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Title: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: adpinbr on December 12, 2013, 06:46:45 AM
Ups and downs in between? common guys speculate thats what we are here for


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Kreigyr on December 12, 2013, 06:50:59 AM
Between 10,000$ and 15,000$ with little certainty, and between 0.0001$ and 15,000,000$ with 100% certainty.

I'm fulling expecting it to go UP, long-term, at this point, barring some sort of massive legal or cryptographic issue.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: davidv on December 12, 2013, 06:51:39 AM
1400 Dollar


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: PenAndPaper on December 12, 2013, 07:00:26 AM
Ups and downs in between? common guys speculate thats what we are here for

Actually there is a speculation sub forum so technically we are not here for this  ::)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: beetcoin on December 12, 2013, 07:17:33 AM
i think that by the end of 2014, at least a few major retailers will have adopted BTC as a form of payment.. and wall streeters will have poured their money into BTC. so i'm going to be a bit conservative, with these assumptions assumed, at around $5,000. that's just my uneducated guess though, what the hell do i know?


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Pente on December 12, 2013, 08:30:04 AM
Looks to me that bitcoin keeps trying to get above $1000 and then losing support. I think we may have to wait at least a few more months for the infrastructure to grow a new price foundation before we get any serious growth in prices again.

So basically guessing around $950.

That being said, I am wrong more than I am right. Which is why I only buy and hold. I am good at investing (seeing the fundamentals), terrible at speculating (anticipating herd behavior).



Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: beetcoin on December 12, 2013, 08:33:00 AM
Looks to me that bitcoin keeps trying to get above $1000 and then losing support. I think we may have to wait at least a few more months for the infrastructure to grow a new price foundation before we get any serious growth in prices again.

So basically guessing around $950.

That being said, I am wrong more than I am right. Which is why I only buy and hold. I am good at investing (seeing the fundamentals), terrible at speculating (anticipating herd behavior).



this is what im thinking too. the gunslingers are waiting to see some sort of news. if we stabilize near $1,000 i'm quite happy though.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Desensitizer on December 12, 2013, 08:54:08 AM
I think it will reach $2000 dollars. People will begin to adopt and trust bitcoins, and the price will rise accordingly. I do not see a huge growth spurt however until far into the future. There are just too many people who adopted low that will sell once the value reaches a certain point and they have made the profits they want to that will continually hold bitcoins back from growing even further.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: beetcoin on December 12, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
I think it will reach $2000 dollars. People will begin to adopt and trust bitcoins, and the price will rise accordingly. I do not see a huge growth spurt however until far into the future. There are just too many people who adopted low that will sell once the value reaches a certain point and they have made the profits they want to that will continually hold bitcoins back from growing even further.

don't know what you define growth spurt as, but i really doubt it can grow 100 fold next year as it did this year.. but 10 fold is a reasonable number.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: godislove on December 12, 2013, 09:51:48 AM
$6k

My gut says $10k, but the long-term exponential trend at MtGox is a doubling every 120 days (8x per year) and current value is supposed to be at $250, giving $2k next year.  So, splitting the difference, $6k.  3 years: $100k.  I couldn't find anyone in my plebian circles at the beginning of November that had heard of it.  This is like 1995 internet, except faster.  After 7 years, 2002, internet had great penetration, with  internet cafes all over 3rd world, and in "every" U.S. office and home.  I'd say 4 years is when 3rd world is using bitcoin like crazy.  Huge problem: it can't be used for much in-person retail work without some underlying private layer because it's too slow.  Even lite coin is 2.3 minutes too slow.

It can't go too fast because most people who make 100x on 5% of their net worth invested are having their life completely changed and it's hard to stay more than 50% in.  It needs to be at $600 for newcomers to think it's not at a peak.  So, without any news, we'll drift downward.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: techstorm2 on December 12, 2013, 10:47:56 AM
Between 5K-10K.


if the interest continues and the wall street big wigs start moving into it then who knows. its going to be an interesting 2014.  ;)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 12, 2013, 12:55:56 PM
Hopefully a billion dollars each. :D

I'll take a guess at 5k by this time next year. 2014 is gonna be exciting for Bitcoin for sure.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: nasthedon on December 12, 2013, 02:09:30 PM
12500$


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 12, 2013, 02:38:13 PM
around $5K. But I'm being a bit conservative there I think. When I joined in March (a whole 9 months ago) it was $40 ....


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on December 12, 2013, 02:49:39 PM
I'll speculate at between 5000 and 10,000. If we can get some big businesses to start accepting them I think the value will go even further.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: DeboraMeeks on December 12, 2013, 04:59:54 PM
it's really difficult to tell as bitcoin volatility is so unpredictable and any news could switch it in the opposite direction and either increase or decrease it value. so I guess it mainly depend on the the mainstream acceptance and use.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: donbu7 on December 12, 2013, 05:22:03 PM
0


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: godislove on December 12, 2013, 05:30:17 PM
In the absence of unexpected news, our predictions create reality.  Our predictions are the intrinsic value.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: 2Alpha on December 12, 2013, 05:42:58 PM
I see it stabilizing around $1000 by end of the year 2013 and then in 2nd quarter of 2014 getting to around $1500 and then we will see another bursted bubble around 3d quater 2014 and back down to $900 - $1000 with an increase back to $1200 by Christmas 2014 but thats just my opinion.

I hope Im wrong and we get up in the $2k or $4k range over 2014 but until everyone stops selling off their coins at the first sign of a decline in price we will continue to see volatility in the price, its just like the dot com crashes back in the day one day your M$ stock was worth $150 a share and the next day it was worth $30 a share because everyone got scared they would loose their a$$ and sold everything.



Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Qbeczeq on December 12, 2013, 10:15:26 PM
I think price will be stable, systematically falling off from now. Maybe till next crisis, war or something :P


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: ajax3592 on December 12, 2013, 11:17:14 PM
I think price will be stable, systematically falling off from now. Maybe till next crisis, war or something :P

Same here, I don't think the value is going to rise at the same pace as it did this year. Bitcoin is in news all over the world from months, all the possible investors are already in.

<$2000


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: pand70 on December 12, 2013, 11:42:15 PM
If the downtrend continues and if we have some sell offs around christmas then i think it will go to around 500$


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 13, 2013, 01:30:11 AM
If the downtrend continues and if we have some sell offs around christmas then i think it will go to around 500$

What downtrend lol? It was at $400 a month ago. You gotta stop looking at 30-min charts  ;D


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: pand70 on December 13, 2013, 02:51:41 AM
If the downtrend continues and if we have some sell offs around christmas then i think it will go to around 500$

What downtrend lol? It was at $400 a month ago. You gotta stop looking at 30-min charts  ;D

That's true but the trend changed like 2 weeks ago when we first reached the ath of 1250$.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 13, 2013, 03:05:46 AM
If the downtrend continues and if we have some sell offs around christmas then i think it will go to around 500$

What downtrend lol? It was at $400 a month ago. You gotta stop looking at 30-min charts  ;D

That's true but the trend changed like 2 weeks ago when we first reached the ath of 1250$.

Of course there's going to be a correction after its gone up from $200 to $1200 in about six weeks. Its called profit-taking. Its not called a downtrend.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: mufa23 on December 13, 2013, 04:10:06 AM
Equal to, or more than $5,000 USD


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Operatr on December 13, 2013, 04:38:43 AM
From December 2012 to December 2013, BTC price rose by 60x (~$20 to ~$1200).

If it does something similar, $60,000 per coin this time next year at minimum. Though I think BTC growth is exponential, if that holds than it will be much higher than $60,000.

There is no telling how the other currencies will affect it though. Once BTC reaches a certain point we may just see other coins rise up next to it as their ultimate purpose is defined by the development work being built on top of them, forming more specialized blockchains that do different things, like Datacoin, Namecoin, and others like them, each of them valuable in their own unique ways. The sky is the limit to what this technology can do. Bitcoin is just the beta test. We saw Litecoin rise above where BTC was this time last year, there is no technical reason Litecoin can't become bigger than Bitcoin. BTC just has the advantage of being the first and therefore most well known cryptocurrency, but the limited exposure of the 100 chains behind it won't last.

When BTC hits 1000s people will notice these other cheaper coins more and more, even though fundamentally "1 coin" is arbitrary, but fiat minded people have trouble seeing past that. However making the smaller BTC denominations like mBTC will help with that in common usage.

This is a digital wild west, anything can happen, anything goes, no one on this planet can accurately predict what happens now. We are in for one wild ride I think, it would be wise to hold many kinds of crypto for the months ahead.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 13, 2013, 04:44:47 AM
From December 2012 to December 2013, BTC price rose by 60x (~$20 to ~$1200).

If it does something similar, $60,000 per coin this time next year at minimum. Though I think BTC growth is exponential, if that holds than it will be much higher than $60,000.

There is no telling how the other currencies will affect it though. Once BTC reaches a certain point we may just see other coins rise up next to it as their ultimate purpose is defined by the development work being built on top of them, forming more specialized blockchains that do different things, like Datacoin, Namecoin, and others like them, each of them valuable in their own unique ways. The sky is the limit to what this technology can do. Bitcoin is just the beta test. We saw Litecoin rise above where BTC was this time last year, there is no technical reason Litecoin can't become bigger than Bitcoin. BTC just has the advantage of being the first and therefore most well known cryptocurrency, but the limited exposure of the 100 chains behind it won't last.

When BTC hits 1000s people will notice these other cheaper coins more and more, even though fundamentally "1 coin" is arbitrary, but fiat minded people have trouble seeing past that. However making the smaller BTC denominations like mBTC will help with that in common usage.

This is a digital wild west, anything can happen, anything goes, no one on this planet can accurately predict what happens now. We are in for one wild ride I think, it would be wise to hold many kinds of crypto for the months ahead.

I've nothing against altcoins, but they have to *really* do something different to bitcoin to have a chance of success. There is so much being built on top of the bitcoin protocol. Other coins need to serve a niche if they want to prosper. And by niche, I don't mean "we have 4 times as many coins as bitcoin". That's the most pathetic excuse for a benefit I've ever heard.

Personally I think mBTC stinks as a concept, but that's just me ;-)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on December 13, 2013, 12:55:05 PM
From December 2012 to December 2013, BTC price rose by 60x (~$20 to ~$1200).

If it does something similar, $60,000 per coin this time next year at minimum. Though I think BTC growth is exponential, if that holds than it will be much higher than $60,000.

There is no telling how the other currencies will affect it though. Once BTC reaches a certain point we may just see other coins rise up next to it as their ultimate purpose is defined by the development work being built on top of them, forming more specialized blockchains that do different things, like Datacoin, Namecoin, and others like them, each of them valuable in their own unique ways. The sky is the limit to what this technology can do. Bitcoin is just the beta test. We saw Litecoin rise above where BTC was this time last year, there is no technical reason Litecoin can't become bigger than Bitcoin. BTC just has the advantage of being the first and therefore most well known cryptocurrency, but the limited exposure of the 100 chains behind it won't last.

When BTC hits 1000s people will notice these other cheaper coins more and more, even though fundamentally "1 coin" is arbitrary, but fiat minded people have trouble seeing past that. However making the smaller BTC denominations like mBTC will help with that in common usage.

This is a digital wild west, anything can happen, anything goes, no one on this planet can accurately predict what happens now. We are in for one wild ride I think, it would be wise to hold many kinds of crypto for the months ahead.

I've nothing against altcoins, but they have to *really* do something different to bitcoin to have a chance of success. There is so much being built on top of the bitcoin protocol. Other coins need to serve a niche if they want to prosper. And by niche, I don't mean "we have 4 times as many coins as bitcoin". That's the most pathetic excuse for a benefit I've ever heard.

Personally I think mBTC stinks as a concept, but that's just me ;-)
Let's face it, the majority of these alt coins are just made and promoted by people who missed the Bitcoin gold rush, and now want their own piece of the pie. Maybe some will get a little taste, but most wont.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: stompix on December 13, 2013, 10:00:29 PM
From December 2012 to December 2013, BTC price rose by 60x (~$20 to ~$1200).

If it does something similar, $60,000 per coin this time next year at minimum. Though I think BTC growth is exponential, if that holds than it will be much higher than $60,000.

There is no telling how the other currencies will affect it though. Once BTC reaches a certain point we may just see other coins rise up next to it as their ultimate purpose is defined by the development work being built on top of them, forming more specialized blockchains that do different things, like Datacoin, Namecoin, and others like them, each of them valuable in their own unique ways. The sky is the limit to what this technology can do. Bitcoin is just the beta test. We saw Litecoin rise above where BTC was this time last year, there is no technical reason Litecoin can't become bigger than Bitcoin. BTC just has the advantage of being the first and therefore most well known cryptocurrency, but the limited exposure of the 100 chains behind it won't last.

When BTC hits 1000s people will notice these other cheaper coins more and more, even though fundamentally "1 coin" is arbitrary, but fiat minded people have trouble seeing past that. However making the smaller BTC denominations like mBTC will help with that in common usage.

This is a digital wild west, anything can happen, anything goes, no one on this planet can accurately predict what happens now. We are in for one wild ride I think, it would be wise to hold many kinds of crypto for the months ahead.

