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Economy => Goods => Topic started by: BTCINVESTOR on December 12, 2013, 01:55:46 AM



Title: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: BTCINVESTOR on December 12, 2013, 01:55:46 AM
http://www.alitinmint.com (http://www.alitinmint.com)


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: Noitev on December 12, 2013, 05:56:11 AM
at a premium of ~1btc? no thank you.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: LOL on December 12, 2013, 06:48:38 AM
I wasn't able to find any reference beyond the Alitin Mint website that the artist was working on this coin.

I'm very tempted to pull the trigger, but ~3 BTC is a lot to spend with a company that doesn't have a track record.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: DrahogErusiel on December 12, 2013, 06:51:14 AM
i think you're getting a little ahead of yourself... this looks about as traditional as it gets.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 12, 2013, 02:35:13 PM
I've never understood this need to turn a purely virtual, mathematical currency into something physical. I've been told it makes it easier for "the guy on the street to understand it". No it doesn't, it just confuses the concept.

What happens if you lose the physical coin or have it stolen? Do you lose the value as well?

For my bitcoin, I'm happy to keep it virtual, and stored in a brain wallet, not stuck under the mattress.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: cfrm on December 12, 2013, 05:19:09 PM
I've never understood this need to turn a purely virtual, mathematical currency into something physical. I've been told it makes it easier for "the guy on the street to understand it". No it doesn't, it just confuses the concept.

What happens if you lose the physical coin or have it stolen? Do you lose the value as well?

For my bitcoin, I'm happy to keep it virtual, and stored in a brain wallet, not stuck under the mattress.

I guess it's more of a collectors thing. More romantic to have the physical coin, and also it's an investment. Physical bitcoins are scarce and rare coins gets more valuable over years.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: worldtreasurefinders on December 12, 2013, 05:41:43 PM
I wish there were hi-res images of the coins.  I can barely make out what the reverse of the coin looks like.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: BTCINVESTOR on December 12, 2013, 07:54:44 PM
Alitin Mint is a licensed money transmitter and registered with FinCEN so they are totally legal right now.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 13, 2013, 01:44:04 AM
I've never understood this need to turn a purely virtual, mathematical currency into something physical. I've been told it makes it easier for "the guy on the street to understand it". No it doesn't, it just confuses the concept.

What happens if you lose the physical coin or have it stolen? Do you lose the value as well?

For my bitcoin, I'm happy to keep it virtual, and stored in a brain wallet, not stuck under the mattress.

I guess it's more of a collectors thing. More romantic to have the physical coin, and also it's an investment. Physical bitcoins are scarce and rare coins gets more valuable over years.

Gotcha ... but still  .....

1) Do your lose your bitcoin "value" if the coin is stolen?
2) Kind of ironic people are making bitcoins out of silver, when many people see bitcoin as replacing gold + silver

If it proves a good investment, good luck to you. They do look nice I'll admit that. Just I wouldn't want to own one if the bitcoin price dropped to $10 and I realized I'd spend a load of money on silver that wasn't worth much.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: BTCINVESTOR on December 13, 2013, 02:23:40 AM
I've never understood this need to turn a purely virtual, mathematical currency into something physical. I've been told it makes it easier for "the guy on the street to understand it". No it doesn't, it just confuses the concept.

What happens if you lose the physical coin or have it stolen? Do you lose the value as well?

For my bitcoin, I'm happy to keep it virtual, and stored in a brain wallet, not stuck under the mattress.

I guess it's more of a collectors thing. More romantic to have the physical coin, and also it's an investment. Physical bitcoins are scarce and rare coins gets more valuable over years.

Gotcha ... but still  .....

1) Do your lose your bitcoin "value" if the coin is stolen?
2) Kind of ironic people are making bitcoins out of silver, when many people see bitcoin as replacing gold + silver

If it proves a good investment, good luck to you. They do look nice I'll admit that. Just I wouldn't want to own one if the bitcoin price dropped to $10 and I realized I'd spend a load of money on silver that wasn't worth much.

Alitin Mint plans some seriously cool gold bitcoins. Solid 24K gold, 3 oz, 3 BTC. They are likely only going to make 100 of them.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: pand70 on December 13, 2013, 02:35:34 AM
I 'm already in love with a girl that doesn't really cares about me. Carry on  :-[


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 13, 2013, 03:00:32 AM
I 'm already in love with a girl that doesn't really cares about me. Carry on  :-[

Congrats on posting something as far off-topic as I have ever seen in a forum  ;)

But you are obviously hurting so I feel for ya bro.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: bitgirl on December 13, 2013, 03:13:07 AM
You may want to rethink this. Look what happened to casascius coins. Pure bullshit, but do you have the money to hire attorneys and argue with the government? Good luck. I hope you win!

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/casascius/


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: Mushroomized on December 13, 2013, 03:40:08 AM
haha jokes on you no one will ever love me


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: worldtreasurefinders on December 13, 2013, 03:48:36 AM
You may want to rethink this. Look what happened to casascius coins. Pure bullshit, but do you have the money to hire attorneys and argue with the government? Good luck. I hope you win!

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/casascius/

Read the thread.  Just a few posts above yours:

Alitin Mint is a licensed money transmitter and registered with FinCEN so they are totally legal right now.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 13, 2013, 04:35:57 AM
Seems like I've found another reason for not like physical bitcoins - they've been banned!!


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: worldtreasurefinders on December 13, 2013, 05:10:34 AM
Alitin Mint plans some seriously cool gold bitcoins. Solid 24K gold, 3 oz, 3 BTC. They are likely only going to make 100 of them.

