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Title: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Flashback on December 13, 2013, 01:49:26 PM
BlackMiner is a new ASIC Bitcoin Hardware manufacturer based in Bacau, Romania. They released the first series of BitCoin Mining Hardware that is available for Pre-Order.

http://s30.postimg.org/m9pl95gkx/Dark_Miner_Family.jpg

Batch 1 - February 2014
Hurry up and reserve your BlackMiner device from the first batch and the unit will be shipped to you in February 2014.

Power - 2.5W/Ghash
BlackMiner units consumes 2.5W/Ghash making it one of the most power efficient ASIC Bitcoin Miners released.

Stand-alone - Plug & Earn Bitcoins
Power up your new ASIC Bitcoin Miner, set the pool details via your browser and start earning Bitcoins instantly. Easy

Raspberry Pi - Fitted Inside
Each unit has a Raspberry Pi fitted inside which allows it to run as a stand-alone machine and display info on the front LED screen.

Stable Power Supply
Our ASIC Bitcoin Miners have a 750W stable power source which prevents eventual damages made by electricity fluctuations.

Together In 19" Racks
BlackMiner's case has standard dimensions that allows you to fit it in your own or co-located 19" rack.

A cool product needs to stay cool.
State of the art cooling system with low noise level.

More information about BlackMiner's new line of products: http://www.blackminer.com


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER REALEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Kluge on December 13, 2013, 01:52:06 PM
That's the laziest shit I've ever seen. You couldn't even cut some aluminum and plop some fans in there - you had to Photoshop the fan grills on? ::)


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER REALEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Flashback on December 13, 2013, 01:57:45 PM
That's the laziest shit I've ever seen. You couldn't even cut some aluminum and plop some fans in there - you had to Photoshop the fan grills on? ::)

Hi Kluge,

First of all let me thank you for your time reading our press release. These are the 3D renders of our cases. If you have a look at other mining hardware manufacturers, they do it in the same way.

We will post real images immediately after our cases come out from the factory.

Regards,
Andrei


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: callem on December 13, 2013, 02:58:28 PM
Before I send off all my bitcoins to Romania, what's the ASIC technology used? Microns? Process? Where's the fab?

There are many announcements (and justified skeptics) here... For every KNC miner there are dozens of Butterfly Labs - or worse - unfortunately.


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: greyhawk on December 13, 2013, 03:05:32 PM
What is this ASIC scam doing in "Press"?


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Flashback on December 13, 2013, 03:17:07 PM
Before I send off all my bitcoins to Romania, what's the ASIC technology used? Microns? Process? Where's the fab?

There are many announcements (and justified skeptics) here... For every KNC miner there are dozens of Butterfly Labs - or worse - unfortunately.

Hello,

On this series of products we are using AVALON 2 A3255-Q48 55nm ASIC Chips with overclocked speed of 1.5-1.6 GH/s at 1.0V (2.5W / GHs). This is Avalon's second generation of SHA256 processors.

BlackMiner Toddler uses 80 ASIC Chips, BlackMiner One uses 144 ASIC Chips and BlackMiner Monster uses 288 ASIC Chips.

Units are manufactured as follows:

- PCB (In-House): Bacau, Romania
- Cases (Contractor): Bucharest, Romania
- Raspberry Pi (Imported): London, United Kingdom
- ASIC Chips (Imported): Arrow Central Europe, Austria
- Power Supply and Accessories (Reseller): Bucharest, Romania
- Assembly (In-House): Bacau, Romania

Our full address and contact information can be found on our website.

Feel free to ask any other questions that you might have.

Regards,
Andrei


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Flashback on December 13, 2013, 03:23:10 PM
What is this ASIC scam doing in "Press"?

Hello,

We realise that there are lots of skeptic people due to previous scams around different places but please give us a chance and don't throw words without evidence.

Thanks,
Andrei


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: greyhawk on December 13, 2013, 03:27:34 PM
What is this ASIC scam doing in "Press"?

Hello,

We realise that there are lots of skeptic people due to previous scams around different places but please give us a chance and don't throw words without evidence.

Thanks,
Andrei

I like the vacation home you're using as a "base of operations".


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Flashback on December 13, 2013, 03:33:23 PM
What is this ASIC scam doing in "Press"?

Hello,

We realise that there are lots of skeptic people due to previous scams around different places but please give us a chance and don't throw words without evidence.

Thanks,
Andrei

I like the vacation home you're using as a "base of operations".

I guess you are very skeptical about us and there is nothing we can do. Everybody has the right to have their own opinion.