The average price was 13.3$ last year. We have around 900 this year. That's a 70x increase.
But from 2011 to 2012 we have an increase of only 4x , from 3.50 to 13.3.

So , why shouldn't we have a  x1190 increase to December 2014?


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 14, 2013, 02:07:23 AM
From December 2012 to December 2013, BTC price rose by 60x (~$20 to ~$1200).

If it does something similar, $60,000 per coin this time next year at minimum. Though I think BTC growth is exponential, if that holds than it will be much higher than $60,000.

There is no telling how the other currencies will affect it though. Once BTC reaches a certain point we may just see other coins rise up next to it as their ultimate purpose is defined by the development work being built on top of them, forming more specialized blockchains that do different things, like Datacoin, Namecoin, and others like them, each of them valuable in their own unique ways. The sky is the limit to what this technology can do. Bitcoin is just the beta test. We saw Litecoin rise above where BTC was this time last year, there is no technical reason Litecoin can't become bigger than Bitcoin. BTC just has the advantage of being the first and therefore most well known cryptocurrency, but the limited exposure of the 100 chains behind it won't last.

When BTC hits 1000s people will notice these other cheaper coins more and more, even though fundamentally "1 coin" is arbitrary, but fiat minded people have trouble seeing past that. However making the smaller BTC denominations like mBTC will help with that in common usage.

This is a digital wild west, anything can happen, anything goes, no one on this planet can accurately predict what happens now. We are in for one wild ride I think, it would be wise to hold many kinds of crypto for the months ahead.

The average price was 13.3$ last year. We have around 900 this year. That's a 70x increase.
But from 2011 to 2012 we have an increase of only 4x , from 3.50 to 13.3.

So , why shouldn't we have a  x1190 increase to December 2014?

Because life doesn't work like that. Things go up, things go down. The past is not a good predictor of the future etc etc.

But yes, I do believe we will have a "nice" increase in 2014. Can't do a 70x increase every year though can we .... you do the math :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Siegfried on December 14, 2013, 02:34:17 AM
I think price will be stable, systematically falling off from now. Maybe till next crisis, war or something :P

Same here, I don't think the value is going to rise at the same pace as it did this year. Bitcoin is in news all over the world from months, all the possible investors are already in.

<$2000

It is definitely not true that all possible investors are already in.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: stompix on December 14, 2013, 02:38:49 AM
From December 2012 to December 2013, BTC price rose by 60x (~$20 to ~$1200).

If it does something similar, $60,000 per coin this time next year at minimum. Though I think BTC growth is exponential, if that holds than it will be much higher than $60,000.

There is no telling how the other currencies will affect it though. Once BTC reaches a certain point we may just see other coins rise up next to it as their ultimate purpose is defined by the development work being built on top of them, forming more specialized blockchains that do different things, like Datacoin, Namecoin, and others like them, each of them valuable in their own unique ways. The sky is the limit to what this technology can do. Bitcoin is just the beta test. We saw Litecoin rise above where BTC was this time last year, there is no technical reason Litecoin can't become bigger than Bitcoin. BTC just has the advantage of being the first and therefore most well known cryptocurrency, but the limited exposure of the 100 chains behind it won't last.

When BTC hits 1000s people will notice these other cheaper coins more and more, even though fundamentally "1 coin" is arbitrary, but fiat minded people have trouble seeing past that. However making the smaller BTC denominations like mBTC will help with that in common usage.

This is a digital wild west, anything can happen, anything goes, no one on this planet can accurately predict what happens now. We are in for one wild ride I think, it would be wise to hold many kinds of crypto for the months ahead.

The average price was 13.3$ last year. We have around 900 this year. That's a 70x increase.
But from 2011 to 2012 we have an increase of only 4x , from 3.50 to 13.3.

So , why shouldn't we have a  x1190 increase to December 2014?

Because life doesn't work like that. Things go up, things go down. The past is not a good predictor of the future etc etc.

But yes, I do believe we will have a "nice" increase in 2014. Can't do a 70x increase every year though can we .... you do the math :)

Of course I know that.
I was just pointing that he started his arguments for having a 60000 BTC the wrong way.
Also history does repeat but not in the same way :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: pand70 on December 14, 2013, 04:04:20 AM
If the downtrend continues and if we have some sell offs around christmas then i think it will go to around 500$

What downtrend lol? It was at $400 a month ago. You gotta stop looking at 30-min charts  ;D

That's true but the trend changed like 2 weeks ago when we first reached the ath of 1250$.

Of course there's going to be a correction after its gone up from $200 to $1200 in about six weeks. Its called profit-taking. Its not called a downtrend.

Call it whatever you like. The point is that the price went down and i can't see any signs for a recovery any time soon...


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 14, 2013, 04:10:30 AM
If the downtrend continues and if we have some sell offs around christmas then i think it will go to around 500$

What downtrend lol? It was at $400 a month ago. You gotta stop looking at 30-min charts  ;D

That's true but the trend changed like 2 weeks ago when we first reached the ath of 1250$.

Of course there's going to be a correction after its gone up from $200 to $1200 in about six weeks. Its called profit-taking. Its not called a downtrend.

Call it whatever you like. The point is that the price went down and i can't see any signs for a recovery any time soon...

Prices just don't keep going up and up, that's not how markets work. Go and visit investopedia, look at some graphs, or read some trading books.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: stompix on December 14, 2013, 04:17:13 AM
If the downtrend continues and if we have some sell offs around christmas then i think it will go to around 500$

What downtrend lol? It was at $400 a month ago. You gotta stop looking at 30-min charts  ;D

That's true but the trend changed like 2 weeks ago when we first reached the ath of 1250$.

Of course there's going to be a correction after its gone up from $200 to $1200 in about six weeks. Its called profit-taking. Its not called a downtrend.

Call it whatever you like. The point is that the price went down and i can't see any signs for a recovery any time soon...

Advice , open your eyes , open your heart , open your mouth and sing the bitcoin song.
If this doesn't help , go smoke a joint and you'll see plenty of reasons.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: qiwoman on December 14, 2013, 04:42:33 AM
I believe as the Market Cap increases and Bitcoin becomes more on trend with Mass Retail etc It could go to around anything between 5-10k approx. This is just an estimate as more and more Crytpo Currnecies come into play Bitcoin will be competing with other digital currencies as well as Fiat related money but as it was the first protocol of its kind to be used as a digital currency in this form I believe it will rise in value, intrinsically and as speculators come in to play with the Coin in the Markets. :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Tx2000 on December 14, 2013, 05:24:38 AM
It might jump up again to around $3500 or so but I feel that it will likely be somewhere between $1500-$2000.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: pand70 on December 14, 2013, 06:53:15 AM
Advice , open your eyes , open your heart , open your mouth and sing the bitcoin song.
If this doesn't help , go smoke a joint and you'll see plenty of reasons.

I can see plenty of reasons in the long run. I 'm talking about short to medium term.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 14, 2013, 08:34:03 AM
Advice , open your eyes , open your heart , open your mouth and sing the bitcoin song.
If this doesn't help , go smoke a joint and you'll see plenty of reasons.

I can see plenty of reasons in the long run. I 'm talking about short to medium term.

You can't wait a few weeks, into the new year? I'm presuming here you bought some coins for over a grand and disappointed about currently being "down in the game"?

What's that old saying? "A watched pot never boils" - stop watching the pot and you'll wake up one morning and we'll be back to an ATH


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 16, 2013, 03:12:56 PM
You can't wait a few weeks, into the new year? I'm presuming here you bought some coins for over a grand and disappointed about currently being "down in the game"?

What's that old saying? "A watched pot never boils" - stop watching the pot and you'll wake up one morning and we'll be back to an ATH

Sometimes sayings are nonsense  :D.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: infinitybo on December 16, 2013, 03:35:42 PM
Perhaps that will hit the 12.000$ mark, perhaps not at end of 2014 but that won't jump this limit or that will however in this case that will be an eventual financial crisis and economic collapse.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Raptas on December 16, 2013, 05:12:21 PM
Ups and downs in between? common guys speculate thats what we are here for

I'd take a wild guess here and go for about $1500. I really think it will rise, but estimates in the several thousands as some people are saying are way too high in my honest opinion.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Bobsurplus on December 16, 2013, 05:13:15 PM
50K each by Dec 2014


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: N_S on December 17, 2013, 03:38:26 AM
I'd take a wild guess here and go for about $1500. I really think it will rise, but estimates in the several thousands as some people are saying are way too high in my honest opinion.

Taking into account all the adoption we've seen, services being offered, infrastructure being built, you think we're primed to see a <100% gain over the entirely of 2014? That would rank as the worst year on record by almost 100%.

Care to explain why you think this is probable?


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Omega2513 on December 17, 2013, 03:58:14 AM
I would say around $1000 - $1200 unless another country like one of the asian countries, or russia embraces Bitcoin like china did, then I would say around the $2000 mark


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: pand70 on December 17, 2013, 04:07:12 AM
I would say around $1000 - $1200 unless another country like one of the asian countries, or russia embraces Bitcoin like china did, then I would say around the $2000 mark

Nice post from 1 month ago. In case that you didn't notice things changes and china now fights bitcoin...


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: drewster on December 17, 2013, 04:15:59 AM
Ups and downs in between? common guys speculate thats what we are here for

Okay completely wild numbers...

Short term (now to mid Jan 2014) I expect a drop -- a sharp one.  Longer term, up up and away.  Wall Street has funds that are all about buying it.  Political stuff could introduce some speed bumps.  But here are the 3 predictions:

#1 -- Drop to around $375 between now and January 20, 2014.

#2 -- Increase to over $1800 by May 30, 2014.

#4 -- End 2014 in the $2500 to $3000 range.



Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: pand70 on December 17, 2013, 05:25:54 AM
And these predictions are based on what? Crystal ball, tarot or horoscopes?  ::)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Omega2513 on December 17, 2013, 05:32:10 AM
I would say around $1000 - $1200 unless another country like one of the asian countries, or russia embraces Bitcoin like china did, then I would say around the $2000 mark

Nice post from 1 month ago. In case that you didn't notice things changes and china now fights bitcoin...

I still stand by it. I do notice things change and do check the forums as well... something you should do


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 17, 2013, 07:27:33 AM
You can't wait a few weeks, into the new year? I'm presuming here you bought some coins for over a grand and disappointed about currently being "down in the game"?

What's that old saying? "A watched pot never boils" - stop watching the pot and you'll wake up one morning and we'll be back to an ATH

Sometimes sayings are nonsense  :D.

You know time is relative right. Einstein said that. little of what he said was nonsense  :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: PeanutPower on December 17, 2013, 09:35:18 AM
I assume the price correlates to adoption (users) vs coin supply. I bought a few coins when they were $27 and sold when it broke $100 thinking that was amazing.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: stompix on December 17, 2013, 10:52:58 AM
I assume the price correlates to adoption (users) vs coin supply. I bought a few coins when they were $27 and sold when it broke $100 thinking that was amazing.

So you really think we have seen a 50x times increase in bitcoin users since January?
I doubt it!


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 17, 2013, 11:33:34 AM
Well, doesn't look like it'll be back at $1000 before the end of the year as I thought, but who knows. I guess it's no biggie as I think 2014 is going to be a big year for Bitcoin. It's exciting to see what will happen either way.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: zhinkk on December 17, 2013, 12:12:48 PM
Hopefully 2k. But the end of 2014 is so far away, anything is possible. Even $0 is possible.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 17, 2013, 12:15:49 PM
Hopefully 2k. But the end of 2014 is so far away, anything is possible. Even $0 is possible.

I think 2k is a conservative estimate. It'll probably go much higher if it gets some big merchants behind it.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 17, 2013, 04:15:32 PM
China being out of the game is a big blow. But there are so many countries that even have to get into the game a little bit, and we are back on track. It wasn't like huge money was coming in from China.

And there are always those regular as clockwork financial crises to scare people into bitcoins ;)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: uk1 on December 17, 2013, 04:18:00 PM
$3000


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: BitChick on December 17, 2013, 04:21:40 PM
50K each by Dec 2014

That sounds about right, give or take a few thousand.

This is based on the adoption growth rate we have so far.  We went from around $13 at the beginning of this year and we are ending up at around $700 to $800 (or more depending on how the next couple of weeks go).   So to go from $800 in January to $50,000 in December could be attainable.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: chesthing on December 18, 2013, 01:10:07 AM
I think it's either going to be over $5k or nothing.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: t1000 on December 18, 2013, 01:26:03 AM
Bitstamp: $4527.42 @ 31-12-2014 23:59:59


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 18, 2013, 02:54:18 AM
I think it's either going to be over $5k or nothing.

What would cause the value to drop to nothing in the next 12 months?


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: NineLives on December 18, 2013, 03:58:54 AM
I think it's either going to be over $5k or nothing.

What would cause the value to drop to nothing in the next 12 months?

More governments scaring folk.. Like India is growing now but its government already hate the idea.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: notig on December 18, 2013, 04:22:12 AM
620


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 18, 2013, 06:21:51 AM
I think it's either going to be over $5k or nothing.

What would cause the value to drop to nothing in the next 12 months?

More governments scaring folk.. Like India is growing now but its government already hate the idea.

India was never going to be a big market in the next year. America, China, Russia, Europe.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: polarhei on December 18, 2013, 10:56:59 AM
$150.00 per one BTC, If people are still panic. However I don't see the supply stopped at a moment, Still increasing.

