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Title: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: RAMSHIVDEEPAK on May 09, 2018, 03:27:44 PM
There are a lot of posts, which are not useful or wrong information or one words post. These type posts are spam and they are increasing the no. of post only nothing valuable addition.

For this, There is an option in every post "report to the moderator", So we should report to moderator, that will help in reducing the spam post. So this is my humble request to all member that report to the moderator if you find spam post.

In my opinion, if we give some rewards to the member, who do such work, then it will encourage the member to do. By this way, we can reduce the existing spam post and discourage the spam writer in future.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on May 09, 2018, 03:33:31 PM
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In my opinion, if we give some rewards to the member, who do such work, then it will encourage the member to do. By this way, we can reduce the existing spam post and discourage the spam writer in future.

... and then the abusers start working with two type of bots instead of one , one for spamming the other for reporting, perfectly working system, ico bumping, developing accounts for sale and getting rewards for reporting at the same time. The best reward can be the report rate listed under merit score.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: digaran on May 09, 2018, 03:38:11 PM
Last time I said that I'm going to report a lot in order to become a mod, they tagged my ass. be careful you guys posting on such threads. no strangers are allowed to be here and act as a mod.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: InvoKing on May 09, 2018, 03:41:40 PM
... and then the abusers start working with two type of bots instead of one , one for spamming the other for reporting, perfectly working system, ico bumping, developing accounts for sale and getting rewards for reporting.

Soon people will request payment for every hour spent on bitcointalk...

@OP : There are mods dedicated for busting abusers, if users want to report infringements, they are welcome.

The best reward can be the report rate listed under merit score.
Now this is an interesting suggestion. It might be a good feature.

Edit :
Last time I said that I'm going to report a lot in order to become a mod, they tagged m...
Seeing the negative trust, well, i don't see what is the relation between the two things.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: hilariousetc on May 09, 2018, 04:20:03 PM
I wouldn't be against some perks for those that report a lot. I think it would be beneficial because reporting is an utterly thankless task even though it helps out the forum a lot (and the chances of becoming a mod by merely a huge volume of reports happens less these days). It's quite sad to see spam threads or threads being in the wrong section for days even after pages of replies and not a single person has reported it (time is money I guess and people would rather post than report). Maybe an additional rank could be achieved after so many reports or maybe even a prize for those that report the most. I'm sure some nice perks could be thought up/given to encourage users to keep on reporting.

Last time I said that I'm going to report a lot in order to become a mod, they tagged my ass. be careful you guys posting on such threads. no strangers are allowed to be here and act as a mod.

Maybe don't be such a:

https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_806776.jpg


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on May 09, 2018, 05:01:25 PM
If 2% of the forum users / lets say with a bit higher rank / check the Patrol page /btw it could be good if it can be enabled by default when you reach member rank/ for 5 min once a day, things will be much different but.. I do share some time every time I log in just to report some easy to spot shitposter, sometimes I dig a little more and find much more shocking and abusive things, but hey that's me, I'm not after rewards for this, just hoping to make this place better, because I like it, I like the people here too..
Sorry got carried away...

... and then the abusers start working with two type of bots instead of one , one for spamming the other for reporting, perfectly working system, ico bumping, developing accounts for sale and getting rewards for reporting.

Soon people will request payment for every hour spent on bitcointalk...

@OP : There are mods dedicated for busting abusers, if users want to report infringements, they are welcome.

The best reward can be the report rate listed under merit score.
Now this is an interesting suggestion. It might be a good feature.

I was thinking about this before, you can have a different type of measure of your profile together with the trust and merit,but it can be only informative so no negative
 impacts on the profile, or maybe a additional rank based on it like the copper member now.
Of course you can play with it a lot more, like put a different "weight" on the reports like reporting just a "naic proekt sir" have one but reporting homograph attack or copy/pasting have bigger weight.
I guess it is just time consuming and I don't think that will have so big impact on the global reporting side, but for sure will make some people to chase the scores just for the sport :)


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: LoyceV on May 09, 2018, 06:55:32 PM
I wouldn't be against some perks for those that report a lot.
The perks are a cleaner forum :D

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I think it would be beneficial because reporting is an utterly thankless task
An update on the top 50 reporters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2166379.msg21740582#msg21740582) list would be nice, to give bragging rights ;) Seeing that list is what made me realize I can report much more posts than I did, and for months now I've been reporting more than I post.

