks quite good for KNC ;p