Some people have misread a formal notice posted by The People's Bank of China, PRC dated on 5 Dec 2013.





Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: drewster on December 18, 2013, 01:00:30 PM
Ups and downs in between? common guys speculate thats what we are here for

Okay completely wild numbers...

Short term (now to mid Jan 2014) I expect a drop -- a sharp one.  Longer term, up up and away.  Wall Street has funds that are all about buying it.  Political stuff could introduce some speed bumps.  But here are the 3 predictions:

#1 -- Drop to around $375 between now and January 20, 2014.

#2 -- Increase to over $1800 by May 30, 2014.

#4 -- End 2014 in the $2500 to $3000 range.



Okay, quoting myself here now, I'm going to go ahead and assert that #1 above has now come to fruition.  I see Bitstamp touched 382.21 last night which technically is not $375, but I did say around $375, so I think it qualifies.  (Camp BX claims it hit $300, but I'm not sure it technically qualifies as an exchange.)

Now it's time to buy with both hands. :-)



Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: cowandtea on December 18, 2013, 01:30:58 PM
Its good time to buy some bitcoin now... panic usually don't last few days...


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: cdtc on December 18, 2013, 02:44:57 PM
I think it will be  between 5-10k $.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 18, 2013, 02:51:00 PM
Ups and downs in between? common guys speculate thats what we are here for

Okay completely wild numbers...

Short term (now to mid Jan 2014) I expect a drop -- a sharp one.  Longer term, up up and away.  Wall Street has funds that are all about buying it.  Political stuff could introduce some speed bumps.  But here are the 3 predictions:

#1 -- Drop to around $375 between now and January 20, 2014.

#2 -- Increase to over $1800 by May 30, 2014.

#4 -- End 2014 in the $2500 to $3000 range.



Okay, quoting myself here now, I'm going to go ahead and assert that #1 above has now come to fruition.  I see Bitstamp touched 382.21 last night which technically is not $375, but I did say around $375, so I think it qualifies.  (Camp BX claims it hit $300, but I'm not sure it technically qualifies as an exchange.)

Now it's time to buy with both hands. :-)



If you bought a coin at CampBx the price would probably double ;)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: NineLives on December 19, 2013, 04:45:14 AM
I think it's either going to be over $5k or nothing.

What would cause the value to drop to nothing in the next 12 months?

More governments scaring folk.. Like India is growing now but its government already hate the idea.

India was never going to be a big market in the next year. America, China, Russia, Europe.

No I think they will.  Might take time but they will.

http://m.timesofindia.com/tech/tech-news/internet/Trade-in-Bitcoins-gains-currency-among-youth-in-Mumbai/articleshow/27378658.cms


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: GoldSeal on December 19, 2013, 07:38:05 AM
If I had to wager, I would say $6428 per BTC this time next year. However, it's anyone's guess.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 19, 2013, 09:00:16 AM
I think it's either going to be over $5k or nothing.

What would cause the value to drop to nothing in the next 12 months?

More governments scaring folk.. Like India is growing now but its government already hate the idea.

India was never going to be a big market in the next year. America, China, Russia, Europe.

No I think they will.  Might take time but they will.

http://m.timesofindia.com/tech/tech-news/internet/Trade-in-Bitcoins-gains-currency-among-youth-in-Mumbai/articleshow/27378658.cms

That's just a few kids trying to get rich from the bitcoin bubble. They are probably back home crying to mummy now. In time, of course, if India embraces bitcoin and doesn't ban it, it will gain acceptance. But we aren't talking 2014 I'm afraid.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 19, 2013, 09:36:41 AM
I think it's either going to be over $5k or nothing.

What would cause the value to drop to nothing in the next 12 months?

More governments scaring folk.. Like India is growing now but its government already hate the idea.

Even if every government in the world 'banned' it, the price still wouldn't drop to zero. People would still use it as a payment system / means of exchange, therefore it would still be worth something.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: noud92 on December 19, 2013, 02:17:32 PM


- 15 December 2014, BTC = $1623


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Sindelar1938 on December 19, 2013, 02:44:06 PM
I am now gonna go with 5k at 2014 end


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Aphos on December 19, 2013, 05:50:25 PM
Ups and downs in between? common guys speculate thats what we are here for

Okay completely wild numbers...

Short term (now to mid Jan 2014) I expect a drop -- a sharp one.  Longer term, up up and away.  Wall Street has funds that are all about buying it.  Political stuff could introduce some speed bumps.  But here are the 3 predictions:

#1 -- Drop to around $375 between now and January 20, 2014.

#2 -- Increase to over $1800 by May 30, 2014.

#4 -- End 2014 in the $2500 to $3000 range.



Okay, quoting myself here now, I'm going to go ahead and assert that #1 above has now come to fruition.  I see Bitstamp touched 382.21 last night which technically is not $375, but I did say around $375, so I think it qualifies.  (Camp BX claims it hit $300, but I'm not sure it technically qualifies as an exchange.)

Now it's time to buy with both hands. :-)


Out of all the wild guesses here, this one seems to be the most likely. $2,000-$3,000 seems about right for the end of 2014, assuming it becomes more widely accepted by big corporations. I doubt it will rise up to $50,000 in only a year, despite previous percentage increases. A demand that high would enable even a small time miner such as myself to afford a new house. Sorry. The US economy alone would likely collapse. (Just a theory.) If not that, then I can guarantee you the value of the dollar will sink dramatically. Of course, if bitcoin reached $50,000 in the next seven years slowly over time, things might go more smoothly; but it's going to take longer than a year.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: DubFX on December 19, 2013, 05:50:58 PM
1500-2000$


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 20, 2013, 02:51:29 AM
$2.50

i hate people saying it will go to zero  ;)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Bobsurplus on December 20, 2013, 04:47:27 AM
50K each by Dec 2014

That sounds about right, give or take a few thousand.

This is based on the adoption growth rate we have so far.  We went from around $13 at the beginning of this year and we are ending up at around $700 to $800 (or more depending on how the next couple of weeks go).   So to go from $800 in January to $50,000 in December could be attainable.

I like your style!  8)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 20, 2013, 06:06:20 AM
50K each by Dec 2014

That sounds about right, give or take a few thousand.

This is based on the adoption growth rate we have so far.  We went from around $13 at the beginning of this year and we are ending up at around $700 to $800 (or more depending on how the next couple of weeks go).   So to go from $800 in January to $50,000 in December could be attainable.

I like your style!  8)

I like your optimism  8)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: ninjafocus100 on December 22, 2013, 04:49:05 PM
My guess would be about $2000-3000.  :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: stash on December 23, 2013, 05:01:10 AM
Will hit ATH @ USD 75923.07692307692 if price tend to follow this year percentage increased.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Light on December 23, 2013, 08:38:59 AM
Honestly, it's either going to flourish to something like 2-3K per BTC or completely crash and burn sometime in the middle of the year to $30-50 depending on how widespread adoption becomes and whether anymore legislation appears that hinders that path of BTC.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 23, 2013, 11:18:32 AM
Honestly, it's either going to flourish to something like 2-3K per BTC or completely crash and burn sometime in the middle of the year to $30-50 depending on how widespread adoption becomes and whether anymore legislation appears that hinders that path of BTC.

This is a long-term project. I agree ultimately, it will either be worth a lot or very little, but that doesn't have to happen in 2014. A heck of a lot has to play out first.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Kaligulax on December 23, 2013, 09:00:49 PM
about 1300-1400$


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: BitCoinMiner01 on December 25, 2013, 03:57:02 AM
I think this depends entirely upon other currencies that intend / promise to decentralize other important services  (ie: Domains, Credit, E-Mail, Trade, etc).  Protoshares, NXT, MSC, eMunie to name a few.

With that being said, I still think enough people are warming up to Bitcoin to make a $10k BTC feasible within the next couple of years.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: CoinPN on December 25, 2013, 04:52:40 AM
I'm expecting it to hover around 2-3k$/btc by the end of the year


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Parazyd on December 25, 2013, 08:21:58 AM
This sounds about right!  :D
http://z.hubpages.com/u/948083_f520.jpg

Seriously though, more than $2000.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: swifty1337 on December 25, 2013, 10:18:06 AM
About ~$2000 in april


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: CoinPN on December 25, 2013, 12:57:12 PM
I will ask my boss to cash out with btc instead  ;D


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Ducky1 on December 25, 2013, 03:41:01 PM
If its the same distance to the exponential trendline as now the price would be at roughly $7000. If its at the trendline the price will be roughly $2500, and if its at the bottom trendline it will be around $750. The most optimistic value would be $10000. If there is a S-kurve developing, there can be no resonable upper price limit imho. So basically more than $750 and less than infinite (probaly less than $10000).


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: yatsey87 on December 25, 2013, 05:00:02 PM
I reckon it'll be one hundred billion dollars!































http://diplodocus.1md.be/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/evil.jpg


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: BitTickets on December 25, 2013, 05:50:38 PM
I don't think only looking at trendlines really works here. Bitcoin is getting more popular, but there are also more and more bitcoins and altcoins. I'd say it may go up to 2k, but the growing is going to slow down.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 26, 2013, 01:35:56 AM
If its the same distance to the exponential trendline as now the price would be at roughly $7000. If its at the trendline the price will be roughly $2500, and if its at the bottom trendline it will be around $750. The most optimistic value would be $10000. If there is a S-kurve developing, there can be no resonable upper price limit imho. So basically more than $750 and less than infinite (probaly less than $10000).

Less than infinite? You are a genius sir :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: txiki73 on December 26, 2013, 02:46:39 AM
$7000-$8000


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: bitpower on December 26, 2013, 05:03:47 AM
my wild guess 15 000 dollars or more

I remember 3 months ago some people guessed the network hashrate might get around 1000 TH by the end of 2013. Look where we are now :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: BitChick on December 26, 2013, 05:19:08 AM
We went from about $15 at the beginning of 2013 to about $700 right now (we are still not done with 2013 either) and most of you think all it will do in 2014 will rise to $2000-$7000?  BTC increased in value about 50x this year.  If we multiply $700 X 50 we get $35,000.  I think that is totally realistic because people are just starting to hear about BTC and we are on the brink of more companies using and accepting BTC as well.

My expectations, that are based on the past behavior of BTC and the exponential growth rate is that we will hit $35,000 to even $50,000 by the end of next year.  



Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: stompix on December 26, 2013, 07:10:21 AM
We went from about $15 at the beginning of 2013 to about $700 right now (we are still not done with 2013 either) and most of you think all it will do in 2014 will rise to $2000-$7000?  BTC increased in value about 50x this year.  If we multiply $700 X 50 we get $35,000.  I think that is totally realistic because people are just starting to hear about BTC and we are on the brink of more companies using and accepting BTC as well.

My expectations, that are based on the past behavior of BTC and the exponential growth rate is that we will hit $35,000 to even $50,000 by the end of next year.  



Based on your expectations , if those come true indeed , what will happen next year?
We continue this pattern?
35k*50?  so 1 BTC will be worth 1 750 000 - 2 250 000?


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Ducky1 on December 26, 2013, 07:28:52 AM
If its the same distance to the exponential trendline as now the price would be at roughly $7000. If its at the trendline the price will be roughly $2500, and if its at the bottom trendline it will be around $750. The most optimistic value would be $10000. If there is a S-kurve developing, there can be no resonable upper price limit imho. So basically more than $750 and less than infinite (probaly less than $10000).

Less than infinite? You are a genius sir :)

It will become infinity when $ dies (not next year)  ;)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 26, 2013, 08:34:44 AM
If its the same distance to the exponential trendline as now the price would be at roughly $7000. If its at the trendline the price will be roughly $2500, and if its at the bottom trendline it will be around $750. The most optimistic value would be $10000. If there is a S-kurve developing, there can be no resonable upper price limit imho. So basically more than $750 and less than infinite (probaly less than $10000).

Less than infinite? You are a genius sir :)

It will become infinity when $ dies (not next year)  ;)

1) $ isn't the only currency in the world. Hardly the most important these days.
2) Learn something about infinity before applying it to ..... anything.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: stompix on December 26, 2013, 09:01:46 AM
If its the same distance to the exponential trendline as now the price would be at roughly $7000. If its at the trendline the price will be roughly $2500, and if its at the bottom trendline it will be around $750. The most optimistic value would be $10000. If there is a S-kurve developing, there can be no resonable upper price limit imho. So basically more than $750 and less than infinite (probaly less than $10000).

Less than infinite? You are a genius sir :)

It will become infinity when $ dies (not next year)  ;)

1) $ isn't the only currency in the world. Hardly the most important these days.

2) Learn something about infinity before applying it to ..... anything.

So , which is the most important in your view?
Because by the way you said that , there are a lot more important that $ and I really can't figure them out.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: medialab101 on December 26, 2013, 09:06:16 AM


This should have been a poll.

Anyways, I vote:

$1,750 - $3,000   :-*


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 26, 2013, 10:45:47 AM
If its the same distance to the exponential trendline as now the price would be at roughly $7000. If its at the trendline the price will be roughly $2500, and if its at the bottom trendline it will be around $750. The most optimistic value would be $10000. If there is a S-kurve developing, there can be no resonable upper price limit imho. So basically more than $750 and less than infinite (probaly less than $10000).

