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Title: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: beetcoin on December 11, 2013, 09:41:50 PM
seriously.. i just got an e-mail from them asking for donations (probably because i sent them $15 about a year ago). they're asking for my money, when i know they could earn quite a bit of that from accepting bitcoins.. but they just won't do it. it seems like there are lots and lots of people waiting in line to donate them BTC, but they just won't accept it.. yet they continue asking for fiat.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: jackjack on December 11, 2013, 09:54:09 PM
http://www.blogcdn.com/downloadsquad.switched.com/media/2011/01/jimmywalespleading.jpg


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: TheJacob on December 11, 2013, 10:49:29 PM
I'm more sick of these threads than I am their begging for money.

If you want to give them money just give them money. Quit asking them to help you promote BTC.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: ajax3592 on December 11, 2013, 11:07:41 PM
I don't think they do any wrong if they ask for some donations.
It's the largest fucking encyclopedia of the world! And the don't do much ads too.
They have been a source of much of my knowledge.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: beetcoin on December 12, 2013, 07:35:14 AM
i wasn't clear about that.. i don't have a problem with wikipedia soliciting for donations. but it's just that they are too dumb or lazy to actually try out BTC. i mean they could get it converted to fiat easily, but they still won't do it.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 12, 2013, 09:22:15 AM
i wasn't clear about that.. i don't have a problem with wikipedia soliciting for donations. but it's just that they are too dumb or lazy to actually try out BTC. i mean they could get it converted to fiat easily, but they still won't do it.

I was an active user in Wikipedia for the past many many years. I had more than 30,000 edits to my name. From 2011, most of the sections in Wikipedia were under the control of organized cabals. I wrote to Jimmy Wales many times warning against this. But many of the users who voiced against this were later banned. In the section I was following, the leader of the Cabal was from Manchester, known by his alibi "Simon Tushingham". Despite this guy committing all sorts of one-sided edits, Wales supported him. Tushingham frequently bragged in Wikipedia that he regularly talked to Wales in his cell phone and were good friends in real life. I had enough and quit Wikipedia in 2011. I know many more who did the same.

Wikipedia is similar to a ponzi scheme. They publicized themselves as a "free" and "unbiased" online encyclopedia. Once they had enough following, they kicked out the old users and showed their true colors.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: Wipeout2097 on December 12, 2013, 11:26:53 AM
Don't use it, then ...

Obviously, Wikipedia is not the place to learn if you're after some ideologically loaded topics. Otherwise it's fine


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 12, 2013, 04:40:24 PM

Maybe Jimmy should come up with a sobstory about he needs to buy his daughter a laptop or how somebody broke in and stole his Christmas presents or something, maybe that'd work.



Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: Haidang1796 on December 12, 2013, 06:26:14 PM
Don't use it, then ...

Obviously, Wikipedia is not the place to learn if you're after some ideologically loaded topics. Otherwise it's fine
So True


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: Ecurb123 on December 12, 2013, 07:26:12 PM
Really I don't mind, they do a great job and only ask for donations. At least they don't send a bill to my house and threaten to hurt me if I don't pay, if they did that, then I'd be annoyed.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: TheFootMan on December 12, 2013, 08:57:39 PM
i wasn't clear about that.. i don't have a problem with wikipedia soliciting for donations. but it's just that they are too dumb or lazy to actually try out BTC. i mean they could get it converted to fiat easily, but they still won't do it.

I was an active user in Wikipedia for the past many many years. I had more than 30,000 edits to my name. From 2011, most of the sections in Wikipedia were under the control of organized cabals. I wrote to Jimmy Wales many times warning against this. But many of the users who voiced against this were later banned. In the section I was following, the leader of the Cabal was from Manchester, known by his alibi "Simon Tushingham". Despite this guy committing all sorts of one-sided edits, Wales supported him. Tushingham frequently bragged in Wikipedia that he regularly talked to Wales in his cell phone and were good friends in real life. I had enough and quit Wikipedia in 2011. I know many more who did the same.