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Maybe an additional rank could be achieved after so many reports or maybe even a prize for those that report the most. I'm sure some nice perks could be thought up/given to encourage users to keep on reporting.
A custom title or something would be a cool perk. Or just a "top reporter" note in the profile.
I'm not reporting for a prize, I just really hate spam.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: Husires on May 09, 2018, 07:20:52 PM
why Administrator/Global Moderator in that list? Do they also report? ???

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1532365.msg15429237#msg15429237 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1532365.msg15429237#msg15429237)

An update on the top 50 reporters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1532365.msg15429237#msg15429237) list would be nice, to give bragging rights ;) Seeing that list is what made me realize I can report much more posts than I did, and for months now I've been reporting more than I post.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: LoyceV on May 09, 2018, 08:10:28 PM
why Administrator/Global Moderator in that list? Do they also report? ???
Maybe they reported a lot before they became moderator?


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: botany on May 09, 2018, 08:32:31 PM
What would happen if the spam moved from the various boards to the moderators' queues?
Already there are many reports which have not been handled.....


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: Welsh on May 09, 2018, 08:35:31 PM
I've said this before, but I find reporting and seeing them get dealt with quite therapeutic. That's my reward, but I guess I'm weird like that.

What would happen if the spam moved from the various boards to the moderators' queues?
Already there are many reports which have not been handled.....

It would either get theymos' attention due to reports not being handled, and the more not getting handled signals the more in need of a moderator for that particular section/permission group or it would allow existing moderators to deal with them when they have time.

I'm not sure what sections you are reporting in, but most of my reports are dealt with within a few hours. I've had some take a few days but, they do get dealt with.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: botany on May 09, 2018, 09:02:09 PM
It would either get theymos' attention due to reports not being handled, and the more not getting handled signals the more in need of a moderator for that particular section/permission group or it would allow existing moderators to deal with them when they have time.

I'm not sure what sections you are reporting in, but most of my reports are dealt with within a few hours. I've had some take a few days but, they do get dealt with.

The list of top 50 reporters also mentions the number of unhandled posts.
This may not be due to paucity of moderators, but it will definitely increase if people are given incentives to start reporting posts.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: Welsh on May 09, 2018, 09:12:40 PM
The list of top 50 reporters also mentions the number of unhandled posts.
This may not be due to paucity of moderators, but it will definitely increase if people are given incentives to start reporting posts.
True, but AFAIK that doesn't mean they aren't being looked at. It might just mean that the moderator was unable to determine whether the report was good or bad and left it. I imagine quite a few people aren't being very descriptive on why they are reporting a post.

I'm also going to go out on a whim here, and assume that posts which have been reported, but the thread is removed will be seen as unhandled. I might be wrong here.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: otrkid1970 on May 09, 2018, 09:49:10 PM
Do i get a reward for reporting this Shitty OP?  Just saying.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: coinlocket$ on May 09, 2018, 09:55:32 PM
Rewarding the report maybe (with merit) is very dangerous, knowing the nature of the human race some people could create 50 fake accounts to spam and report with the main account to "abuse".


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: Welsh on May 09, 2018, 09:59:41 PM
Rewarding the report maybe (with merit) is very dangerous, knowing the nature of the human race some people could create 50 fake accounts to spam and report with the main account to "abuse".

Besides the abuse; This isn't what merit should be given for. Merit is for good quality posts, and shouldn't be rewarded for any other reason other than that. Personally, I don't think there needs to be a reward, and that shows in the stats. People are reporting (some in large quantities) and will continue to do so for a better forum.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: Lutpin on May 09, 2018, 10:26:02 PM
I'm also going to go out on a whim here, and assume that posts which have been reported, but the thread is removed will be seen as unhandled. I might be wrong here.
That's wrong. When a posts/thread gets deleted, all reports of the post are marked as good.

True, but AFAIK that doesn't mean they aren't being looked at. It might just mean that the moderator was unable to determine whether the report was good or bad and left it.
Unhandled can also be used when a moderator doesn't choose to act on a report, but doesn't want to influence the accuracy of the reporter in any way.
Since unhandled reports are ignored for accuracy calculations, they could be seen as "dismissed".