Less than infinite? You are a genius sir :)

It will become infinity when $ dies (not next year)  ;)

1) $ isn't the only currency in the world. Hardly the most important these days.

2) Learn something about infinity before applying it to ..... anything.

So , which is the most important in your view?
Because by the way you said that , there are a lot more important that $ and I really can't figure them out.

bitcoin obviously ;)

Seriously, the dollar has to collapse under the weight of its debt within the next 18 months. Other currencies will step up to fill the void, bitcoin included we all hope. But not to infinity or beyond...


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 26, 2013, 10:51:03 AM
We went from about $15 at the beginning of 2013 to about $700 right now (we are still not done with 2013 either) and most of you think all it will do in 2014 will rise to $2000-$7000?  BTC increased in value about 50x this year.  If we multiply $700 X 50 we get $35,000.  I think that is totally realistic because people are just starting to hear about BTC and we are on the brink of more companies using and accepting BTC as well.

My expectations, that are based on the past behavior of BTC and the exponential growth rate is that we will hit $35,000 to even $50,000 by the end of next year.  

Except it doesn't work like this. You can't assume that because it grew so much in one year it will continue to do so the next.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 26, 2013, 11:02:20 AM
We went from about $15 at the beginning of 2013 to about $700 right now (we are still not done with 2013 either) and most of you think all it will do in 2014 will rise to $2000-$7000?  BTC increased in value about 50x this year.  If we multiply $700 X 50 we get $35,000.  I think that is totally realistic because people are just starting to hear about BTC and we are on the brink of more companies using and accepting BTC as well.

My expectations, that are based on the past behavior of BTC and the exponential growth rate is that we will hit $35,000 to even $50,000 by the end of next year.  

Except it doesn't work like this. You can't assume that because it grew so much in one year it will continue to do so the next.

Yep. If only life was so simple. If it did increase the same amount % as 2013 year on year for several years we would indeed get pretty close to infinity pretty quickly. Its not gonna happen. I would settle for a 2 to 3 times increase in 2014.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: hilariousandco on December 26, 2013, 11:11:41 AM
We went from about $15 at the beginning of 2013 to about $700 right now (we are still not done with 2013 either) and most of you think all it will do in 2014 will rise to $2000-$7000?  BTC increased in value about 50x this year.  If we multiply $700 X 50 we get $35,000.  I think that is totally realistic because people are just starting to hear about BTC and we are on the brink of more companies using and accepting BTC as well.

My expectations, that are based on the past behavior of BTC and the exponential growth rate is that we will hit $35,000 to even $50,000 by the end of next year.  

Except it doesn't work like this. You can't assume that because it grew so much in one year it will continue to do so the next.

Yep. If only life was so simple. If it did increase the same amount % as 2013 year on year for several years we would indeed get pretty close to infinity pretty quickly. Its not gonna happen. I would settle for a 2 to 3 times increase in 2014.

Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong, I think it is going to grow by quite a bit in 2014, but it could also crash quite a lot too. Governments may start clamping down or restricting it, and just look what effect China alone had on the value.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 26, 2013, 11:48:15 AM
We went from about $15 at the beginning of 2013 to about $700 right now (we are still not done with 2013 either) and most of you think all it will do in 2014 will rise to $2000-$7000?  BTC increased in value about 50x this year.  If we multiply $700 X 50 we get $35,000.  I think that is totally realistic because people are just starting to hear about BTC and we are on the brink of more companies using and accepting BTC as well.

My expectations, that are based on the past behavior of BTC and the exponential growth rate is that we will hit $35,000 to even $50,000 by the end of next year.  

Except it doesn't work like this. You can't assume that because it grew so much in one year it will continue to do so the next.

Yep. If only life was so simple. If it did increase the same amount % as 2013 year on year for several years we would indeed get pretty close to infinity pretty quickly. Its not gonna happen. I would settle for a 2 to 3 times increase in 2014.

Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong, I think it is going to grow by quite a bit in 2014, but it could also crash quite a lot too. Governments may start clamping down or restricting it, and just look what effect China alone had on the value.

On the plus side, it went from $20 to $1000 this year, and currently $750, so its been a good 2013 :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: stompix on December 26, 2013, 12:31:50 PM
If its the same distance to the exponential trendline as now the price would be at roughly $7000. If its at the trendline the price will be roughly $2500, and if its at the bottom trendline it will be around $750. The most optimistic value would be $10000. If there is a S-kurve developing, there can be no resonable upper price limit imho. So basically more than $750 and less than infinite (probaly less than $10000).

Less than infinite? You are a genius sir :)

It will become infinity when $ dies (not next year)  ;)

1) $ isn't the only currency in the world. Hardly the most important these days.

2) Learn something about infinity before applying it to ..... anything.

So , which is the most important in your view?
Because by the way you said that , there are a lot more important that $ and I really can't figure them out.

bitcoin obviously ;)

Seriously, the dollar has to collapse under the weight of its debt within the next 18 months. Other currencies will step up to fill the void, bitcoin included we all hope. But not to infinity or beyond...

Before that bitcoin should solve the Schrodinger dilemma and become either currency or commodity or god knows what it is right now :).

BUT
You said right now , not in the future.
So , which are more important right now? Not in the 18 months you think the dollar will collapse which I find it rather impossible.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 26, 2013, 12:39:44 PM
If its the same distance to the exponential trendline as now the price would be at roughly $7000. If its at the trendline the price will be roughly $2500, and if its at the bottom trendline it will be around $750. The most optimistic value would be $10000. If there is a S-kurve developing, there can be no resonable upper price limit imho. So basically more than $750 and less than infinite (probaly less than $10000).

Less than infinite? You are a genius sir :)

It will become infinity when $ dies (not next year)  ;)

1) $ isn't the only currency in the world. Hardly the most important these days.

2) Learn something about infinity before applying it to ..... anything.

So , which is the most important in your view?
Because by the way you said that , there are a lot more important that $ and I really can't figure them out.

bitcoin obviously ;)

Seriously, the dollar has to collapse under the weight of its debt within the next 18 months. Other currencies will step up to fill the void, bitcoin included we all hope. But not to infinity or beyond...

Before that bitcoin should solve the Schrodinger dilemma and become either currency or commodity or god knows what it is right now :).

BUT
You said right now , not in the future.
So , which are more important right now? Not in the 18 months you think the dollar will collapse which I find it rather impossible.

Hybrids are all the rage these days. It can be currency, commodity, protocol and so much more.

As for the US$, I just don't believe in it as a viable currency going forward. You can only have your cake and eat it for so long. The US has gorged itself. What's the current debt? How many zeros does it have after it?

So its sunk right now. Just will take a while to "unwind". And the US owes most of the money they can't pay back to China, so draw your own conclusions from that.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: stompix on December 26, 2013, 12:58:51 PM



Hybrids are all the rage these days. It can be currency, commodity, protocol and so much more.

As for the US$, I just don't believe in it as a viable currency going forward. You can only have your cake and eat it for so long. The US has gorged itself. What's the current debt? How many zeros does it have after it?

So its sunk right now. Just will take a while to "unwind". And the US owes most of the money they can't pay back to China, so draw your own conclusions from that.

I have the impression you're avoiding the question :)
So , what's the currency or commodity or something that is more important than the $  right now? :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 26, 2013, 01:41:33 PM



Hybrids are all the rage these days. It can be currency, commodity, protocol and so much more.

As for the US$, I just don't believe in it as a viable currency going forward. You can only have your cake and eat it for so long. The US has gorged itself. What's the current debt? How many zeros does it have after it?

So its sunk right now. Just will take a while to "unwind". And the US owes most of the money they can't pay back to China, so draw your own conclusions from that.

I have the impression you're avoiding the question :)
So , what's the currency or commodity or something that is more important than the $  right now? :)

The dollar is dead. Any major currency that isn't in the level of debt the $ is in is more important right now. I've already mentioned China. You can find the rest yourself. If that's avoiding the issue, so be it.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Parazyd on December 26, 2013, 01:43:36 PM
^^ "Let's print more cash so it's worth even less." That's what I think of USD.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: empoweoqwj on December 26, 2013, 01:44:41 PM
^^ "Let's print more cash so it's worth even less." That's what I think of USD.

Exactly.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: stompix on December 26, 2013, 02:34:52 PM
^^ "Let's print more cash so it's worth even less." That's what I think of USD.

And then , taking China into account , how does it sound to peg your currency (the yuan) to this worthless junk like the $.
Not the best move right?


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: black_swan on December 26, 2013, 02:46:55 PM
I think it will go up to $2k around February, slowly decreasing to $1k and have another bubble beginning in October up to $3k.
By the end of 2014 we should be at $1.5k-$1.7k. We will not see crazy rallies as for the past years anymore
If LTC is introduced in gox, add $500 to the numbers above


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Ducky1 on December 26, 2013, 03:33:08 PM
If its the same distance to the exponential trendline as now the price would be at roughly $7000. If its at the trendline the price will be roughly $2500, and if its at the bottom trendline it will be around $750. The most optimistic value would be $10000. If there is a S-kurve developing, there can be no resonable upper price limit imho. So basically more than $750 and less than infinite (probaly less than $10000).

Less than infinite? You are a genius sir :)

It will become infinity when $ dies (not next year)  ;)

1) $ isn't the only currency in the world. Hardly the most important these days.
2) Learn something about infinity before applying it to ..... anything.

1) Since everybody else was using $ I did that to.. We can use ounces of gold instead maybe?
2) What do you want me to learn about  http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/d/2/4/d245777abca64ece2d5d7ca0d19fddb6.png


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Ducky1 on December 26, 2013, 03:35:20 PM
I think it will go up to $2k around February, slowly decreasing to $1k and have another bubble beginning in October up to $3k.
By the end of 2014 we should be at $1.5k-$1.7k. We will not see crazy rallies as for the past years anymore
If LTC is introduced in gox, add $500 to the numbers above

Bitcoin bubbles are not +50%, they are x10 to x25.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: igorr on December 26, 2013, 04:59:53 PM
40-60 USD


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Timetwister on December 26, 2013, 07:40:39 PM
There's so much optimism in this thread, that I don't think it will be much higher in 1 year. We need another big crash before it jumps.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Parazyd on December 26, 2013, 07:52:41 PM
My prophecy is getting close :D

Choo choo!


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: BitChick on December 26, 2013, 08:37:34 PM
We went from about $15 at the beginning of 2013 to about $700 right now (we are still not done with 2013 either) and most of you think all it will do in 2014 will rise to $2000-$7000?  BTC increased in value about 50x this year.  If we multiply $700 X 50 we get $35,000.  I think that is totally realistic because people are just starting to hear about BTC and we are on the brink of more companies using and accepting BTC as well.

My expectations, that are based on the past behavior of BTC and the exponential growth rate is that we will hit $35,000 to even $50,000 by the end of next year.  

Except it doesn't work like this. You can't assume that because it grew so much in one year it will continue to do so the next.

But it already has worked like this for the past couple of years, and next year should be an even bigger year with news, more companies investing, wall street getting involved.  I think I am being really conservative with these numbers basing it on this year's growth.  It could be even more then this.  I am not the only one that believes this either and I am not just guessing at these numbers.  This is just based on the adoption curve of new technologies and there has been proof already that we are on a logarithmic growth scale that seems to be fairly accurate.  The big "crashes" just bring the price closer to this scale and we continue on.  The really good traders out there are the ones that can predict when the price is over this growth rate and sell accordingly.  I am not always confident that the price will keep dropping or when the top of the rises are so I just hold but there is some definite math involved here that can be used if studied.

What I am trying to say is that $2000 to $3000 is not realistic.  That is way too low of a number.  Call me crazy or just bring this thread back in December of 2014 and see who was right.

I think I am.  I am holding.  :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on December 26, 2013, 08:40:34 PM

What I am trying to say is that $2000 to $3000 is not realistic.  That is way too low of a number.  Call me crazy or just bring this thread back in December of 2014 and see who was right.

I think I am.  I am holding.  :)

So have you put your entire life savings into BTC?


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: ThatDGuy on December 26, 2013, 09:05:12 PM
We went from about $15 at the beginning of 2013 to about $700 right now (we are still not done with 2013 either) and most of you think all it will do in 2014 will rise to $2000-$7000?  BTC increased in value about 50x this year.  If we multiply $700 X 50 we get $35,000.  I think that is totally realistic because people are just starting to hear about BTC and we are on the brink of more companies using and accepting BTC as well.

My expectations, that are based on the past behavior of BTC and the exponential growth rate is that we will hit $35,000 to even $50,000 by the end of next year.  

Except it doesn't work like this. You can't assume that because it grew so much in one year it will continue to do so the next.

But it already has worked like this for the past couple of years, and next year should be an even bigger year with news, more companies investing, wall street getting involved.  I think I am being really conservative with these numbers basing it on this year's growth.  It could be even more then this.  I am not the only one that believes this either and I am not just guessing at these numbers.  This is just based on the adoption curve of new technologies and there has been proof already that we are on a logarithmic growth scale that seems to be fairly accurate.  The big "crashes" just bring the price closer to this scale and we continue on.  The really good traders out there are the ones that can predict when the price is over this growth rate and sell accordingly.  I am not always confident that the price will keep dropping or when the top of the rises are so I just hold but there is some definite math involved here that can be used if studied.