Wikipedia is similar to a ponzi scheme. They publicized themselves as a "free" and "unbiased" online encyclopedia. Once they had enough following, they kicked out the old users and showed their true colors.

Is it just me or does it seem like all organizations turns into a den of snakes.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: Corazon79 on December 13, 2013, 03:26:29 PM
Wikipedia was probably a CFR/NSA/CIA front from the very beginning.

The whole premise of the site is to mix factual trivia with the many 'Big Lies' in falsified history, including major government black ops like the fake 9/11, 7/7, Madrid, Norway, Boston marathon and Sandy Hook terror or serial shooting attacks.

Wikipedia is clearly aligned with the global fascist government drive. It appeared out of nowhere with massive bandwidth and server resources, with no adequate explanation of how it secured these. It continues to report fully debunked and discredited falsified events as real, to aid the UN plans for gun control, free trade open borders, international socialism on steroids, the attack on Christianity, attack on the family etc.

I understand that only reference links from the likes of the BBC, Reuters, AP and CNN are permissable on Wikipedia now. In other words, Wikipedia is nothing more than an echo chamber for the SIX companies that control the global media. Most of the editors are university professors, doctors, economists, civil servants, teachers etc. who are Fabian socialists. The site is a complete joke.

Personally I reckon it's time for a true anarchist/libertarian version of Wikipedia.



Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: greyhawk on December 13, 2013, 03:33:40 PM
They have been a source of much of my knowledge.

My condolences.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 13, 2013, 03:38:29 PM
Wikipedia was probably a CFR/NSA/CIA front from the very beginning.

The whole premise of the site is to mix factual trivia with the many 'Big Lies' in falsified history, including major government black ops like the fake 9/11, 7/7, Madrid, Norway, Boston marathon and Sandy Hook terror or serial shooting attacks.

Wikipedia is clearly aligned with the global fascist government drive. It appeared out of nowhere with massive bandwidth and server resources, with no adequate explanation of how it secured these. It continues to report fully debunked and discredited falsified events as real, to aid the UN plans for gun control, free trade open borders, international socialism on steroids, the attack on Christianity, attack on the family etc.

I understand that only reference links from the likes of the BBC, Reuters, AP and CNN are permissable on Wikipedia now. In other words, Wikipedia is nothing more than an echo chamber for the SIX companies that control the global media. Most of the editors are university professors, doctors, economists, civil servants, teachers etc. who are Fabian socialists. The site is a complete joke.

Personally I reckon it's time for a true anarchist/libertarian version of Wikipedia.



http://www.sabinabecker.com/media/alex-jones-hotdog.jpg

How do you know Bitcoin isn't a CFR/NSA/CIA front?

http://images.dangerousminds.net/uploads/afiles/jonesALEXjdjdjd9.jpg


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: Corazon79 on December 13, 2013, 04:12:10 PM
Very funny. I had a feeling somebody would do that. Do you refute that Sandy Hook was a fake serial shooting?

Or that the Boston marathon attack was a false flag carried out by NATO, the World Bank, Homeland Security, Israeli Mossad (Max Brenner/Strauss Israel/IDF Leadership School), Jardine Matheson, Mayor's Office, Rotary Club, Harvard Medical School etc.

The latter has been totally deconstructed but it seems Wikipedia supports the official government version of events still.

Can you provide an explanation of that, beyond posting images of Alex Jones?


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 13, 2013, 04:24:42 PM
Very funny. I had a feeling somebody would do that. Do you refute that Sandy Hook was a fake serial shooting?

Or that the Boston marathon attack was a false flag carried out by NATO, the World Bank, Homeland Security, Israeli Mossad (Max Brenner/Strauss Israel/IDF Leadership School), Jardine Matheson, Mayor's Office, Rotary Club, Harvard Medical School etc.

The latter has been totally deconstructed but it seems Wikipedia supports the official government version of events still.

Can you provide an explanation of that, beyond posting images of Alex Jones?

Yes, I do refute all of the above, unless you can convince me otherwise. What evidence do you have that Sandy Hook was a 'fake' shooting, or Boston Bombing was a false flag attack carried out by Nato etc? And what was the reasons for them?