Thanks,
Andrei


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: cr1776 on December 13, 2013, 06:05:42 PM
The miners look quite over-priced or under-powered.  120 GH/s for $4290?  At the present difficulty, even if is only increasing at half the rate of the last few months, it doesn't look like it would ever break even even if you started mining on December 1st, 2013.  If you start February 1, 2014 it is terrible.

The more mining companies the better in my opinion, but you have to run the numbers to make sure that the pricing makes sense.  At ~$400 then it could make sense for a February delivery.


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Flashback on December 13, 2013, 08:04:20 PM
The miners look quite over-priced or under-powered.  120 GH/s for $4290?  At the present difficulty, even if is only increasing at half the rate of the last few months, it doesn't look like it would ever break even even if you started mining on December 1st, 2013.  If you start February 1, 2014 it is terrible.

The more mining companies the better in my opinion, but you have to run the numbers to make sure that the pricing makes sense.  At ~$400 then it could make sense for a February delivery.

We had a high demand on the first 50 units sold on eBay.

Our next generation will keep the same prices but they will have much more power. Right now we don't have an estimate regarding the release date of the next line.

Thanks,
Andrei


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: cr1776 on December 13, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
The miners look quite over-priced or under-powered.  120 GH/s for $4290?  At the present difficulty, even if is only increasing at half the rate of the last few months, it doesn't look like it would ever break even even if you started mining on December 1st, 2013.  If you start February 1, 2014 it is terrible.

The more mining companies the better in my opinion, but you have to run the numbers to make sure that the pricing makes sense.  At ~$400 then it could make sense for a February delivery.

We had a high demand on the first 50 units sold on eBay.

Our next generation will keep the same prices but they will have much more power. Right now we don't have an estimate regarding the release date of the next line.

Thanks,
Andrei

What is the item number on Ebay so we can look up the completed auction?

It looks like they are here:

http://www.ebay.com/usr/black_miner

Completed:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Miner-One-210-GH-S-Bitcoin-ASIC-Miner-Batch-1-/221333972097

Open:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Miner-One-210-GH-S-Bitcoin-ASIC-Miner-Batch-1-/221335689421?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3388a298cd


Even the 210 GH/s at $5899 with a Feb 3-Feb 5 delivery, does look to have any ROI unless difficulty levels off.

Andrei, we're not out to give you a hard time, just discuss the facts, and the more information the better!  :-)




Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Flashback on December 13, 2013, 10:33:46 PM
Andrei, we're not out to give you a hard time, just discuss the facts, and the more information the better!  :-)

That's not a problem. I am happy because people are interested even if some are skeptical. Also, any suggestions are welcome. We are really open to people's opinions because it helps us to make our company better every day.

I will post some pictures with the unit that the guy from eBay received. Also, I will create a video with our facility where we build the miners.

Thanks,
Andrei


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Flashback on December 13, 2013, 10:48:04 PM
(..) then let’s see the real pictures which should have been used in the auction in the first place. 

The first unit looked a little bit differently and that's why we are not using that picture. As mentioned in the previous post I will post some pictures with the unit and a video with our facility.

Thanks,
Andrei


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER REALEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on December 13, 2013, 11:00:48 PM
That's the laziest shit I've ever seen. You couldn't even cut some aluminum and plop some fans in there - you had to Photoshop the fan grills on? ::)

Hi Kluge,

First of all let me thank you for your time reading our press release. These are the 3D renders of our cases. If you have a look at other mining hardware manufacturers, they do it in the same way.

We will post real images immediately after our cases come out from the factory.

Regards,
Andrei

the first step in a community like this is always tough ;-)

you will have to get some good reputation. people are still fucked up because of butterfly labs...

good luck :-)


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: stompix on December 13, 2013, 11:48:42 PM
So can we pay a visit to your HQ and see actual proofs of your work?

Also can you name those suppliers:?
Cases (Contractor): Bucharest, Romania
Power Supply and Accessories (Reseller): Bucharest, Romania

Also why does your phone match this company:

http://www.vrajitorul.eu/en/firma/19246937/ovipas-srl
Now out of business and located In Suceava?

And this hotel:
Motel Monza
120 RON
Adresă: Strada Chimiei 12, Bacău 600286
Telefon:0744 157 749


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Flashback on December 14, 2013, 12:13:52 AM
So can we pay a visit to your HQ and see actual proofs of your work?