What I am trying to say is that $2000 to $3000 is not realistic.  That is way too low of a number.  Call me crazy or just bring this thread back in December of 2014 and see who was right.

I think I am.  I am holding.  :)

Right there with you.  10K plus *seems* crazy right now - but so did 1k.  So did $200.  So did $30.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Parazyd on December 26, 2013, 09:13:53 PM
Love the way you think.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: stompix on December 26, 2013, 09:38:44 PM
We went from about $15 at the beginning of 2013 to about $700 right now (we are still not done with 2013 either) and most of you think all it will do in 2014 will rise to $2000-$7000?  BTC increased in value about 50x this year.  If we multiply $700 X 50 we get $35,000.  I think that is totally realistic because people are just starting to hear about BTC and we are on the brink of more companies using and accepting BTC as well.

My expectations, that are based on the past behavior of BTC and the exponential growth rate is that we will hit $35,000 to even $50,000 by the end of next year.  

Except it doesn't work like this. You can't assume that because it grew so much in one year it will continue to do so the next.

But it already has worked like this for the past couple of years, and next year should be an even bigger year with news, more companies investing, wall street getting involved.  I think I am being really conservative with these numbers basing it on this year's growth.  It could be even more then this.  I am not the only one that believes this either and I am not just guessing at these numbers.  This is just based on the adoption curve of new technologies and there has been proof already that we are on a logarithmic growth scale that seems to be fairly accurate.  The big "crashes" just bring the price closer to this scale and we continue on.  The really good traders out there are the ones that can predict when the price is over this growth rate and sell accordingly.  I am not always confident that the price will keep dropping or when the top of the rises are so I just hold but there is some definite math involved here that can be used if studied.

What I am trying to say is that $2000 to $3000 is not realistic.  That is way too low of a number.  Call me crazy or just bring this thread back in December of 2014 and see who was right.

I think I am.  I am holding.  :)

Think of your numbers as playing martingale starting with 100.
1 , 2 , 4 , 8  and when it hits 16 (1600) the things are begging to look scary.

And , why should this increase stop in 2015 , 1,25 millions by 2015?
50 millions in 2016?


Also the price was around 14$ in jan 2013 and 2$ in 2012. that's just 7x.
According to your logic , the growth in the next year would be 350x.  ( 7 50 350)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on December 26, 2013, 10:09:25 PM
not sure about end 2014 (kind of arbitrary date end of year anyway) ... currently we are stabilising around the $750ish level, picking the next stable level I think we should approach that by early-mid 2015 in the 7,500-13,000 range, possibly peaking as high as 25,000 by end-2014 before dropping back.

Edit: also upside surprises will come out of Europe and UK in 2014, Russia, Eastern Europe and South America, Singapore, South Africa and various island tax havens and gambling locales which have wealth stored in the order of trilions that need to be moved around privately regularly.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: BitChick on December 26, 2013, 10:26:09 PM

What I am trying to say is that $2000 to $3000 is not realistic.  That is way too low of a number.  Call me crazy or just bring this thread back in December of 2014 and see who was right.

I think I am.  I am holding.  :)

So have you put your entire life savings into BTC?

Yes actually.  Can't say we had that much to put in, but all we could afford to.  Of course, I understand that it could all be worth nothing if something fatal happened, but the odds of that happening are decreasing as time goes on.  I think the odds of it reaching $35,000 are even better than $0 at this point.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on December 26, 2013, 10:37:27 PM

What I am trying to say is that $2000 to $3000 is not realistic.  That is way too low of a number.  Call me crazy or just bring this thread back in December of 2014 and see who was right.

I think I am.  I am holding.  :)

So have you put your entire life savings into BTC?

Yes actually.  Can't say we had that much to put in, but all we could afford to.  Of course, I understand that it could all be worth nothing if something fatal happened, but the odds of that happening are decreasing as time goes on.  I think the odds of it reaching $35,000 are even better than $0 at this point.

BitChick has demonstrated unflinchingly over a long period of time that she has more bitcoin balls than the most of the bullish bitcoin bulls ... and all power to her. (I'm a quiet admirer :))


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: shmadz on December 26, 2013, 11:48:31 PM
<snip>
So have you put your entire life savings into BTC?
</snip>

This comment gave me pause for a moment while I tried to determine what my "entire life savings" actually was.

 I did not intend to put my entire life savings into BTC, but once I started mining, and re-investing mining profits into more mining, BTC has now become an exceedingly large portion of my "entire life savings"

I did not intend for this to be the case, but it seems that BTC cares not for my intentions.

Kudos to BitChick btw. "Strength of your convictions" and all that.

*edit, forgot to respond to OP question: *

I expect the price to be over 10,000 at some point before the end of 2014, but I wouldn't even hazard a guess at where it will end up.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: BitChick on December 27, 2013, 12:58:45 AM

What I am trying to say is that $2000 to $3000 is not realistic.  That is way too low of a number.  Call me crazy or just bring this thread back in December of 2014 and see who was right.

I think I am.  I am holding.  :)

So have you put your entire life savings into BTC?

Yes actually.  Can't say we had that much to put in, but all we could afford to.  Of course, I understand that it could all be worth nothing if something fatal happened, but the odds of that happening are decreasing as time goes on.  I think the odds of it reaching $35,000 are even better than $0 at this point.

BitChick has demonstrated unflinchingly over a long period of time that she has more bitcoin balls than the most of the bullish bitcoin bulls ... and all power to her. (I'm a quiet admirer :))

Ahhh.  Thanks! :)  Holding has not hurt us yet!  We even purchased into the April run and were underwater a little for a several months.  But we did not invest more than we could afford to lose and we really do believe that this is just the beginning of something revolutionary.

I can say that November was epic.  It totally surprised us!  We did not sell any coins though.  In fact, we just end up buying a little more on the dip.  Just what we could afford to buy, which was very little with Christmas and hubby's new car! ;) We decided that there was no way we would use Bitcoin to buy the car though.  We learned from a few on here that they regretted that mistake.  Some, like Goat, with thousands of coins I can't blame though.  They should be taking advantage of the value of the coins already!  Hopefully next year we will be at that point.  

All that said, we are not huge holders by any means.



Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: BitChick on December 27, 2013, 01:04:10 AM
<snip>
So have you put your entire life savings into BTC?
</snip>

This comment gave me pause for a moment while I tried to determine what my "entire life savings" actually was.

 I did not intend to put my entire life savings into BTC, but once I started mining, and re-investing mining profits into more mining, BTC has now become an exceedingly large portion of my "entire life savings"

I did not intend for this to be the case, but it seems that BTC cares not for my intentions.

Kudos to BitChick btw. "Strength of your convictions" and all that.

*edit, forgot to respond to OP question: *

I expect the price to be over 10,000 at some point before the end of 2014, but I wouldn't even hazard a guess at where it will end up.

Some people's "life savings" are not that exciting!  ;)  However, thanks to BTC, it is now much more exciting than it was! We have never been great savers, unfortunately.  We did have some though.  I guess the benefit for us has been that we are not really used to having any savings anyway so having it all tied up in Bitcoin does not feel like we are living any differently.  We have had the mentality to give to charities generously, enjoy life, go on vacations, and have basically just used the money God has blessed us with and not really worried about tomorrow.  However, with two kids and college to plan for someday, I was thinking we should really start to be a little more conscientious and BitChicksHusband introduced me to Bitcoin and we decided to give it a try.  So thankful we at least had a little to throw in.  And YES it is our kid's college fund.  If it goes to $0 then they end up going to state schools, like they would have anyways.  But if we get the returns we might get next year, not only will we be able to afford to send them to almost any college they want, we may even have some left over.  :)  We can dream anyways.  But at this point it is a "no lose" situation for us.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: hvezdasmrti on December 27, 2013, 01:53:33 AM
My prediction: 6666.66 because satan loves BTC. Last days and over christmas the 666.66 was very common price. And LTC will be sold for 66.66 of course. However the price will be stable like political situation in middle Africa. And it will be the last golden age of bitcoin, it will fall suddenly and will be replaced by something else.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: DoomDumas on December 27, 2013, 04:05:28 AM
Arround 10k is my bet..

Bitcoin is growing so fast, and just begins to be known.  I expect a lot of devellopment and big news for 2014.

It should be a very exiting year :)



Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: BitchicksHusband on December 27, 2013, 04:08:28 AM
Ups and downs in between? common guys speculate thats what we are here for

Okay completely wild numbers...

Short term (now to mid Jan 2014) I expect a drop -- a sharp one.  Longer term, up up and away.  Wall Street has funds that are all about buying it.  Political stuff could introduce some speed bumps.  But here are the 3 predictions:

#1 -- Drop to around $375 between now and January 20, 2014.

#2 -- Increase to over $1800 by May 30, 2014.

#4 -- End 2014 in the $2500 to $3000 range.




Okay, quoting myself here now, I'm going to go ahead and assert that #1 above has now come to fruition.  I see Bitstamp touched 382.21 last night which technically is not $375, but I did say around $375, so I think it qualifies.  (Camp BX claims it hit $300, but I'm not sure it technically qualifies as an exchange.)

Now it's time to buy with both hands. :-)



If you bought a coin at CampBx the price would probably double ;)

I could be such a whale on there if I were so inclined.  It was fun to pick up more coins on the bad China news, though.

And yes, we have virtually our whole life savings in bitcoin now.  As shmadz said, it doesn't start out that way, it just ends up like that.  We have some sell points that we haven't hit yet, but when we do I will retire.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: BitChick on December 27, 2013, 04:34:39 AM
Ups and downs in between? common guys speculate thats what we are here for

Okay completely wild numbers...

Short term (now to mid Jan 2014) I expect a drop -- a sharp one.  Longer term, up up and away.  Wall Street has funds that are all about buying it.  Political stuff could introduce some speed bumps.  But here are the 3 predictions:

#1 -- Drop to around $375 between now and January 20, 2014.

#2 -- Increase to over $1800 by May 30, 2014.

#4 -- End 2014 in the $2500 to $3000 range.




Okay, quoting myself here now, I'm going to go ahead and assert that #1 above has now come to fruition.  I see Bitstamp touched 382.21 last night which technically is not $375, but I did say around $375, so I think it qualifies.  (Camp BX claims it hit $300, but I'm not sure it technically qualifies as an exchange.)

Now it's time to buy with both hands. :-)



If you bought a coin at CampBx the price would probably double ;)

I could be such a whale on there if I were so inclined.  It was fun to pick up more coins on the bad China news, though.

And yes, we have virtually our whole life savings in bitcoin now.  As shmadz said, it doesn't start out that way, it just ends up like that.  We have some sell points that we haven't hit yet, but when we do I will retire.

And some of you wonder why I am so patient and unconcerned about the price rising?  BitChick is not sure she is ready for BitChicksHusband to go into early retirement yet! ;)  (Just kidding of course.  It will be great.  Hubby can pursue some hobbies/programming projects at home and hopefully we can travel more if all goes well!)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: viboracecata on December 27, 2013, 04:47:08 AM
As the date approaching, who will be the winner?


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: BitChick on December 27, 2013, 04:51:26 AM
As the date approaching, who will be the winner?

I think we still have an entire year until the end of 2014. ;)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: stompix on December 27, 2013, 09:38:12 AM
My prediction: 6666.66 because satan loves BTC. Last days and over christmas the 666.66 was very common price. And LTC will be sold for 66.66 of course. However the price will be stable like political situation in middle Africa. And it will be the last golden age of bitcoin, it will fall suddenly and will be replaced by something else.


You know , Satan doesn't own all the bitcoins. Buddha has some , Shiva and Allah some and there are a lot of Kami(s) with a few BTC each.
So , it could be 12(000) , 9413 ,  4949 :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Parazyd on December 27, 2013, 10:20:18 AM
I have some too, and I'm the obscure bitcoiner.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: vadoff on December 27, 2013, 06:39:02 PM
$19800


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Timetwister on December 27, 2013, 06:57:58 PM
Is there any exchange offering options on BTC price? Many of you should just buy calls :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: nodroids on December 29, 2013, 03:15:21 PM
$5750 no problem barring people being thrown in jail for ever having traded bitcoin (but that might just be more proof of the need to hold bitcoin). Remember the fork last year that was fixed in under a day and saw the price drop from near $50 to $39 (tiny 1 week correction) so ya, I don't really think internal technical problems are that big an issue.

We have to get above $1350 just to keep it profitable for the smaller miners. They will mostly get shaken out, but not that quickly. I also think that all is too quiet on the global financial front right now, but a crisis will come sometime in the next 12 months, bail-ins are still very much in play. Taxes are going to increase throughout the globe, hiding money will become paramount for the very wealthy.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: nodroids on December 29, 2013, 04:03:29 PM

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Right there with you.  10K plus *seems* crazy right now - but so did 1k.  So did $200.  So did $30.
[/quote]

Hear hear! I'm being conservative with my $5750 USD valuation at end of 2014. I remember when it crashed from $266, I was crossing my fingers and praying for one more rally just to $500-600. $1000 + seemed like to much to hope for. So I see it getting as high as about $12000 at least. But I think banksters will get the governments to start arresting BTC traders when we see it approaching $10,000. So it will fall back quite a lot.

