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Title: Number of cards without powered risers?
Post by: AlliumPorrum on December 12, 2013, 07:35:19 AM
How many graphics cards (R9 280x) can motherboards handle without any powered risers? I think 2 is OK with any MB, but how about 3? Or is there any specific MB model that could handle even more of them?


Title: Re: Number of cards without powered risers?
Post by: Dr.What on December 12, 2013, 07:44:20 AM
I remember a thread talking about this and you seem to be spot on. If you're running 3 79xx/r280x just assume that you'll need a powered riser. I imagine that such risers are also getting a commensurate price squeeze.


Title: Re: Number of cards without powered risers?
Post by: dreamwatcher on December 12, 2013, 07:48:10 AM
In my experience..The answer is 3.

At 4 I seem to have a much greater chance of charring up the main MB power connector (Most cards will draw somewhere around 75 Watts through the MB).

I know, people will come in here and claim they run a dozen cards or whatever they want to claim without power risers.

I can only tell you what I have experienced in the few years of running my rigs. Without powered risers,at three cards I have only burned up one MB. At 4+ the number jumps.




Title: Re: Number of cards without powered risers?
Post by: PenAndPaper on December 12, 2013, 07:48:58 AM
As many as they fit i guess. Why should you require risers if there is space to put them on board?


Title: Re: Number of cards without powered risers?
Post by: laris2 on December 12, 2013, 07:50:26 AM
I'd go for max 3 cards with unpowered risers, more at your own risk!


Title: Re: Number of cards without powered risers?
Post by: dreamwatcher on December 12, 2013, 07:53:51 AM
As many as they fit i guess. Why should you require risers if there is space to put them on board?

Cooling. You are not going to run three cards at 100% 24/7 next to each other on the MB.

I believe two would even heat crash often. I run my rigs open air with a two shelf system. The MB on the bottom shelf and the GPUs on the upper shelf using risers.


Title: Re: Number of cards without powered risers?
Post by: r3animation on December 12, 2013, 07:58:02 AM
I had no issues with 3 unpowered risers on a matx board.

I would run powered risers on anything more then 4 but check if the motherboard also has an additional 12v input which some motherboards do like the Asrock which I would then run up to 5 unpowered risers.


Title: Re: Number of cards without powered risers?
Post by: AlliumPorrum on December 12, 2013, 08:06:00 AM
As many as they fit i guess. Why should you require risers if there is space to put them on board?

For what I have understood, there's a risk that motherboard will burn if too much power is taken thru the PCIe- slots.

For the cooling purposes, unpowered risers would be just fine.


Title: Re: Number of cards without powered risers?
Post by: mufa23 on December 12, 2013, 08:08:55 AM
I've never used powered cables. I used to run three 5830s on each motherboard for a good year or two without problems. Upgraded all of my rigs a few months back to 7950s. I am running two 7950s on each board right now without issues. Only reason I didn't use three or more was because all of my PSUs are 750w. If my PSUs where 900+w, I wouldn't have even given powered risers a second thought.


Title: Re: Number of cards without powered risers?
Post by: AlliumPorrum on December 12, 2013, 08:26:15 AM
I've never used powered cables. I used to run three 5830s on each motherboard for a good year or two without problems. Upgraded all of my rigs a few months back to 7950s. I am running two 7950s on each board right now without issues. Only reason I didn't use three or more was because all of my PSUs are 750w. If my PSUs where 900+w, I wouldn't have even given powered risers a second thought.

Yeah well as I thought, there shouldn't be any problems with 2 or even 3 cards. But how about 4 to 6 in one MB? Is there ANY motherboard that could handle such a load?


Title: Re: Number of cards without powered risers?
Post by: mufa23 on December 12, 2013, 08:50:11 AM
I've never used powered cables. I used to run three 5830s on each motherboard for a good year or two without problems. Upgraded all of my rigs a few months back to 7950s. I am running two 7950s on each board right now without issues. Only reason I didn't use three or more was because all of my PSUs are 750w. If my PSUs where 900+w, I wouldn't have even given powered risers a second thought.

Yeah well as I thought, there shouldn't be any problems with 2 or even 3 cards. But how about 4 to 6 in one MB? Is there ANY motherboard that could handle such a load?
Friend of mine ran five XFX 5850s earlier this Spring without powered cables.


Title: Re: Number of cards without powered risers?
Post by: 2Alpha on December 12, 2013, 09:03:25 AM
Most boards have a power allotment on the PCIe Bus you can normally run 3 cards with out putting a drain on the bus but more then three you normally need extra power so you don't burn up the MB or the video cards. At least this is my experience