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I think it would be beneficial because reporting is an utterly thankless task
An update on the top 50 reporters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1532365.msg15429237#msg15429237) list would be nice, to give bragging rights ;) Seeing that list is what made me realize I can report much more posts than I did, and for months now I've been reporting more than I post.
Exists (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2166379.msg21740582#msg21740582).


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: Welsh on May 09, 2018, 10:35:15 PM
That's wrong. When a posts/thread gets deleted, all reports of the post are marked as good.
I had a feeling this was the case, but just couldn't find any information on it when I searched it up. It's good to know though. I'm guessing that this would apply to nuked accounts too? Also, banned accounts without the users posts being deleted would likely be handled manually as the posts still exist if the above is true.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: theymos on May 09, 2018, 10:58:57 PM
It's been suggested many times, and it's not a bad idea in principle, but in practice it would create a perverse incentive where people would want more reportable posts so that they could get more rewards. Almost certainly, some people would start spamming on alts just so that they could report the spam on another account and get rewarded. There are a few things that could be done to impede this sort of behavior, but on the whole it'd be too difficult to detect abuse and not worthwhile. So there will almost certainly never be any real reward for reporting, though some purely cosmetic things are not impossible.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: 9jaflick on May 09, 2018, 11:47:16 PM
There are a lot of posts, which are not useful or wrong information or one words post. These type posts are spam and they are increasing the no. of post only nothing valuable addition.

For this, There is an option in every post "report to the moderator", So we should report to moderator, that will help in reducing the spam post. So this is my humble request to all member that report to the moderator if you find spam post.

In my opinion, if we give some rewards to the member, who do such work, then it will encourage the member to do. By this way, we can reduce the existing spam post and discourage the spam writer in future.
Who's going to pay you, MOD? How much do you pay Mods for using this forum? Did MOD generate income from bitcointalk users?
if you want to report spammers go ahead you're welcome, but don't ask for payment.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: Thirdspace on May 09, 2018, 11:55:19 PM
Yes mate, very good suggestion. I am thinking if I should hit the report to the moderator for this post  ;D
:D ;D :P

... and then the abusers start working with two type of bots instead of one , one for spamming the other for reporting, perfectly working system, ico bumping, developing accounts for sale and getting rewards for reporting at the same time. The best reward can be the report rate listed under merit score.
that's exactly what immediately crossed my mind after I read OP post, another way to abuse forum
as long as the reward is trivial or simple perk then it's fine I guess

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Maybe an additional rank could be achieved after so many reports or maybe even a prize for those that report the most. I'm sure some nice perks could be thought up/given to encourage users to keep on reporting.
A custom title or something would be a cool perk. Or just a "top reporter" note in the profile.
I'm not reporting for a prize, I just really hate spam.
I agree. a simple custom title perk might stir people interest to help tidying up the forum
but as theymos said, giving real reward would create more problems than solve the current ones
I hope he would consider the 'custom title' perk suggestion as possible reward ;)


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: InvoKing on May 09, 2018, 11:57:15 PM
RAMSHIVDEEPAK you got the answer from theymos so no need to keep this post open.
Bottom of the page, left corner and lock topic.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: hilariousetc on May 10, 2018, 07:55:09 AM
I wouldn't be against some perks for those that report a lot.
The perks are a cleaner forum :D



But the forum isn't clean when barely anyone is reporting and a duplicate thread asking a dumb question or even breaks the rules is still there days later and on its tenth page of spam.

It's been suggested many times, and it's not a bad idea in principle, but in practice it would create a perverse incentive where people would want more reportable posts so that they could get more rewards. Almost certainly, some people would start spamming on alts just so that they could report the spam on another account and get rewarded. There are a few things that could be done to impede this sort of behavior, but on the whole it'd be too difficult to detect abuse and not worthwhile. So there will almost certainly never be any real reward for reporting, though some purely cosmetic things are not impossible.

I think it would be inevitable that it would be abused in some capacity especially if there was a cash reward or something, but everything here is abused: merits, trust, ranks etc. I think it would be fairly easy for staff to spot mass abuse though. Anyone who cares about their account here wouldn't risk it so you could always limit it to certain ranks to stop people using bots and throwaways.

why Administrator/Global Moderator in that list? Do they also report? ???