Yes, %75 of our life savings (not that much) is now being deployed. Remember though, our life savings is already up 35x since putting half of our life savings in at the beginning of 2013 (and taking some profit along the way)... Our earning power this year in fiat has also been good, so there are more savings to get into BTC.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: igorr on December 29, 2013, 07:17:22 PM
$ 40-60 USD


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: koosBR on December 29, 2013, 07:56:55 PM
1.500 USD - 3.000 USD


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: NineLives on December 31, 2013, 12:32:20 PM
3k


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: skivrmt on January 05, 2014, 02:56:04 PM
I think it will reach $2000 dollars. People will begin to adopt and trust bitcoins, and the price will rise accordingly. I do not see a huge growth spurt however until far into the future. There are just too many people who adopted low that will sell once the value reaches a certain point and they have made the profits they want to that will continually hold bitcoins back from growing even further.

I agree with this.  My prediction is also ~2k which I would be very happy about.  People keep point out that we grew from $1-$100-$1000.  But its not just about price.  Each level requires so much more NEW money involved for it to grow.  From $100-$1000 we required ~9 billion USD of new money.  For it to grow to $10k we would need almost $100B in NEW money.  I'm not saying it -can't- happen, but that's a lot fo money in 1 years time!


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: ucerpucerp on January 05, 2014, 03:00:49 PM
Honestly, 5K is believable, even if it can meet several falls before reaching this price.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Paya on January 05, 2014, 03:53:32 PM
I'd say around 5000$, at least. But as usual, it's going to be a bumpy ride and not everyone will enjoy it.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on January 05, 2014, 05:37:49 PM
Above 10000 USD on MtGox!

think so too but you cant withdraw  :P


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: TPN on January 05, 2014, 05:55:55 PM
It will at least double in price.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: skivrmt on January 05, 2014, 08:34:42 PM
Above 10000 USD on MtGox!

think so too but you cant withdraw  :P

Exactly.  Why do we even care what the price on Gox is?  US withdrawals basically can't be made.  There's a thread of how long people have been waiting.  And in the last couple of months even Euro withdrawals are taking 2+ months if even happening for any amount over $1-2k. 

Its $1k+ right now on Gox.  But I'm going the "real" price is $924 on Stamp and $925 on Coinbase.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: johncarpe64 on February 18, 2014, 03:50:22 PM
5$ and litecoin would be at 1000$


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Cyberlight on February 18, 2014, 05:09:35 PM
$ 27,440


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: alrachid on February 19, 2014, 03:54:41 AM
Its hard to say, but I think it depends whether or not whales go for a big push.  If they decide to push it, I think we could see 4k+ if they dont do it, then I think 1500$. It's all speculation though.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: vehementchrome on February 19, 2014, 04:13:45 AM
Its hard to say, but I think it depends whether or not whales go for a big push.  If they decide to push it, I think we could see 4k+ if they dont do it, then I think 1500$. It's all speculation though.
Yeah, I agree with you. Just about anyway. I think it's more likely it'll be around 1,500 though.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: triplexoid on February 19, 2014, 10:24:28 AM
Not less than 100 $, not more than 1500$


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: DubFX on February 19, 2014, 11:44:30 AM
If bitcoin will be bitcoin again in 2014 then we'll see minimum ~$7,500 by end of year.

Unless we continue tracking the double exponential function, which puts us at $10,000 by May 16, 2014 and $100,000 by August 23, 2014.

 8)
:D a bit too mutch optimistic don't you think?


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: igorr on February 19, 2014, 11:56:26 AM
For two month 30 usd


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: azguard on February 20, 2014, 08:00:01 AM
Quote
Not less than 100 $, not more than 1500$

This i very possible but i expect to something big happen in April or in the end of march.

BTC will be no less then 200$ , but i doubt that it will pass 1200$, maybe at the end of year go ever 2k


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: allaa on February 20, 2014, 02:09:58 PM
I don't think there is place for speculation any way. I am expecting over time bitcoin shall be more stable to the point of total stagnation. Other currencies, well thats other kind of problem. There are more place for speculation there. Besides it is hard to tell what new powers shall try to get on bitcoin market. China tried  something, other countrys might try too. Maybe some country with less stable financial situation might try use more endure option for sudden changes of market. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if people finally lose they confidence in dollar and might try something else. Investment in gold is dull and not always profitable. Even though with minimal risk gold and diamonds value always were artificial in some way.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: sawani on February 20, 2014, 10:46:49 PM
I think it's either going to be over $6k or nothing.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Nortan12rx on February 21, 2014, 04:49:33 AM
maybe end and maybe not :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: azguard on February 21, 2014, 05:58:24 AM
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I don't think there is place for speculation any way. I am expecting over time bitcoin shall be more stable to the point of total stagnation. Other currencies, well thats other kind of problem. There are more place for speculation there. Besides it is hard to tell what new powers shall try to get on bitcoin market. China tried  something, other countrys might try too. Maybe some country with less stable financial situation might try use more endure option for sudden changes of market. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if people finally lose they confidence in dollar and might try something else. Investment in gold is dull and not always profitable. Even though with minimal risk gold and diamonds value always were artificial in some way.

True, i think that it will happen twice like last year that bitcoin will jump high and then go low


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: aminorex on February 21, 2014, 06:53:05 AM
between 12 and 18k before 2015.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: atleticofa on February 21, 2014, 11:37:59 AM
More than 5000$


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: apsvinet on February 21, 2014, 03:27:50 PM
Waiting for mods to move this thread, quite funny quote.
"Speculate guys that's what we're here for".
I'm pretty sure that's what the sub-forum "Speculation" is for.
But it was a nice thought :))


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Kaligulax on February 24, 2014, 10:44:13 AM
My desire: 10.000$
realistic: 800$


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: TrailingComet on February 24, 2014, 10:49:34 AM
$3000 to $5000


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Kaligulax on February 24, 2014, 02:45:25 PM
First when we get rid of MTGOX.... good time for BTC will begin


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: apsvinet on February 25, 2014, 03:08:07 PM
My desire: 10.000$
realistic: 800$
I find this post to be the most accurate so far.
I think this year started too bad to get that -huge-
increase in the next 10 months, however, we can
hope 2015 will be the -real- rise of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: giantdragon on February 25, 2014, 04:06:39 PM
Thinking realistically, no more than $2000 and no less than $500.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: T-800 on February 25, 2014, 04:54:55 PM
Around 4000 is my guess.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: painlord2k on February 27, 2014, 01:49:08 PM
from a top of 10K $ to a minimum of 4K $
Higher is the top and the subsequent crash happen earlier this year.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: skivrmt on March 01, 2014, 07:38:16 PM
from a top of 10K $ to a minimum of 4K $
Higher is the top and the subsequent crash happen earlier this year.


Obviously I think most, if not all, of us would love to see this.  But would be the driving force behind the price jumping that much?  And yes, its -that- much since it need Billions of new fiat in it at this point to increase the price that much. 


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: jztxeno on March 01, 2014, 11:30:51 PM
between $1.500 - $3.000 I think.
 
No one can predict it ;)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: kireinaha on March 02, 2014, 08:43:43 AM
bitcoin is binary baby, so either zero or $100,000 by December. to the moon!

for those of you who think you're too late, remember, old chinese saying: best time to plant tree is 30 years ago. second best time is today.

but don't forget... don't invest more than you're willing to lose!

and for all you naysayers out there, i just want to leave you with this: "first they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - warren buffet



Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: dyask on March 02, 2014, 08:52:00 AM
between $1.500 - $3.000 I think.
 
No one can predict it ;)

You seriously think BTC will go back to be less than $5?   ;D   (Hint:   $1.500 isn't the same as $1500 or $1,500 for most people)   


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: shockload on March 02, 2014, 09:04:30 AM
from a top of 10K $ to a minimum of 4K $
Higher is the top and the subsequent crash happen earlier this year.


Obviously I think most, if not all, of us would love to see this.  But would be the driving force behind the price jumping that much?  And yes, its -that- much since it need Billions of new fiat in it at this point to increase the price that much. 

Most people where you live. It means the same for hundreds of millions of people....


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: abit2slo on March 02, 2014, 06:15:56 PM
between $1.500 - $3.000 I think.
 
No one can predict it ;)

You seriously think BTC will go back to be less than $5?   ;D   (Hint:   $1.500 isn't the same as $1500 or $1,500 for most people)   

Good comment! Everyone needs to know how to write correctly.
That's funny I fit to minority as I was reading this without my glasses and didn't notice that mistake


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: GambleX on March 02, 2014, 07:04:49 PM
Given the high volatility of bitcoin I would guess the following

75%  400$-1800$
12.5% <400$
12.5% >1800$


Good comment! Everyone needs to know how to write correctly.
That's funny I fit to minority as I was reading this without my glasses and didn't notice that mistake

That comment is very self centered... Just because people from the U.S. write it in that fashion, doesn't means that everyone does it that way.

Just google: "european decimal mark"


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: odetopsyche on March 02, 2014, 07:10:57 PM
Looks to me that bitcoin keeps trying to get above $1000 and then losing support. I think we may have to wait at least a few more months for the infrastructure to grow a new price foundation before we get any serious growth in prices again.

So basically guessing around $950.

That being said, I am wrong more than I am right. Which is why I only buy and hold. I am good at investing (seeing the fundamentals), terrible at speculating (anticipating herd behavior).



This sums up my experience as well.

Only two events worry me long-term with bitcoin:

1) The wide-spread acceptance and use of a crypto 2.0 like Ethereum is the only development that I believe could set bitcoin back.

2) Massive unloading of bitcoin by the minority that own the majority of existing bitcoins.

Of these two, I think the first is the only real worry. (Even if a minority unloaded bitcoin, this would only corrode the value of Bitcoin in the short term).


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: EvilPanda on March 03, 2014, 02:05:54 AM
I'd say ~$1000, only a major series of positive events will keep the price above 1k. It will probably bounce off it a few times before passing, which might take months.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: giantdragon on March 03, 2014, 03:35:33 AM
The wide-spread acceptance and use of a crypto 2.0 like Ethereum is the only development that I believe could set bitcoin back.
I think Etherium will create another niche (decentralized contracts and shares) which won't interfere with Bitcoin's one (payment system and the way to save capital from confiscation).


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: dyask on March 03, 2014, 05:11:43 AM
Given the high volatility of bitcoin I would guess the following

75%  400$-1800$
12.5% <400$
12.5% >1800$


Good comment! Everyone needs to know how to write correctly.
That's funny I fit to minority as I was reading this without my glasses and didn't notice that mistake

That comment is very self centered... Just because people from the U.S. write it in that fashion, doesn't means that everyone does it that way.

Just google: "european decimal mark"

Perhaps it is self centered, but we are mostly using ASCII here so it can be confusing since the '.' separator looks the same as the '.' decimal point.   I've noticed that most just try to avoid the confusion as it is totally unnecessary for small values.   Also '$' is typically USD so one would expect US based notation. 

Sorry for going off-topic.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: dyask on March 03, 2014, 05:13:58 AM
I'm betting on a peak around $1800 this year would be more inline with growth the prior years.   I think the surge to $1200 was a temporary bubble and we are now closer to the real value of bitcoin.  (~577 @ bitstamp right now.)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: shockload on March 03, 2014, 08:26:19 AM
Given the high volatility of bitcoin I would guess the following

75%  400$-1800$
12.5% <400$
12.5% >1800$


Good comment! Everyone needs to know how to write correctly.
That's funny I fit to minority as I was reading this without my glasses and didn't notice that mistake

That comment is very self centered... Just because people from the U.S. write it in that fashion, doesn't means that everyone does it that way.

Just google: "european decimal mark"

Perhaps it is self centered, but we are mostly using ASCII here so it can be confusing since the '.' separator looks the same as the '.' decimal point.   I've noticed that most just try to avoid the confusion as it is totally unnecessary for small values.   Also '$' is typically USD so one would expect US based notation. 

Sorry for going off-topic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark

Nothing to do with ASCII.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: maurya78 on March 03, 2014, 08:39:17 AM
I call it now at $2000-2500

Think adoption will increase but that this year will be more about consolidation at all levels


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: dyask on March 03, 2014, 09:34:48 AM
Given the high volatility of bitcoin I would guess the following

75%  400$-1800$
12.5% <400$
12.5% >1800$


Good comment! Everyone needs to know how to write correctly.
That's funny I fit to minority as I was reading this without my glasses and didn't notice that mistake

That comment is very self centered... Just because people from the U.S. write it in that fashion, doesn't means that everyone does it that way.

Just google: "european decimal mark"

Perhaps it is self centered, but we are mostly using ASCII here so it can be confusing since the '.' separator looks the same as the '.' decimal point.   I've noticed that most just try to avoid the confusion as it is totally unnecessary for small values.   Also '$' is typically USD so one would expect US based notation.  

Sorry for going off-topic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark

Nothing to do with ASCII.

I stand corrected.  Nothing to do with ASCII.   They use a ',' for the decimal point.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: 25104070 on March 03, 2014, 12:19:10 PM
I think at least 2000 usd  ;D


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: DANIEL77 on March 03, 2014, 06:19:47 PM
I think 1200$-1400$.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Robif on March 03, 2014, 06:55:52 PM
between $1.500 - $3.000 I think.
 