Also can you name those suppliers:?
Cases (Contractor): Bucharest, Romania
Power Supply and Accessories (Reseller): Bucharest, Romania

Also why does your phone match this company:

http://www.vrajitorul.eu/en/firma/19246937/ovipas-srl
Now out of business and located In Suceava?

And this hotel:
Motel Monza
120 RON
Adresă: Strada Chimiei 12, Bacău 600286
Telefon:0744 157 749


Stompix, I will answer your questions in order:

1. Yes, you can pay a visit anytime.
2. Cases: Norma
3. Power Supply and Accessories: PCGarage
4. Probably they had this phone number before I've had it. Have no connection with Ovipas.
5. Motel Monza is another business that I own but I think this is a personal matter.

Thanks,
Andrei


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: data_teks on December 14, 2013, 04:33:48 AM
If this is allowed in the "Press" section.  Guess I should make a thread too:

"2013-12-13  SANTA IS REAL"


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: stompix on December 14, 2013, 04:42:02 AM
If this is allowed in the "Press" section.  Guess I should make a thread too:

"2013-12-13  SANTA IS REAL"

I think is the first news article labeled as scam we had in a while :)


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Unacceptable on December 14, 2013, 07:22:39 AM
Wow,Avalon Gen2,really ???  Your a little late,like Bitmain with 180GH for over $4000.

Please folks,buy these up,I need as many overpriced & overpowered miners in your hands ASAP.

Cause that means when the lower power 28nm miners come out,you won't be able to get one cause you hadn't made a dent in your ROI  :D

I approve this message  ;)


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Xian01 on December 14, 2013, 07:39:14 AM
Wow,Avalon Gen2,really ???  Your a little late,like Bitmain with 180GH for over $4000.

 Can't find any reason to purchase these over another two Antminer units that are available in short order.


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: testerx on December 14, 2013, 08:40:03 AM
I don't get this...why would I pay more money than Technobit charges for a later delivery timeframe...???  I might as well just shove a whole bunch of technobit boards along with a router into a box then claim I have my own line of miners too then.  For 3000 euros I could buy the same hashrate delivered a month earlier than your $5899 system...why is a case an extra 2 grand...


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: cyren1981 on December 14, 2013, 08:55:36 AM
I'll just leave this here...

http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html (http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html)


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: RoadStress on December 14, 2013, 09:04:17 AM
BlackMiner is a new ASIC Bitcoin Hardware manufacturer based in Bacau, Romania. They released the first series of BitCoin Mining Hardware that is available for Pre-Order.



Why February if Avalon 2 chips are ready to ship now?

I thought this forum will boycott avalon. What's wrong with you. Why not take part in the boycott the greedy Chinese?


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: stompix on December 14, 2013, 09:12:13 AM
BlackMiner is a new ASIC Bitcoin Hardware manufacturer based in Bacau, Romania. They released the first series of BitCoin Mining Hardware that is available for Pre-Order.



Why February if Avalon 2 chips are ready to ship now?

I thought this forum will boycott avalon. What's wrong with you. Why not take part in the boycott the greedy Chinese?

They are boycotting avalon too. They don't really have the chips :).


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: goggles1200 on December 25, 2013, 04:29:17 AM
First off, those pictures aren't real, just like everyone is clean in the world of cycling. If you are buying bitcoin miners you should know what a 6 pin PCI-E connection looks like. It's not greyed out. The case isn't fake, screen is fake digital output. It's just a photoshop job that a 4th grader could do.

If that doesn't stop you from buying, how about 9k for 480gh/s. There are a lot better rigs you can get for 9k, I suggest looking at those sites.

Also, Blackminer != to Black Arrow. 2 different sites.

Safe shopping all.


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on January 01, 2014, 05:03:44 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262052.msg4249287#msg4249287


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Anddos on January 01, 2014, 08:28:32 AM
2.5W/Ghash Power Consumption
Black Miner One consumes a total of 1000 Watts making it one of the most power efficient ASIC Bitcoin Miners released.

I BELIEVE YOU


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: BlackElectronics on February 03, 2014, 10:33:43 AM
Hello,

We are sorry that we've started on the wrong foot here. I think the reason for people calling us a SCAM is that we've didn't post any real pictures, videos, etc.

First of all I would like to announce that Black Miner was acquired by Black Electronics and that's why we have a different username here. You can find our full details here: http://blackminer.com/contact/

First Black Miner models were shipped out to our clients and they are not available for purchase anymore as we are introducing a new model.

Here you can find some photos and a video with Black Miner Monster Ver. A, 210 GH/s: http://blackminer.com/black-miner-monster-ver-a-210ghs-video-and-photo-gallery/

Thank you.