Also:

http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g452/allisinthepass/notsure.jpg


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: BitcoinBarrel on December 13, 2013, 04:27:53 PM
Wikipedia is great for things that have nothing to do with anything that matters. For instance, I'd check Wikipedia for facts about Kites or Mosh Pits.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: Corazon79 on December 13, 2013, 10:16:44 PM
Yes, I do refute all of the above, unless you can convince me otherwise. What evidence do you have that Sandy Hook was a 'fake' shooting, or Boston Bombing was a false flag attack carried out by Nato etc? And what was the reasons for them?
It's not rocket science. The only way this current bankrupt system may continue in north America, is by turning the average American citizen or resident into a 'terrorist.' This translates to billions of dollars spent on high tech security equipment (vendors who just happen to be part of Homeland Security itself), and the opportunity to levy all sorts of spurious fines, fees and extra charges, to keep the machine going for as long as possible before the final collapse.

The reason for all the false flags is that there is NO real terrorist threat, so the government has to fabricate it. It's called psychological warfare. Wikipedia is part of the same psychological warfare outfit.

If you're interested to know more and have a weekend to spare, check out cluesforum.info.

"American people don't believe anything until they see it on television.” Richard M. Nixon


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: stompix on December 14, 2013, 12:16:22 AM
Isn't begging when you ask for money while you are not giving anything back in return?
I'm not sure Wikipedia is like that.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 14, 2013, 09:57:05 AM
Yes, I do refute all of the above, unless you can convince me otherwise. What evidence do you have that Sandy Hook was a 'fake' shooting, or Boston Bombing was a false flag attack carried out by Nato etc? And what was the reasons for them?
It's not rocket science. The only way this current bankrupt system may continue in north America, is by turning the average American citizen or resident into a 'terrorist.' This translates to billions of dollars spent on high tech security equipment (vendors who just happen to be part of Homeland Security itself), and the opportunity to levy all sorts of spurious fines, fees and extra charges, to keep the machine going for as long as possible before the final collapse.

The reason for all the false flags is that there is NO real terrorist threat, so the government has to fabricate it. It's called psychological warfare. Wikipedia is part of the same psychological warfare outfit.

If you're interested to know more and have a weekend to spare, check out cluesforum.info.

"American people don't believe anything until they see it on television.” Richard M. Nixon


I agree with you that there is little-to-no worry for terrorist threats, and that the general public are easily mislead by the media, but you need some evidence other than pure speculation and assumption. Not everything is a conspiracy. Sometimes people just like to shoot and kill and blow each other up.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 20, 2013, 02:58:17 PM
Personally I reckon it's time for a true anarchist/libertarian version of Wikipedia.

A lot of people are currently trying. I have heard that Metapedia has improved quite a lot these days. Have idea about any other alternate Wiki sites?


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 20, 2013, 03:03:41 PM
Personally I reckon it's time for a true anarchist/libertarian version of Wikipedia.

A lot of people are currently trying. I have heard that Metapedia has improved quite a lot these days. Have idea about any other alternate Wiki sites?

What's to stop that not being taken over? When anything is open and free to use it's also free and easy to exploit it for your own gain.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 21, 2013, 01:51:34 PM
What's to stop that not being taken over? When anything is open and free to use it's also free and easy to exploit it for your own gain.

Wikipedia had millions of volunteers, who had varying levels of knowledge in various subjects. It is not that easy to assemble that kind of editors for any other alternate Wiki site.

And it can't be taken over. The new Wikipedia admins are mostly selected by the owner and the existing admins, who are biased. People who don't agree with their policies can't become an admin. 


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: ElectricMucus on December 21, 2013, 07:12:23 PM
http://buttcoin.org/stop-donating-wikipedia

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If you’ve browsed Wikipedia for any length of time, you’re certainly familiar by now with the site’s periodic donation drives. In order to cover hosting and bandwidth costs without slathering every page in advertisements, the Wikimedia Foundation asks that its users donate as little as $3 to help the site continue to bring to the world its extensive knowledge of the minutiae of anime plots and lightsaber combat. As the site manages massive amounts of traffic, these drives are fairly frequent now, leading to what very well could be the mating call of the bitcoiner:

“Wikipedia should accept donations in Bitcoin!”