How do you know this?  I didn't see that info anywhere on the site!


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: faizaa123 on December 13, 2013, 05:16:22 AM
1btc?
no thanks.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: ajax3592 on December 13, 2013, 12:28:13 PM
Packaging looks sweet  :) $2700 for a 2.9 BTC is good enough. What is the 1 BTC premium that people are talking about?


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: BTCINVESTOR on December 13, 2013, 03:29:33 PM
Alitin Mint plans some seriously cool gold bitcoins. Solid 24K gold, 3 oz, 3 BTC. They are likely only going to make 100 of them.

How do you know this?  I didn't see that info anywhere on the site!

I am related to the artist


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: DrahogErusiel on December 13, 2013, 05:31:30 PM
Packaging looks sweet  :) $2700 for a 2.9 BTC is good enough. What is the 1 BTC premium that people are talking about?
0.9BTC - you need to look at the coin again, its 2BTC not 2.9BTC


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: bitmarket.io on December 13, 2013, 07:33:17 PM
I don't like the look of it. Some old person to be the face of a ground breaking technology?

This looks like another US coin.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: DrahogErusiel on December 13, 2013, 08:03:51 PM
I don't like the look of it. Some old person to be the face of a ground breaking technology?

This looks like another US coin.

agreed


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: worldtreasurefinders on December 13, 2013, 09:18:37 PM
I don't like the look of it. Some old person to be the face of a ground breaking technology?

This looks like another US coin.

Have you never heard the phrase that we stand on the shoulders of giants?  This "old person" is one of the fathers of free market economics, upon which the bitcoin protocol is based!  I see nothing wrong with honoring him in this way, in fact it is quite fitting.  Very few economic philosophers would be worth of such an honor.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: DrahogErusiel on December 13, 2013, 11:53:26 PM
I don't like the look of it. Some old person to be the face of a ground breaking technology?

This looks like another US coin.

Have you never heard the phrase that we stand on the shoulders of giants?  This "old person" is one of the fathers of free market economics, upon which the bitcoin protocol is based!  I see nothing wrong with honoring him in this way, in fact it is quite fitting.  Very few economic philosophers would be worth of such an honor.

true, but still you get a "eh". the idea of adding an iconic face to any decentralized currency seems out of place IMO. besides the traditional design i think its a pretty good idea.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: bitmarket.io on December 14, 2013, 02:30:27 AM
it should not have a human face on it period.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 14, 2013, 02:42:13 AM
it should not have a human face on it period.

If I was thinking about buying a physical bitcoin I would be more concerned about it being declared illegal than what picture was on it. What's wrong with pictures of humans anyway? Should it be a robot?  :)


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: cfrm on December 14, 2013, 02:46:41 AM
it should not have a human face on it period.

If I was thinking about buying a physical bitcoin I would be more concerned about it being declared illegal than what picture was on it. What's wrong with pictures of humans anyway? Should it be a robot?  :)

How could a physical Bitcoin be declared illegal, might I ask?


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 14, 2013, 02:50:13 AM
it should not have a human face on it period.

If I was thinking about buying a physical bitcoin I would be more concerned about it being declared illegal than what picture was on it. What's wrong with pictures of humans anyway? Should it be a robot?  :)

How could a physical Bitcoin be declared illegal, might I ask?

Just ask the good old US government:

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/casascius/


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: DrahogErusiel on December 14, 2013, 03:00:23 AM
it should not have a human face on it period.

If I was thinking about buying a physical bitcoin I would be more concerned about it being declared illegal than what picture was on it. What's wrong with pictures of humans anyway? Should it be a robot?  :)

SURE, an overheated hard working ASIC schematic would be sweet. maybe even spray some sulfur scent on it


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: TitanBTC on December 14, 2013, 03:32:18 AM
it should not have a human face on it period.

If I was thinking about buying a physical bitcoin I would be more concerned about it being declared illegal than what picture was on it. What's wrong with pictures of humans anyway? Should it be a robot?  :)

How could a physical Bitcoin be declared illegal, might I ask?

Just ask the good old US government:

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/casascius/

These are great looking coins. 

Physical bitcoins are not now and never will be illegal.  Money laundering is what's illegal and that's what the U.S. department of the Treasury is looking to prevent.

Let's stop lying and saying that physical bitcoins have been made illegal. 


On an unrelated side note, does anyone know how to escape from handcuffs?


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: DrahogErusiel on December 14, 2013, 03:49:04 AM
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On an unrelated side note, does anyone know how to escape from handcuffs?

ill do a google search for 3BTC  ;D


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: kwoody on December 14, 2013, 07:46:07 AM
Given the markup on these, I'm more likely to report your website to the department of treasury than I am to make a purchase on your website.


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: johnniewalker on December 14, 2013, 08:37:30 AM
Speaking numismatically your design is very nice. Because of the high relief it would technically be known as a "medal/medallion". The US (but mostly private ones) Mint produces commemorative medals that look much the same. I think its cool to have something that looks so traditional be bitcoin-for a change. The premium is super high though-I imagine primarily to cover your production costs which could not have been cheap. Good luck!


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 14, 2013, 08:45:21 AM
Given the markup on these, I'm more likely to report your website to the department of treasury than I am to make a purchase on your website.

Well they have to get the money back from becoming a licensed money transmitter somehow. Pass it onto the customer :)


Title: Re: Prepare to fall in love my friends...
Post by: buzybit on December 15, 2013, 08:45:01 AM
I 'm already in love with a girl that doesn't really cares about me. Carry on  :-[

hahha!
yeah carry on! :P