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Flying Hellfish on February 03, 2014, 12:36:30 PM
I think the reason for people calling us a SCAM is that we've didn't post any real pictures, videos, etc.
Thank you.

And I think the reason people called you a SCAM is because you are a SCAM.


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: miter_myles on February 03, 2014, 12:44:11 PM
I think the reason for people calling us a SCAM is that we've didn't post any real pictures, videos, etc.
Thank you.

And I think the reason people called you a SCAM is because you are a SCAM.

This.  lol


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: arczi19 on February 03, 2014, 02:34:50 PM
Hello,

We are sorry that we've started on the wrong foot here. I think the reason for people calling us a SCAM is that we've didn't post any real pictures, videos, etc.

First of all I would like to announce that Black Miner was acquired by Black Electronics and that's why we have a different username here. You can find our full details here: http://blackminer.com/contact/

First Black Miner models were shipped out to our clients and they are not available for purchase anymore as we are introducing a new model.

Here you can find some photos and a video with Black Miner Monster Ver. A, 210 GH/s: http://blackminer.com/black-miner-monster-ver-a-210ghs-video-and-photo-gallery/

Thank you.

How many units of Black Miner Monster Ver. A have you sold? I'm asking because I havent seen a single user of Bitcointalk talking about your products and I'm interested in user's reviews.


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: BlackElectronics on February 03, 2014, 02:39:13 PM
I think the reason for people calling us a SCAM is that we've didn't post any real pictures, videos, etc.
Thank you.

And I think the reason people called you a SCAM is because you are a SCAM.

This is our last post on this topic.

We really don't understand this attitude. If you are calling us a SCAM please come with arguments. We are a transparent company, we are a legal entity based in Romania. People interested to visit us are welcome.

Thank you!


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: dogie on February 03, 2014, 03:28:39 PM
To be fair, they cloned an Avalon 1.5. Doesn't look that scam to me. Go over to the Mandarin forums and there are 15 companies like this.


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: eXme on February 03, 2014, 04:49:16 PM
To be fair, they cloned an Avalon 1.5. Doesn't look that scam to me. Go over to the Mandarin forums and there are 15 companies like this.

what the hell is mandarin forum? can i get free mandarins in that forum or with mandarins into face?  ???


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: dogie on February 03, 2014, 07:07:52 PM
To be fair, they cloned an Avalon 1.5. Doesn't look that scam to me. Go over to the Mandarin forums and there are 15 companies like this.

what the hell is mandarin forum? can i get free mandarins in that forum or with mandarins into face?  ???
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=30.0


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 03, 2014, 07:20:55 PM
How ironic!

http://www.nnmagic.com/nielsenprints/images/images_large/blackstonejr.jpg


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: Gator-hex on February 03, 2014, 08:47:48 PM
That one looks pretty real, sadly AntMiner is killed your market, you will never get the price you want for it.

http://blackminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Black-Miner-Monster-Front-2.jpg


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: precrime3 on March 14, 2014, 02:01:51 PM
Have this shipped yet? Earliest is February and its march....


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: raskul on March 14, 2014, 02:05:47 PM
seriously overpriced  :o


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: dogie on March 14, 2014, 03:03:07 PM
Have this shipped yet? Earliest is February and its march....
Don't bump old threads, especially before you read their content.


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: BlackElectronics on March 14, 2014, 07:45:47 PM
Have this shipped yet? Earliest is February and its march....

They were shipped long time ago. You can check our official thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=488646.20


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: nehan on August 28, 2014, 12:17:06 PM
What is this ASIC scam doing in "Press"?

Hello,

We realise that there are lots of skeptic people due to previous scams around different places but please give us a chance and don't throw words without evidence.

Thanks,
Andrei


Folks, Ive been duped by Andrei Raileanu and his team, who owe me a $1000 refund for inability to deliver the promised goods, pending for over 6 months now. Please do not do business with them.


Title: Re: 2013-12-12 BLACKMINER RELEASES HIS BITCOIN MINING FAMILY
Post by: dogie on August 28, 2014, 01:21:15 PM
What is this ASIC scam doing in "Press"?

Hello,

We realise that there are lots of skeptic people due to previous scams around different places but please give us a chance and don't throw words without evidence.

Thanks,
Andrei


Folks, Ive been duped by Andrei Raileanu and his team, who owe me a $1000 refund for inability to deliver the promised goods, pending for over 6 months now. Please do not do business with them.

No one was going to before you bumped a 6 month old thread....