Every time a donation drive starts up, bitcoiners, especially those on reddit, drive themselves into a frenzy, pestering the website’s beleaguered administrative team via email and other messages, hounding them to take Bitcoin instead of things like credit cards or PayPal. This is rebuffed every single time with what has become a form letter:

    Thanks for your email and for your interest in supporting free knowledge. Unfortunately we do not accept bitcoin, however, we are aware of bitcoin and we will continue to monitor it with interest. For a full list of other donation options, please visit http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give/en. Thank you again for your interest!

For anyone who’s worked with the public, especially a segment of the public that is convinced that terrible ideas are in fact good, this is a pretty standard brush-off, meant to fool the recipient into thinking someone cares about their stupid ideas and that they may even be implemented some time in the near future. The reality is that nobody will do anything remotely close to something like “accepting Bitcoin,” “adding the requested feature” to software, or letting your WoW character have every spell in the game. It’s a meaningless message, meant to placate and nothing more.

Regardless, bitcoiners see this as a promise as well as a challenge, and often their subreddit is inundated with posts about Wikipedia as a result. Since they’re so intent on having Wikipedia take their funny money, we looked a little further into the situation.

So far every drive has been successful, and recent donation amounts totaled over $15 million, and according to the Wikimedia Foundation, the average donation was approximately $22. So, if Wikipedia were to directly accept Bitcoin donations, how much more would they stand to earn? As it turns out, not much at all.

In a ridiculously informal and totally unscientific poll, I discovered that the same bitcoiners clamoring for Wikipedia to take their money don’t want to give them much money at all, if anything. Answers ranged from the equivalent of a couple of dollars, with at least two people regurgitating South Park’s “tree fiddy” meme, one stipulating that Wikipedia could have ten entire bitcoins if they “apologize for being wankers about the whole thing,” and many more insisted that Wikipedia no longer deserves their “money” for giving them the cold shoulder for so long. The combined amount from people willing to answer my question comes up to about $23.01.  It took six people’s “generosity” to equal that of one average Wikipedian donator. Most of them wouldn’t donate at all; it’s all just grandstanding to proselytize for their cult.

That doesn’t stop them from sounding like a broken record every few months though:


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 21, 2013, 07:25:00 PM
http://buttcoin.org/stop-donating-wikipedia

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In a ridiculously informal and totally unscientific poll, I discovered that the same bitcoiners clamoring for Wikipedia to take their money don’t want to give them much money at all, if anything. Answers ranged from the equivalent of a couple of dollars, with at least two people regurgitating South Park’s “tree fiddy” meme, one stipulating that Wikipedia could have ten entire bitcoins if they “apologize for being wankers about the whole thing,” and many more insisted that Wikipedia no longer deserves their “money” for giving them the cold shoulder for so long. .

Hahahahaha. Lold.

https://i.imgur.com/bZlnpd3.jpg


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: DodoB on December 21, 2013, 08:08:19 PM
why cant wikipedia simply put ads in their sites? they will make loads of money and will stop begging.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 21, 2013, 08:25:48 PM
why cant wikipedia simply put ads in their sites? they will make loads of money and will stop begging.

I've always wondered this, but maybe it's about remaining independent and blah blah blah etc. They could easily implement some unobtrusive google ads, or put links to buy albums or films via amazon on album/film pages etc and take commission. They can also still accept donations.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 22, 2013, 01:51:07 PM
why cant wikipedia simply put ads in their sites? they will make loads of money and will stop begging.

No. It is against their policies. They claim that accepting ads will make them more vulnerable to cabal editing.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 22, 2013, 07:27:11 PM
why cant wikipedia simply put ads in their sites? they will make loads of money and will stop begging.

No. It is against their policies. They claim that accepting ads will make them more vulnerable to cabal editing.

Change their policies... profit?