You have to have a lot of reports to become a mod in the first place, but you keep reporting when you're staff on boards that are out of your jurisdiction. Globals/Admins don't need to report as they don't need to but they'll still be on the list of top reporters because of the sheer volume of reports and it'll take a while for others to catch up.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: LoyceV on May 10, 2018, 08:20:04 AM
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I think it would be beneficial because reporting is an utterly thankless task
An update on the top 50 reporters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1532365.msg15429237#msg15429237) list would be nice, to give bragging rights ;) Seeing that list is what made me realize I can report much more posts than I did, and for months now I've been reporting more than I post.
Exists (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2166379.msg21740582#msg21740582).
Thanks, that is the link I meant, but I found and posted an older link. I was not in the top 50 in September 2017, where #50 has 606 reports. That means I've made around 80% or more of my reports in the last 8 months.

I agree. a simple custom title perk might stir people interest to help tidying up the forum
but as theymos said, giving real reward would create more problems than solve the current ones
I hope he would consider the 'custom title' perk suggestion as possible reward ;)
It could actually lead to a huge increase in "easy reports": go to the altcoin or off-topic board, report 1000 posts, and get perks. Even though it's just 1000 out of millions of bad posts, getting posts deleted gives spammers the idea they don't get away with it all the time.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: Flash Cunt on May 10, 2018, 11:48:25 AM
Do i get a reward for reporting this Shitty OP?  Just saying.

Give the poor cunt a chance, he's just trying to beg for merits.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: Flying Hellfish on May 10, 2018, 12:24:16 PM
Do i get a reward for reporting this Shitty OP?  Just saying.

Give the poor cunt a chance, he's just trying to beg for merits.


I thought your catch phrase (I mean other than pajeet) was shit cunt, I rather like that one.  Shit cunt is pretty awesome if you ask me!


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on May 10, 2018, 12:51:49 PM
Perhaps thermos can reward users with 10,000 good reports a brand new Lamborghini  ;D.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: Lutpin on May 10, 2018, 05:12:40 PM
Perhaps thermos can reward users with 10,000 good reports a brand new Lamborghini.
I'll take mine in purple, kkthxbb.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: jonemil24 on May 10, 2018, 09:54:59 PM
It's been suggested many times, and it's not a bad idea in principle, but in practice it would create a perverse incentive where people would want more reportable posts so that they could get more rewards. Almost certainly, some people would start spamming on alts just so that they could report the spam on another account and get rewarded. There are a few things that could be done to impede this sort of behavior, but on the whole it'd be too difficult to detect abuse and not worthwhile. So there will almost certainly never be any real reward for reporting, though some purely cosmetic things are not impossible.
Why don't just ban those users for spamming, if my memory doesn't fails me; a banned account could get an evil IP and it won't be able to post until that banned user pays.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: InvoKing on May 10, 2018, 11:27:21 PM
Why don't just ban those users for spamming
Then mods will need to spend more time to detect it and to deal with it...

if my memory doesn't fails me; a banned account could get an evil IP and it won't be able to post until that banned user pays.
It isn't that hard nor expensive to pay few cents for vpn/tor generated account tho.


Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: jankeman on May 11, 2018, 08:36:59 AM
There are a lot of posts, which are not useful or wrong information or one words post. These type posts are spam and they are increasing the no. of post only nothing valuable addition.

For this, There is an option in every post "report to the moderator", So we should report to moderator, that will help in reducing the spam post. So this is my humble request to all member that report to the moderator if you find spam post.

In my opinion, if we give some rewards to the member, who do such work, then it will encourage the member to do. By this way, we can reduce the existing spam post and discourage the spam writer in future.
Really mate, not to brag, but I have 100% report accuracy and have reported almost 20 posts (ik it's not that much)

But I don't do it for rewards, I do it to keep this forum clean against spammers

It's voluntary to report to the mods, they are not forcing you to report, unless you feel that it's breaking the rules



Title: Re: Report to the moderator -Deserve some rewards
Post by: seoincorporation on May 11, 2018, 05:29:51 PM
The "report to moderator button" is a TOOL for users. Of course, it depends on why are you here in the forum. If you are a compromised user, if you enjoy the forum and all the information you can find it here for FREE, then you enjoy the "Report to moderator" button, for it gives you the opportunity of making a collaboration in cleaning the forum.
So, this button is a privilege, if you look at it from this point of view.
Of course, if your only goal in the forum is earning some money instead of making a contribution, you will write such a kind of threads, looking for compensation for anything you contribute with. But the compensation is all the information you can get in here. It should be more than enough!!!