No one can predict it ;)

+5%


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: igorr on March 03, 2014, 07:23:16 PM
40-50 usd


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: TD Games on March 03, 2014, 08:21:19 PM
Hackers and scammer will prevent the Bitcoin from skyrocketing. At the end of 2014 the price will stay stable at $500 - $750.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Garryashas on March 04, 2014, 05:21:41 PM
This thread made me confused about what will be at the end of the year. The forecast are opposite and only time will tell us who is right


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: apsvinet on March 04, 2014, 05:36:28 PM
Hackers and scammer will prevent the Bitcoin from skyrocketing. At the end of 2014 the price will stay stable at $500 - $750.
Scammers are only a problem if people are stupid enough to get scammed.
Be cautious and don't give away your ****ing money to anyone. You wouldn't do it with your real currency, why would you with bitcoins?
Be aware of investment and ponzi schemes and you'll be fine.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: igorr on March 04, 2014, 05:46:21 PM
Check this !

http://www.dodaj.rs/f/V/JM/4H6veSvX/yyy.jpg


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: glendall on March 04, 2014, 10:46:07 PM
Hackers and scammer will prevent the Bitcoin from skyrocketing. At the end of 2014 the price will stay stable at $500 - $750.
Scammers are only a problem if people are stupid enough to get scammed.
Be cautious and don't give away your ****ing money to anyone. You wouldn't do it with your real currency, why would you with bitcoins?
Be aware of investment and ponzi schemes and you'll be fine.

It's not always that easy unfortunately.  Some scams are super obvious, but not all of them.

I've been scammed a couple of times and the last was pretty hard to predict. I was using Bitfunder to buy shares in Asicminer.  Worked a few months no problem. Then suddenly the owner, Jon Montrol, stopping allowing withdrawals. And poof money gone. He accepted money from hundreds of users knowing he was unable to pay them back, it seems he was using the deposits as his own personal wallet.

The only way to be safe is to completely not involve yourself in any of the bitcoin economy, which kind of sucks. I fucking hate scammers with a passion.

 


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: moriartypants on March 05, 2014, 08:16:39 PM

A trend is a trend! 
You saw it here first folks, race to the bottom by mid summer! 
Bitcoin to the ground! Fiat to the moon!


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: marcus1986 on March 06, 2014, 01:52:36 PM
I think more than $3000.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Predatorian on March 06, 2014, 01:56:12 PM
I think more than $3000.

Naah maybe little more than 1k$ but we will see that in future.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: igorr on March 06, 2014, 08:51:01 PM

A trend is a trend! 
You saw it here first folks, race to the bottom by mid summer! 
Bitcoin to the ground! Fiat to the moon!

I will capture new screenshot 1.april 2014 year, and we can together to compare price and trend.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: jefe541 on March 06, 2014, 09:03:13 PM
I bet it will reach 1500$ in 2 months!


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: differential350 on March 06, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
3000 dollars  ;D


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: edukoBIT on March 06, 2014, 11:31:35 PM
I think 9500$  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: clout on March 07, 2014, 02:20:59 AM
$100


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Tirapon on March 07, 2014, 02:22:50 AM
$3141.59



Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: kireinaha on March 07, 2014, 04:47:51 AM
I think it will go up to $2k around February, slowly decreasing to $1k and have another bubble beginning in October up to $3k.
By the end of 2014 we should be at $1.5k-$1.7k. We will not see crazy rallies as for the past years anymore
If LTC is introduced in gox, add $500 to the numbers above

what a difference two months make :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: apsvinet on March 07, 2014, 10:35:24 AM
I think it will go up to $2k around February, slowly decreasing to $1k and have another bubble beginning in October up to $3k.
By the end of 2014 we should be at $1.5k-$1.7k. We will not see crazy rallies as for the past years anymore
If LTC is introduced in gox, add $500 to the numbers above

what a difference two months make :)
Haha, I love the quote about LTC and Gox.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: igorr on March 07, 2014, 03:41:44 PM

the first quarter of 2014 will be over soon, and we have the price 630 usd, and constant falls......


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Predatorian on March 07, 2014, 03:59:53 PM
http://emsnews.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/screen-shot-2014-03-06-at-12-24-00-pm.png

Got feelings btc gonna raise after couple of weeks.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: igorr on March 07, 2014, 04:11:16 PM
The next target is about 400 usd


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Danglebee on March 07, 2014, 04:34:32 PM
i think $1800 USD july
but december $250-300 USD.

suspect major event cause giant spike. then die down. as seem trend.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: igorr on March 07, 2014, 04:42:58 PM
For the growth price we need another Mtgox that will artificially to raise the price, and then turn into a white dwarf, and bumm

http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1z/HD/2or2ne8y/aa.jpg


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: coerdy on March 08, 2014, 10:22:32 AM
At the end of March  2014 , the price will skyrock to 800 USD , mark my words , there is something big comming ..


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Dafar on March 08, 2014, 03:06:40 PM
I really hope it's over $2000...... in December I was confident it would be. Now I'm not sure what to think... anything can happen


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: igorr on March 08, 2014, 04:45:17 PM
LOL, we have again Goxxing, about 60k bitcoins purchased for only 12h  FAKE :D

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9830/qnlj.jpg (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/qnlj.jpg/)View Screen Capture (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/qnlj.jpg/)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Omega0255 on March 08, 2014, 05:13:00 PM
LOL, we have again Goxxing, about 60k bitcoins purchased for only 12h  FAKE :D

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9830/qnlj.jpg (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/qnlj.jpg/)View Screen Capture (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/qnlj.jpg/)

Yeah what was with that meteoric rise?


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: igorr on March 08, 2014, 05:20:46 PM
LOL, we have again Goxxing, about 60k bitcoins purchased for only 12h  FAKE :D

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9830/qnlj.jpg (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/qnlj.jpg/)View Screen Capture (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/qnlj.jpg/)

Yeah what was with that meteoric rise?

false jump because Bitstamp controls everything, just as it controlled before MtGox,
and that is what led to the collapse of a currency exchange MtGox

Fake jump,
Fake jump,
Fake jump,
and eventually collapse


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Borut_the_men on March 08, 2014, 06:49:20 PM
Go to BitStamp website, they had a revision. I think, that they don't facking.
https://www.bitstamp.net/article/statemen-regarding-recent-third-party-audit-report/


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: retrend on March 09, 2014, 05:33:47 AM
I think we will probably end up near $5000 by the end of this year.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: testcoin on March 09, 2014, 08:52:06 AM
I guess I'll be more than happy if bitcoin price can just stay at the current level (above $600) at the end of 2014.  :D

And don't crash again please.



Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: rhyso on March 09, 2014, 09:33:51 AM
I know people seem to think that difficulty and price have no correlation, but I beg to differ.

There is a lot of money pouring into mining machines and this is pumping the difficulty through the roof.

As the hashrate and difficulty surpass the moon and onto pluto... many small time buyers will not invest in 1 or 50 or 200 GH mining equipment, the power will not be worth it... instad they will invest in bitcoin itself.

As a small time miner I noticed the BTC guild hashrate decline as the price appraoched $500 and then spike again as it surpassed $600.

I see with the current trajectory of difficulty and hashrate the price exploding well over $1000 some time this year and adjusting back to around the price of an ounce of gold.

I also see gold rising to about $1500-$1700 so I am guessing BTC will be $1600 at the end of december 2014...

but who the hell knows...

If obama places sanctions on russia, which would be stupid but since when to those idiots act rationally, this will also play a role in the price of gold and BTC.

BTC to the moon! HODL




Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: smoothie on March 09, 2014, 09:38:56 AM
between $2500 and $5000


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: toy4lov3rs on March 09, 2014, 09:45:27 AM
Probably between $100 - $1000, because sending money to exchanges is risky I dont see much more adoption to happen unless this problem is solved


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: thy on March 09, 2014, 04:44:02 PM
In the longer perspective price will go up, when we get to the summer if not earlier we should be back up in the 1000-1500 USD/BTC range again and at the end of the year lets say that we're at 7247.93 USD/BTC


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: aminorex on March 09, 2014, 07:25:51 PM
between $2500 and $5000
This


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: yohanstra on March 09, 2014, 10:33:20 PM
I think that Bitcoin could hit ~$5000 at the end of 2014.  If we look at the growth over 2013 (from $12 to $1000), and consider that Bitcoin is only just barely reaching the mainstream, it's clear that there still a huge potential for growth.

This current lull in the price is likely because of the bad press we've been receiving lately (because of the crash of mtgox), and I think that Bitcoin will emerge from this event stronger and more stable.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: apsvinet on March 09, 2014, 11:29:56 PM
I see a lot of people predicting a very high rise by the end of the year.
Why? Is anyone able to bring up some solid arguments or backup for these predictions?
I'm not saying you're wrong, just curious.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: negsulyts on March 09, 2014, 11:31:42 PM
Easy go to 3k at the end of the year


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Taras on March 10, 2014, 02:36:23 PM
$1000+
Not sure about new ath though


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: theskillzdatklls on March 10, 2014, 03:19:23 PM
$3-5k


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Cyberlight on March 10, 2014, 08:41:19 PM
 $ 17.362


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: faiza1990 on March 10, 2014, 08:43:17 PM
$3-5k
I sure at the end of this year we are in this figure if another gox not happen to this bitcoin


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: E.exchanger on March 10, 2014, 09:32:18 PM
no one can predict about that far for sure not even an approx guess will be close you can definately predict about month or two later like i've heard that by the end of April btc will be somewhere around 1k (fingers crossed). everyone was predicting and hoping that btc will cross 2k but since the gox mess things have been changed  :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: ThirdRenaissance on March 10, 2014, 09:48:40 PM
Looking at a log graph I think the gox effect is largely overestimated. The price development is still perfectly in line with the logarithmic growth rate we have seen since the beginning, plus/minus the usual volatility of course. At this rate 3-5k by year's end is not an unrealistic projection.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: kroleg on March 11, 2014, 05:34:48 PM
It's so volatile that's it requires so much knowledges and luck to make any forecast


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: faiza1990 on March 11, 2014, 05:45:40 PM
It's so volatile that's it requires so much knowledges and luck to make any forecast
Yes no one can predict about this bitcoin mostly talking with guesses or rumors


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: apsvinet on March 11, 2014, 05:49:00 PM
no one can predict about that far for sure not even an approx guess will be close you can definately predict about month or two later like i've heard that by the end of April btc will be somewhere around 1k (fingers crossed). everyone was predicting and hoping that btc will cross 2k but since the gox mess things have been changed  :)
Every month so far has begun with "By the end of this month BTC will be worth [insert any amount that's higher than current worth here]."
15 days in to the month "Whops, well this was just another crash, but stick around, next month it will rise!!!".


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: igorr on March 11, 2014, 05:50:07 PM
If Bitstamp be as MtGox then the price will go to 2000 usd, and if Bistamp not be the same as MtGox then the price goes to 10 USD


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: hopey on March 11, 2014, 06:27:35 PM
10k


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: aminorex on March 11, 2014, 06:42:51 PM
It's so volatile that's it requires so much knowledges and luck to make any forecast
Yes no one can predict about this bitcoin mostly talking with guesses or rumors

If you can't predict, then you should not maintain a position in it.  Leave that to those who can predict.  If it makes you feel better to think that no one can predict, then feel free to do so, but don't expect everyone else to just give up because you find something hard.  Prediction does not need to be perfect, precise, or exact in order to be useful. 


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: daoneway on March 11, 2014, 06:46:32 PM
6k to 10k.


i should buy some coins...  ::)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: moriartypants on March 11, 2014, 07:41:31 PM
Every month so far has begun with "By the end of this month BTC will be worth [insert any amount that's higher than current worth here]."
15 days in to the month "Whops, well this was just another crash, but stick around, next month it will rise!!!".


As annoying as this is  re Bitcoin,  it's even worse with the Alts.  (And I mean even the real alts, not just P&Ds)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: PolarPoint on March 11, 2014, 08:30:05 PM
Do not think bitcoins will pass $1000 in 2014, may be in 2015. Too much bad news so far.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: BidcoinBernd on March 11, 2014, 08:45:43 PM
50$-200$


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: JonBosco on March 11, 2014, 08:46:46 PM
Do not think bitcoins will pass $1000 in 2014, may be in 2015. Too much bad news so far.

a lot can happen in 9 months.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: BitChick on March 11, 2014, 09:41:03 PM
Do not think bitcoins will pass $1000 in 2014, may be in 2015. Too much bad news so far.

a lot can happen in 9 months.

How about 9 days, or even 9 hours.   ;D 

Who really wants "slow and steady" growth.  Volatility is much more exciting!


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: TD Games on March 11, 2014, 09:47:59 PM
Do not think bitcoins will pass $1000 in 2014, may be in 2015. Too much bad news so far.

a lot can happen in 9 months.

True, but it's most likely more BTC-services are getting hacked


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: donnymillions on March 11, 2014, 11:19:31 PM
Considering the impending economic meltdown about to unravel in the USA, I would venture to say bitcoin in relation to the US Dollar will be above 10,000 to 1.