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 23, 2013, 07:02:55 AM
Change their policies... profit?

May be. They have expelled a large number of the old admins and senior editors. Most of the current admins are close to Jimmy Wales. So soon we can expect a change in the policies...... and ads in the Wiki.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: TheFootMan on December 23, 2013, 02:19:47 PM
Change their policies... profit?

May be. They have expelled a large number of the old admins and senior editors. Most of the current admins are close to Jimmy Wales. So soon we can expect a change in the policies...... and ads in the Wiki.

 I don't see the problem with running ads on wikipedia - they could always pre approve the ads they're serving if they want to have control over it.

But I think we should just leave Wikipedia alone in regards to accepting bitcoin. Perhaps in a few years time they will realize what they're missing out and start accepting it.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on December 23, 2013, 06:55:33 PM
http://buttcoin.org/stop-donating-wikipedia

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In a ridiculously informal and totally unscientific poll, I discovered that the same bitcoiners clamoring for Wikipedia to take their money don’t want to give them much money at all, if anything. Answers ranged from the equivalent of a couple of dollars, with at least two people regurgitating South Park’s “tree fiddy” meme, one stipulating that Wikipedia could have ten entire bitcoins if they “apologize for being wankers about the whole thing,” and many more insisted that Wikipedia no longer deserves their “money” for giving them the cold shoulder for so long. .

Hahahahaha. Lold.

https://i.imgur.com/bZlnpd3.jpg

I wonder how many people donate tree fiddy to wikipedia?


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 25, 2013, 02:07:56 PM
But I think we should just leave Wikipedia alone in regards to accepting bitcoin. Perhaps in a few years time they will realize what they're missing out and start accepting it.

Wikipedia is based in UK, right? With no banks supporting BTC there, it will be enormously difficult for them to convert those coins to cash. Also, there will be tax-related complexities as well.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 25, 2013, 02:15:33 PM
But I think we should just leave Wikipedia alone in regards to accepting bitcoin. Perhaps in a few years time they will realize what they're missing out and start accepting it.

Wikipedia is based in UK, right? With no banks supporting BTC there, it will be enormously difficult for them to convert those coins to cash. Also, there will be tax-related complexities as well.

I think it's based in Florida.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: DodoB on December 25, 2013, 05:05:27 PM
But I think we should just leave Wikipedia alone in regards to accepting bitcoin. Perhaps in a few years time they will realize what they're missing out and start accepting it.

Wikipedia is based in UK, right? With no banks supporting BTC there, it will be enormously difficult for them to convert those coins to cash. Also, there will be tax-related complexities as well.

I think it's based in Florida.

Actually they are based in San Fracisco.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: bitmarket.io on December 25, 2013, 05:44:59 PM
wikipedia deserves te donation. all the beggars here do not


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: beetcoin on December 26, 2013, 05:47:57 AM
Yes, I do refute all of the above, unless you can convince me otherwise. What evidence do you have that Sandy Hook was a 'fake' shooting, or Boston Bombing was a false flag attack carried out by Nato etc? And what was the reasons for them?
It's not rocket science. The only way this current bankrupt system may continue in north America, is by turning the average American citizen or resident into a 'terrorist.' This translates to billions of dollars spent on high tech security equipment (vendors who just happen to be part of Homeland Security itself), and the opportunity to levy all sorts of spurious fines, fees and extra charges, to keep the machine going for as long as possible before the final collapse.

The reason for all the false flags is that there is NO real terrorist threat, so the government has to fabricate it. It's called psychological warfare. Wikipedia is part of the same psychological warfare outfit.

If you're interested to know more and have a weekend to spare, check out cluesforum.info.

"American people don't believe anything until they see it on television.” Richard M. Nixon




I agree with you that there is little-to-no worry for terrorist threats, and that the general public are easily mislead by the media, but you need some evidence other than pure speculation and assumption. Not everything is a conspiracy. Sometimes people just like to shoot and kill and blow each other up.

this guy would get along well with actortomtruong. together they can listen to alex jones.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: stompix on December 26, 2013, 07:14:18 AM
wikipedia deserves te donation. all the beggars here do not

This. I always said that wikipedia can't be considered a beggar.
They do provide some really useful information , they pay for their servers and bandwidth , they do actually spend time working on this project , (not leaving everything to the contributors).

So , you can't compare them to a beggar on btalk who makes an account and starts begging for free coins.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 26, 2013, 08:41:26 AM
let me know when they take bitcoin, i will send them $13.37k usd worth.

If you are serious, then you can directly write an email to Jimbo Wales. 13K is quite a big amount of money, and the Wikipedia admins will do anything to get it. (Even if that means that they have to change or rewrite their policies).  ;D


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 26, 2013, 11:47:01 AM
I'm more than serious, but I'm not about to beg them to take BTC.

13k is a "big amount of money" ? Like policy changing?? Doubt it...

Anyway PM me if they ever take it, ill send a hand full of coin their way.

Hmm... you don't have to beg.  ;D

And regarding the policy change, I know people who paid $200 to get "harmful" sections removed from the Wikipedia article dealing with them or their companies. (It was done indirectly. The payment was not made to Wales. Rather it was made to some Wikipedia admins who removed the sections themselves).

Anyway, here is his email ID:  jwales@wikia.com


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 26, 2013, 11:59:13 AM
I'm more than serious, but I'm not about to beg them to take BTC.

13k is a "big amount of money" ? Like policy changing?? Doubt it...

Anyway PM me if they ever take it, ill send a hand full of coin their way.

Hmm... you don't have to beg.  ;D

And regarding the policy change, I know people who paid $200 to get "harmful" sections removed from the Wikipedia article dealing with them or their companies. (It was done indirectly. The payment was not made to Wales. Rather it was made to some Wikipedia admins who removed the sections themselves).


Any evidence of this? $200 seems quite a little amount, and they could be just rogue admins.


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: stompix on December 26, 2013, 12:47:25 PM
I'm more than serious, but I'm not about to beg them to take BTC.

13k is a "big amount of money" ? Like policy changing?? Doubt it...

Anyway PM me if they ever take it, ill send a hand full of coin their way.

Hmm... you don't have to beg.  ;D

And regarding the policy change, I know people who paid $200 to get "harmful" sections removed from the Wikipedia article dealing with them or their companies. (It was done indirectly. The payment was not made to Wales. Rather it was made to some Wikipedia admins who removed the sections themselves).

Anyway, here is his email ID:  jwales@wikia.com

Trying to convince them in the normal way to take BTC payment has failed , so the only way to make them take your payment would be to beg.
This is what some are doing right now and no , this isn't the right way to do it.

Please allow me to donate some BTC?  common...


Title: Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum?
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 26, 2013, 02:01:56 PM
Any evidence of this? $200 seems quite a little amount, and they could be just rogue admins.

One of my friends, an user with tens of thousands of Wiki edits found a Job description in Elance.com. It was to alter the Wikipedia article of a Mining company. The person who posted the job was a total idiot and he made all the details public (visible to everyone). My friend took a screenshot of this job, and marked the article in his watch list. To his surprise, the job was carried out within the next 48 hours, by a very reputed admin. My friend posted this in the Wikipedia complaints thread, along with the proof. Initially, the majority of the admins voted in favor to ban the culprit. But then suddenly 2-3 British admins, who are close to Wales argued that the proof was doctored.

The JPEG file had no modifications, but these guys will not believe. And the new edits were clearly biased in nature, deleting the sections on environmental damages caused by the company and replacing it with an alternate version from a little-known source. The argument went on for 2-3 months, and my friend gave it up (He had a full time job as well).

A few days later, the British admins flagged my friend's user account as "Sockpuppet". They claimed that he was holding 2-3 different accounts, which were only a few days old. Most of the edits were in the articles in which my friend was active. But some of the edits were clearly spam. A Checkuser process was conducted, and it was found that although the IPs were different, the network provider was the same. My friend was banned.

He wrote to Wales, but the latter replied by saying that the people who banned him are the most honest Wiki editors.