You have to ask your self what will you do when buying a gallon of milk requires $45 and wages remained the same? Bitcoin can and will buffer you from that scenario


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: keithers on March 11, 2014, 11:40:57 PM
I am thinking between $800-$900 by end of $2014... It will probably go slightly above that, and obviously below that.   I would be surprised if we sustain above $1000 in 2014


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: apsvinet on March 12, 2014, 01:33:42 AM
Do not think bitcoins will pass $1000 in 2014, may be in 2015. Too much bad news so far.

a lot can happen in 9 months.

How about 9 days, or even 9 hours.   ;D 

Who really wants "slow and steady" growth.  Volatility is much more exciting!
Haha, I have to agree with you. While slow and steady ( as the expression may suggest )
is a good slow growth, explosions and crashes makes it all a bit more interesting.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: cooltoadfrommoon on March 12, 2014, 03:04:14 AM
i would say 3000 USD by the end of year  ;D


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: rohan1 on March 12, 2014, 08:39:51 AM
over 1K USD.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Heater on March 12, 2014, 11:24:17 AM
Before 31 Dec 2014 there will be a new ATH at least $4000 USD


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: zzojar on March 12, 2014, 06:49:01 PM
really, you guys think exponential growth still? My guess is $2000.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: tkbx on March 13, 2014, 01:30:45 AM
I think it will get back in the $1000-$1200 range of December '13, maybe a little higher ($1500 max), but I don't expect much growth until a Fortune 100 company begins accepting it, which will probably be at least 2 years, maybe more.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: kolesozw on March 13, 2014, 01:36:41 AM
probably between 200 and 2000, with small chance between 0-200 and 2000-10000

just my guess


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: verdun2003 on March 14, 2014, 04:15:42 PM
Around 5k usd if there's a 4th bubble. Otherwise around 1-1.5k


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: BitChick on March 14, 2014, 04:29:58 PM
Around 5k usd if there's a 4th bubble. Otherwise around 1-1.5k

There were two bubbles in 2013. Why not in 2014?

I think we will have another "bubble" in May/June that will shoot the price up to about $4000 or so.  Then another period of consolidation for a few months then another shoot up in price around December to an ATH of $10,000 or more.  (I was originally hoping for $50,000 but with Mt. Gox closing and other issues we might have slower growth this year)  My speculation is just based on past performance and the adoption rate.  


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: keithers on March 14, 2014, 07:40:58 PM
probably between 200 and 2000, with small chance between 0-200 and 2000-10000

just my guess

you pretty much can't be wrong with your prediction unless it is somehow under $200 or over $10,000.   I would give you a 99% chance of being right :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: verdun2003 on March 14, 2014, 09:41:09 PM
Around 5k usd if there's a 4th bubble. Otherwise around 1-1.5k

There were two bubbles in 2013. Why not in 2014?

I think we will have another "bubble" in May/June that will shoot the price up to about $4000 or so.  Then another period of consolidation for a few months then another shoot up in price around December to an ATH of $10,000 or more.  (I was originally hoping for $50,000 but with Mt. Gox closing and other issues we might have slower growth this year)  My speculation is just based on past performance and the adoption rate.  

It's totally possible, which is why I state "if". I do believe the 10k mark is possible end of year as today, even with all the hype in 2013, there are still very few wallets - good thing is the build up of the merchant ecosystem with bitpay and coinbase that have more than 50k merchants together.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: justbtcme on March 15, 2014, 12:45:17 AM
1600 dollars


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: keithers on March 15, 2014, 01:13:04 AM
The length of time as a member here is almost directly correlated to the prediction of price by the end of 2014.   The older members here have the lower estimates, and the sky high estimates are from the newest people here..


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Cyberlight on March 15, 2014, 04:08:55 AM
The length of time as a member here is almost directly correlated to the prediction of price by the end of 2014.   The older members here have the lower estimates, and the sky high estimates are from the newest people here..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=367953.msg5557941#msg5557941

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=367953.msg5560409#msg5560409

Your theory don't hold up


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Dafar on March 15, 2014, 04:10:53 AM
The length of time as a member here is almost directly correlated to the prediction of price by the end of 2014.   The older members here have the lower estimates, and the sky high estimates are from the newest people here..

It should be the other way around


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: jparsley on March 17, 2014, 07:25:29 AM
I predict 1.5k to 2k by the end of 2014


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Joshuar on March 17, 2014, 12:26:09 PM
My guess is the price will either be above $1000 per bitcoin again, or bitcoin will fall and the price will be $.01 for a bitcoin as everyone flocks to a new cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: xephireusMMX on March 17, 2014, 12:30:03 PM
Above $100 definitively, maybe above $1000 if higher demand.
Bitcoin is good store of value right now


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: KIRAZ on March 18, 2014, 08:33:10 AM
Skyrocketing!!  :D Why not, Bitcoin will be the only thing..

http://politics.lilithezine.com/images/American-Dollar-Toilet-Paper.jpg


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: azguard on March 18, 2014, 10:59:14 AM
Quote
   
Re: Price at end of 2014?
March 13, 2014, 01:30:45 AM
   
Reply with quote  #263
I think it will get back in the $1000-$1200 range of December '13, maybe a little higher ($1500 max), but I don't expect much growth until a Fortune 100 company begins accepting it, which will probably be at least 2 years, maybe more.

Most likely will be price in quote up, highly will go to around 2000$ if same happens like in december last year if not price wont climb over 800 or 900$. Alt-coin will go up instead of BTC some of them are climbing slowly but predicted. Maybe going for alt-coin instead of BTC.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: spazzdla on March 19, 2014, 12:07:09 AM
623.37

TO BTC stabilization!


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: crazyivan on March 19, 2014, 06:00:23 AM
I d say 2000+


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: maurya78 on March 19, 2014, 06:51:12 AM
$1000-1500


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Initscri on March 19, 2014, 09:11:51 AM
Your guess is as good as mine.

I suspect $2000 (hopefully higher :P )

Best Quote for Bitcoin: "First rule of Wall Street, nobody, and I don’t care if you’re Warren Buffett or Jimmy Buffett, nobody knows if a stock’s going up or down, or *ucking sideways, least of all stock brokers. But we pretend to know." ~ The wolf of wall street.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: werrindor on March 19, 2014, 09:52:30 AM
$1000-1500
I think the same unless there would be some speculations, which only make any predictions difficult


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: keithers on March 19, 2014, 05:13:51 PM
I am still thinking the price will be between $800-$1200.   I know that is a pretty wide range, but we have a ways to go both economically and psychologically to break $1000 again..


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: bitcoincal on March 19, 2014, 09:21:59 PM
A little bit under a 1,000 usd. I think it will test it's highs before then though.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: apsvinet on March 22, 2014, 01:21:51 PM
And the price is sinking, again. Why is this?
( I've been gone for a few days ).


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: ssmc2 on March 22, 2014, 01:24:13 PM
Because bitcoin


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: apsvinet on March 22, 2014, 01:27:53 PM
Because bitcoin
2 post newbie members, get out. Go spam somewhere else.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: softron on March 22, 2014, 02:42:05 PM
Expecting bitcoins to go up to 2k by d end of the year.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: sir faps on March 22, 2014, 03:03:48 PM
Your guess is as good as mine.

I suspect $2000 (hopefully higher :P )

Best Quote for Bitcoin: "First rule of Wall Street, nobody, and I don’t care if you’re Warren Buffett or Jimmy Buffett, nobody knows if a stock’s going up or down, or *ucking sideways, least of all stock brokers. But we pretend to know." ~ The wolf of wall street.

You know this was a movie, right? Some people have a much better idea of whether a stock is going up or down than others. I agree though that bitcoin is difficult to predict price-action wise.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: apsvinet on March 23, 2014, 07:11:49 PM
Your guess is as good as mine.

I suspect $2000 (hopefully higher :P )

Best Quote for Bitcoin: "First rule of Wall Street, nobody, and I don’t care if you’re Warren Buffett or Jimmy Buffett, nobody knows if a stock’s going up or down, or *ucking sideways, least of all stock brokers. But we pretend to know." ~ The wolf of wall street.

You know this was a movie, right? Some people have a much better idea of whether a stock is going up or down than others. I agree though that bitcoin is difficult to predict price-action wise.
Lol, this is a bunch of ****. Of course you can predict the value rise / fall of a stock. It's just bitcoins that's quite hard to predict, but some companies / sites are actively doing quite well on that matter. Google is your friend.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: chriswilmer on March 23, 2014, 07:12:55 PM
$3200


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: apsvinet on March 23, 2014, 07:14:11 PM
I'm gonna bloody screenshot everyone's huge increase predictions and PM
them to them at the end of 2014, to rub it in their faces that it didn't rise
to ******* 10 000 USD, rofl.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: podyx on March 23, 2014, 07:33:19 PM
the trendline will be at $4k-5k in end of 2014

a line which bitcoin has followed since 2009


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Rockefeller on March 23, 2014, 07:42:46 PM
Your guess is as good as mine.

I suspect $2000 (hopefully higher :P )

Best Quote for Bitcoin: "First rule of Wall Street, nobody, and I don’t care if you’re Warren Buffett or Jimmy Buffett, nobody knows if a stock’s going up or down, or *ucking sideways, least of all stock brokers. But we pretend to know." ~ The wolf of wall street.

Good words! Totaly agree woth you and I think that it's will reach 3,000 dollars by the end of the year


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: bitleif on March 23, 2014, 07:44:05 PM
Exactly $3,731.92


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: igorr on March 23, 2014, 08:58:15 PM
50 usd


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: leopard2 on March 23, 2014, 09:41:47 PM
BTC can be 5000 USD, they are very useful and scarce, more useful and more scarce than USD certainly.

The inherent risk due to regulation is still on the table. Regulation can be good or bad, it depends.

But now there is another dark cloud, the Gox disease. Goxxing can only be bad for BTC. If the exchange ecosystem does not improve, it does not look good for cryptocurrencies. Gox, Poloniex, Coinex, Vircurex are recent examples, and cannot be considered teething problems anymore.

For large investors the best way forward right now would be to invest 50-50 into ecosystem and coins because the coins will not appreciate without the ecosystem.

We need stable reliable exchanges or decentralized exchanges. Insurance, segregated accounts are also options.

So 5000 and 50 are both on the table, targetwise.  :-\


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: moriartypants on March 24, 2014, 03:22:16 PM
Sad but true.

Actually, I am a little more pessimistic.  Bitcoin has a significant marketing problem for people who aren't already into it: Vulnerability.

So far early 2014 has done nothing but reinforce  this image to the people I know.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: gentlemand on March 24, 2014, 03:26:45 PM
Sad but true.

Actually, I am a little more pessimistic.  Bitcoin has a significant marketing problem for people who aren't already into it: Vulnerability.

So far early 2014 has done nothing but reinforce  this image to the people I know.

Multi sig and insured wallets plus exchanges run by people whose job it is to make money rather than steal or be stolen from is what 2014 is going to be remembered for.

Maybe the price action will be pathetic compared to previous years. What really counts is that the building blocks are being laid for a system with some credibility and sustainability. That's what people should be caring about right now. Once that's in place the gains will flow.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: apsvinet on April 19, 2014, 06:04:15 PM
50 usd
What kind of attitude is that? Could you at least elaborate on what your predictions are based on? :)


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: jubalix on April 19, 2014, 06:19:00 PM
its about 13 months for each order of magnitude, around Jan this year by my calcs we just cleared $100 floor. 10 K is ok, in 26 months.

What I am really interested in though is the 13 months after that. That's when we see change. Big change. 10k to 100K.

At that point, some fiat based currencies will be driven into extinction.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: keithers on April 19, 2014, 06:38:22 PM
looking back to the start of the thread, it is interesting to see the shift in public sentiment.   I don't think we will see a new ATH in 2014, but I think we will at least get close to 1k/BTC.  Ultimately I wholeheartedly believe we will see astronomical prices in the future, I just don't think the rise will ever be as rapid as Nov/Dec 2013.  Bitcoin is under the microscope of almost every major government, and when prices grow the scrutiny of governments is quick to follow...


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: Tx2000 on April 19, 2014, 06:42:49 PM
I think it will remain within the $300-$600 range throughout 2014.  Bitcoin went through a lot of bad things this year in particular and people are more hesistant about it.  It will take time to heal though I don't expect it to skyrocket again.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: jamesc760 on April 19, 2014, 06:44:16 PM
$502 on 12/31/2014.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: apsvinet on April 19, 2014, 06:52:22 PM
$502 on 12/31/2014.
Sadly I think that's accurate.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: jamesc760 on April 19, 2014, 06:58:49 PM
"At that point, some fiat based currencies will be driven into extinction."

You mean Z$? Surely not US$? Pray, tell us.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: apsvinet on April 19, 2014, 07:46:39 PM
I think it will remain within the $300-$600 range throughout 2014.  Bitcoin went through a lot of bad things this year in particular and people are more hesistant about it.  It will take time to heal though I don't expect it to skyrocket again.
No, it won't skyrockets unless we get some massive good news, due to the problems earlier.


Title: Re: Price at end of 2014?
Post by: nioc on April 19, 2014, 10:17:21 PM
Re: Price at end of 2014?

Yes it will have a price at end of 2014!

What I think it will be matters not.

I would like about $350K please and thank you.